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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: torch on September 05, 2013, 09:42:12 PM
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Wants out of Brisbane.
GET HIM!
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Wants to come back to vic Hmmm, should chase?
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Barrett said Longer is an 85% chance of coming home to Victoria.
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been on the radar here for yonks. If I could only find the thread. Hopefully we are chasing as that plugs our ruck issue.
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Straight swap for Gus!
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He might like the prospects here, we can ease him into first ruck.
It would cost a first round pick though.
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Not getting a game at bears, first rounder pfft second and derrixyz
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He averages 2 kicks and 1 mark a game, either a 4th rounder or rookie listing beckons, Blair and Dan are past masters at this kinda stuff, if we want him we ll get him, at our price, no more :shh
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Yep we'll be paying peanuts BJ. ;D
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Is he any good in the ruck?
Seems to get a few hitouts but are they effective at all? And I'm assuming he mostly played when Leuenberger was injured anyway so that stat is likely inflated due to him being primary ruck.
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Club has been after him and Taylor Adams. Not sure which is the no.1 preference though so it's really useless information. ;D
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He might like the prospects here, we can ease him into first ruck.
It would cost a first round pick though.
Yep, ease him in like an old man into a hot bath :shh
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isn't this bloke a fairy?
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king queen of the queers
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isn't this bloke a fairy?
Meaning? Not hard at it? Or enjoys a good Banana lounge?
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isn't this bloke a fairy?
Meaning? Not hard at it? Or enjoys a good Banana lounge?
Not hard at it. Can't hack it away from home. Mummy's boy.
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isn't this bloke a fairy?
Meaning? Not hard at it? Or enjoys a good Banana lounge?
Not hard at it. Can't hack it away from home. Mummy's boy.
Fair enough. We don't need a soft ruckman. I wish there was another Brodie Grundy floating around. Pies have a ripper there.
Wonder if Currie is worth looking at?
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Thing is he hasn't had a real go due to luenberger, could get cheap and maric has no real backup yet.
Get him in the Richmond magoos for a season or two and see what happens?
The tiger jumper seems to be working magically well atm :thumbsup
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his interview after the draft he sounded like a Prahran prowler. not that theres anything wrong with that
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Club has been after him and Taylor Adams. Not sure which is the no.1 preference though so it's really useless information. ;D
Adams>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Longer
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The Tigers ... have been linked to Taylor Adams, from Greater Western Sydney and Brisbane back-up ruckman Billy Longer.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/jay-clark-analyses-the-burning-issues-at-richmond/story-fnia6oop-1226715399762
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Club has been after him and Taylor Adams. Not sure which is the no.1 preference though so it's really useless information. ;D
Adams>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Longer
Also Adams shorter than Longer!
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Get them both through Pre-Season Draft!
Or give GWS Nahas, McGuane for Adams! lol!
This is where Richmond will be stupid and trade top picks!
NO!
Keep first three round draft picks!
Think we have Pick 11?
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Hawthorn chasing Longer according to today's Herald-Sun.
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Brisbane saying they will only do deals that benefit the club and will send players to the highest bidder, not the club of choice
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Brisbane saying they will only do deals that benefit the club and will send players to the highest bidder, not the club of choice
Can you blame them?
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Brisbane saying they will only do deals that benefit the club and will send players to the highest bidder, not the club of choice
Except they can't send him where he doesn't want to go. :lol
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Brisbane saying they will only do deals that benefit the club and will send players to the highest bidder, not the club of choice
Can you blame them?
Well no not really in Longers (and most players) case. Just saying that it makes it slightly harder to get him for peanuts :thumbsup
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Jay Clarke from the HUN is saying that former number 5 pick Jared Polec has quit the Lions as well
From Twitter
Jay Clark @ClarkyHeraldSun: Jared Polec quits Lions. That's Karnezis, Longer (8) and Polec (5) all wanting to head home. Port and Adel vying for Polec's signature.
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Wouldn't mind Polec but not worth anything if his quitting to go home
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Wouldn't mind Polec but not worth anything if his quitting to go home
Supposedly that is the case. Saying he is lock to get to Port Adelaide
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Wouldn't mind Polec but not worth anything if his quitting to go home
Supposedly that is the case. Saying he is lock to get to Port Adelaide
Longer it is :shh
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Billy Longer has attracted the interest of Richmond and Hawthorn ...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-reportedly-offering-reece-conca-reduced-contract-to-stay-at-punt-road/story-fndv8t7m-1226717252852
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Maric was interviewed and said he thinks that Orren will still be at Richmond next season and that the club needs a young developing ruck to work under himself and Big O. Maybe hinting that we should/could be looking at Longer?
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The same poster on BF with the Adams info (Tiger71) says we are out of the race for Longer. We'll see if he is right or not.
