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Title: changes for next week?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 06, 2013, 12:57:39 AM
McGaune and Jackson [unfortunately?] look safe again.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 06, 2013, 01:04:22 AM
OUTS: Grigg (to see him standing there on the boundary in the last qtr doing NOTHING while Jack is fighting tooth and nail to keep the ball in the pocket was pathetic)

INS: Vlaustin (just give the kid a game)

And BTW if Maric is as sore as he looked out there tonight in the first 2 and bit qtrs then give him a rest as well and bring inthe Big O
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: dwaino on April 06, 2013, 01:06:02 AM
Vlastuin for Ellis.

Wasn't impressed with a few blokes like Houli, but I'm not a fan of wholesale changes, and optimistic about blokes playing into form.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 06, 2013, 01:11:42 AM
Ellis hit.a.couple.packs.hard
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 06, 2013, 01:14:39 AM
ellis is safe
 maric looks out of sorts his not right so rest him
jackson out
grigg out

in vlas knights  big o
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Yeahright on April 06, 2013, 03:30:04 AM
Ellis and Jackson should be safe, Grigg out or at least told to pull his head in. Would consider giving Griff another go maybe for Rance if his hammys are still sore or depending how Grimes pulls up.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Chuck17 on April 06, 2013, 08:54:34 AM
OUTS: Grigg (to see him standing there on the boundary in the last qtr doing NOTHING while Jack is fighting tooth and nail to keep the ball in the pocket was pathetic)

INS: Vlaustin (just give the kid a game)


Agree, the thing about Grigg is he always does this hanging out on the fringes for an easy kick, while he is a serviceable player IMO he can be upgraded on and when we can do so means we are a stronger side.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: bojangles17 on April 06, 2013, 09:15:33 AM
No change :shh
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Penelope on April 06, 2013, 09:21:13 AM
McGaune and Jackson [unfortunately?] look safe again.

as much as most of us want to see these blokes replaced in the long term, there is nothing unfortunate about anyone doing enough to hold their place in the team, (as opposed to keeping their place through default)
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Stripes on April 06, 2013, 10:19:48 AM
No change for mine. Everyone did there role. Would have liked to see more run provided from Ellis in the last but his attack on the ball was undeniable. Maric was beaten for most of the night but stood up when it counted.

Only make changes if necessary imo
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 06, 2013, 10:33:09 AM
Thought we needed a tall down back. Griff back in just to provide better balance.
Bring in Vlastuin for ???
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Gigantor on April 06, 2013, 10:42:17 AM
Is Maric injured again?...I know he runs with a  shuffle but he seems to have lost that bit of leap he had ,and seems a tad slower getting to the contest,although i have to admit the Saints ruck is very good.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Ruanaidh on April 06, 2013, 10:46:28 AM
We need Griff to play on Cordy....Batch out....just a match-up issue  Vlaustin in for Grigg or Newman or Jacko....although any of them would be considered a little stiff. As someone said we need to keep transitioning. Flossy was just about BOG in the practice match we had against the doggies 3 weeks ago.





Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: WA Tiger on April 06, 2013, 11:21:26 AM
McGaune and Jackson [unfortunately?] look safe again.

Why "unfortunately"????? Do you know them personally and you just don't like them??? If they play well as they have done why drop drop them?? Silly comment, sorry but it makes no sense!
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 06, 2013, 11:42:59 AM
mguane is ok he fights and competes

jacko needs to go but wont because he and dimma are in love behind the the blue oyster club doors
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Smokey on April 06, 2013, 11:50:52 AM
Vlastuin for Ellis.

Wasn't impressed with a few blokes like Houli, but I'm not a fan of wholesale changes, and optimistic about blokes playing into form.

Not for Ellis, he showed a lot more when he came on last night and needs a full game now to redeem himself and rebuild some confidence.  Batchelor on the other hand...............

That would be my only change against the Dogs as they aren't overly tall and Batchelor is proving himself to be quite timid and useless when the ball goes to ground.  Losing faith in him weekly and I really hope he starts to turn it around soon because I want him to succeed.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: dwaino on April 06, 2013, 11:54:19 AM
Vlastuin for Ellis.

Wasn't impressed with a few blokes like Houli, but I'm not a fan of wholesale changes, and optimistic about blokes playing into form.

Not for Ellis, he showed a lot more when he came on last night and needs a full game now to redeem himself and rebuild some confidence.  Batchelor on the other hand...............

