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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ruanaidh on February 17, 2013, 10:17:38 AM
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I quoted a couple of Health/Nutrition based Documentaries in a Football related thread recently but on reflection thought that they (and other related items) should have a home of their own....so here it is.
And here are the doco's in question:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cywtq
Relates to genetic fitness potential and limits
The second is based on the "Eat Stop Eat' program (which I follow): http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01lxyzc
It has reduced my cholesterol and sugar levels where everything else failed. Weight was never an issue for me but if you want to lose some it will do that to. I lost 10% (9kg's)whilst gorging myself on the non-fasting days (5 per week).
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High cholesterol is a made up disease, which causes undue stress and grief, while filling the coffers of big pharma, at all of our expense.
considering the dietary advice given in relation to this is simply wrong, it is no surprise that yourself, like many others, could not lower your cholesterol levels without taking drugs. It is also no coincidence that lowering your cholesterol levels also coincided with getting your blood sugar levels under control.
Pfizer, the manufacturer or the original and most prescribed statin, (which is called *Lipitor), is actually getting out of the cholesterol drug game and concentrating on drugs for diabetes, a real disease, which will be a huge cash cow as no one will bother to prevent this preventable, yet ever increasing disease.
*if i typed this name just after the word statin in this sentence i would get a forbidden on this server error :huh
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High cholesterol is a made up disease, which causes undue stress and grief, while filling the coffers of big pharma, at all of our expense.
considering the dietary advice given in relation to this is simply wrong, it is no surprise that yourself, like many others, could not lower your cholesterol levels without taking drugs. It is also no coincidence that lowering your cholesterol levels also coincided with getting your blood sugar levels under control.
Pfizer, the manufacturer or the original and most prescribed statin, (which is called *Lipitor), is actually getting out of the cholesterol drug game and concentrating on drugs for diabetes, a real disease, which will be a huge cash cow as no one will bother to prevent this preventable, yet ever increasing disease.
*if i typed this name just after the word statin in this sentence i would get a forbidden on this server error :huh
Agree with all of the above. BTW the subject in the 'Eat Stop Eat' related doco' started his journey because he was worried about the pre-diabetic state he was in danger of entering. In my case I was advised to consider Statins by my GP. Instead I began intermittent fasting and adopted a light cardio exercise regime that incorporates morning and evening workouts. After a short period of time I have achieved the results I am happy with : Ch - 6 SL: 5
A side effect of the fasting has also seen me drift away from carbs such as breads and pasta's. Don't ask me why.
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High cholesterol is a made up disease, which causes undue stress and grief, while filling the coffers of big pharma, at all of our expense.
considering the dietary advice given in relation to this is simply wrong, it is no surprise that yourself, like many others, could not lower your cholesterol levels without taking drugs. It is also no coincidence that lowering your cholesterol levels also coincided with getting your blood sugar levels under control.
Pfizer, the manufacturer or the original and most prescribed statin, (which is called *Lipitor), is actually getting out of the cholesterol drug game and concentrating on drugs for diabetes, a real disease, which will be a huge cash cow as no one will bother to prevent this preventable, yet ever increasing disease.
*if i typed this name just after the word statin in this sentence i would get a forbidden on this server error :huh
Hows it made up? :huh
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Al why is cholesterol a made up disease?...when was this announced?
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it was never announced, and it probably never will be. if there ever is an official move away from the notion that high cholesterol causes heart disease it will be a gradual thing rather than any admission they were wrong.
High cholesterol does have a moderate association with heart attacks, but it doesn't cause it. in some cases it may be an indicator of an underlying problem but it doesn't cause it.
The key here is understanding the difference between causal and a simple association. The funny thing is the medical community, or a large percentage of it, disregard this when the discussion is about high cholesterol and heart disease, yet are quick to jump on it when the discussion turns to low cholesterol and cancer.
happy to go into further details, but it gets technical, requires a claw lenght post (and some) and Im stuffed from footy and half peeed, so thats for later, if people wish.