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again for me the question is what can we offer up to get longer. and for that matter adams.
billy longer is a top 10 pick. just two yrs into his career. is a great size and has shown plenty as a pure ruckman. he really looks the goods.
adams well hes a beauty big bodied tough good skills and smart. these type of mids win premierships when the going gets tough.
one thing for sure if conca and martin are keepers we have no uncontracted players of decent value to offer for either.
that means we must offer up a contracted player or players who are willing to go.
ive gone thru several variations on scenarios but one thing is clear to get quality you have to offer up quality. or in our case percieved quality.
for me one who has some value ATM and is expendable because we have a similar type is vickery.
yep mi know whats going to be said here we go again.
personally id trade vickey in any number of scenarios, one scenario is vickery to gws for taylor adams. it would be a steal.
id then offer up brisbane our first rounder for longer.
my thinking is we have mcbean who can take vickerys spot and in all honesty he already looks a better player. gws are chasing ruckmen and ruck forwards who can offer something now its a win win.
pick 11 or 12 for longer this draft geez we will be lucky to find a better player. again brisbane get a damn good pick for a player who is going to go regardless they make the most out of a bad situation and its a win win again.
two serious list needs addressed with little loss imo certainly no long term loss.
i would then be looking to find a way to get back into say a top 30 top 25 pick in the nd. not sure how. with adams longer and say picks 25 28 and 46 we hwould have the means to address a lot of list needs with quality kids and decent picks.
at the end of the day you have to give up something decent to get something decent.
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My mail is we re out of the race for longer and lycett may come into play should greedy little conca try and graft an extra zero on the contract, money is not everything Reece :shh
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Dude he only wants $350k I don't think he's asking for too much lol. Doesn't seem greedy to me at all and he apparently wants to stay.
Vickery for Adams might be worth a shot IF McBean is ready to rock in 2014.
As for Longer I don't agree with giving up our first pick for just a bloke who's not getting a game. Maybe ask for a second round pick from Bris to come with him. That sounds more fair IMO.
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Claw, in your opinion is Adams worth pick 11 this year?
I love Adams, he's set to become an absolute Gun the same mould as Hodge. I'm not sure if GWS would want it over experienced players but I'de be putting our first rounder up for him for sure.
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I doubt they'll take pick 11 for Adams. Looks a great player. They've invested 2-3 years in him already. Unless the top 15 are awesome picks this year, which apparently they aren't, it would just be a step back for them.
Cameron said next year is all about respect for them and losing the 'easy beats' tag. This they'll want mature bodies IE Vickery.
Brisbane on the other hand is losing all its early picked players. With a youngish team already they'll probably be more likely to take a pick for Longer.
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I doubt they'll take pick 11 for Adams. Looks a great player. They've invested 2-3 years in him already. Unless the top 15 are awesome picks this year, which apparently they aren't, it would just be a step back for them.
Cameron said next year is all about respect for them and losing the 'easy beats' tag. This they'll want mature bodies IE Vickery.
Brisbane on the other hand is losing all its early picked players. With a youngish team already they'll probably be more likely to take a pick for Longer.
I agree, I don't see them wanting it either, but bundled with some steak knives like a White or bachelor, Astbury Griffiths ect could see a deal happen. Ultimately they would be looking to on trade the pick for another mature ager but it may just well help them get something else across the line....
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Agree re: Lions and Longer. I can't remember if I read or it was mentioned on 360 or something, but I'm sure I heard that GWS won't value picks as much since they've already got enough snot noses they're trying to develop. Rather they want to trade their surplus to get more talented mature bodies on the field. So our first pick would probably be worth a lot more to the Lions with so many of their high picks possibly on the move than to the Giants.
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My mail is we re out of the race for longer and lycett may come into play should greedy little conca try and graft an extra zero on the contract, money is not everything Reece :shh
what in case he asks for 3.5million a season? your mail must be getting sent from a crack head bj
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more likely scenario with GWS and adams would be our first pick going to a third party and a player from them then being ontraded to GWS.
Can essondon trade into the early rounds of the draft?
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Can essondon trade into the early rounds of the draft?
Yep.
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My mail is we re out of the race for longer and lycett may come into play should greedy little conca try and graft an extra zero on the contract, money is not everything Reece :shh
what in case he asks for 3.5million a season? your mail must be getting sent from a crack head bj
:lol
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Can essondon trade into the early rounds of the draft?
Yes they can
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So would that mean pick 11 to Essendon, Bellchambers to GWS and Adams to The Tigers?
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So would that mean pick 11 to Essendon, Bellchambers to GWS and Adams to The Tigers?
Yep that deal would be allowed under Essendon's conditions
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So would that mean pick 11 to Essendon, Bellchambers to GWS and Adams to The Tigers?
Bang, bang and BANG!!
Get it done Tiga :clapping :clapping
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So would that mean pick 11 to Essendon, Bellchambers to GWS and Adams to The Tigers?
