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Cotchin believes Tigers have matured
By Matt Thompson
afl.com.au
Saturday, February 2, 2013
RICHMOND has spent plenty of time this off-season working to avoid another rollercoaster year.
It's an area that needed attention, where on the one hand the Tigers could match it with eventual grand finalists Sydney and Hawthorn only to be beaten by a lowly ranked team like Gold Coast.
New captain Trent Cotchin has told AFL.com.au the players think they're past it.
"It's probably a little bit of maturity in one sense, but also the situational stuff so just moments in games where we drop a simple mark that we'd normally take," Cotchin said.
"When they do arise in a game this season hopefully we know exactly what's required from each individual and you've got to play your role in that case."
The most famous incident of 2012 was code-switcher Karmichael Hunt's after-the-siren goal securing Gold Coast victory after a calamitous five minutes from the Tigers.
"We know what's required. Last year we had a lot of games where we just let ourselves down for a small amount of time," Cotchin said.
"We beat both the grand final contenders, so our best footy is up there with the rest of them, it's just making sure we bridge that gap between our worst footy."
Cotchin is relishing his increased responsibilities, and said he'll continue to work closely with former skipper Chris Newman.
"I don't think too much changes, obviously there's that little bit more added pressure game day, and then you've got to make decisions each and every day around the club," he said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-02/tigers-off-the-rollercoaster
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"New captain Trent Cotchin has told AFL.com.au the players think they're past it."
THINK?? They bloody better be!!
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First Rule of Tigers club......
Trench Cotchin MUST be on the field if the game is close with 2 minutes to go!
Second Rule of Tigers club......
Trench Cotchin MUST be on the field if the game is close with 2 minutes to go!
.....his name is "Trent Cotchin"
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"It's probably a little bit of maturity in one sense, but also the situational stuff so just moments in games where we drop a simple mark that we'd normally take," Cotchin said.
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i heard the coaches are currently addressing the fade out period in games.
Does this mean an admission of an inability to coach in the last 7 minutes of the final quarter?
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i heard the coaches are currently addressing the fade out period in games.
Does this mean an admission of an inability to coach in the last 7 minutes of the final quarter?
What garbage.. When it comes to the last minutes of close games its up to the players .. Cotchin is correct its maturity, most clubs on the rise over the years have a year where by they lose some close games due to lack of experience.
The time when Cotchin was off the ground in the last minutes showed 'his' lack of maturity. Next time he won't come off..
Hardwick is going ok and has great support. I think we have a gem of a coaching team
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i heard the coaches are currently addressing the fade out period in games.
Does this mean an admission of an inability to coach in the last 7 minutes of the final quarter?
What garbage.. When it comes to the last minutes of close games its up to the players ..
In a granny maybe. We've lost too many close ones for it to be all the players fault
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i heard the coaches are currently addressing the fade out period in games.
Does this mean an admission of an inability to coach in the last 7 minutes of the final quarter?
What garbage.. When it comes to the last minutes of close games its up to the players ..
In a granny maybe. We've lost too many close ones for it to be all the players fault
IMO i thought it was bad decision making by players.. i dont believe there is much coaching, albeit put extra players back, that can be done. Cotchin being off the ground wasnt a coaching move, it was a routine rotation and with hindsight im sure he wont proceed with the rotation next time..
GC was a stuff up, and we should never have been that close, late in the game. We missed shots all day. GC won it with exhuberance IMO.
Carlton we lost by making bad decisions at a vital time and then a fluke goal by Carlton.
Fremantle was just a very good game and could have gone either way. i thought they wanted it more. Especially the game in the rain
Nth Melb , i thought was a good game by both teams again could have gone either way
Geelong we had 1 good qtr and almost pinched it. We panicked in the last qtr and Bartel slaughtered us
And against Adelaide we played 1 good qtr. They were a better team for the other 3
So IMO although we could have won those games, there were reasons we lost not just as you say bad coaching..