In the meantime, a challenge, one i have put forward many, many times, and has never been met.
Can anyone provide real evidence that high cholesterol actually causes heart disease.
I bet no one can!
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it was never announced, and it probably never will be. if there ever is an official move away from the notion that high cholesterol causes heart disease it will be a gradual thing rather than any admission they were wrong.
High cholesterol does have a moderate association with heart attacks, but it doesn't cause it. in some cases it may be an indicator of an underlying problem but it doesn't cause it.
The key here is understanding the difference between causal and a simple association. The funny thing is the medical community, or a large percentage of it, disregard this when the discussion is about high cholesterol and heart disease, yet are quick to jump on it when the discussion turns to low cholesterol and cancer.
happy to go into further details, but it gets technical, requires a claw lenght post (and some) and Im stuffed from footy and half peeed, so thats for later, if people wish.
In the meantime, a challenge, one i have put forward many, many times, and has never been met.
Can anyone provide real evidence that high cholesterol actually causes heart disease.
I bet no one can!
can anyone prove it doesnt?
Lets be serious it cant be good for the ticker can it.
I lowered mine from 7.5 to 6 without exercising one bit. In fact i did more when my cholestral was high
All i did was stop smoking.
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it was never announced, and it probably never will be. if there ever is an official move away from the notion that high cholesterol causes heart disease it will be a gradual thing rather than any admission they were wrong.
High cholesterol does have a moderate association with heart attacks, but it doesn't cause it. in some cases it may be an indicator of an underlying problem but it doesn't cause it.
The key here is understanding the difference between causal and a simple association. The funny thing is the medical community, or a large percentage of it, disregard this when the discussion is about high cholesterol and heart disease, yet are quick to jump on it when the discussion turns to low cholesterol and cancer.
happy to go into further details, but it gets technical, requires a claw lenght post (and some) and Im stuffed from footy and half peeed, so thats for later, if people wish.
In the meantime, a challenge, one i have put forward many, many times, and has never been met.
Can anyone provide real evidence that high cholesterol actually causes heart disease.
I bet no one can!
I'd like to hear it when you get the chance :)
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can anyone prove it doesnt?
I can put forward a pretty good argument that it doesnt, but as i said it is long winded and technical. happy to do so when i have the time. I used to have a website that explained it all, but it was hacked and destroyed.
Lets be serious it cant be good for the ticker can it.
care to explain why not?
All i did was stop smoking.
thats all you did? you did one of the most beneficial things you can do for your health. Considering the repair role that cholesterol plays in your body, it is only to be expected that your cholesterol will drop once you stop poisoning it.
Its like saying that once i stopped cutting myself i stopped getting scars
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can anyone prove it doesnt?
I can put forward a pretty good argument that it doesnt, but as i said it is long winded and technical. happy to do so when i have the time. I used to have a website that explained it all, but it was hacked and destroyed.
Lets be serious it cant be good for the ticker can it.
care to explain why not?
All i did was stop smoking.
thats all you did? you did one of the most beneficial things you can do for your health. Considering the repair role that cholesterol plays in your body, it is only to be expected that your cholesterol will drop once you stop poisoning it.
Its like saying that once i stopped cutting myself i stopped getting scars
The repairing cholesterol is high density whereas the build up from smoking is low, so your explanation is a bit off..
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Anyone taking supplements? The only 2 I have at the moment is a multi-vitamin and a once a day Krill Oil capsule ( for the astaxanthin therein).
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Anyone taking supplements? The only 2 I have at the moment is a multi-vitamin and a once a day Krill Oil capsule ( for the astaxanthin therein).
Yeh a bottle of red every Friday night
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can anyone prove it doesnt?
I can put forward a pretty good argument that it doesnt, but as i said it is long winded and technical. happy to do so when i have the time. I used to have a website that explained it all, but it was hacked and destroyed.
