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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 05, 2013, 12:22:54 AM
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Changes for next week?
Fire away ....
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Nahas must get a game vs Poort. Always tears them up
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Out: Vickery, Maric, Jackson
In: Big O, Edwards, Nahas
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Wy drop maric ::)
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Must try A Edwards at some stage.
16 marks for Coburg and looked strong.
:thumbsup
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Wy drop maric ::)
Thought he was injured????
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Wy drop maric ::)
Thought he was injured????
Injured of not he is playing rubbish football along with many of his peers
Had enough of him needs a break
A Edwards must play
Out : Newman, Hackson, Grigg , Maric
In: mcbean, edwards, Big O
Don't need to bring in a 4th player because Grigg is that poo we effectively play a man down with him anyhow
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What we are likely to see:
INS: A Edwards, Stephenson, Foley or Tuck
OUTS: Maric, Vickery, Petterd (all injured)
What I'd like to see!
INS: A Edwards, Stephenson, Foley, Tuck, Arnot, Batchelor
OUTS: Maric, Vickery, Petterd (all injured), Grigg (won't run, won't chase, won't go for hard ball), Newman (too slow and in last qtr got the Griggs see previous out for details), Jackson (butcher the ball no more)
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I would play McBean next week. Dont see any long term value in bringing in an Aaron Edwards myself. Foley should come in for his pace. Stephenson will play if Maric or Vickery dont front up from injury. Theres a multitude who can go out.
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I would play McBean next week. Dont see any long term value in bringing in an Aaron Edwards myself. Foley should come in for his pace. Stephenson will play if Maric or Vickery dont front up from injury. Theres a multitude who can go out.
Understand your point Ramps, but while the season is alive we will bring blokes who can impact now.
And to be fair to Edwards he has earnt a chance ahead of McBean; he's been more consistent
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I would play McBean next week. Dont see any long term value in bringing in an Aaron Edwards myself. Foley should come in for his pace. Stephenson will play if Maric or Vickery dont front up from injury. Theres a multitude who can go out.
Understand your point Ramps, but while the season is alive we will bring blokes who can impact now.
And to be fair to Edwards he has earnt a chance ahead of McBean; he's been more consistent
Edwards seems to be a mark and kick player and maybe he will impact and maybe help us to beat Port but McBean whilst still needing development seems to have some X factor to his game. I see the next 2 games as an opportunity to blood a couple of kids and see how they go.
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Petterd, Jackson, white, Vickery, Maric
Big O, Tuck, Batchelor, Griffiths(fwd), Nahas.
Foley 1 more week at coburg then a soft return against Melbourne, no risks
I know A.Edwards deserves a run but need to bring on guys like Griff, Elton now and give them a chance. This ridiculous over reliance on a player like Vickery being so crucial to our structure is a joke. No team should be so reliant on a bit part player, we need to develop more options and more structures, we're a bit of a one trick pony atm
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gotta bring in mcbean and elton
gotta get rance out
jackson out
white out
grigg out
houli out
and if dimma keeps talking poo he can go to
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Out
Jackson
Vickery inj
White
Maric inj
Mcgaune
Pettard
Houli
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2 of the first 5 geelo g goals direct Chaplin mistales
Anyone have a quote of fineys comments?
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gotta bring in mcbean and elton
gotta get rance out
jackson out
white out
grigg out
houli out
and if dimma keeps talking poo he can go to
Wonder what Rawlings is doing now
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gotta bring in mcbean and elton
gotta get rance out
jackson out
white out
grigg out
houli out
and if dimma keeps talking poo he can go to
Wonder what Rawlings is doing now
Honestly and you say move on from Wallace FFS, do you want us to go backwards more so.. :o
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we are going backwards
dimma cannot take us fwd from here
he cannot offer any more than what he has
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wtf have rawlings and wallet got to doi with the tigers now
stuffing nothing
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dimma is our coach and he has hit a dead end, he cannot take us further
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wtf have rawlings and wallet got to doi with the tigers now
stuffing nothing
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dimma is our coach and he has hit a dead end, he cannot take us further
I don't believe that, sorry, Dimma can do it.....can the payers??????? That's what you should be asking!!!!