Looking forward to hear what coaching differences you would have made.
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one thing i want to add though is i think we have more game structure and we are getting coached by far the best since Hafey..
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Cotchin being on/off the field should not have mattered when we are 2 goals up with 25 seconds left and we have possession. If Cotchin misses a game I might as well just stay home of that's the case.
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Cotchin being on/off the field should not have mattered when we are 2 goals up with 25 seconds left and we have possession. If Cotchin misses a game I might as well just stay home of that's the case.
very true, but it was mentioned by MrTiga, and iirc it was brought up by the journos at the time who made a point of asking why was Cotchin on the bench at that stahe of the game
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i heard the coaches are currently addressing the fade out period in games.
Does this mean an admission of an inability to coach in the last 7 minutes of the final quarter?
What garbage.. When it comes to the last minutes of close games its up to the players ..
In a granny maybe. We've lost too many close ones for it to be all the players fault
IMO i thought it was bad decision making by players.. i dont believe there is much coaching, albeit put extra players back, that can be done. Cotchin being off the ground wasnt a coaching move, it was a routine rotation and with hindsight im sure he wont proceed with the rotation next time..
GC was a stuff up, and we should never have been that close, late in the game. We missed shots all day. GC won it with exhuberance IMO.
Carlton we lost by making bad decisions at a vital time and then a fluke goal by Carlton.
Fremantle was just a very good game and could have gone either way. i thought they wanted it more. Especially the game in the rain
Nth Melb , i thought was a good game by both teams again could have gone either way
Geelong we had 1 good qtr and almost pinched it. We panicked in the last qtr and Bartel slaughtered us
And against Adelaide we played 1 good qtr. They were a better team for the other 3
So IMO although we could have won those games, there were reasons we lost not just as you say bad coaching..
Looking forward to hear what coaching differences you would have made.
I didn't say we lost those games due to bad coaching. Nice list of excuses though. A quality coach would have done something different in that North game. Not saying Dimma won't be a quality coach but he's proved nothing yet. Hasn't even had a season close to winning more games than not. Terry coached in prelims, Spud is the most successful coach we've had in 25 years and apparently they were worthless duds and Hardwick is a great coach. Dimma will leave our list in a better spot than those two did but I'm not concerned about our list. Dimma has done a good job with our list but I'll start talking him up once he's won at least two finals. What I want is great match day coaching. Start by changing up the forward line every once and a while because some of our games last year were a disgrace when it came to our forward half. 4th year this year, it'd be a good time to start playing finals
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VIDEO: Cotch being interviewed...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-02-02/consistency-the-key
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Tigers can end their 12-year finals drought: Cotchin
Jon Pierik
The Age
February 3, 2013
RICHMOND captain Trent Cotchin says it's time for the Tigers to take their game to the ''next level'' as they aim for their first finals series in a dozen years.
Not since 2001 when Danny Frawley was coach, Wayne Campbell was captain and Brendon Gale, now the club's chief executive officer, was the front-line ruckman, have the Tigers featured in September.
Since their last premiership in 1980, the Tigers have played in just eight finals, 17 fewer than any Victorian rival.
Champion Data points out that even Fitzroy, which closed its doors in 1996, played eight finals after 1980.
Now into their fourth season under coach Damien Hardwick, the Tigers know it's time to reward their faithful and provide president Gary March with the ideal send-off in what shapes as his final year.
''We know it's a reality - we haven't played finals for over 10 years,'' Cotchin, preparing for his first season in charge, said.
''We are absolutely giving it our all on the track at the moment. We are looking forward to getting into games to see where we are really at.''
The Tigers missed the top eight by more than three games last season but, along with Geelong, were the only clubs to beat both grand finalists, Hawthorn and Sydney.
That showed the talent is there but consistency remains an issue, exemplified by the stinging loss to the Gold Coast Suns in Cairns.
Outside of the Suns and Greater Western Sydney, the Tigers had the youngest team last season.