Lets be serious it cant be good for the ticker can it.
care to explain why not?
All i did was stop smoking.
thats all you did? you did one of the most beneficial things you can do for your health. Considering the repair role that cholesterol plays in your body, it is only to be expected that your cholesterol will drop once you stop poisoning it.
Its like saying that once i stopped cutting myself i stopped getting scars
The repairing cholesterol is high density whereas the build up from smoking is low, so your explanation is a bit off..
actually there is only one type of cholesterol, and that is cholesterol.
High density and low density actually refers to Lipoproteins. HDL is a high densty lipoprotein, etc. There are also Intermediate Lipoproteins and Very Low Density Lipoproteins. You see, this is where the smoke and mirrors starts, HDL and LDL are not actually cholesterol, they are the things that transport cholesterol (and fat)around your body.
In a nutshell they start of as Very Low Density lipoproteins and they transport Cholesterol and fat around the body and deliver them where they are needed. this is done only be means of specific receptors. Fat or cholesterol cannot be dumped from lipoproteins willy nilly, and if they were, they would not even stick to the endothelium, the "non stick" inner lining of our arteries.
a VLDL will have mainly tryglycerides (fatty acids or fat in simple terms) and cholesterol. the fatty acids will be delivered to cells that require energy, or stored as fat in the body.
as it loses these fatty acids it becomes an Intermediate density lipoprotein.
at this stage it can actually be reabsorbed by the liver and i believe this to be crucial, but noone seems to know what determines whether it is reabsorbed, or whether it continues on its delivery run.
as it continues to loose the tryglycerides (and the "key" that would have allowed it to be reabsorbed by the liver) it now becomes an LDL, , containing mainly cholesterol and some fat. It's purpose is to deliver cholesterol and fat soluble vitamins to cells that require it.
A HDL is a different cat. it circulates around exchanging "keys" that lock into receptors with the VLDs/IDLs/LDLs , as well as scavenging used cholesterol from cell walls and returning it to the liver to be reprocessed.
Now for cholesterol to end up in our arteries, we first need something to damage the endothelium, the body then starts a repair process. This is when so called arterial plaque is formed.These arterial plaques are basically scar tissue. Of the eight stages of this plaque formation, cholesterol and fat appear at stage 6 (now that hardly be the cause of the problem, can it?).
One thing known to damage the endothelium is nicotine. So when Daniel stopped smoking, he reduced the amount of damage done to his arteries, amongst other things. He therefore reduced his body's need for cholesterol, so his LDL dropped accordingly. (this would be due to reduced damage to cells all through the body, not just in the arteries.)
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Al, you seem like a pro on the topic so I'm wondering if you could try and put something into really daft terms for me.
I'm a pescetarian and while not entirely strict, try to limit the consumption of animals products where not necessary. One of them for example is a margarine called Nuttelex. I've been doing some reading on hydrogenated oils and how they're not really that good for you, and then whatever I read starts going into things like poly and monosaturated fats, LDL, crap like that. All I can understand is that the reasoning behind adding hydrogenated oils is that because the non-animal fats and oils used in things like spreads are usually liquid at room temperature so they add hydrogen so they solidify. It's kind of disturbing that this makes the product one molecule away from being plastic and takes an alarmingly long time to break down. I know anyone can argue that O2 oxygen is one molecule away from O3 ozone, but we're talking about something that's natural to some sort of chemical poo storm we're sticking in our bodies.
I've found another marge called Omegablend that doesn't contain hydrogenated oils or palm oils (another reason I want to get away from Nuttelex... I'm all for ethical eating when I can ;D) but it's expensive and only available from health sort of supermarkets. But if you can clear it up a bit I may not need to switch.
Still, all this processing and manufactured crap that they're feeding everyone can't be all good in the long run. A lot of my mates are gluten free, and raw vegans, and while it's too much for me, it's definitely interesting to learn about the horrible junk going into everything processed. Nothing like cooking up some good grub from scratch. Me and the missus regularly make our own pestos and pasta sauces (often 100% from stuff we grow out the back), burger patties, falafels, salsas, etc etc, and it's amazing how good you feel getting more natural ingredients into you.