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dimma cant do it
he keeps rewarding mediocrity just as u do
dimma is a weak bitch
to scared to play kids to save his arse and keeps poo like rance white jackson grigg in the team
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dimma cant do it
he keeps rewarding mediocrity just as u do
dimma is a weak bitch
to scared to play kids to save his arse and keeps poo like rance white jackson grigg in the team
:huh Um example please...go read the "Mentally Weak" thread!!
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dimma cant do it
he keeps rewarding mediocrity just as u do
dimma is a weak bitch
to scared to play kids to save his arse and keeps poo like rance white jackson grigg in the team
Wallace. Mk2.
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In Tuck, Stephenson, Nahas, Astbury and A Edwards.
Out: Newman(suspended), Maric(injured),Vickery(injured) White and Petterd.
Foley still a week away at least. Mc Bean is a gun but I would not rush him in. Griffiths played well and must be close as well. I would loive to say Jackson out but don't believe it will happen
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Arnot has to be close as well for selection
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If Vickery is out is it a possibility that Griff may come in as a forward and play the position we all seem he is more suited?
Would love to see him have a few weeks up forward to prove to everyone whether or not he's any good, a forward, a back and worth persisting with.
Geelong can pick up Harry Taylor and he ends up a great defender who can switch up forward and kick some goals. Lucky Bastards are Geelong.
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Out: mcgaune Vickery maric
In: mcbean/Elton. Griffiths. Orren.If Vickery is out is it a possibility that Griff may come in as a forward and play the position we all seem he is more suited?
Would love to see him have a few weeks up forward to prove to everyone whether or not he's any good, a forward, a back and worth persisting with.
Geelong can pick up Harry Taylor and he ends up a great defender who can switch up forward and kick some goals. Lucky Bastards are Geelong.
Jackson. White. Pettard. Houli.
For helbig. Bachelor. Arnot. De@.
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Out: mcgaune Vickery maric
In: mcbean/Elton. Griffiths. Orren.If Vickery is out is it a possibility that Griff may come in as a forward and play the position we all seem he is more suited?
Would love to see him have a few weeks up forward to prove to everyone whether or not he's any good, a forward, a back and worth persisting with.
Geelong can pick up Harry Taylor and he ends up a great defender who can switch up forward and kick some goals. Lucky Bastards are Geelong.
Jackson. White. Pettard. Houli.
For helbig. Bachelor. Arnot. De@.
Not a mcguane fan but your dreamimg if you think he is going to be dropped
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Orren ruck
Griffiths FF
Elton or mcbean 3rd fwd. Mcgaune rubbish
Jack can't be dropped
Chaplin in my bad books too. Would look at astbury or mcintosh
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which chapel?..greg ian or trevor? :shh
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Out
Mcgaune
LoL@Mcguane
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Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.
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There could be 3 forced changes this week ....
It's too early to tell yet, though, if Hardwick can expect to have Maric, Vickery and Ricky Petterd at his disposal to take on the Power with.
"We're probably not too sure at this stage but obviously Ivan will be pretty sore and Ty from a concussion point of view I'm not exactly sure," Hardwick said.
"Ricky came off late towards the end as well but we just had to put him up forward so we could have players rotating through the middle of the ground. I would say that those three will be questionable at this stage."
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2013/05/05/tigers-need-to-learn-stuff/
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Well with big Sarg and Westhoff we will need to be taller down back..Griff might get a gig....not sure why but he might.
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Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.
Agree 100% on Grigg, Houli has played a few nice games this year however we can't play him and Newman in the same team if we want to be treated seriously. Both slow and good depth players at. best
Re Grigg: il call it right now he is in the bottom 5 players on our list. No right foot, No speed, no defensive aspect to his game. Why waste our time with him. You wonder why he never has an opponent. It's because no one cares for his input on match day.
