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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 13, 2013, 12:26:35 AM
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Richmond star Jake King gave bandidos boss Toby Mitchell VIP entry into MCG rooms
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
September 13, 2013
RICHMOND has told firebrand forward Jake King to end an association with Bandidos boss Toby Mitchell.
King invited Mitchell into the Richmond rooms at the MCG while sidelined with injury after the Round 20 win over Brisbane.
The club was quickly made aware of the bikie enforcer's presence on the day and later told King the association was totally unacceptable.
Richmond has also told its entire playing list how important it is that they do not associate with criminals in any way.
Club officials have played down the link between Mitchell and King, saying they are casual acquaintances rather than close friends.
But given the AFL's determination to crack down on organised crime in sport, Richmond has acted swiftly.
Mitchell has twice survived attempts on his life.
He was shot in March and also five times in November 2011 outside a Brunswick gym.
A Tigers spokesman said yesterday King now knew his responsibilities.
"Jake has been counselled specifically on that issue and our playing group are counselled more broadly about off-field issues, as would be the case at all clubs,'' he said.
The AFL is particularly sensitive about any links to criminals given the Australian Crime Commission's February report warning of the potential danger of criminals consorting with elite athletes given "relationships … can be exploited by criminals to corrupt the athlete''.
"Overseas experience has also demonstrated that criminal identities and groups will invest years developing such relationships, with the ultimate aim of having the athlete participate in activities such as match-fixing,'' it stated.
There is no accusation of any links of any criminal nature between Mitchell and King, but it illustrates why Richmond was proactive in warning its players.
Richmond says there is no connection between Mitchell and midfielder Dustin Martin's handcuffs salute in the loss to Carlton.
He received a suspended $2000 fine from the AFL, which is cracking down on those gestures given the sensitivities involved.
King, affectionately dubbed "The Pushup King'', has a reputation as one of footy's more colourful characters.
In August 2011 he was warned not to breach an intervention order after allegedly threatening a man, but was not charged with any offence.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-jake-king-gave-bandidos-boss-toby-mitchell-vip-entry-into-mcg-rooms/story-stuff-1226718073333
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Should've got him to threaten the Carltank players before the game
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idiot move by King, gotta be smarter. Thought he was more grown up than that.
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There are thousands of kids who would to love to get into the rooms after the game , many of whom may be disadvantaged. Invite them in instead.
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Does Toby even barrack for Richmond?
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People wonder why good players don't wanna play AFL football, Because they have a right to control their life outside of football. fans think its all great being a high profile footballer in fact to some its hell.
l'm totally against any employer trying to control ones life outside of work. l see it no different than someone controlling another person in a relationship. just wrong, if Kingy wants to be a Bandido or a RockStar its his choice.
l would walk away from any job trying to control my life outside of work. They have rights
sorry must go wife wants me ;D
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People wonder why good players don't wanna play AFL football, Because they have a right to control their life outside of football. fans think its all great being a high profile footballer in fact to some its hell.
l'm totally against any employer trying to control ones life outside of work. l see it no different than someone controlling another person in a relationship. just wrong, if Kingy wants to be a Bandido or a RockStar its his choice.
l would walk away from any job trying to control my life outside of work. They have rights
sorry must go wife wants me ;D
Sorry mate, that's absolute crap. Jake King represents Richmond - a club and a brand. Players know this, that's just the way it is. I'm pretty peeed off with him over this. No judgement towards the bandidos or anyone involved, but they're a known criminal organisation. Any association with Richmond hurts everything about the club, INCLUDING those nerdish supporters who spend hours a day on football forum websites. If you want to be involved in something like that, don't do it whilst playing for the club. Being an AFL footballer isn't a job, its a lifestyle. Perhaps players need to be further drilled with this idea in mind before they put pen to paper. I'm really peeed off here.
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People wonder why good players don't wanna play AFL football, Because they have a right to control their life outside of football. fans think its all great being a high profile footballer in fact to some its hell.
l'm totally against any employer trying to control ones life outside of work. l see it no different than someone controlling another person in a relationship. just wrong, if Kingy wants to be a Bandido or a RockStar its his choice.
l would walk away from any job trying to control my life outside of work. They have rights
sorry must go wife wants me ;D
True to some extent but Richmond does have the right to control who does and who does not enter the rooms.
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l don't see anything wrong with Kingy who is always bringing the 1% into his game ;D
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RICHMOND star forward Jack Riewoldt says Bandidos boss Toby Mitchell is a "pretty good fella" after he met him in the club's rooms at the MCG.
Firebrand forward Jake King invited Mitchell into the rooms while he was sidelined with injury after the Round 20 win over Brisbane.
Richmond was quickly made aware of the bikie enforcer's presence on the day and later told King the association was totally unacceptable.
Riewoldt told Gold FM today: "I did see him in there, he was in there with his mum who's a mad Richmond supporter.
"I had a couple of words with him ... I think Jake's friends with him and he just came in."
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-jake-king-gave-bandidos-boss-toby-mitchell-vip-entry-into-mcg-rooms/story-stuff-1226718073333
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Tiger's invite to Bandido bikie 'pretty stupid'
By Matt Thompson
afl.com.au
11:00am AEST Friday, September 13, 2013
AFL CHIEF executive Andrew Demetriou says a Richmond player's decision to invite a senior bikie figure into the club's dressing rooms was "pretty stupid".
Demetriou said he would personally contact Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale club on Friday, after it emerged Bandidos leader Toby Mitchell had visited the rooms with an injured Jake King after the side's round 20 win over the Brisbane Lions.
He said the League was concerned people of certain backgrounds had the potential to "infiltrate" the code.
"We know after the past 12 months, from our code's perspective, it's not what we want," Demetriou told reporters in Melbourne.
"I'm surprised given the level of awareness, the efforts we've gone to with each club, to explain the importance of this particular issue … in fact I think it's pretty stupid."
Richmond has reportedly warned King he should cut ties with Mitchell.
It comes as the AFL ramps up efforts to protect the integrity of the code.
The League is set to seek greater powers from the Federal and State Governments to allow access to information collected by police and other authorities.
"People want to watch a game that's pure, and the potential or the threat of any match fixing or information sharing has the potential to erode people's confidence in the game," Demetriou said.
"We've taken every measure possible to mitigate that risk.
"At this point in time, both we and the police are frustrated by that inability to do that."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-13/no-deal-on-reid-demetriou
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RICHMOND star forward Jack Riewoldt says Bandidos boss Toby Mitchell is a "pretty good fella" after he met him in the club's rooms at the MCG.
Firebrand forward Jake King invited Mitchell into the rooms while he was sidelined with injury after the Round 20 win over Brisbane.
Richmond was quickly made aware of the bikie enforcer's presence on the day and later told King the association was totally unacceptable.
Riewoldt told Gold FM today: "I did see him in there, he was in there with his mum who's a mad Richmond supporter.
"I had a couple of words with him ... I think Jake's friends with him and he just came in."
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-star-jake-king-gave-bandidos-boss-toby-mitchell-vip-entry-into-mcg-rooms/story-stuff-1226718073333
Jack shut up, club says they aint friends you say they are ::)
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WGAF. Not wanting him in the rooms is fine but telling someone to cut ties with a bloke is a disgrace. Kingy doesn't tell you duds how to run the club.
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Martin & Connors ::)
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WGAF. Not wanting him in the rooms is fine but telling someone to cut ties with a bloke is a disgrace. Kingy doesn't tell you duds how to run the club.
If I was the CEO of one our major sponsors that's putting in $1-2mil a year I might just GAF
It's all about the brand and perception
Rightly or wrongly that's what it's about
Investors and that's what sponsors and members for that matter are, want not only value but also want to some assurances that their brand is not being tarnished by the brand they are investing in
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He is a mate of Kingy's, WGAF. He won't be back in the rooms again so WGAF. King can be mates with every criminal in Australia for all I care. That's his business. Obviously he won't be inviting anymore seedy characters to the rooms. Pretty easy to move on from this without telling him who he can and can't talk to.