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dwaino, it is my belief that vegetables are eaten by what i eat ;D
personally, though, i will not eat margarine or any any proceesed oil if i can help it. i try to stick to animal fats or cold processed vegetable oils
hydrogenation of oils is as you say, basically to get them to behave like saturated fats which are solid at room temperature. I believe that partially hydronated, or trans fats are worse. your body will use these just like saturated fats, but the problem is that cells manufactured with them become insulin resistant. whether this is the same for fully hydrogenated or not i am unsure.
basically the less processed what you eat the better off you are.
have you looked into coconut oil?
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What is going on here?? The way this thread is heading there is a good chance I will drop dead tomorrow!!
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dwaino, it is my belief that vegetables are eaten by what i eat ;D
personally, though, i will not eat margarine or any any proceesed oil if i can help it. i try to stick to animal fats or cold processed vegetable oils
hydrogenation of oils is as you say, basically to get them to behave like saturated fats which are solid at room temperature. I believe that partially hydronated, or trans fats are worse. your body will use these just like saturated fats, but the problem is that cells manufactured with them become insulin resistant. whether this is the same for fully hydrogenated or not i am unsure.
basically the less processed what you eat the better off you are.
have you looked into coconut oil?
Cheers al. Definitely an advocate of trying to stay away from processed food when I can.
We're kind of foodies, so we use a few different oils. The missus is Sicilian so extra virgin olive oil (usually pricey imported brands) gets the biggest work out here, but I like to use peanut or sesame oils if I'm making a stir fry for example. I guess it comes down to what we're making. But pretty much all mono and poly unsaturated fats. Coconut oil is high in saturated fat isn't it? I guess this is where I've been getting confused. I do remember reading somewhere that saturated fats like that in butter can/is/something good for your heart in moderation. But it's the trans or hydrogenated ones that are the real bad guys.
It's something really interesting and I'd love to actually understand at some point. Unfortunately it can be a pretty subjective topic and I've even had doctors and dietitians contradict each other. My main staples are fruit, veggies, fish and some other sea foods, eggs, milk and cheese, then try to do the right thing and throw in things like nuts, an avocado here and there etc, even back on a pea isolate since I've been back into training (I don't eat red meat or chicken or anything, so needed to increase the protein intake for recovery), but I'm always getting told a better way of doing it.
What is going on here?? The way this thread is heading there is a good chance I will drop dead tomorrow!!
:lol I am 12 and what is this.
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Eat well, Exercise regularly....Die anyway.
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You're born, poo happens and you die.
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You're born, poo happens and you die.
Unlike nearly everyone I know I have no fear of death........ as I don't believe in it ;) IMO, maximising the potential of our body brings back to a shorter time-frame the period where you suffer degenerative diseases at the end of your years. That is my motivation. Fit/healthy people usually die of spontaneous heart attacks, often in their sleep according to this TED Talk:
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_buettner_how_to_live_to_be_100.html
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Automatic kudos for posting TED. :cheers
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yeah, Dwaino Coconut oils is high in saturated fats, but for some reason it has the reputation of having healthy saturated fats.
All saturated fats are healthy and play a variety roles in our bodies, its just that those who gained financially in switching people from expensive fats to cheap processed oils have done a really good job in bastardising nutritional guidance.
A couple of years ago some boffin found that fibre in the diet can be fermented in the colon (if you have the right bacteria) and end up with short chain fatty acids, which are very important for your immune system.