He copped a hammering where I was sitting and deservedly so. He is paid good money to stand on the wing and cheat his way to 20 plus possessions every week.
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Well with big Sarg and Westhoff we will need to be taller down back..Griff might get a gig....not sure why but he might.
he ll defintely get a gig as second string ruck option :shh
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Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.
Agree 100% on Grigg, Houli has played a few nice games this year however we can't play him and Newman in the same team if we want to be treated seriously. Both slow and good depth players at. best
Re Grigg: il call it right now he is in the bottom 5 players on our list. No right foot, No speed, no defensive aspect to his game. Why waste our time with him. You wonder why he never has an opponent. It's because no one cares for his input on match day.
He copped a hammering where I was sitting and deservedly so. He is paid good money to stand on the wing and cheat his way to 20 plus possessions every week.
Don't sugar coat it Daniel, tell us what you really think. :lol
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Out: Jackson, Houli, Newman
In: Foley, Griffiths, Tuck
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Player K HB D M G B T HO I50 FF FA DT SC
Shane Edwards 11 19 30 1 0 0 2 0 2 1 0 83 90
Shaun Grigg 14 11 25 6 1 0 4 0 4 0 2 98 79
Chris Knights 15 9 24 9 1 2 1 0 1 0 0 102 104
Daniel Jackson 14 9 23 2 0 1 1 3 3 1 0 75 71
Dustin Martin 16 6 22 7 2 0 3 0 3 1 0 106 125
Brett Deledio 10 10 20 3 0 0 1 0 4 0 0 63 46
Jake King 14 6 20 7 4 1 1 0 3 2 1 103 105
Nick Vlastuin 8 12 20 4 0 0 5 0 3 1 1 78 72
Chris Newman 14 5 19 5 0 0 2 0 2 0 1 72 72
Brandon Ellis 10 8 18 8 1 1 2 0 3 0 0 85 82
Bachar Houli 7 10 17 4 0 1 9 0 2 1 2 85 82
Trent Cotchin 9 8 17 4 0 0 3 0 4 1 2 62 76
Ricky Petterd 10 6 16 5 0 0 2 0 2 1 3 57 80
Troy Chaplin 8 5 13 3 0 0 2 0 0 1 1 49 64
Ivan Maric 5 7 12 4 0 0 2 20 2 0 1 66 75 [injury]
Jack Riewoldt 8 3 11 6 3 0 1 1 2 1 1 69 81
Alex Rance 5 5 10 4 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 42 58
Luke McGuane 5 4 9 3 1 0 3 4 2 0 2 48 38
Dylan Grimes 6 2 8 4 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 50 54
Steven Morris 4 4 8 3 0 0 2 0 1 1 0 38 46
Matthew White 4 1 5 2 0 1 2 0 1 0 0 29 16
Tyrone Vickery 2 3 5 1 0 0 0 7 2 0 0 22 30 [injury]
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Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.
Grigg and Houli are not the problem as just.
As players on the list to make the side stronger there is not problem with having them. Ditto Jackson.
Its when thery get games after they have been poor, and hampering the development of the like of Dea, Bachelor, Helbig etc. that is the major issue.
I blame the selection commutative. and not Grigg or Houli. I try and back the coaching staff 100% but not when they are selfish are try to win games now instead do what is best for Richmond to win a flag - ie. Terry Wallace.
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Stats just are rubbish
Grigg shuts his eyes when going for overhead marks.
Opposition have also work him over game wise as they are aware of his lateral zoning off.
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Stats just are rubbish
Grigg shuts his eyes when going for overhead marks.
Opposition have also work him over game wise as they are aware of his lateral zoning off.
Agree 100%. I forgot to strikeout Grigg.
Grigg gets the ball but he kicks hang in the air too long. I could make a cup of tea but the time comes back to earth.
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Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.