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Agree with senior coach Davey
Move on folks it's been dealt with
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WGAF. Not wanting him in the rooms is fine but telling someone to cut ties with a bloke is a disgrace. Kingy doesn't tell you duds how to run the club.
Didn't kingy tell Wallace what he thought of him and his ability to coach one time behind closed doors?
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No.
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Richmond footballer Jake King snubs club bikie ban on Toby Mitchell
Jon Kaila, Aaron Langmaid
From: Herald Sun
December 15, 2013 11:00PM
EXCLUSIVE: CONTROVERSIAL Richmond footballer Jake King has defied club orders to end his association with former Bandidos boss Toby Mitchell.
The pair was photographed seated watching lingerie-clad women play American football at AAMI Park at the weekend - just months after Richmond ordered its player to cut ties with the ex-underworld figurehead.
The Tigers could hit King with fines or suspensions for the continuing friendship.
King did not answer calls and the club refused to comment before the Herald Sun went to print on Sunday night.
It comes after the Australian Crime Commission has warned athletes who associated with criminals put themselves in danger of corruption.
Richmond told King, 29, his association with the former bikie enforcer was totally unacceptable after Mitchell was invited by the firebrand into the Richmond rooms at the MCG during last season's Round 20 win over Brisbane.
It also warned its entire playing list how important it is that they do not associate with criminals in any way.
"Jake has been counselled specifically on that issue and our playing group are counselled more broadly about off-field issues, as would be the case at all clubs,'' a spokesman said at the time.
The Herald Sun can reveal the latest meeting is at least the second time the duo have been seen together in a public place since his "counselling".
A witness said King and Mitchell looked "the best of mates" at the skimpy-dressed women's gridiron match, chatting through the Legends Football League game.
The friends were only separated when Mitchell walked down to a VIP area on the field after the game, with King appearing to keep his distance.
The Richmond forward was also seen with Mitchell at Fog restaurant in Greville Street, Prahran, on November 16.
It came only days after Mitchell told Bandido members he was quitting the club at a meeting on November 9 and sent out a text to others in the club.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-footballer-jake-king-snubs-club-bikie-ban-on-toby-mitchell/story-fndv8t7m-1226783597416
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Club needs to sack him. It can elevate a rookie to replace him.
The tail can't wag the dog......
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:facepalm :booboo :facepalm
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Jake King...well done!! :clapping :clapping
Who he associates should be up to him, the "association" has not impacted on the club nor how he plays his game.
These "Bikie Laws" that have been introduced into Queensland are nothing short of ludicrous Nazi, undemocratic, Communist garbage.
While I don't care much for the person he is with or the club he is associated to not all individuals in clubs are like him or that club. Most are family orientated people that are stereotyped by the Government, some media outlets and the public alike.
RFC; if Jake King was at a nightclub where he was involved with this individual and there was an altercation or fracas then I would totally understand the club taking a stance and terminating his contract. But he watched a game of women's football with him....!!!!
"The Richmond forward was also seen with Mitchell at Fog restaurant in Greville Street, Prahran, on November 16" - Why didn't we hear about then???????
FFS move on. "Controversial Richmond Footballer Jake King" - PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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What's Mitchell been convicted of ::)
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Agree with WA Tiger
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What's Mitchell been convicted of ::)
Its a farce!!!
Geezus, read the paper each morning, the king hits, the rapes, the child molestation....what we are we doing about that???
I could understand if King was hanging out with a pedophile but this is just a pathetic attempt yet again to brand a group in our society that has really done nothing, particularly to the RFC...
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Jake King...well done!! :clapping :clapping
Who he associates should be up to him, the "association" has not impacted on the club nor how he plays his game.
These "Bikie Laws" that have been introduced into Queensland are nothing short of ludicrous Nazi, undemocratic, Communist garbage.
While I don't care much for the person he is with or the club he is associated to not all individuals in clubs are like him or that club. Most are family orientated people that are stereotyped by the Government, some media outlets and the public alike.
RFC; if Jake King was at a nightclub where he was involved with this individual and there was an altercation or fracas then I would totally understand the club taking a stance and terminating his contract. But he watched a game of women's football with him....!!!!
"The Richmond forward was also seen with Mitchell at Fog restaurant in Greville Street, Prahran, on November 16" - Why didn't we hear about then???????
FFS move on. "Controversial Richmond Footballer Jake King" - PLEASE!!!!!!!!
There are certain standards any decent club sets as code of behaviour when players are away from the club. This would include not associating with the underworld. It has been well publicized that the bandidos are not an association that has a great humanitarian record! As such the club is justified in setting rules that prohibit its players from associating with them.
I really cannot see the difference between this and telling players they cannot get drunk in public. The club is setting the standards. The players know those standards. They either follow them or leave.
Do you have children WA tiger? I do and they have rules to follow too. Rules that I have to make them good citizens and to keep them from harms way. This is the same philosophy the club is using to create better players that will keep out of trouble. It's not a matter of controlling who they can and cannot see. That's a far too simplistic assessment of the situation.
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Benny Gale will be on SEN after 8.30
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Jake King...well done!! :clapping :clapping
Who he associates should be up to him, the "association" has not impacted on the club nor how he plays his game.
These "Bikie Laws" that have been introduced into Queensland are nothing short of ludicrous Nazi, undemocratic, Communist garbage.
While I don't care much for the person he is with or the club he is associated to not all individuals in clubs are like him or that club. Most are family orientated people that are stereotyped by the Government, some media outlets and the public alike.
RFC; if Jake King was at a nightclub where he was involved with this individual and there was an altercation or fracas then I would totally understand the club taking a stance and terminating his contract. But he watched a game of women's football with him....!!!!
"The Richmond forward was also seen with Mitchell at Fog restaurant in Greville Street, Prahran, on November 16" - Why didn't we hear about then???????
FFS move on. "Controversial Richmond Footballer Jake King" - PLEASE!!!!!!!!
There are certain standards any decent club sets as code of behaviour when players are away from the club. This would include not associating with the underworld. It has been well publicized that the bandidos are not an association that has a great humanitarian record! As such the club is justified in setting rules that prohibit its players from associating with them.
I really cannot see the difference between this and telling players they cannot get drunk in public. The club is setting the standards. The players know those standards. They either follow them or leave.
Do you have children WA tiger? I do and they have rules to follow too. Rules that I have to make them good citizens and to keep them from harms way. This is the same philosophy the club is using to create better players that will keep out of trouble. It's not a matter of controlling who they can and cannot see. That's a far too simplistic assessment of the situation.
"Underworld" = Proof...Stereotyping!!
Yes I have Children under 18 and yes they are subject to certain rules, non of which take away their democratic rights, including who they see.
"bandidos are not an association that has a great humanitarian record"; He is not associating with the Banditos Club.
Jake King is old enough to do what he wants, IF that impacts on the club and his performance then he pays the price....it hasn't to date.
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LOL. They were watching "lingerie clad women play American football".
First, the term "woman" is used very loosely. Most of those players wouldn't be out of place lining up on Travis Cloke at CHB.
Second, if these trotskies think what they are wearing is lingerie, then these guys probably haven't been with a "woman" anyway.
Overall, a ludicrous, factually inaccurate piece of poo that has become expected from these work experience hacks in off season.
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Jake King is old enough to do what he wants, IF that impacts on the club and his performance then he pays the price....it hasn't to date.
Underlined bit is key point though isn't it
Whether it is right or wrong the point is that there has been and continues to be a massivie crackdown/focus on the links between professional sport and orgnanised crime for reasons I would think are glaringly obvious. It has been made abundantly clear to sporting organisations that sports people should not associate with those who are linked to organisation crimes, they need to be be careful because they will be heavily scrutinised
All players have been warned, not just Jake King.
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Further to that I just saw the photo....FFS... :lol....he is sitting two rows back from him!!!
If you were sitting two rows back from a pedophile does that make you his associate.....what is going on in this world????
HONESTLY..... :help
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Jake King is old enough to do what he wants, IF that impacts on the club and his performance then he pays the price....it hasn't to date.