Well, all short chain fatty acids are in fact saturated fats, so thats an arse about way of providing your body with the fuel your immune system needs, but very few would actually say just eat saturated fat because it is good for your immune system.
this is a good article on fats;
http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/skinny-on-fats#fatty
Mary Enig knows her fats. she has been warning of the dangers of trans fats for a long time and was at the forefront of the push to mandate that trans fat content be put on labels in the US.
she has a swag of articles here;
http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats
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Thanks al :cheers bookmarked for when walking dead is over
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Automatic kudos for posting TED. :cheers
Why thank you dwaino :)
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can anyone prove it doesnt?
I can put forward a pretty good argument that it doesnt, but as i said it is long winded and technical. happy to do so when i have the time. I used to have a website that explained it all, but it was hacked and destroyed.
Lets be serious it cant be good for the ticker can it.
care to explain why not?
All i did was stop smoking.
thats all you did? you did one of the most beneficial things you can do for your health. Considering the repair role that cholesterol plays in your body, it is only to be expected that your cholesterol will drop once you stop poisoning it.
Its like saying that once i stopped cutting myself i stopped getting scars
The repairing cholesterol is high density whereas the build up from smoking is low, so your explanation is a bit off..
actually there is only one type of cholesterol, and that is cholesterol.
High density and low density actually refers to Lipoproteins. HDL is a high densty lipoprotein, etc. There are also Intermediate Lipoproteins and Very Low Density Lipoproteins. You see, this is where the smoke and mirrors starts, HDL and LDL are not actually cholesterol, they are the things that transport cholesterol (and fat)around your body.
In a nutshell they start of as Very Low Density lipoproteins and they transport Cholesterol and fat around the body and deliver them where they are needed. this is done only be means of specific receptors. Fat or cholesterol cannot be dumped from lipoproteins willy nilly, and if they were, they would not even stick to the endothelium, the "non stick" inner lining of our arteries.
a VLDL will have mainly tryglycerides (fatty acids or fat in simple terms) and cholesterol. the fatty acids will be delivered to cells that require energy, or stored as fat in the body.
as it loses these fatty acids it becomes an Intermediate density lipoprotein.
at this stage it can actually be reabsorbed by the liver and i believe this to be crucial, but noone seems to know what determines whether it is reabsorbed, or whether it continues on its delivery run.
as it continues to loose the tryglycerides (and the "key" that would have allowed it to be reabsorbed by the liver) it now becomes an LDL, , containing mainly cholesterol and some fat. It's purpose is to deliver cholesterol and fat soluble vitamins to cells that require it.
A HDL is a different cat. it circulates around exchanging "keys" that lock into receptors with the VLDs/IDLs/LDLs , as well as scavenging used cholesterol from cell walls and returning it to the liver to be reprocessed.
Now for cholesterol to end up in our arteries, we first need something to damage the endothelium, the body then starts a repair process. This is when so called arterial plaque is formed.These arterial plaques are basically scar tissue. Of the eight stages of this plaque formation, cholesterol and fat appear at stage 6 (now that hardly be the cause of the problem, can it?).
One thing known to damage the endothelium is nicotine. So when Daniel stopped smoking, he reduced the amount of damage done to his arteries, amongst other things. He therefore reduced his body's need for cholesterol, so his LDL dropped accordingly. (this would be due to reduced damage to cells all through the body, not just in the arteries.)
I was always taught HDL turned cholesterol into high density and same with low if you get what I mean? But then again I've never taken much interest into nutrition as I find theres to many "experts" contradicting each other.
Thanks for your explanation though.
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yeah, Dwaino Coconut oils is high in saturated fats, but for some reason it has the reputation of having healthy saturated fats.
I found this...
"Plus, some argue that coconut oil and palm fruit oil, which are plant-based sources of saturated fats, may actually be beneficial because their particular fatty-acid make-up means they are metabolized differently in the body."
Not really an explanation but might help a little?
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Thanks. I might do a little reading on it then to see if I can find anything, and then find if it will better suit any particular recipes. I stay away from palm oil though if I can really help it, whether the manufacturer claims RSPO or not.
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Is coconut oil digested?, I thought it was a lubricant.