Yeah I know but I'm just thinking that sub twice and may need a full match in the twos in case it affects his match fitness. Also just an excuse to chuck in Flossy ;D Batchelor just needs a kick in the bum to stop giving his opponent a paddock before chasing the lead. His other aspects are fine IMO.

Trying to keep the structures in mind I'm not sure who else at this stage. Grigg was woeful but doubt he'll get dropped after one really sub par game, ditto with some others. I noticed Maric copped a bath in the ruck but didn't take enough notice that he might be injured. So maybe Stephenson?

IMO the Bulldogs forward line isn't much chop and we could go in unchanged. 
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Smokey on April 06, 2013, 11:57:24 AM

Batchelor just needs a kick in the bum to stop giving his opponent a paddock before chasing the lead. His other aspects are fine IMO.

Not so sure Dwaino.  I'm getting more worried about him as each week passes.  Lacks mongrel if you ask me and that allows him to get beaten often, and I don't think his disposal is very reliable either.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Gigantor on April 06, 2013, 12:00:49 PM
i reckon he has a concentration problem..when hes on song he reads the play really well.Last night ,especially in the first half his opponent was leading him a merry dance.However in fairness to batch he did tighten up in the second half
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: dwaino on April 06, 2013, 12:01:29 PM

Batchelor just needs a kick in the bum to stop giving his opponent a paddock before chasing the lead. His other aspects are fine IMO.

Not so sure Dwaino.  I'm getting more worried about him as each week passes.  Lacks mongrel if you ask me and that allows him to get beaten often, and I don't think his disposal is very reliable either.

Hard to say anything good about him after last night but he's great when playing as the drop off bloke, reads the play well and gets in for the intercepts. He has been one of my favourite blokes since he debuted so I admit any bias, but I'm really hoping last night was a case where his match up was completely off and lack of experience being accountable for a man. 
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: TigerLand on April 06, 2013, 12:08:00 PM
Is the 'throw up' around stoppages effecting Maric at all?

Maybe its a tank issue?
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 06, 2013, 12:10:31 PM
Is the 'throw up' around stoppages effecting Maric at all?

Maybe its a tank issue?

nope
he had an interrupted pres season had surgery
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: torch on April 06, 2013, 12:22:15 PM
OUT:

Batchelor
Edwards
Grigg

IN:

Griffiths
Nahas
Vlastuin
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: WA Tiger on April 06, 2013, 12:25:16 PM
OUT:

Batchelor
Edwards
Grigg

IN:

Griffiths
Nahas
Vlastuin

WTF.... :huh...Edwards was great....Batch is hard at it and Grigg had one ordinary game.....are you trolling??

Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: tony_montana on April 06, 2013, 12:32:29 PM
Thought Batch was asked to play a role that was beyond him. Playing as a KPD against Maisten, he just couldnt compete in the air(is 1.88cm), the dissapointing thing for me wasnt so much that he was beaten in the air but that he was borderline non competitive 3 or 4 times on the lead. At his best when playing against someone more his own size where he can zone off and help out 3rd man up. Also needs to trim down a touch, has bulked up considerably and looks slower(was never a feature of his to begin with)
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: pmac21 on April 06, 2013, 01:13:17 PM
Those wanting Grigg out have short memories.  Craig Bradley never hit a pack either.
He is as safe as houses and we need him in the side to work between the arcs.
Agree with Maric, needs a rest.  Big O in.
 
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Danog on April 06, 2013, 01:26:00 PM
Out: Grigg and Maric
In: Vlastuin and Orren

Vlastuin sub, Ellis playing Grigg's role
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 06, 2013, 01:52:19 PM
Torch - Nahas for Edwards is mind boggling.

McGaune and Jackson [unfortunately?] look safe again.

Why "unfortunately"????? Do you know them personally and you just don't like them??? If they play well as they have done why drop drop them?? Silly comment, sorry but it makes no sense!

I am merely asking the question.  I find the Richmond list and selection interesting.

Would Griffiths and Helbig / Vlastuin or another combination give greater output?

We need Griff to play on Cordy....Batch out....just a match-up issue  Vlaustin in for Grigg or Newman or Jacko....although any of them would be considered a little stiff. As someone said we need to keep transitioning. Flossy was just about BOG in the practice match we had against the doggies 3 weeks ago.

I would like to see Batch not dropped.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: WA Tiger on April 06, 2013, 02:19:25 PM
Torch - Nahas for Edwards is mind boggling.