Underlined bit is key point though isn't it
Whether it is right or wrong the point is that there has been and continues to be a massivie crackdown/focus on the links between professional sport and orgnanised crime for reasons I would think are glaringly obvious. It has been made abundantly clear to sporting organisations that sports people should not associate with those who are linked to organisation crimes, they need to be be careful because they will be heavily scrutinised
All players have been warned, not just Jake King.
Well WP, he has done nothing, that's it really for me.
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Benny Gale on SEN
* Jake King went to the game with a group of friends not Toby Mitchell
* Mitchell was there too, they "bumped" into each other and said "hello" and the photo got taken
* Jake has known the Toby Mitchell and the Mitchell family for a very long time, it pre-dates his involvement at the RFC
* Club doesn't enforce rules as to who players can & cannot associate with but does give advice/counsel as to what is acceptable in a public forum
* Club (including Benny himself) has had a number of chats to Jake about his association with Mitchell
* Benny mentioned about associating with those who have criminal/underworld links and how it can be viewed and what it can lead to
* Unlikely to face suspension but will be talking to him again today
* Not disappointed in the HUN story
* But very disappointed in Jake, needs to make better choices, he is a public figure and when he is in public he represents the RFC
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Benny Gale on SEN
* Jake King went to the game with a group of friends not Toby Mitchell
* Mitchell was there too, they "bumped" into each other and said "hello" and the photo got taken
* Jake has known the Toby Mitchell and the Mitchell family for a very long time, it pre-dates his involvement at the RFC
* Club doesn't enforce rules as to who players can & cannot associate with but does give advice/counsel as to what is acceptable in a public forum
* Club (including Benny himself) has had a number of chats to Jake about his association with Mitchell
* Benny mentioned about associating with those who have criminal/underworld links and how it can be viewed and what it can lead to
* Unlikely to face suspension but will be talking to him again today
* Not disappointed in the HUN story
* But very disappointed in Jake, needs to make better choices, he is a public figure and when he is in public he represents the RFC
Enough said......get off his back!!!
Give him all the advise you want but in the end let him make his own choices!!!!
Good smoke screen for the public Benny!!!
Thanks for the report WP. :thumbsup
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Well WP, he has done nothing, that's it really for me.
As I said WAT not saying it's right or wrong just saying all players have been warned for obvious reasons.
I will leave this to the Club and back what ever decision they make
But I do agree with Benny; Jake needs to make better decisions, perception it's all about perception
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What's he done. Lol
Too much sons of anarchy for u blokes
Get rid of him
Hardly a descent player anymore so no big deal
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Well WP, he has done nothing, that's it really for me.
As I said WAT not saying it's right or wrong just saying all players have been warned for obvious reasons.
I will leave this to the Club and back what ever decision they make
But I do agree with Benny; Jake needs to make better decisions, perception it's all about perception
WP, how would you feel if you knew someone for most of your life and because that person was stereotyped as a result of perception, you could not see them anymore, or your contact with them was controlled by others that really don not have a clue of your relationship with that person.
I can tell you its crap!!
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WP, how would you feel if you knew someone for most of your life and because that person was stereotyped as a result of perception, you could not see them anymore, or your contact with them was controlled by others that really don not have a clue of your relationship with that person.
I can tell you its crap!!
WAT, I understand your point but playing AFL footy is to a degree a privilege and comes with certain expectations and requirements.
Jake King gets paid in comparison to you and me massive $$$. It is bloody good money. Part of the deal though is that you are constantly representing your club even when away from the footy field. I don't think that's asking too much for players to use some common sense or make smart decisions when it comes to what they do away from the club when they are in public. This is a massive business we are talking these days. Clubs and players need to be smart because there is so much at stake
No one is saying that Jake cannot see him but I would think the advice would be just don't do it in public. It's not that bloody hard
If Jake had or the Mitchell family had backyard Xmas BBQs; on the weekend would we know about it? No because it's in the privacy of their own homes. So no one would care. This little catch up was in a public place, Jake should have been smarter, he wasn't this time let's hope he is next time
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Benny Gale on SEN
* Jake King went to the game with a group of friends not Toby Mitchell
* Mitchell was there too, they "bumped" into each other and said "hello" and the photo got takencolor]
* ake has known the Toby Mitchell and the Mitchell family for a very long time, it pre-dates his involvement at the RFC
* Club doesn't enforce rules as to who players can & cannot associate with but does give advice/counsel as to what is acceptable in a public forum
* Club (including Benny himself) has had a number of chats to Jake about his association with Mitchell
* Benny mentioned about associating with those who have criminal/underworld links and how it can be viewed and what it can lead to
* Unlikely to face suspension but will be talking to him again today
* Not disappointed in the HUN story
* But very disappointed in Jake, needs to make better choices, he is a public figure and when he is in public he represents the RFC
Enough said......get off his back!!!
Give him all the advise you want but in the end let him make his own choices!!!!
Good smoke screen for the public Benny!!!
Thanks for the report WP. :thumbsup
Interesting the bits you highlighted WAT
Would think the final one is the most important one IMHO
And BTW will add Benny didn't sound at all happy on the wireless this morning, sound very frustrated and disappointed
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I can see your logic with both of your posts WP and I do agree with the aspect of what is perceived, being involved with a club, how to act at that level etc...
I suppose I just dont like the way it has gone in QLD; totalitarianism is moving in here!! I think the focus on that has overflowed to Melbourne and more so Jake King.
All good.
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Gee Benny Gale spoke well on SEn this morning it shows how Richmond has come of age since he took over. He handles himself very well....
As he said they will talk to king and leave it at that Melbourne is a big place ur always going to bump into people.... no doubt the papers arnt selling so lets make a story out of nothing...
And also Jakie boy grew up in North Heidlberg I can tell you he probably knows people 1000 times worse then Toby...
Good on kingy let ur footy do the talking mate and go and have xmas drink with toby just at home thu hahaha
go u tigers
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I suppose I just dont like the way it has gone in QLD; totalitarianism is moving in here!! I think the focus on that has overflowed to Melbourne and more so Jake King.
I feel for you WAT being in QLD, you have Campbell Newman as premier; sums it up really ;D :thumbsup
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I suppose I just dont like the way it has gone in QLD; totalitarianism is moving in here!! I think the focus on that has overflowed to Melbourne and more so Jake King.
I feel for you WAT being in QLD, you have Campbell Newman as premier; somes it up really ;D :thumbsup
Dead right mate, I am feeling it to. ;)
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fascist redneck Queensland :clapping
mandela would be so proud
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:sleep
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It's going to be one of the lead stories on Ch 7 news tonight at 6pm. They've been advertising it all arvo as "Richmond's Jake King again linked to notorious bikie figures".
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richmond should be fined 2million
shocking image for the game
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Just on
Will say it again, Benny not a happy camper over this
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fascist redneck Queensland :clapping
mandela would be so proud
This just in - Queensland Govt and their constituents to bail out Holden. A first fleet of cars are planned that will drive exclusively in reverse.
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Would be funny when and if they get the anti association laws passed (which i doubt) will they start arresting people like Jake and others when they're photographed :rollin.. Stupid article and he can hang with who he wants.. As long as he plays well who cares..
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fascist redneck Queensland :clapping
mandela would be so proud
This just in - Queensland Govt and their constituents to bail out Holden. A first fleet of cars are planned that will drive exclusively in reverse.
:lol
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Would be funny when and if they get the anti association laws passed (which i doubt) will they start arresting people like Jake and others when they're photographed :rollin.. Stupid article and he can hang with who he wants.. As long as he plays well who cares..
:clapping
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Well WP, he has done nothing, that's it really for me.
As I said WAT not saying it's right or wrong just saying all players have been warned for obvious reasons.
I will leave this to the Club and back what ever decision they make
But I do agree with Benny; Jake needs to make better decisions, perception it's all about perception
WP, how would you feel if you knew someone for most of your life and because that person was stereotyped as a result of perception, you could not see them anymore, or your contact with them was controlled by others that really don not have a clue of your relationship with that person.
I can tell you its crap!!