Cotchin hopes another strong pre-season will lift overall performance.
''You only have to look at some of our young guys and how they apply themselves on and off the field. We have really good character down at the club, which helps drive the culture we are trying to create,'' he said.
''That gives us really good faith in making sure that we do develop this year. Obviously, there were times in games where we did lack that maturity and experience but hopefully we can iron those out and make sure they are winning games rather than losing by a couple of points or so.''
Just one of the Tigers' 11 losses was by more than 22 points, highlighting their ability to remain in the contest but ultimately struggle when the pressure was at its fiercest.
Cotchin said the Tigers had worked over summer on what to do in tight situations.
''We learnt a lot about competing but we need to take it to the next level now and start winning those games we have been competitive in,'' he said.
''There were probably three or four games where we made pretty poor decisions at crucial times in games with a minute or two to go. That's going to come with maturity.
''Training those situations in games - we have done a lot of that over the pre-season so, hopefully, when they do confront us in games we know exactly what is required.''
Another area of examination has been the ball use near goal.
The Tigers managed a goal only 25 per cent of the time when inside 50 - ranked 12th - while their accuracy was also poor. This wasted the good work of their midfield, anchored by the silky Cotchin, who ensured that, on average, the game was played in their attacking half.
''We have spoken a lot about our composure going inside 50 and making sure we are kicking to our target areas and so forth,'' Cotchin said.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-can-end-their-12year-finals-drought-cotchin-20130202-2drhs.html#ixzz2JlXjYjMA
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Everyone was to blame for GC, coaches had to do something earlier about the Petrie match in final qtr, Carlton were too good, Carlton was player error, Crows game was inability of players and coach to slow that game down - how can you dominate for 1 qtr and give up that momentum completely?
I think the coaching could definitely improve but what we have is the golden rule of coaching - players playing for the coach.
You can work with that, even if the coach is limited - John Northey
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I think the coaching could definitely improve but what we have is the golden rule of coaching - players playing for the coach.
You can work with that, even if the coach is limited - John Northey
That has a limited shelf-life. An ability to create and impart unique (and successful) tactical planning is a must this year.
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I think the coaching could definitely improve but what we have is the golden rule of coaching - players playing for the coach.
You can work with that, even if the coach is limited - John Northey
That has a limited shelf-life. An ability to create and impart unique (and successful) tactical planning is a must this year.
Agree, you lose and you lose the players eventually. Lets face it, being evangelical only appeals to a select few
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Coach you have nailed it in one
Nothing has been proven yet. Dimma has the list in a nice shape but so what. Blues had a nice list in 2012, and look where they finished.
Talk is cheap. Proof will be in the pudding come 1st week of September
No finals= Failure
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i heard the coaches are currently addressing the fade out period in games.
Does this mean an admission of an inability to coach in the last 7 minutes of the final quarter?
What garbage.. When it comes to the last minutes of close games its up to the players ..
In a granny maybe. We've lost too many close ones for it to be all the players fault
IMO i thought it was bad decision making by players.. i dont believe there is much coaching, albeit put extra players back, that can be done. Cotchin being off the ground wasnt a coaching move, it was a routine rotation and with hindsight im sure he wont proceed with the rotation next time..
GC was a stuff up, and we should never have been that close, late in the game. We missed shots all day. GC won it with exhuberance IMO.
Carlton we lost by making bad decisions at a vital time and then a fluke goal by Carlton.
Fremantle was just a very good game and could have gone either way. i thought they wanted it more. Especially the game in the rain
Nth Melb , i thought was a good game by both teams again could have gone either way
Geelong we had 1 good qtr and almost pinched it. We panicked in the last qtr and Bartel slaughtered us
And against Adelaide we played 1 good qtr. They were a better team for the other 3
So IMO although we could have won those games, there were reasons we lost not just as you say bad coaching..
Looking forward to hear what coaching differences you would have made.