McGaune and Jackson [unfortunately?] look safe again.

Why "unfortunately"????? Do you know them personally and you just don't like them??? If they play well as they have done why drop drop them?? Silly comment, sorry but it makes no sense!

I am merely asking the question.  I find the Richmond list and selection interesting.

Would Griffiths and Helbig / Vlastuin or another combination give greater output?

We need Griff to play on Cordy....Batch out....just a match-up issue  Vlaustin in for Grigg or Newman or Jacko....although any of them would be considered a little stiff. As someone said we need to keep transitioning. Flossy was just about BOG in the practice match we had against the doggies 3 weeks ago.

I would like to see Batch not dropped.

Would love to see Val in......but for who??
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Gigantor on April 06, 2013, 02:36:46 PM
no change for mine.....maybe oren on the bench as insurance for Ivan who to me looks proppy
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Penelope on April 06, 2013, 02:37:51 PM
I noticed Maric copped a bath in the ruck but didn't take enough notice that he might be injured. So maybe Stephenson?



vickery seemed to play a fair bit more in the ruck last night. I wonder if maric is carrying something.

if so i hope they just rest him and get it right, particularly if it is affecting his output so early in the season.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: dwaino on April 06, 2013, 05:11:44 PM
I think the Dogs played well to their strengths (or min/maxing to D&D nerds) and did well to score 78 against Freo. We should still beat then but unless we take it up a gear I reckon we're in for another long ground out win.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 06, 2013, 05:50:11 PM
I noticed Maric copped a bath in the ruck but didn't take enough notice that he might be injured. So maybe Stephenson?



vickery seemed to play a fair bit more in the ruck last night. I wonder if maric is carrying something.

if so i hope they just rest him and get it right, particularly if it is affecting his output so early in the season.

Maric had groin issues during the pre-season was in the re-hab group at stages

Seeing he couldn't really jump last night, struggled to really stretch out at times running around the ground and that enabled McEvoy to plug the hole in defence really easily last night I thought perhaps he was playing sore
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: big tone on April 06, 2013, 10:01:05 PM
Outs- Batch, Grigg, Ellis
Ins- Dea, Vlastuin, Edwards/Knights/O'Hanlon (whichever plays better at Coburg)

Wouldn't mind our forwardline with a lead up flanker, giving an option on the wing starting from half forward.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: eliminator on April 07, 2013, 09:02:08 AM
I don't think they will make any changes. McGuane is doing enough to keep his spot. If any change  I would bring in Vlastuin for Jackson
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Smokey on April 07, 2013, 10:05:42 AM
1 change - Vlastuin for Batchelor.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 07, 2013, 11:47:45 AM
I repeat.  We need a tall for Ayce Cordy.

In:  Griffiths
Out : Batchelor
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Gigantor on April 07, 2013, 11:50:37 AM
Lets see how griff goes today in the magoos...Batch can play tall,although his first half performance friday was ordinary
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 07, 2013, 11:53:01 AM
Lets see how griff goes today in the magoos...Batch can play tall,although his first half performance friday was ordinary
I dont think he can play 200+ cm tall!
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: tony_montana on April 07, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
or maybe chaps will have to man up and play on one of the big boys  :shh

I agree with smokey, batch out, Vlas in. Also think Newman needs to lift, ex captain needs to be doing more
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Rodgerramjet on April 07, 2013, 12:37:59 PM


Out

Batchelor
Grigg

Ins

Helbig
Knights
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Ruanaidh on April 07, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
Lets see how griff goes today in the magoos...Batch can play tall,although his first half performance friday was ordinary
I dont think he can play 200+ cm tall!
Griff to Cordy/Minson, Petterd to Murphy, Rance to Jones, Grimes and Houli to mediums and Chaplin in reserve.....in fact we could stretch the backline of the dogs by going tall at times with one of the nominal tall backs to go forward.

Late edit: How could I forget Morris :o...He goes onto Dalhaus.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 07, 2013, 01:19:57 PM
Out- Ellis even though I thought he had an impact when he came on and won a crucial ball in the centre. Just to keep match fit at Coburg.

In- Vlaustin
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 07, 2013, 01:39:31 PM
When Vlastuin plays he should get a full game.