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What about cottonseed oil? the local chippie uses it and the food tastes crap but if its better for you then maybe they are on the right track.
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Is coconut oil digested?, I thought it was a lubricant.
one of the easiest digested oils as you dont need bile. Excellent choice of oil for people who have had their gall bladder removed.
It also has claims as an anti viral/anti bacterial agent. There was talk of it being used to help cure golden staff. I have had success with fixing mastitis in a dog feeding her coconut oil and raw milk.
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I have had success with fixing mastitis in a dog feeding her coconut oil and raw milk.
MacGyver vet!
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I would love to end up looking like Tommy Hafey at 80.I know he doesnt drink alcohol and is a big tea drinker.Does anyone here know more about his lifestyle.I have looked everywhere for books or essays about this but alas nada.
Forgot to add ..he trains like 10 men,but I guess we all knew that part
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I would love to end up looking like Tommy Hafey at 80.I know he doesnt drink alcohol and is a big tea drinker.Does anyone here know more about his lifestyle.I have looked everywhere for books or essays about this but alas nada.
Forgot to add ..he trains like 10 men,but I guess we all knew that part
Tom, you’ve never touched alcohol or cigarettes and gave up cakes and biscuits 40 years ago, so you obviously have a pretty phenomenal diet. What does your diet consist of and is there anything you let yourself indulge in.
Tom: Well, ice cream is not lollies biscuits or cakes. I make new resolutions and you need to make new resolutions you know you can keep, because I’m trying to show my little girls when they’re coming through the years to set your mind to do something and nothing should sway you. So I said ‘I won’t eat lollies biscuits or cakes for 12 months’, that was 38 years ago and I haven’t eaten a lolly, biscuit or cake since. But ice cream’s not lollies biscuits or cakes. Is that right?
Steve: Haha, exactly.
Tom: So Steve, I have a lot of dessert, but the meals I eat are pretty basic and simple. I have cereal for breakfast with fruit and yoghurt and a cup of tea. At lunch I often just have a salad sandwich, or if we’re out I’ll just have what they have there. Then for dinner, we have red meat once a week; fish probably twice a week, pasta and pretty basic things like that and I eat a heap of fruit. When I go for a drive, and I go for a lot of big drives when I speak to schools, I might take a dozen pieces of fruit. I’ll eat them on the way up and on the way back. It keeps me awake for a start, but it’s also good healthy food, isn’t it.
http://www.calibrefitness.com.au/interview/featured-interview-tom-hafey
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Thanks a million 1965..read the whole interview,he's truly a great man
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That's virtually identical to my diet but I do indulge once a week and have less fruit (too much fructose) . I also incorporate nuts and berries.
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I just eat
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I just eat
So did this bloke:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cJwRdzm-Vk
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Those burgers are ridiculous! Look I avoid blatantly stupid stuff like that, but I wouldn't call that a diet
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Those burgers are ridiculous! Look I avoid blatantly stupid stuff like that, but I wouldn't call that a diet
Your'e right....that is what I'd call: Extreme Eating :o
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anyone that can eat one of those big burgers probably has a medical problem. A healthy human body should not overeat protein and fat.
In terms of Satiety, that is how quick and for how long a food makes you feel full/content after eating, the order is protein, fat and then carbs.
It is why that many studies have shown that a low carb diet (therefore higher in protein and fats) is the most effective diet to lose weight.
In the most recent one that I know of those on the low fat diet had a specifically controlled calorie content, while those on the low carb diet were given a list of food but could eat as much as they wanted, yet they lost the most weight.
It's why the atkins diet is effictive, in the short term.
One of the problems with diets like that is that if you eliminate one food type, the body will often end up craving that food and find it hard to maintain. what you need is a balanced lifestyle change
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anyone that can eat one of those big burgers probably has a medical problem. A healthy human body should not overeat protein and fat.
In terms of Satiety, that is how quick and for how long a food makes you feel full/content after eating, the order is protein, fat and then carbs.