I didn't say we lost those games due to bad coaching. Nice list of excuses though. A quality coach would have done something different in that North game. Not saying Dimma won't be a quality coach but he's proved nothing yet. Hasn't even had a season close to winning more games than not. Terry coached in prelims, Spud is the most successful coach we've had in 25 years and apparently they were worthless duds and Hardwick is a great coach. Dimma will leave our list in a better spot than those two did but I'm not concerned about our list. Dimma has done a good job with our list but I'll start talking him up once he's won at least two finals. What I want is great match day coaching. Start by changing up the forward line every once and a while because some of our games last year were a disgrace when it came to our forward half. 4th year this year, it'd be a good time to start playing finals
Pretty fair assessment there coach, although I think Bengal gave a list of reasons rather than excuses.
It may yet pan out that we need a change of coach to take us to the next level, but so far Hardwick has done what he had to in terms of the list. From here on in though, it's results that count.
Actually that probably started last year.
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Simple really, the time is now, there simply can't be any excuses, anything less than finals is not acceptable, the roses are cut and on the table Tiges, time to smell them!!
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i heard the coaches are currently addressing the fade out period in games.
Does this mean an admission of an inability to coach in the last 7 minutes of the final quarter?
What garbage.. When it comes to the last minutes of close games its up to the players ..
In a granny maybe. We've lost too many close ones for it to be all the players fault
IMO i thought it was bad decision making by players.. i dont believe there is much coaching, albeit put extra players back, that can be done. Cotchin being off the ground wasnt a coaching move, it was a routine rotation and with hindsight im sure he wont proceed with the rotation next time..
GC was a stuff up, and we should never have been that close, late in the game. We missed shots all day. GC won it with exhuberance IMO.
Carlton we lost by making bad decisions at a vital time and then a fluke goal by Carlton.
Fremantle was just a very good game and could have gone either way. i thought they wanted it more. Especially the game in the rain
Nth Melb , i thought was a good game by both teams again could have gone either way
Geelong we had 1 good qtr and almost pinched it. We panicked in the last qtr and Bartel slaughtered us
And against Adelaide we played 1 good qtr. They were a better team for the other 3
So IMO although we could have won those games, there were reasons we lost not just as you say bad coaching..
Looking forward to hear what coaching differences you would have made.
I didn't say we lost those games due to bad coaching. Nice list of excuses though. A quality coach would have done something different in that North game. Not saying Dimma won't be a quality coach but he's proved nothing yet. Hasn't even had a season close to winning more games than not. Terry coached in prelims, Spud is the most successful coach we've had in 25 years and apparently they were worthless duds and Hardwick is a great coach. Dimma has done a good job with our list but I'll start talking him up once he's won at least two finals. What I want is great match day coaching. Start by changing up the forward line every once and a while because some of our games last year were a disgrace when it came to our forward half. 4th year this year, it'd be a good time to start playing finals
Bingo!! Wallace and Spud left the team far worse than they began, especially Spud. Spud had a finals team ffs, but his coaching was terrible AND he created an elitist culture that was detrimental to the development of young players. Wallace continued with the same culture, but did make the club take notice of off field issues, especially regarding recruiters and getting more spent on the football dept. Wallace was also left of field in gameday coaching and very innovative but he never had the players playing for him. Credit where credit is due to Wallace.
but fact is they left Richmond worse than when they started.
We have had virtually the youngest list in the comp and Hardwick has built from the ground up.. As a club we have improved the team each year, both on and off the field. Hardwick so far hasnt had the opportunity to really test his gameday coaching because as i see it he has been drumming in to the players a particular game style. Im not saying its all because of Hardwick, i think it has been a great team effort by all from the board to the boot studder and we WILL see the results pan out as we think they will.
We weren't far away last year, but its a tough competition and to have come from where we were in a period of compromised drafts, i think they've done really well.
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The team has come a long way from the worst since Fitzroy to a finals contender in just 3 years! All this with GC and GWS pinching all the best players!