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Benny Gale on SEN
* Jake King went to the game with a group of friends not Toby Mitchell
* Mitchell was there too, they "bumped" into each other and said "hello" and the photo got takencolor]
* ake has known the Toby Mitchell and the Mitchell family for a very long time, it pre-dates his involvement at the RFC
* Club doesn't enforce rules as to who players can & cannot associate with but does give advice/counsel as to what is acceptable in a public forum
* Club (including Benny himself) has had a number of chats to Jake about his association with Mitchell
* Benny mentioned about associating with those who have criminal/underworld links and how it can be viewed and what it can lead to
* Unlikely to face suspension but will be talking to him again today
* Not disappointed in the HUN story
* But very disappointed in Jake, needs to make better choices, he is a public figure and when he is in public he represents the RFC
Enough said......get off his back!!!
Give him all the advise you want but in the end let him make his own choices!!!!
Good smoke screen for the public Benny!!!
Thanks for the report WP. :thumbsup
Interesting the bits you highlighted WAT
Would think the final one is the most important one IMHO
And BTW will add Benny didn't sound at all happy on the wireless this morning, sound very frustrated and disappointed
Of course he's not happy.
Jake's already been warned.
It's a bad look for the club.
Just dumb.
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why can martin hang out with his limpgoty skateboard tossers and king has to have friendship restrictions
they are sposed to be footballers not Mahatma Gandhis
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Sack him - when he actually breaks a law......until then.....so stuffing what?
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simple ... SACK King ...
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im with wat on this.
we have control of them as players we should not have control of their private lives.
really dont see the problem.
the club has done due diligence and warned all players of the traps that can befall anyone who associates with crims.
jake obviously knows what he is expected to do if a dodgy scenario is offered up.
he most certainly has the right to associate with who ever he likes as long as he himself does not allow that association to lead to him breaking the law.
instead of trying to be the model moral watchdog in all this, and trying desperately to be seen to be doing what the do gooders want, id say the clubs role and stance should be,
yes we have schooled all our players in the dangers of association with crims, but we feel our players are level headed enough to know when to pull out of any association that may land em in trouble. we certainly advocate the right of our players to choose who their friends are and to live their private lives as they themselves see fit, after all its their decision and no one elses.
the moment any one of our players is linked to corruption and proved to have done the wrong thing thru these associations they will be dismissed immediately.
to finish ultimately we all take responsibility for opur own actions. no one has the right to tell another person how they should live their life and who they should see.
its a freakin nanny state all right and at the root of it all is the freakin media.tell to get stuffed and mind their own business.
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Jake King 'defies' Richmond on Mitchell links
Will Brodie
The Age
December 17, 2013
Richmond AFL player Jake King has defied club orders to end his association with former Bandidos boss Toby Mitchell.
The Tigers could have hit the 29-year-old King with fines or suspensions, only months after ordering him to cut ties with Mitchell.
But President Brendon Gale told SEN radio on Monday morning that the imposition of such heavy penalties was unlikely.
Gale said he was "disappointed" in King for being linked to Mitchell, but his club did not enforce "hard and fast rules" about which people its players could associate with, instead offering "advice and guidance". He described the current situation as an "instructive opportunity"
"We expect them as adults to make their own decisions...
"We would expect Jake to make better decisions...
"It has been brought to his attention... that he should think long and hard about those sorts of friendships..." Gale said.
He said he would be talking to the defensive forward later today.
News Corp has on Monday run a front-page photo of King and Toby Mitchell watching lingerie-clad women play American football at AAMI Park on Saturday.
Gale said King had attended the game with a large group of friends and "bumped into" Mitchell at the event. He emphasised that King's involvement with Mitchell pre-dated his time at Richmond.
Following the Tigers' round-20 win over Brisbane at the MCG, Mitchell had been invited into the Richmond rooms by King, prompting the club to tell the player his association with the former bikie enforcer was unacceptable.
Richmond went on to warn their whole playing list not to associate with criminals in any way.
The Australian Crime Commission had warned athletes who associated with criminals that they put themselves in danger of corruption. Gale said players had been warned that, as public figures, they had to be particularly mindful of their behaviour after the release of the Commission's report.
"The contents talk about the connection between criminal identities and organised crime between human growth hormones... match-fixing, corruption, there’s that risk," he said.
"Our players, like all players, have got to be very mindful of associating with those with a criminal past."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jake-king-defies-richmond-on-mitchell-links-20131216-2zfsx.html
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Jake King 'defies' Richmond on Mitchell links
Will Brodie
The Age
December 17, 2013
Richmond AFL player Jake King has defied club orders to end his association with former Bandidos boss Toby Mitchell.
The Tigers could have hit the 29-year-old King with fines or suspensions, only months after ordering him to cut ties with Mitchell.
But President Brendon Gale told SEN radio on Monday morning that the imposition of such heavy penalties was unlikely.
Gale said he was "disappointed" in King for being linked to Mitchell, but his club did not enforce "hard and fast rules" about which people its players could associate with, instead offering "advice and guidance". He described the current situation as an "instructive opportunity"
"We expect them as adults to make their own decisions...
"We would expect Jake to make better decisions...
"It has been brought to his attention... that he should think long and hard about those sorts of friendships..." Gale said.
He said he would be talking to the defensive forward later today.
News Corp has on Monday run a front-page photo of King and Toby Mitchell watching lingerie-clad women play American football at AAMI Park on Saturday.
Gale said King had attended the game with a large group of friends and "bumped into" Mitchell at the event. He emphasised that King's involvement with Mitchell pre-dated his time at Richmond.
Following the Tigers' round-20 win over Brisbane at the MCG, Mitchell had been invited into the Richmond rooms by King, prompting the club to tell the player his association with the former bikie enforcer was unacceptable.
Richmond went on to warn their whole playing list not to associate with criminals in any way.
The Australian Crime Commission had warned athletes who associated with criminals that they put themselves in danger of corruption. Gale said players had been warned that, as public figures, they had to be particularly mindful of their behaviour after the release of the Commission's report.
"The contents talk about the connection between criminal identities and organised crime between human growth hormones... match-fixing, corruption, there’s that risk," he said.
"Our players, like all players, have got to be very mindful of associating with those with a criminal past."
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jake-king-defies-richmond-on-mitchell-links-20131216-2zfsx.html
LIES above!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"* Club doesn't enforce rules as to who players can & cannot associate with but does give advice/counsel as to what is acceptable in a public forum"
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i would say there are just as many, if not more, corrupt government employed people such as police, MP's etc that they should not associate with.
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Jacko on twitter:
@DanJackson23 - "Dear media, please don't get me in trouble for hanging out with Jake. I know he is a bad man, he made…"
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http://instagram.com/p/h-XM30lDf7/#
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The entire episode is embarrassing for everyone involve including the journalists but excluding Benny. Cringe material stuff.
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Who controls the prescription medication in your house Tiga??? :lol :thumbsup
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Who controls the prescription medication in your house Tiga??? :lol :thumbsup
Nobody....Thats the problem! ;D
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What's Mitchell been convicted of ::)
what aint he been convicted of :rollin l don't have enough time to write it all down but he has been shot several times lol
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media beat up that's all this topic is. Club don't give a toss as long as people are pouring money into the coffers :santa
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Yep. Technically the crap can hit the fan as long as the sponsors are not affected. Eg Our current Major sponsors are Bingle & Jeep, followed by Lite n easy. If one of our players has a car accident in anything other than a Jeep life is good. But if one of our players has a smash in an uninsured Jeep because their Weight watchers Microwave meal spilled onto their lap, eh not so good.
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The club shouldn't be worried about the players associating with bikers.
It's the quiet chemistry teacher types the club has to really be worried about, guys like '65. :whistle
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Yes Mr T, not the point about 65 but the overall point. I would rather leave my kids with bikies than some other scum I have seen! :)
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:lol
"bikies" is a pretty broad statement, but if you are refering to those members of large organised gangs, well how do do you detrmine the lesser of scum?
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:lol
"bikies" is a pretty broad statement, but if you are refering to those members of large organised gangs, well how do do you detrmine the lesser of scum?