Bang, bang and BANG!!
Get it done Tiga :clapping :clapping
Would rather Bellchambers
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So would that mean pick 11 to Essendon, Bellchambers to GWS and Adams to The Tigers?
Bang, bang and BANG!!
Get it done Tiga :clapping :clapping
Would rather Bellchambers
Not if we're getting Ryder as a free agent ;)
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Don't start your winking. Worse than the Beige Brigade and their info is better :lol
Mattthomas.com
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Don't start your winking. Worse than the Beige Brigade and their info is better :lol
Mattthomas.com
;D ;D Loui's in the know dude👯👯
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And what does Vinesy think about Loui and his info brother?
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And what does Vinesy think about Loui and his info brother?
Rexy loves it 😘😘
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No way I would give our pick 11 for Longer. Unless he is a Nic Nat type, I wouldn't even think about it. Why would you use pick 11 on a ruckman that would be playing second fiddle to Ivan for the next 4 years. We need to improve our best 22 now, not in 4 years time..
IMO the best thing to do with getting a decent ruckman is to trade for one after they have been on another list for awhile. A player that is maybe second in line at their current club that wants more oppotunities. IE Griffen a couple of years ago from Freeo.
With ruckman, unless you are elite like Cox or Nic Nat, you just need to compete like big Ivan. He is no superstar but has a go. Even Big O, which we got for nothing is good enough to play a roll.
Perfect example this coming trade period is Mumford, if big Ivan was on his last legs, you would try and trade for him.
If its good enough for the Sydney Swans to do, I recon we could learn a thing or two from them.
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Well said BT. Unless his one out of the box I would rather more a grade midfielders. You can't have enough
These ruckman have played in GF of late, hardly the best going around apart from a few, but they played their role
Hale
Sandi
West
Bailey
Jolly
Leigh Brown
Mummy
Blake
Kosi
Mcevoy
Pyke
Ottens
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Longer = Cam Wood
Dud. Delist.
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Can't see Richmond parting with Pick 11 for anything other than Adams.
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I would part with 11 for Adams but would probably want a bit more in return (on the basis he nominates Richmond as his preferred club).
GWS only need to use 3 picks and they have 1, 9 and 19 I think so getting 11 means they have some other picks that we could target. Even something like adding in a swap of 28 for 19 would help us a lot.
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GWS will want a first round replacement pick for losing their pick 1 to the Hawks for Buddy. That will come through Adams from us or Collingwood. We won't get another first rounder as well. If we are luck we may be able to swap 2nd round selections but I doubt it.
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GWS will want a first round replacement pick for losing their pick 1 to the Hawks for Buddy. That will come through Adams from us or Collingwood. We won't get another first rounder as well. If we are luck we may be able to swap 2nd round selections but I doubt it.
? Buddy is a restricted free agent. As such, GWS do not have to part with pick 1. Hawks will only get compensation picks and that won't include pick 1.
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correct, hawks will get a pick right after their first pick for buddy as compensation, so roughly pick 20
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If the Hawks go for Mumford as part of the Buddy move to Sydney then that could mean they are no longer interested in Longer?
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Is it possible that rather than Mumford Jesse White may be used as part trade?
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Is it possible that rather than Mumford Jesse White may be used as part trade?
Jeese White wants to go to Collingwood (who want another KPF alongside Cloke) whereas the Hawks (who want a ruckman) are interested in Mumford.
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every year the swans offer up white and no-one wants the dud :lol
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3AW are reporting that Billy Longer has requested a trade from Brisbane to Hawthorn, with a trade to be facilitated as soon as tomorrow.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Ch 7 news said the Hawks will use their compo pick (from losing Buddy) and trade it to Brisbane for Longer.
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3AW are reporting that Billy Longer has requested a trade from Brisbane to Hawthorn, with a trade to be facilitated as soon as tomorrow.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Ch 7 news said the Hawks will use their compo pick (from losing Buddy) and trade it to Brisbane for Longer.
They won't have that compo for about 2 weeks :shh
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3AW are reporting that Billy Longer has requested a trade from Brisbane to Hawthorn, with a trade to be facilitated as soon as tomorrow.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Ch 7 news said the Hawks will use their compo pick (from losing Buddy) and trade it to Brisbane for Longer.
They won't have that compo for about 2 weeks :shh
that compo pick will only be pick 20 odd. at that price they are stealing him.
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3AW are reporting that Billy Longer has requested a trade from Brisbane to Hawthorn, with a trade to be facilitated as soon as tomorrow.
https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews
Ch 7 news said the Hawks will use their compo pick (from losing Buddy) and trade it to Brisbane for Longer.
They won't have that compo for about 2 weeks :shh
that compo pick will only be pick 20 odd. at that price they are stealing him.
IMO it will be compo and Savage.
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yeah, would be stunned if it was only pick 18 or 19. Bris will want more than that