Mate, we paid nothing for them, they were free and upgrades on what we had. Gotten better value out of them than we would have gotten out of picks 80 and 90 in the draft imo. Not sure what more you think the club couldve done? Give away top draft picks to land "superstars"?
I'm an unashamed Houli fan, think he gets a bum wrap from supporters and is good value overall. Put him in our top dozen no problem.
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Houli must learn from mistakes and try and not make them over and over.
.....must be goal side of your direct opponent at a stoppage near goal......
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Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.
Mate, we paid nothing for them, they were free and upgrades on what we had. Gotten better value out of them than we would have gotten out of picks 80 and 90 in the draft imo. Not sure what more you think the club couldve done? Give away top draft picks to land "superstars"?
I'm an unashamed Houli fan, think he gets a bum wrap from supporters and is good value overall. Put him in our top dozen no problem.
on the money there tony. some seem to think you can just fill your stable with stars like fantasy football.
i wouldnt call myself an anabashed fan of houli, but i have time for him. His disposal was an ingredient badly lacking when we got him .
Had 9 tackles on the weekend too, did Bachar .:shh
He does still go to ground too easily, but that has improved since he arrived.
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Well it took a while but I been proven correct on recruiting players like Grigg & Houli - been a waste of time. Should have developed a couple of kids during this time to play these roles.
Mate, we paid nothing for them, they were free and upgrades on what we had. Gotten better value out of them than we would have gotten out of picks 80 and 90 in the draft imo. Not sure what more you think the club couldve done? Give away top draft picks to land "superstars"?
I'm an unashamed Houli fan, think he gets a bum wrap from supporters and is good value overall. Put him in our top dozen no problem.
on the money there tony. some seem to think you can just fill your stable with stars like fantasy football.
i wouldnt call myself an anabashed fan of houli, but i have time for him. His disposal was an ingredient badly lacking when we got him .
Had 9 tackles on the weekend too, did Bachar .:shh
He does still go to ground too easily, but that has improved since he arrived.
Agree with you both. Houli is the least of our problems and well inside our best 22.
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Would any of those boys be in the best 22 players at Geelong, Essendon, Hawthorn, Sydney?
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Would any of those boys be in the best 22 players at Geelong, Essendon, Hawthorn, Sydney?
Probably, yes, because they would have the support on field that lets them play their natural game.
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We look unfit
No run
Anyone think there is a possibility the club want the players to hit peak fitness after the bye round so we don't run out of steam in the run home?
Issue is we may have derailed by then...
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yeah, possible on both counts.
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My thoughts...
Out Vickery, Maric,Petterd (inj) Newman, Jackson, , White (omit)
In Tuck, Foley, Stephenson, Edwards, Griffiths, Nahas
Tuck must play!!! End the farce.
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Other than injuries to the ones already mentioned would love to see Foley and Tuck in.
If Jackson is not omitted then Hardwick needs to start being questioned. He can't keep hiding behind turning over of players and how young our list is.
Reminds me of mid to late 90's now. We were a middle of the road side who could go either way.
Time to reinvest in the kids.
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Other than injuries to the ones already mentioned would love to see Foley and Tuck in.
If Jackson is not omitted then Hardwick needs to start being questioned. He can't keep hiding behind turning over of players and how young our list is.
Reminds me of mid to late 90's now. We were a middle of the road side who could go either way.
Time to reinvest in the kids.
You want to invest in kids but also want to see tuck and foley in the side :huh
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Other than injuries to the ones already mentioned would love to see Foley and Tuck in.
If Jackson is not omitted then Hardwick needs to start being questioned. He can't keep hiding behind turning over of players and how young our list is.
Reminds me of mid to late 90's now. We were a middle of the road side who could go either way.
Time to reinvest in the kids.
You want to invest in kids but also want to see tuck and foley in the side :huh
Not too hard to comprehend, there are plenty of mature tried and tested players in our lineup other than Foley and Tuck that arent up to it that could and should make way for several of these young guys
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Forget Foley for a few weeks...he still has a limp.