Kudos to Hardwick. The addition of Choco Williams hopefully to the game day coaching box will assist Dimma!
:gotigers
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The team has come a long way from the worst since Fitzroy to a finals contender in just 3 years! All this with GC and GWS pinching all the best players!
Kudos to Hardwick. The addition of Choco Williams hopefully to the game day coaching box will assist Dimma!
:gotigers
Has it been stated that he would be a part of the game-day strategy team? I bloody hope he is :pray
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The team has come a long way from the worst since Fitzroy to a finals contender in just 3 years! All this with GC and GWS pinching all the best players!
Kudos to Hardwick.
And Campbell and Lade and Leppitsch and Jackson and Cameron and quite a few others with less public faces. It's not a one man show. :thumbsup
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The team has come a long way from the worst since Fitzroy to a finals contender in just 3 years! All this with GC and GWS pinching all the best players!
Kudos to Hardwick.
And Campbell and Lade and Leppitsch and Jackson and Cameron and quite a few others with less public faces. It's not a one man show. :thumbsup
I'd take out Cameron and include Hartley to those names.
.... Just saying.
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Helmut is Smokey's hero, Tigra. Let him be. The rest of us know ;)
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The team has come a long way from the worst since Fitzroy to a finals contender in just 3 years! All this with GC and GWS pinching all the best players!
Kudos to Hardwick.
And Campbell and Lade and Leppitsch and Jackson and Cameron and quite a few others with less public faces. It's not a one man show. :thumbsup
I'd take out Cameron and include Hartley to those names.
.... Just saying.
So just so I understand. The Gen Mgr of Football, that is the bloke who is in charge of the entire Footy Dept had absolutely no input into the hiring of any member of the dept he runs? Hartley, William etc?
If he didn't then who did ? And please don't say Benny Gale because that is incorrect as Benny himself will tell you ;D
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But I thought we werent allowed to say Cameron is responsible for anything. ;D Gary March & BennyG get credit for a lot of stuff they probably have little to do with, especially March ;D
Geez I am bored. Bring back football ASAP
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The team has come a long way from the worst since Fitzroy to a finals contender in just 3 years! All this with GC and GWS pinching all the best players!
Kudos to Hardwick.
And Campbell and Lade and Leppitsch and Jackson and Cameron and quite a few others with less public faces. It's not a one man show. :thumbsup
I'd take out Cameron and include Hartley to those names.
.... Just saying.
So just so I understand. The Gen Mgr of Football, that is the bloke who is in charge of the entire Footy Dept had absolutely no input into the hiring of any member of the dept he runs? Hartley, William etc?
If he didn't then who did ? And please don't say Benny Gale because that is incorrect as Benny himself will tell you ;D
Get with the program Billy.
When good football dept decisions are made, Cameron has nothing to do with it.
When poor football Dept decisions are made Cameron has done it all on his own.
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Footy can't come back around soon enough :banghead
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The team has come a long way from the worst since Fitzroy to a finals contender in just 3 years! All this with GC and GWS pinching all the best players!
Kudos to Hardwick.
And Campbell and Lade and Leppitsch and Jackson and Cameron and quite a few others with less public faces. It's not a one man show. :thumbsup
I'd take out Cameron and include Hartley to those names.
.... Just saying.
So just so I understand. The Gen Mgr of Football, that is the bloke who is in charge of the entire Footy Dept had absolutely no input into the hiring of any member of the dept he runs? Hartley, William etc?
If he didn't then who did ? And please don't say Benny Gale because that is incorrect as Benny himself will tell you ;D
Get with the program Billy.
When good football dept decisions are made, Cameron has nothing to do with it.
When poor football Dept decisions are made Cameron has done it all on his own.