Organised crime, God, the uneducated brainwashed minority.... :clapping
Scum.....what a pathetic imbecilic comment al.
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Hang on Al, I'm just popping some pop corn.
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:lol
"bikies" is a pretty broad statement, but if you are refering to those members of large organised gangs, well how do do you detrmine the lesser of scum?
Organised crime, God, the uneducated brainwashed minority.... :clapping
Scum.....what a pathetic imbecilic comment al.
i take it that you are either involved or simply naive?
strange, you used the term scum, but.......
in fact the way you worded it, it could be read you were saying bikies were scum yourself :whistle
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:lol
"bikies" is a pretty broad statement, but if you are refering to those members of large organised gangs, well how do do you detrmine the lesser of scum?
Organised crime, God, the uneducated brainwashed minority.... :clapping
Scum.....what a pathetic imbecilic comment al.
i take it that you are either involved or simply naive?
strange, you used the term scum, but.......
in fact the way you worded it, it could be read you were saying bikies were scum yourself :whistle
I am not naive....
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7 news reporting King was seen with a bikie again.... :sleep
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Slow news day
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7 news reporting King was seen with a bikie again.... :sleep
Yep showed footage of them hugging and then chatting
Said his career is hanging by thread
And the club is very very angry
Said club is under pressure to sanction him this time
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7 news reporting King was seen with a bikie again.... :sleep
Yep showed footage of them hugging and then chatting
Said his career is hanging by thread
And the club is very very angry
Said club is under pressure to sanction him this time
:sleep
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they should sanction brendon gale for hanging out with
an organised crime boss fat andy
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Kingy, Kingy, Kingy!!!!!!
:banghead
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So what's the crime? - channel 7 = tree jumpers
There wouldn't be a story if RFC didn't make it a story in the first place
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From the Hun....
"RICHMOND forward Jake King continues to jeopardise his AFL career by associating with underworld figure Toby Mitchell.
The Tigers' veteran was caught socialising with the former Bandidos boss for a third time in six months.
King, 29, was seen meeting Mitchell in Docklands.
Richmond was assessing the situation on Thursday night.
King invited Mitchell into the Richmond change rooms post-game in August last year and the pair was again seen together watching a women's lingerie American football game in December.
Richmond has counselled King specifically about the issue, with chief executive Brendon Gale urging the 105-gamer to make "better decisions" after his last meeting with Mitchell.
"It has been brought to his attention... that he should think long and hard about those sorts of friendships..." Gale said.
Richmond and league heavyweights have taken a dim view of the friendship.
The latest meeting could prompt the club to part ways with King when his contract expires at season's end, regardless of his on-field form."
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FFS.....here we go again.... :sleep :sleep :sleep
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I absolutely love Kingy..but the RFC main responsibility is to look after the interests of the RFC and the brand,so any decision the club make will have that foremost in its mind and rightly so
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Why not have a coffee at somebody's place
Surely he would know that public would see them
Mmmmmmm
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I agree jack ,not the wisest of moves by push up...but still love the way he goes about his footy
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WGAF
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WGAF
x2
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Hun run a recycled ASADA/Essendope story that no-one gives a poo about, so they hide in a bin and catch Kingy chatting to a bikie. It must be killing them that Dusty seems to be behaving. Richmond sells papers!
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Nothing in it, sacking someone for consorting with a free man would be dragged before the human rights commission quicker than a rancer dash from hb....move on nothing to see :shh
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Good to see logic being spoken on this issue... :clapping :thumbsup
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I see them chatting on the street, that's all. Big deal.
At least he's not in uniform. Most people probably wouldn't recognise him in regular clothes. Don't see any RFC-image-jeopardising here...
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Ok I confess.. I took the photo and sent it in to 7
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this is the Herald scum making out all bikies are bad.. Its subtly convincing the public that to associate with MC's is an offence. Its crap and we shouldnt stand for it..
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Well when I hear the term 'bikie' I think of the gangsters and criminals.
I don't associate legitimate motorcycle enthusiasts with that term.
This dude is a bikie isn't he? That's the problem.
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Well when I hear the term 'bikie' I think of the gangsters and criminals.
I don't associate legitimate motorcycle enthusiasts with that term.
This dude is a bikie isn't he? That's the problem.
Well he (Mitchell) was shot due to his connections ;D
Anyway.....
Going by and listening to Benny Gale's interview the last time this happened the Club was disappointed and not happy. So the Club IMHO has a right to be peeved this time.
Said it before, will say it again in this multi million dollar business that is AFL footy it's simply not a good look
Not saying it's right not saying it's wrong, it's just the way it is these days.
Perception it's all about perception
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Well when I hear the term 'bikie' I think of the gangsters and criminals.
I don't associate legitimate motorcycle enthusiasts with that term.
This dude is a bikie isn't he? That's the problem.
Well he (Mitchell) was shot due to his connections ;D
Anyway.....
Going by and listening to Benny Gale's interview the last time this happened the Club was disappointed and not happy. So the Club IMHO has a right to be peeved this time.
Said it before, will say it again in this multi million dollar business that is AFL footy it's simply not a good look
Not saying it's right not saying it's wrong, it's just the way it is these days.
Perception it's all about perception
Stop being such a goody goody
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This is a joke. Fair dinkum, he can associate with whoever he chooses as long as they arent partaking in any criminal or illegal activity for mine.
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KB has defended Jake on his SEN program this morning.
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"'Jake King is not a criminal" : KB
....Tigers great Kevin Bartlett has jumped to King's defence.
"Richmond has every right to lay down the law on who frequents the club ... but in his private life Jake King can be friends with whoever he wants," Bartlett said on his SEN radio show.
"By associating with underworld figures doesn't mean that King is a criminal ... he says they are long-standing family friends, and that has never been disputed.
"As long as King operates within the guidelines of the club, and keeps himself out of trouble and makes no attempt to influence teammates into his circle of friends, he should be able to go about his life without scrutiny." ....
Full article at:
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-forward-jake-king-again-caught-socialising-with-exbandidos-boss-toby-mitchell/story-fndv8t7m-1226808959844
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"Im KB and
that's my take an old git."
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Well when I hear the term 'bikie' I think of the gangsters and criminals.
I don't associate legitimate motorcycle enthusiasts with that term.
This dude is a bikie isn't he? That's the problem.
So does that mean when I hear the term "misinformed" or "naive" I would think of you? Or would I just be stereotyping???
The problem is the misconception created by media hysteria and public opinion by people and governments that don't have a clue.
There are worse rapists, pedophiles, drug addicts and con artists then there are corrupt "bikies".
Yes there are some bad and corrupt bikes but they are in the minority of clubs, the majority don't even have criminal records.
Jake King and Toby Mitchell are doing nothing at all that constitutes breaking the law.... Oh hang on.... We don't have a constitution anymore!!!!
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Unfortunately, WAT; Mr Mitchell is one of the minority and isn't a nice person, fair to say he is one of the "bad" ones
Would think getting shot as result of the bikies wars down here sort of highlights it ;D
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Unfortunately, WAT; Mr Mitchell is one of the minority and isn't a nice person, fair to say he is one of the "bad" ones
Would think getting shot as result of the bikies wars down here sort of highlights it ;D
Yes true WP, I agree he is one of the bad ones, well he was.
Not sure he even has a record does he?
Aside from that as I have said before, the King and Mitchell families have been friends long before any of the association rubbish came into play or before he went bad.
Anyway, let's hope common sense prevails by all parties concerned.
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Unfortunately, WAT; Mr Mitchell is one of the minority and isn't a nice person, fair to say he is one of the "bad" ones
Would think getting shot as result of the bikies wars down here sort of highlights it ;D
How would you know ?? I for one think he's a lovely bloke. Don't judge a book by its cover
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How do you know he's a lovely bloke? Get him on the forum with Jake for an interview perhaps? Might dispel a few myths...........about you
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Jake King free to make his own decisions: Tigers
By Jon Pierik
The Age
Jan. 28, 2014, 6:56 p.m.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale has declared he would prefer Jake King does not mix with an outlaw bikie boss but admits it's a decision only King can make.