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I want to see the "biscuit".
Love to see this bad ass dude getting a game and showing some steel.
Too many pansies in the team!
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I want to see the "biscuit".
Love to see this bad ass dude getting a game and showing some steel.
Too many pansies in the team!
Someone like Stuart Maxfield that had a hard edge but could bust through a pack?
Or someone like Scotty Turner or Johnny Howat that could deck someone with a good hip and shoulder?
So true Y & B. too many softys for my liking.
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As mentioned in the Footy Classified thread, Lyon said Grimes (foot) is 50/50 while Petterd (calf) will miss this week.
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Grimes will be lucky to play apparently, or is that the brother?
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Grimes will be lucky to play apparently, or is that the brother?
His brother won't. Broken collar bone.
As for changes, if we have so many out injured it's hard to see many, if any omissions. Too many changes is disaster.
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The Barometer - Round 7
Herald-Sun
May 7, 2013
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: After an almost injury-free start to the season, the Tigers suddenly have a host of sore bodies – and at the worst possible time. As well as the above list Jake King has a hand injury and Dylan Grimes has a sore foot. They will both fly to Adelaide and Maric is a good chance to play but Vickery has to pass a concussion test and Petterd might miss. If there is a selection change due to form, Matt White seems the most likely casualty. He was subbed on for Vickery just after halftime against the Cats and struggled to have any impact on the contest.
ON THE CUSP: Better news here for Tiger fans. Coburg scored an impressive win against Essendon’s VFL side on Saturday with several players putting their names forward for senior selection. Shane Tuck returned from a week’s rest to gather 25 disposals while Nathan Foley is ready to go after 24 touches of his own. Former Roo Aaron Edwards had 22 disposals and took 16 marks, adding two goals to take his tally to 14 in the past three weeks. Robin Nahas booted four, as did young tall Liam McBean. If Maric and/or Vickery doesn’t come up, former Cat Orren Stephenson is waiting in the wings.
AL PATON’S FORECAST: Is it too early to say Richmond’s season is on the line against Port Adelaide on Saturday? After a flying start the Tiger bandwagon is looking wobbly and the AAMI Stadium clash might determine which of these two teams plays in September. After that the Tigers face Melbourne before tough assignments against Essendon and West Coast leading into the bye.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/the-barometer-whos-hurt-and-whos-in-line-for-selection-at-your-club-for-afl-round-7/story-e6frf9jf-1226610940898
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Time to bring Foley in. We can sub him if he tires. We desperately need some spark in the guts.
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Out: Petterd (inj) Grimes (inj) White (omitted)
In: Dea Astbury Foley
With possible late withdrawal/s of Maric, King, Vickery be taking Emg: Big O, Nahas, A.Edwards in the overnight bag
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Suppose we can take as many as we like on the trip
No VFL this week ;D
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In the mix: round seven
afl.com.au
Tuesday, May 7, 2013
RICHMOND
Aaron Edwards could finally get his chance at senior level after an extended run of good form in the VFL if Ty Vickery (concussion) is not fit to travel to AAMI Stadium. Edwards has kicked 19 goals in the past five weeks, and took a massive 16 marks against Essendon at the weekend. Ruckman Orren Stephenson will also be on standby this week if Ivan Maric doesn't recover from an ankle complaint. After a lengthy rehabilitation, Nathan Foley could finally be ready to return from an Achilles tendon injury, with Shane Tuck another option to strengthen the midfield. Both were strong performers for Coburg, along with Robin Nahas, who booted four goals. - Nathan Schmook
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-07/in-the-mix-round-seven
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RFC website confirms both Grimes (foot) and Petterd (calf) are out for the next 1-2 weeks. Maric and Vickery both listed as "test".