I think it's quite the opposite. Most of us will acknowledge that Cameron has been involved in some decent appointments but certain people refuse to acknowledge how poorly Cameron did at Melbourne and how bad some of his recruits have been. But they're not his recruits because "Cameron never makes a decision by himself". ;)
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The test for the team's maturity is going to be if they can handle the pressure of expectation and back up all the talk on the park. It's something Richmond teams of recent decades have failed miserably at. No doubt the Richmond haters in the media will be turning up in round 1 waiting to bag us if we play poorly so they can scream same old Tigers and write-off our whole year :sleep. A sign of added maturity would be the team treating round 1 no differently to the other 21 and not getting sucked in to over-hyping of it by outside factors. I'd prefer us now to just shut up, keep our heads down training hard and just let our footy do the talking over the whole season.
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The team has come a long way from the worst since Fitzroy to a finals contender in just 3 years! All this with GC and GWS pinching all the best players!
Kudos to Hardwick.
And Campbell and Lade and Leppitsch and Jackson and Cameron and quite a few others with less public faces. It's not a one man show. :thumbsup
I'd take out Cameron and include Hartley to those names.
.... Just saying.
So just so I understand. The Gen Mgr of Football, that is the bloke who is in charge of the entire Footy Dept had absolutely no input into the hiring of any member of the dept he runs? Hartley, William etc?
If he didn't then who did ? And please don't say Benny Gale because that is incorrect as Benny himself will tell you ;D
Get with the program Billy.
When good football dept decisions are made, Cameron has nothing to do with it.
When poor football Dept decisions are made Cameron has done it all on his own.
I think it's quite the opposite. Most of us will acknowledge that Cameron has been involved in some decent appointments but certain people refuse to acknowledge how poorly Cameron did at Melbourne and how bad some of his recruits have been. But they're not his recruits because "Cameron never makes a decision by himself". ;)
What Cameron did or didn't do at Melbourne is not relevant to what's happening and what has happened at the RFC.
Not disputing Cameron's made some errors in his time at the RFC but to not give him credit for some of the positives that have happened in the last couple of seasons is foolish at best
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Can't give a guy any credit when he apparently doesn't make decisions without someone holding his hand. People need to make up their minds. Is he responsible for Hartley and whoever else is on the staff? Does that also mean he was not successful in getting Dean Bailey (:lol) and Neil Craig? Does that also mean he was a big part of recruiting Thomson, AMaric, Petterd, Miller etc? Or were those decisions the ones where "he was just one of many involved"? ;D
Personally I reckon he's poo at his job. The bloke signed up because Greg Miller thought he had something to offer. Then he had secret meetings with Pahoff :lol
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The team has come a long way from the worst since Fitzroy to a finals contender in just 3 years! All this with GC and GWS pinching all the best players!
Kudos to Hardwick.
And Campbell and Lade and Leppitsch and Jackson and Cameron and quite a few others with less public faces. It's not a one man show. :thumbsup
I'd take out Cameron and include Hartley to those names.
.... Just saying.
So just so I understand. The Gen Mgr of Football, that is the bloke who is in charge of the entire Footy Dept had absolutely no input into the hiring of any member of the dept he runs? Hartley, William etc?
If he didn't then who did ? And please don't say Benny Gale because that is incorrect as Benny himself will tell you ;D
Hardwick has connections at Port. Both Hartley and Williams were from Port and he obviously knew what they are capable of. It's obvious to me who had the greatest hand in wanting these blokes at the club, probably gave Cam their numbers from his iPhone.
..... Next question.
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Can't give a guy any credit when he apparently doesn't make decisions without someone holding his hand. People need to make up their minds. Is he responsible for Hartley and whoever else is on the staff? Does that also mean he was not successful in getting Dean Bailey (:lol) and Neil Craig? Does that also mean he was a big part of recruiting Thomson, AMaric, Petterd, Miller etc? Or were those decisions the ones where "he was just one of many involved"? ;D
Personally I reckon he's poo at his job. The bloke signed up because Greg Miller thought he had something to offer. Then he had secret meetings with Pahoff :lol
Neil Craig? Seeing Bailey only joined Melb last season I think it is fair to say CC had no involvement in that at all ;D As for Bailey, considering CC's job at Melb was very different to the one he holds at the RFC; he was in recruting and list management I think itv is reasonable to say he had involvement in that either.