It is why that many studies have shown that a low carb diet (therefore higher in protein and fats) is the most effective diet to lose weight.
In the most recent one that I know of those on the low fat diet had a specifically controlled calorie content, while those on the low carb diet were given a list of food but could eat as much as they wanted, yet they lost the most weight.
It's why the atkins diet is effictive, in the short term.
One of the problems with diets like that is that if you eliminate one food type, the body will often end up craving that food and find it hard to maintain. what you need is a balanced lifestyle change
Al, you seem well-versed in this topic. Do you have related qualifications and/or a lifelong interest? I'd also be keen to find out what your eating routine/philosophy is.
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It's just a subject i became really interested in 6-7 years ago. I did a lot of research and never took claims at face value. I always looked for reputable information to back up what people would say. Google scholar is your friend here.
I'm not so militant now, but still try to eat as natural as possible. I avoid processed foods and wont touch margarine or processed vegetable oils. Pre packaged food is pretty much out of bounds as is anything with addatives and i try to avoid anything with soy in it. (except soy sauce the "natural" MSG ;D) I do a lot of label reading.
I limit carbs and avoid sugary drinks, but I have found recently that sometimes after a game of footy I would feel really drained and occasionally light headed, but a can of soft drink would do the trick. Obviously my blood sugars were low
Soft drinks are probably, singularly the worst thing you can consume on a regular basis and I believe sugar in general to be one of the major causes behind the deteriorating health of our society, and I am not afraid of saturated fat.
I do have vices and occasionally splurge on things that you wouldn't want to eat all the time. I do enjoy eating.
The only supplements I take are fermented cod liver oil and pro biotics, as gut health is the cornerstone to overall health.
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It's just a subject i became really interested in 6-7 years ago. I did a lot of research and never took claims at face value. I always looked for reputable information to back up what people would say. Google scholar is your friend here.
I'm not so militant now, but still try to eat as natural as possible. I avoid processed foods and wont touch margarine or processed vegetable oils. Pre packaged food is pretty much out of bounds as is anything with addatives and i try to avoid anything with soy in it. (except soy sauce the "natural" MSG ;D) I do a lot of label reading.
I limit carbs and avoid sugary drinks, but I have found recently that sometimes after a game of footy I would feel really drained and occasionally light headed, but a can of soft drink would do the trick. Obviously my blood sugars were low
Soft drinks are probably, singularly the worst thing you can consume on a regular basis and I believe sugar in general to be one of the major causes behind the deteriorating health of our society, and I am not afraid of saturated fat.
I do have vices and occasionally splurge on things that you wouldn't want to eat all the time. I do enjoy eating.
The only supplements I take are fermented cod liver oil and pro biotics, as gut health is the cornerstone to overall health.
Eat anything high G.I within 30 minutes after physical activity. It can be the difference between recovering all your energy in 12 hours or 72 hours.
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It's just a subject i became really interested in 6-7 years ago. I did a lot of research and never took claims at face value. I always looked for reputable information to back up what people would say. Google scholar is your friend here.
I'm not so militant now, but still try to eat as natural as possible. I avoid processed foods and wont touch margarine or processed vegetable oils. Pre packaged food is pretty much out of bounds as is anything with addatives and i try to avoid anything with soy in it. (except soy sauce the "natural" MSG ;D) I do a lot of label reading.
I limit carbs and avoid sugary drinks, but I have found recently that sometimes after a game of footy I would feel really drained and occasionally light headed, but a can of soft drink would do the trick. Obviously my blood sugars were low
Soft drinks are probably, singularly the worst thing you can consume on a regular basis and I believe sugar in general to be one of the major causes behind the deteriorating health of our society, and I am not afraid of saturated fat.
I do have vices and occasionally splurge on things that you wouldn't want to eat all the time. I do enjoy eating.
The only supplements I take are fermented cod liver oil and pro biotics, as gut health is the cornerstone to overall health.