King was captured on camera last week chatting with former Bandidos biker club sergeant-at-arms Toby Mitchell at Docklands. The pair had also been watching a women's lingerie American football game at AAMI Park in December.
The Tigers have not given their small forward an official warning as he has recently met with Mitchell outside of his time at the club.
"We never issued a warning to Jake about who he can mix with and who he can't. We haven't issued any bans. That's away from the work place, his duty as a footballer," Gale said on 3AW on Tuesday.
"I have been very open with Jake. I would prefer he wouldn't mix with these types of people, particularly in light of the (Australian) Crime Commission report and incidents last year of organised crime.
"They are Jake's choices. I respect that and, as I have said, he has to own them."
Their friendship became public when King invited Mitchell into the Richmond rooms following the Tigers' win over the Brisbane Lions in round 20 at the MCG last season. The Tigers were unimpressed.
"Jake had an incident last year where he bought someone to the rooms in Toby Mitchell. We prefer he would not come to our rooms and (it) was made very clear to him that will not happen again," Gale said.
"We have a duty to provide a safe work place for all of our staff and stakeholders.
"But, so far as who Jakes mixes with in his own time and his own private capacity, that's up to him and that's the choices he makes provided he acts in a lawful way, doesn't involve other players.
"We are very proud of Jake, from where he has come from, to where he is today but at the end of the day they are choices he has to make and he has to live with."
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2051685/jake-king-free-to-make-his-own-decisions-tigers/?cs=12
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Finally, common sense prevails.... :clapping
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Richmond concedes it cannot stop Jake King associating with Bandios figure Toby Mitchell
Jon Ralph
From: Herald Sun
January 29, 2014
RICHMOND has conceded it cannot stop Jake King associating with bikes despite continuing angst over the forward's links with Bandidos figure Toby Mitchell.
King has been seen in public with Mitchell twice since the Herald Sun revealed last year he had been counselled against bringing the former bikie enforcer into Richmond's change rooms.
But Tigers chief executive Brendon Gale said last night the club would not ban him from continued meetings with former Bandidos sergeant-at-arms Mitchell.
And the AFL has no plans to step in, saying yesterday the Mitchell-King friendship was a matter for Richmond.
The notorious Mitchell has twice survived attempts on his life. He was shot in March last year and also five times outside a Brunswick gym in 2011.
Gale said yesterday he would prefer King did not meet with Mitchell.
"I have been open with Jake," Gale said.
"I would prefer he wouldn't meet with these people in light of the (Australian Crime Commission) report and Essendon last year, but they are Jake's choices, and he has got to own them.
"There is a real community concern about organised crime and the involvement of bikie gangs and I can understand that, but we have never issued a warning to Jake about who he can mix with and who he can't mix with.
"We haven't issued any bans. Jake brought Toby Mitchell into the rooms and it was made clear to him it will never happen again. We have a duty to provide a safe workplace but in terms of who he mixes with in his own capacity, that's up to him."
King and Mitchell have been long-term friends, with the bikie encouraging the Richmond forward to follow his dream to play AFL.
But the Tigers cannot warn Mitchell off, and are aware of King's rights as a player.
"We have legal duties as an employer and we can have whatever rules we think are reasonable (within the club). (But) it is a clear distinction (outside the club),'' Gale told 3AW.
An AFL spokesman told the Herald Sun the league supported Richmond's position.
"As Richmond has said, (Mitchell) can't have any role around the club and cannot be on club premises, and they can give (King) advice on what he does, but ultimately what he does (in this situation) is up to him."
The ACC's report into Australian sport in February last year specifically warned about links between organised crime and sport.
"Overseas experience has demonstrated that criminal identities and groups will invest years developing such relationships, with the ultimate aim of having the athlete participate in activities such as match-fixing,'' it stated.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-concedes-it-cannot-stop-jake-king-associating-with-bandios-figure-toby-mitchell/story-fndv8t7m-1226812378952
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Sensible approach by Gale.
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Conceded
Ralph is a flog. Hope he does a polak and headbutts a tram
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Dan Richardson was on SEN this morning and said the same thing as Benny Gale did. And that is outside of the Club they cannot stop Jake from seeing whoever he likes. They can counsel and advise but cannot enforce any ban outside of the club
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Conceded
Ralph is a flog. Hope he does a polak and headbutts a tram
Agree, i'm listening to him now on SEN. Absolute moron.
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Will cry like a take victim when infraction notice s are handed out
Makes Sen unbearable
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Conceded
Ralph is a flog. Hope he does a polak and headbutts a tram
Agree, i'm listening to him now on SEN. Absolute moron.
Sure is.
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Teammate Daniel Jackson yesterday said he understood some of the disapproval, but was adamant King should be able to socialise with Mitchell outside the club.
Jackson said it would only become a worry for the club if King went outside the law.
"I think it is unreasonable for any workplace to say who their employees can and can't hang out with and the footy club's come out and said they have got no issue," Jackson said on 3AW yesterday.
"But of course there is a line there. Are you hanging out and socialising? That's fine.
"If you are engaging in any kind of activity that's going to be illegal or bring the club into disrepute then of course they can come in and say no.
"So there are boundaries which have been put in place.
"Toby is not allowed to be brought into the rooms but he can go and socialise with whoever he wants."
Jackson said people needed to respect the fact that King and Mitchell have been long-time friends.
"He (King) has known him (Mitchell) before he has played football," he said.
"It's a tough one and I can understand why people get riled about it.
"If he has got friends that he has grown up with you can't ask them to be disloyal to them."
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-forward-jake-king-in-line-for-contract-extension/story-fndv8t7m-1226814267683
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Big tick for Richmond over Jake King's bikie friend Toby Mitchell
Martin Flanagan
The Age
February 1, 2014
King and Richmond fans know parameters.
Jake King has given Richmond a lot. The Tigers have character and he's one of the reasons why.
Chest out, eyes ablaze, he patrols the forward line like a small armoured vehicle. He's fearless and he burns with a deep passion. He's a little man who makes bigger men think twice. Looking down from footy Valhalla, I have no doubt Richmond legend Jack Dyer would approve of the way Jake King plays the game
He's got skills, too. Last year, I thought he kicked a number of goals that in previous seasons he would have missed because of their degree of difficulty. Indeed, last season he produced a fine edge to his play and that is something else about him as a player - he's getting better. In 2013, he went from being a player who made up the numbers to one who was central to the chemistry of a winning Richmond team. If you were a Tiger fan or a club administrator, you wouldn't want to lose him.
King has refused to sever his association with former notorious Bandidos motorbike club member Toby Mitchell. Having some knowledge of how King is regarded by his teammates and by others within the Richmond club, my impression is that the player strongly believes he's doing nothing wrong. Indeed, I imagine that, by King's code, the wrong thing to do would be to walk away from a friend just because he's a media target.
As one of King's teammates once remarked of him, "He doesn't take a lot of things as seriously as other people - but when he does, he takes them more seriously than other people do." In the dying stages of Terry Wallace's tenure as coach of Richmond, with the soap opera being played daily in the media as if little else in the world mattered, King was seriously upset by a story which alleged - incorrectly - that he had fronted Wallace along with captain Chris Newman and requested Wallace resign. I'd say Jake King has strong doubts about the media.
He may believe the bad publicity about outlaw bikie groups is a beat-up by the media and certain politicians. But there is a lot of evidence to the contrary. Richmond CEO Brendon Gale said this week that he had discussed with King the contents of the Australian Crime Commission report which sounded the alarm about links between organised crime, bikie gangs and professional sport.
Richmond and King have clearly come to an agreement. They're not going to tell him who he can socialise with, but he has been warned. Gale was quoted in this newspaper as saying, "So far as who Jake mixes with in his own time and his own private capacity, that's up to him and that's the choices he makes provided he acts in a lawful way, and doesn't involve other players."
Referring to the incident last year, when King took Toby Mitchell into the Richmond rooms, Gale said, "We prefer he would not come to our rooms and [it] was made very clear to him that will not happen again. We have a duty to provide a safe workplace for all of our staff and stakeholders." The last sentence is an oblique reference to the fact that Mitchell has survived two murder attempts.