Not this sub rubbish.
Title: The Barometer - Round 3 (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 08, 2013, 04:22:32 PM
The Barometer: Who's hurt and who's in line for selection at your club for AFL Round 3

    Staff writers
    From: Herald Sun
    April 08, 2013 3:32PM



RICHMOND

INJURIES
Nathan Foley (Achilles) 4-6 weeks
David Astbury (foot) 1-2 weeks

ON THE BLOCK: Brandon Ellis could be in trouble after being subbed off in Round 1 and starting in the subs vest on Friday night, although he had an impact when he came on late. Hard to find another player who deserves to be dropped on form but team balance might be an issue – do the Tigers need so many tall and medium defenders against the Bulldogs?

ON THE CUSP: Former Crow Chris Knights put a battering ram through Damien Hardwick’s proverbial selection door when he picked up 41 disposals in Coburg’s big win against Sandringham yesterday. Knights, who was picked up as a free agent at the end of last season, also registered eight clearances, eight inside-50s and a goal and could be the mid-sized forward the Tigers need. Others to impress in the VFL included Aaron Edwards (four goals and 17 disposals), Brad Helbig (26 touches) and Robin Nahas (22 and six tackles). Nick Vlastuin (16 disposals) might have to wait another week.

AL PATON’S FORECAST: The last time Richmond won the first three matches of a season was in 1995, when the Tigers went on to win the first eight and make a preliminary final. We don’t want to get ahead of ourselves but momentum is building at Punt Rd and depth is no longer a problem. They should have the Dogs covered, then comes a serious test with matches against Collingwood, Fremantle (in Perth) and Geelong.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/the-barometer-whos-hurt-and-whos-in-line-for-selection-at-your-club-for-afl-round-2/story-e6frf9jf-1226610940898
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 08, 2013, 07:19:44 PM
Chris "the weapon" Knights is ready to be unleashed.
Question is should it be this week or the big match vs the pies?

All I know is that he's a well guarded secret.  :shh
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: pmac21 on April 08, 2013, 07:23:14 PM
Knights has to come in for either Ellis or Batchelor
Love to see Jackson squeezed out but probably need him for Griffen or Cooney!!
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: eliminator on April 09, 2013, 06:32:08 AM
Great to see Helbig in best. Would love to have him back in side but probably needs more time at Coburg. Given form of Knights believe he should come in at the expense of Jackson. Although Batchelor didn't have his best game against Saints would retain him.
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Yeahright on April 09, 2013, 11:39:49 PM
OUT:

Batchelor
Edwards
Grigg

IN:

Griffiths
Nahas
Vlastuin

WTF.... :huh...Edwards was great....Batch is hard at it and Grigg had one ordinary game.....are you trolling??

Round 1 Grigg was ordinary at best, Round 2 he was pathetic
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Yeahright on April 09, 2013, 11:40:51 PM
Those wanting Grigg out have short memories.  Craig Bradley never hit a pack either.


Yeah but he could actually hit a target
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Yeahright on April 09, 2013, 11:42:50 PM
I repeat.  We need a tall for Ayce Cordy.

In:  Griffiths
Out : Batchelor

We've got 3 talls, can't go in with 4
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 10, 2013, 12:06:02 AM
 Sydney has won 2-0 this season with four and played in last years winning grand final with four.

1. Grundy 192
2. Richards 192
3. Johnson 193 / Everitt 194
3. LRT 194

*Note Everitt played in last week win while Johnson played in the premiership game.

The make up of our defensive not just for the next game but over the course of the next couple years will be interesting. Our forward line also has youngsters with talent, flexibility and height. A unusual and uplifting position for our club list to be in if I may say so. 
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Yeahright on April 10, 2013, 12:42:25 AM
LRT played forward dude
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: one-eyed on April 10, 2013, 02:15:31 AM
RICHMOND - In the Mix

No injuries and strong showings in the VFL mean the Tigers could be forced to again make some tough calls at the selection table. David Astbury is moving closer to returning from a foot injury while Chris Knights continued to push hard for a senior call-up with 41 disposals against Sandringham while Orren Stephenson with 35 hit-outs. Aaron Edwards kicked four goals, omitted forward Robin Nahas had 22 touches and laid six tackles, first-year prospect Nick Vlastuin had 16 and six, and Brad Helbig racked up 26 disposals, as did Matt White.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-09/in-the-mix-round-three
Title: Re: changes for next week?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 10, 2013, 09:13:24 AM
LRT played forward dude

Oh yeah  :)

Maybe mcgaune has hope