Thanks for the info :thumbsup
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her's an example of how the BS is left entwined with the truth, and how despite the evidence, some things can just not be let go.
Despite some still living in the dark ages when eggs were vilified for their high cholesterol most in the know now accept that the amount of cholesterol you eat has very little bearing on so called cholesterol levels, as the the body just produces most of the cholesterol it requires anyway.
Lifting the Taboo on Eggs
Meta-analysis shows little association between egg consumption and coronary heart disease or stroke.
To lower blood cholesterol and cardiovascular disease risk, the American Heart Association (AHA) recommends consuming <300 mg of cholesterol daily (Circulation 2006; 114:82). Because chicken eggs are high in cholesterol (about 200 mg each), clinicians commonly advise patients with elevated blood cholesterol to avoid eating them. However, the association between egg consumption and cardiovascular disease is unclear. In a meta-analysis of 17 prospective cohort studies in which egg consumption was measured with food-frequency questionnaires, investigators assessed this association.
The analysis included nine reports on coronary heart disease (CHD) and eight reports on stroke, with 10 to 20 years of follow-up in most studies. No associations between egg consumption and risk for CHD or stroke were observed. However, subgroup analyses of diabetic patients in which highest and lowest egg consumption were compared showed excess risk for CHD (relative risk, 1.5) and less risk for hemorrhagic stroke (RR, 0.8).
Comment: In this study, egg consumption was not associated with coronary heart disease or stroke except for excess CHD risk in diabetic patients, suggesting that most patients don't need to avoid eggs. The findings are consistent with metabolic research showing that, in most people, dietary saturated and trans fatty acids influence serum LDL cholesterol more than dietary cholesterol does. As the authors note, chicken eggs are inexpensive and rich in protein and other nutrients; moreover, the cholesterol in eggs is easily avoided by not consuming the yolks.
Rong Y et al. Egg consumption and risk of coronary heart disease and stroke: Dose-response meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies. BMJ 2013 Jan 7; 346:e8539
So for a start, the AHA, which gets most of its funding from large food proceerors and big pharma is still promoting outdated views, ie only consume 300mg of cholesterol per day.
This is despite "The findings are consistent with metabolic research showing that, in most people, dietary saturated and trans fatty acids influence serum LDL cholesterol more than dietary cholesterol does."
and here is a common flaw. They talk about trans fat and saturated fat as if they are the same, but they are not the same, in terms of how they behave in the body. cells that are made with trans fats become insulin resistant, which will lead to higher insulin levels in the blood, which will damage artery walls which will lead to the body needing more cholesterol as it attempts to repair itself.
Even if you dont know this, or don't accept it, when studies combine two variables as one it is a flaw, because you cant be sure that it is not only one thing responsible for what is blamed on two. so the above statement has an element of truth but also pushes a barrow full of kaka.
They basically tell us that eggs are full of nutrition and because they dont raise cholesterol levels they are safe to eat, except perhaps for some diabetics.
But they finish by saying that eggs are OK to eat because it is easy not to eat the yolks? where the hell did they drag that from? the yolk is the most nutritious part and no where did they mention that in the studies they analysed yolks were not consumed.
they just dont want to let go.
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Good to see mainstream TV start to openly challenge the cholesterol/saturated fat myth. Gee, they could have lifted some of this stuff from my own webpage.
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/heartofthematter/default.htm
although the pressure from sponsors will still prevent commercial TV from showing anything like this for quite a while yet.
You just have to love the dogmatic stupidity of the bloke from the heart foundation. admits there is no evidence to back up their dietary advice, but still stands by it and will continue to preach it.
The australian heart foundation does not make where it gets its money from public, but the US version gets most of their donations from those that benefit from their advice - pharmaceutical and food processing companies
How much money has big pharma made from selling the poor, trusting but ignorant, joe public, unnecessary and dangerous drugs based on this falicy?
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It's actually amazing how many things twist the results to make it sound better. Hello Powerade :shh (in some cases)