As for recruiting, yeah as head of Football then he would have some involvement there. But seeing Opposition List Analysis is the primary focus of Blair Hartley, I reckon it's fair to say that Hartley would have had a fairsay in bringing Miller, Petterd & Mini Maric to the RFC ;D
Amazing isn't it how things work
Hardwick has connections at Port. Both Hartley and Williams were from Port and he obviously knew what they are capable of. It's obvious to me who had the greatest hand in wanting these blokes at the club, probably gave Cam their numbers from his iPhone.
..... Next question.
So it's all because of Dimma Williams & Hartley are at the RFC? What about Greg Mellor? Tim Clarke in development? Anyone else solely Dimma appointments or only the ones you don't like
:lol :lol Forrest, trees = doesn't suit your argument ;D ;D
But if its what you want to believe = your choice
Will say it again "Not disputing Cameron's made some errors in his time at the RFC but to not give him credit for some of the positives that have happened in the last couple of seasons is foolish at best" and can I add not realistic either
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Can't give a guy any credit when he apparently doesn't make decisions without someone holding his hand. People need to make up their minds. Is he responsible for Hartley and whoever else is on the staff? Does that also mean he was not successful in getting Dean Bailey (:lol) and Neil Craig? Does that also mean he was a big part of recruiting Thomson, AMaric, Petterd, Miller etc? Or were those decisions the ones where "he was just one of many involved"? ;D
Personally I reckon he's poo at his job. The bloke signed up because Greg Miller thought he had something to offer. Then he had secret meetings with Pahoff :lol
Neil Craig? Seeing Bailey only joined Melb last season I think it is fair to say CC had no involvement in that at all ;D As for Bailey, considering CC's job at Melb was very different to the one he holds at the RFC; he was in recruting and list management I think itv is reasonable to say he had involvement in that either.
As for recruiting, yeah as head of Football then he would have some involvement there. But seeing Opposition List Analysis is the primary focus of Blair Hartley, I reckon it's fair to say that Hartley would have had a fairsay in bringing Miller, Petterd & Mini Maric to the RFC ;D
Amazing isn't it how things work
Bailey didn't join Melbourne last year??? Bailey is at another club despite Richmond trying to get him here in a role. We tried that after we failed getting Neil Craig here. I have no idea what you're on about. Surely Craig Cameron had something to do with attempting to get these people to the club? If so, did he fail or was it one of those decisions that he only had a minor role in?
Considering 2 of those players were drafted at Melbourne under Cameron I don't think it's unrealistic to suggest he had a fair bit to do with their recruitment. How about trading Schulz to port for Mitch Farmer & Ben Nason? We had those two muppets at this club for two years while we were still paying Schulz to average 2+ goals a game at another club. Nah, he didn't have much to do with that one. He had nothing to do with recruiting Tom Hislop and Adam Thomson either. Let's not forget CC was brought here as list manager before getting promoted to head of footy. He would have a fair bit to do with this poo one would think.
Amazing isn't it how things work.
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Amazing, just amazing
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Amazing, just amazing
:lol
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Anybody know the extension period of Cameron's recently expired 5 year contract?
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Who is the appointed director?
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Where I can pull up that article where March talks about the importance of transparency?
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Where Gale talks about the importance of communicating with the "members"?
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Bailey didn't join Melbourne last year??? Bailey is at another club despite Richmond trying to get him here in a role. We tried that after we failed getting Neil Craig here. I have no idea what you're on about. Surely Craig Cameron had something to do with attempting to get these people to the club? If so, did he fail or was it one of those decisions that he only had a minor role in?
Sorry my mistake mis-read what you wrote that'll teach me :laugh: ;D
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Apology accepted :clapping