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In (Out)
Astbury (Grimes)
Nahas (White)
Foley (Petterd)
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Astbury (Grimes)
Arnot (White)
Dea (Petterd)
Stephenson (Vickery/Maric) I reckon at least one of them won't play
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In : (Out)
Batch : (Grimes)
Dea : (Petterd)
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I can't see Astbury getting a game
Agree with wayne
Batch & Dea will come in for Grimes & Petterd
Unless Maric & Vickery dont' come up I can't see there being any other changes
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I can't see Astbury getting a game
Agree with wayne
Batch & Dea will come in for Grimes & Petterd
Unless Maric & Vickery dont' come up I can't see there being any other changes
Wouldn't be surprised to see Matty White get omitted as well.
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I can't see Astbury getting a game
Agree with wayne
Batch & Dea will come in for Grimes & Petterd
Unless Maric & Vickery dont' come up I can't see there being any other changes
Wouldn't be surprised to see Matty White get omitted as well.
If they want to bring in Foley (who told me last night his ankle/foot is feeling really good :thumbsup) then yep maybe.
With Foley it depends if they intend to see thorugh the "he must play 3 VFL games before he's considered for senior selection" mantra
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Tucky no chance WP?
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I can't see Astbury getting a game
Agree with wayne
Batch & Dea will come in for Grimes & Petterd
Unless Maric & Vickery dont' come up I can't see there being any other changes
Wouldn't be surprised to see Matty White get omitted as well.
If Foley or Tuck don't come in, wouldn't mind finally seeing Arnot have a go for White. Has been in decent form so it's not really gifting a game. Reckon we could use the extra grunt and some bigger nurries in the side at this time. Only if the only outs are Petturd and Grimes though. Wholesale changes are bad, mmkay.
No Arsebury plskthx.
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Tucky no chance WP?
I'd bring back Tuck without hesitation. He's an inside mid and we lacked that last week when things started to turn to pooh
Think everyone knows who I'd drop but those that we (me included) think should be dropped for crimes against the art of disposing of the footy aren't going to be. Reality tells us that the chances of it happening are practically non-existent
On top of that, personally I can't see them making wholesale changes so with that in mind I reckon they go with Foley ahead of Tucky
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The reason I reckon they will go with Astbury is because Port have some height in their forward line and we might need to bolster our defence in that area.
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I can't see Astbury getting a game
Agree with wayne
Batch & Dea will come in for Grimes & Petterd
Unless Maric & Vickery dont' come up I can't see there being any other changes
I can't see Dea getting a game. I agree with Torch except I believe that they will bring in Tuck for Petterd. I also believe that either Edwards or Stephenson will come in for Vickery.
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Reckon Vickery will play
I wouldn't play him as I am believer in concussed players having an automatic week off but footy clubs don't usually take the conservative approach
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I can't see Astbury getting a game
Agree with wayne
Batch & Dea will come in for Grimes & Petterd
Unless Maric & Vickery dont' come up I can't see there being any other changes
Wouldn't be surprised to see Matty White get omitted as well.
If they want to bring in Foley (who told me last night his ankle/foot is feeling really good :thumbsup) then yep maybe.
With Foley it depends if they intend to see thorugh the "he must play 3 VFL games before he's considered for senior selection" mantra
Hasn't he played 3 games now? Or do you mean 3 full games?
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A month of footy with at least 2-3 full games
So far he's played 1 full game; last week
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looked crap for coburg, does not warrant selection at all
if foley get selected thats bs
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if foley get selected thats bs
I agree. Wasn't up to standard and was hobbling after the game. Arnot and Tuck performed better in the midfield than he did.
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if foley get selected thats bs
I agree. Wasn't up to standard and was hobbling after the game. Arnot and Tuck performed better in the midfield than he did.
Certainly wasn't hobbling last night, walking fine and said the ankle/foot was good.
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Username, I quite enjoy your opinions, even if I seldom agree with them. But your posts about Foley are completely void of balance or objectivity and are therefore useless to us all.