Having an AFL player being seen in public with a figure like Mitchell is not a good "look" for the club, or the AFL. Nonetheless, I believe Brendon Gale's statement is an example of sound footy management. Signing up for a career in the AFL is not the same as entering North Korea. You don't forfeit all rights and liberties.
Last year, Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon asked a pertinent question: ''What is my right to play moral policeman about what they [AFL players] do, in the sanctuary of their home, in the off-season? There is no moral right." As he pointed out, the only right which exists - he was speaking in relation to the AFL's drug policy - is the contractual one arising from the AFL player contract. He also admitted that the impetus for the AFL and its clubs to control their players' private lives to this extent came from the need to keep sponsors happy.
The threat posed by outlaw bikie gangs to Australia is a much more serious matter than a few players' activities in their downtime. Jake King has made a stand but each time he is seen with Mitchell the issue will flare. As for Richmond supporters, they've been warned too. Here, in clear and simple language, are the terms upon which one of their favourite players stays at the club.
Football clubs are not an extension of polite society, however much they are pressured to become so. They take young men from all manner of social backgrounds - as they should. To do otherwise further reduces an already diminishing talent pool. It also detracts from the claim of the game to be truly and wholly Australian.
Privileged people often forget how privileged they are and if AFL clubs take young men from all backgrounds, then it follows that there is inevitably going to be trouble now and then. When that happens, it is best dealt with, as in this case, in a calm and sober manner.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/big-tick-for-richmond-over-jake-kings-bikie-friend-toby-mitchell-20140131-31sjn.html
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Must still be the off season.
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How many inches of newspaper have been filled with this crap
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At least this was well written and not out for a quick headline grab
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Id much rather king filling column space than Duzzy
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Demetriou gives Tigers a King hit
Scott Spits
The Age
February 20, 2014 - 6:54PM
AFL boss Andrew Demetriou is at odds with Richmond over the issue of Jake King's links with former Bandidos biker club sergeant-at-arms Toby Mitchell.
The league supremo is firmly of the view that AFL clubs should have a greater say on who their players associate with, especially in the case of the pacy Tiger.
King was captured on camera in late January chatting with Mitchell at Docklands. The pair had also been watching a women's lingerie American football game at AAMI Park in December.
"My counsel to Richmond would be, 'I think you do have a role' in saying to your players who should and who you shouldn't associate with," Demetriou told Chanel Seven News.
"I think Jake King should seriously consider who he associates with and not put at risk the reputation of his club or putting himself in a vulnerable position.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale has previously declared he would prefer King does not mix with an outlaw bikie boss, but admits it's a decision only the player can make.
"We never issued a warning to Jake about who he can mix with and who he can't. We haven't issued any bans. That's away from the work place, his duty as a footballer," Gale has told 3AW.
Demetriou reiterated his view that outsiders with ulterior motives were attempting to infiltrate the AFL, putting the integrity of the game at risk.
"It's a serious issue because we know – we have intelligence – that people are trying to infiltrate the game, and some of them are not nice people ... whether it's to do with information sharing, gambling, illicit durgs, performance enhancing drugs.
"That is a fact."
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/demetriou-gives-tigers-a-king-hit-20140220-3345p.html#ixzz2trDklhHr
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"It's a serious issue because we know – we have intelligence – that people are trying to infiltrate the game, and some of them are not nice people ... whether it's to do with information sharing, gambling, illicit durgs, performance enhancing drugs."
That's the problem Demetriou, you have none at all, MYOB and move on.
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How can this prick be taken seriously after revealing his insipidity during the handling of the Essendon drug issue ?
He's a joke.
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I can not believe this. When can you be told who not to associate with? I've seen the boss naked in a vfl video but that's ok.
And he lies which for me destroys any credibility. I would not work in an environmont that controlled me so. cold war Russia sort of stuff
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How can this prick be taken seriously after revealing his insipidity during the handling of the Essendon drug issue ?
He's a joke.
Damn right, he said jack poo nearly the entire time regarding the Bomber fiasco but he wants to come and and make these outlandish statements for a non event...really.
He is on the way out, Just like the imbecilic Newman Government!
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stuffing joke
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i have often questioned why the administrators don't subject themselves to the same testing regimes as the players for recreational drugs, but really, it is self evident.
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"That is a fact."
Is it really a fact though? Facts are usually based on information and evidence. If it is a fact why has this fat turd not done anything about it?
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Two separate issues.
Hird and friends bought the game into disrepute and the dimetreou did virtually nothing about it.
King and friends have done nothing but are copping it, for some reason on the back of the Hird issue.
#hitlerlogic
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Reported in the Herald-Sun as well ...
AFL boss Andrew Demetriou says Richmond’s Jake King should dump bikie mate Toby Mitchell
Mark Robinson
From: Herald Sun
February 21, 2014
AFL boss Andrew Demetriou says Jake King’s continued association with bikie figure Toby Mitchell “defies belief” and the Tigers forward should reconsider the friendship for his and his club’s sake.
Demetriou told the Herald Sun that Richmond chiefs would be justifiably frustrated that King had refused repeated requests to drop links and the club would tire of his stance.
King and Mitchell have been seen together publicly twice since King brought the former Bandidos enforcer into the Richmond rooms at the MCG last August.
The Tigers then banned Mitchell from club events and asked King not to associate with him, but stopped short of demanding their meetings cease.
Asked if the AFL could say who players could spend time with, Demetriou said: “The short answer is yes.
“I’ve spoken to (Richmond CEO) Brendon Gale. I said to him I didn’t share his view that as a club you couldn’t tell a player who he should or shouldn’t associate with,” Demetriou said.
“We’ve spent 12 months talking about people who seek to infiltrate the game for a number of things.
“I’m not suggesting for a minute it’s this case, but I’m talking about match-fixing, information sharing, performance enhancing drugs, illicit drugs — these are serious issues so we’ve got to do everything we can to protect it.’’
Richmond last night indicated it would not be toughening its stance on King.
“After considering all the facts we remain comfortable with the position we have taken,” Gale said.
The AFL last year briefed clubs about dangers confronting the sport outlined in the Australian Crime Commission’s explosive Project Aperio report released 12 months ago.
“We know from the Crime Commission, we know from the Victoria Police and others, that there are people seeking to infiltrate our sport,’’ Demetriou said.
“We also know that some people prey on the vulnerability of our players and this came through very clear from Victoria Police and we briefed the clubs about this.
“So why someone would want to not just put them themselves in that position, but also their club in that position, defies belief for me.
“I think (Richmond) need to stress to Jake King that. ‘We’ve got a good culture at this club, we’re going places’, and they don’t need this distraction.
“And if he wants to be part of the club and share in the values of the club and be part of the values, is this something that important that it would jeopardise what this club is trying to do.”
The Herald Sun reported last month that King’s contract contained a trigger for 2015 if he played 12 games this season.
Demetriou said King needed to reassess his friendship with Mitchell, who has survived two shooting attempts on his life.
“In my view, Brendon Gale and the Richmond Football Club should counsel Jake King (that) he should seriously think about who he associates with.
“Not just pertaining to this issue, but clubs are really important entities and if you are asking someone in your employment and they are constantly saying no to you, the club at some point in time will get tired of that.
“The same would be in my organisation. If I was asking one of my executives to stop doing something, and they kept saying no to me, you’d get a little bit tired of it.”
Demetriou said he hoped King’s contract was not terminated.
“I hope common sense prevails. He’s a good player Jake King, he’s popular, he’s a good asset for Richmond and he’s got more football in him.”
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-boss-andrew-demetriou-says-richmonds-jake-king-should-dump-bikie-mate-toby-mitchell/story-fndv8t7m-1226833176389
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Just refresh my memory which laws he has broken.
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Just refresh my memory which laws he has broken.
Who Jake, Toby or Both?
;D
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Jake of course ;D
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Demetriou's comments are plainly wrong. The AFL does not have the power to determine who a player associates with. It seems to me by making such comments that he is not only extremely arrogant but power hungry.