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b/ morris - chaplin - grimes. chaplins turn overs concern me.
hb/ vlastuin - rance/astbury - dea. sick to death of the mistakes and poor judgement from rance he must be in the gun. astbury must be close.
c/ ellis - tuck - deledio. had enough of grigg and his soft efforts, almost non existent defensive game and poor foot skills. gotta bring tuck back in.
hf/ edwards - astbury/elton - martin. if we dont play astbury back play him forward if not astbury give elton a goif for no other reason than experience.
f/ maric - riewoldt - king. play ivan as a third tall restig ruck forward. play him 70% forward. and give him a break.
r/ stephenson - cotchin - foley
int/ knights/edwards - newman - houli - helbig/arnot. tempted to do a sydney and just rotate two ruckman from the bench with pinch hits forward aaron edwards gives us a different type of structure.
ins - stephenson - astbury - dea - tuck - foley and one of helbig or arnot. possibly but unlikely elton and a edwards.
outs - vickery inj/poor form - rance poor form- white not up to standard- grigg poor form and soft as - petterd not up to it - mcguane very harsh but hes not the way forward.
oh and i know 5 or 6 changes is not going to happen im hoping for at least 4 thoiugh.
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Im surprised people are still calling for McGuane to be dropped. The guys is in our top 10 performed players so far this season and is getting better and better the more games he gets under his belt up forward. Its like all those years of confidence sapping hammerings he took playing down back are being whittled away game by game. Every mug deserves an even break, he's earnt his.
He's gone from being a scrapper that battles hard to now winning more than his share of 1 on 1 contests, if he doesnt win the contest he neutralises it, which is what all good forwards should do.
What he still needs to work on is to now lead higher up the ground more often, as both jack and Vickery just dont have the work ethic to continually give us a chop out leading up the wings. Ideally Lids could play this role for us for sustained periods in matches once Tuck, Foley and Conca are firmly entrenched back in that midfield. That would be a forward line that would be hard to matchup on.
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A month of footy with at least 2-3 full games
So far he's played 1 full game; last week
Yeah but did they say 3 full games or just 3 weeks?
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b/ morris - chaplin - grimes. chaplins turn overs concern me.
hb/ vlastuin - rance/astbury - dea. sick to death of the mistakes and poor judgement from rance he must be in the gun. astbury must be close.
c/ ellis - tuck - deledio. had enough of grigg and his soft efforts, almost non existent defensive game and poor foot skills. gotta bring tuck back in.
hf/ edwards - astbury/elton - martin. if we dont play astbury back play him forward if not astbury give elton a goif for no other reason than experience.
f/ maric - riewoldt - king. play ivan as a third tall restig ruck forward. play him 70% forward. and give him a break.
r/ stephenson - cotchin - foley
int/ knights/edwards - newman - houli - helbig/arnot. tempted to do a sydney and just rotate two ruckman from the bench with pinch hits forward aaron edwards gives us a different type of structure.
ins - stephenson - astbury - dea - tuck - foley and one of helbig or arnot. possibly but unlikely elton and a edwards.
outs - vickery inj/poor form - rance poor form- white not up to standard- grigg poor form and soft as - petterd not up to it - mcguane very harsh but hes not the way forward.
oh and i know 5 or 6 changes is not going to happen im hoping for at least 4 thoiugh.
Didn't you say to never mess with structure?
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A month of footy with at least 2-3 full games
So far he's played 1 full game; last week
Yeah but did they say 3 full games or just 3 weeks?
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They said at least 1 month = 4 weeks at VFL level and that he needed to play at least 2-3 full games
First couple of games were to be part games. 1st game was half a game , 2nd was about 75% game time and then full games. Currently he's played only 1 full game
Clear :huh
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Im surprised people are still calling for McGuane to be dropped. The guys is in our top 10 performed players so far this season and is getting better and better the more games he gets under his belt up forward. Its like all those years of confidence sapping hammerings he took playing down back are being whittled away game by game. Every mug deserves an even break, he's earnt his.
He's gone from being a scrapper that battles hard to now winning more than his share of 1 on 1 contests, if he doesnt win the contest he neutralises it, which is what all good forwards should do.
What he still needs to work on is to now lead higher up the ground more often, as both jack and Vickery just dont have the work ethic to continually give us a chop out leading up the wings. Ideally Lids could play this role for us for sustained periods in matches once Tuck, Foley and Conca are firmly entrenched back in that midfield. That would be a forward line that would be hard to matchup on.
fair call
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Im surprised people are still calling for McGuane to be dropped. The guys is in our top 10 performed players so far this season and is getting better and better the more games he gets under his belt up forward. Its like all those years of confidence sapping hammerings he took playing down back are being whittled away game by game. Every mug deserves an even break, he's earnt his.
He's gone from being a scrapper that battles hard to now winning more than his share of 1 on 1 contests, if he doesnt win the contest he neutralises it, which is what all good forwards should do.
What he still needs to work on is to now lead higher up the ground more often, as both jack and Vickery just dont have the work ethic to continually give us a chop out leading up the wings. Ideally Lids could play this role for us for sustained periods in matches once Tuck, Foley and Conca are firmly entrenched back in that midfield. That would be a forward line that would be hard to matchup on.
Good post TM.
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Ivan and TV are 50/50. We're giving them both right up to the Saturday to see if they will be right. So I'm guessing they will be both named in the team tonight and we'll make a late change if need be. I would rest both. There's no point risking blokes who aren't right just for one H/A game. It usually just backfires.
In: Stephenson, A.Edwards, Batchelor, Tuck, Foley.
Out: Maric, Vickery, Grimes, Petterd (all inj.), White (omitted).
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They said at least 1 month = 4 weeks at VFL level and that he needed to play at least 2-3 full games
With Foley it depends if they intend to see thorugh the "he must play 3 VFL games before he's considered for senior selection" mantra
WHICH ONE IS IT
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b/ morris - chaplin - grimes. chaplins turn overs concern me.
hb/ vlastuin - rance/astbury - dea. sick to death of the mistakes and poor judgement from rance he must be in the gun. astbury must be close.
c/ ellis - tuck - deledio. had enough of grigg and his soft efforts, almost non existent defensive game and poor foot skills. gotta bring tuck back in.
hf/ edwards - astbury/elton - martin. if we dont play astbury back play him forward if not astbury give elton a goif for no other reason than experience.
f/ maric - riewoldt - king. play ivan as a third tall restig ruck forward. play him 70% forward. and give him a break.
r/ stephenson - cotchin - foley
int/ knights/edwards - newman - houli - helbig/arnot. tempted to do a sydney and just rotate two ruckman from the bench with pinch hits forward aaron edwards gives us a different type of structure.
ins - stephenson - astbury - dea - tuck - foley and one of helbig or arnot. possibly but unlikely elton and a edwards.
outs - vickery inj/poor form - rance poor form- white not up to standard- grigg poor form and soft as - petterd not up to it - mcguane very harsh but hes not the way forward.
oh and i know 5 or 6 changes is not going to happen im hoping for at least 4 thoiugh.
Didn't you say to never mess with structure?
did you look at the team 3 tall defenders 3 tall forwards plus edwards or two ruckmen one playing mostly forward and edwards most would argue its too tall.
with all the injuries now confirmed i would have liked to see
b/ morris - chaplin - rance rance gets grimes third tall role.
hb/ vlastuin - astbury - dea. astbury gives us huge flexability. he takes on a kpd role probably on westhoff.
c/ deledio - tuck - ellis. an inside ball winning machine in tuck with quick and skillful players flanking him
hf/ s edwards - riewoldt - king pretty mobile hf line
f/ maric - mcguane - a edwards ivan plays vickerys role of primarily forward who spends some time in ruck. easy to change it up if we wish just by taking one of maric or edwards off.
r/ stepenson - martin - foley. orren can hold his own in the ruck
int/ newman - helbig - houli - grigg last chance shaun or knights/nahas. all can privide good run.