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Jake of course ;D
Just checking because Toby was supposed to face the County Court this month for some case that was adjourned last Sept/Oct ;D
Demetriou's comments are plainly wrong. The AFL does not have the power to determine who a player associates with. It seems to me by making such comments that he is not only extremely arrogant but power hungry.
Understand your point but I think that maybe they do have power? Look at Ben Cousins - they de-registered him for 12 months not because he failed any drug tests or anything but simply because they did have the power to do it. They couldn't prove anything but clearly didn't like what he was doing, who he was associating with so they flicked him out of the game for 12 months
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This is a difficult situation and by no means clear cut.
Let's suppose Demetriou's right hand man was having meetings with bikie gang chiefs. Vlad could ask him to stop as it looks bad for the afl. If he didn't, we could all understand why his position may be terminated. None of us here would probably disagree with the decision......
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There was some pretty damning comments from Kochie this morning on sunrise..
Anyone have the audio or transcript? I only heard what they replayed on SEN but clearly its a slow news day :shh
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and in the meantime Marley Williams is found guilty of grievous bodily harm, but lets focus on the story that will 'trend' :clapping
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-20/williams-guilty-of-grievous-bodily-harm/5273800 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-20/williams-guilty-of-grievous-bodily-harm/5273800)
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There was some pretty damning comments from Kochie this morning on sunrise..
Anyone have the audio or transcript? I only heard what they replayed on SEN but clearly its a slow news day :shh
Like you I only heard what they replayed on SEN but Kochie certainly went WHACK ;D
Have to say it's always a bit of worry when you have Andy Maher in your corner and he is backing Jake big time ...is that a good thing? ;D
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Easy for Koch to be a tough guy in hypothetical situations.
Hope for him there are no skeletons in the Port closet. Would love to see what happens if Wingard's best mate ends up in court for something.
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and in the meantime Marley Williams is found guilty of grievous bodily harm, but lets focus on the story that will 'trend' :clapping
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-20/williams-guilty-of-grievous-bodily-harm/5273800 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-20/williams-guilty-of-grievous-bodily-harm/5273800)
Collingwood don't sell papers.
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Kingy needs to find some new friends until his career ends in a year or two. Then he can do as he pleases.
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Koch has been around for 5 minutes and already firing from the hip safely up in Sydney. Chrome dome has nfi.
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Kingy needs to find some new friends until his career ends in a year or two. Then he can do as he pleases.
Crap!!
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Crap!!
Well thought out , eloquent and intelligent response as I'd expect from you.
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Crap!!
Well thought out , eloquent and intelligent response as I'd expect from you.
I have said what I wanted to say regarding this issue, then a pelican like you pops up with a pathetic comment like this "Kingy needs to find some new friends until his career ends in a year or two. Then he can do as he pleases."
Really, are you serious?? How would you feel if you were told you couldn't see a member of your family, life long friend or your spouse (male or female, who knows with you) because of some rubbish opinion from someone that does not have a clue about you or your friend???
Perhaps the original "Well thought out , eloquent and intelligent response" from you wasn't that smart. :wallywink
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Crap!!
Well thought out , eloquent and intelligent response as I'd expect from you.
I have said what I wanted to say regarding this issue, then a pelican like you pops up with a pathetic comment like this "Kingy needs to find some new friends until his career ends in a year or two. Then he can do as he pleases."
Really, are you serious?? How would you feel if you were told you couldn't see a member of your family, life long friend or your spouse (male or female, who knows with you) because of some rubbish opinion from someone that does not have a clue about you or your friend???
Perhaps the original "Well thought out , eloquent and intelligent response" from you wasn't that smart. :wallywink
You just don't get it at all do you ?
I know they're a tad slow out west but it aint that hard is it ?
The guy is a scumbag of the highest order. Everyone knows what he's about. It's undisputable and if I was a pro sportsman and , as you put it , one of my family or 'friends' was a dealing , firearms branding , corrupt to the teeth biker. I wouldn't be hanging around with that person ever.
Now , what happens if there turns out to be any truth in the rumours that the likes of that lowlife are trying to infiltrate the AFL to fix games for betting purposes as is being reported here atm ? Which club is gonna cop instant scrutiny. Yep , that's the one.... RICHMOND.
Kingy is probably in his last year anyhow. Would it really hurt to put the friendship on hold for the sake of the club for 12 months ?
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Crap!!
Well thought out , eloquent and intelligent response as I'd expect from you.
I have said what I wanted to say regarding this issue, then a pelican like you pops up with a pathetic comment like this "Kingy needs to find some new friends until his career ends in a year or two. Then he can do as he pleases."
Really, are you serious?? How would you feel if you were told you couldn't see a member of your family, life long friend or your spouse (male or female, who knows with you) because of some rubbish opinion from someone that does not have a clue about you or your friend???
Perhaps the original "Well thought out , eloquent and intelligent response" from you wasn't that smart. :wallywink
You just don't get it at all do you ?
I know they're a tad slow out west but it aint that hard is it ?
The guy is a scumbag of the highest order. Everyone knows what he's about. It's undisputable and if I was a pro sportsman and , as you put it , one of my family or 'friends' was a dealing , firearms branding , corrupt to the teeth biker. I wouldn't be hanging around with that person ever.
Now , what happens if there turns out to be any truth in the rumours that the likes of that lowlife are trying to infiltrate the AFL to fix games for betting purposes as is being reported here atm ? Which club is gonna cop instant scrutiny. Yep , that's the one.... RICHMOND.
Kingy is probably in his last year anyhow. Would it really hurt to put the friendship on hold for the sake of the club for 12 months ?
Oh I get it more than you realise..
You mustn't get it because I have said about a million times I don't live in the West..fool!!
Wow, you know him personally, sorry I didn't realise that. I will have to ask "everyone" about him as well, apparently they all know him too.. :whistle!!!
Your have no idea!!
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I have said what I wanted to say regarding this issue, then a pelican like you pops up with a pathetic comment like this "Kingy needs to find some new friends until his career ends in a year or two. Then he can do as he pleases."
Really, are you serious?? How would you feel if you were told you couldn't see a member of your family, life long friend or your spouse (male or female, who knows with you) because of some rubbish opinion from someone that does not have a clue about you or your friend???
Perhaps the original "Well thought out , eloquent and intelligent response" from you wasn't that smart. :wallywink
Andy D was asked a question, to give his opinion and he gave it. As Dermie said this morning on SEN, Andy D's response is exactly what you'd expect it be from the CEO of the Comp who's main objective is its brand and protecting it. Dermie also said that because it's an opinion then it isn't wrong as such but folks don't have to agree with it.
Facts are and they cannot be disputed are that Toby Mitchell is (possibly was) a member of bikie gang that has been raided god knows how many times by the cops (quite rightly), a gang that has a massive wrap sheet for illegal activities including drugs & firearm offences to name but a few. This gang isn't simply about people going for group rides on the weekends. Dermie summed it well when he said this morning that we are indeed talking about a gang that "thumbs it nose at the laws of society". That's part of the issue here; rightly or wrongly. This "gang" is not nice and way shape or form
As an individual Mitchell has priors, has been shot twice, currently has a court case pending and was the head honcho of said bike gang (can't remember exactly the title he had). Again it isn't a good look, granted he has done his time but the mud sticks
Whether people like it or not and I've said this before it isn't a good look for Jake to been seen in PUBLIC with this bloke. I understand the point about them being a long time family friends but that doesn't change the fact that some people see it as a bad idea.
We all have an opinion on this and I wonder if people's opinions would change if it wasn't Jake King or a RFC player we were talking about but it was a player from another club
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I have said what I wanted to say regarding this issue, then a pelican like you pops up with a pathetic comment like this "Kingy needs to find some new friends until his career ends in a year or two. Then he can do as he pleases."
Really, are you serious?? How would you feel if you were told you couldn't see a member of your family, life long friend or your spouse (male or female, who knows with you) because of some rubbish opinion from someone that does not have a clue about you or your friend???
Perhaps the original "Well thought out , eloquent and intelligent response" from you wasn't that smart. :wallywink
Andy D was asked a question, to give his opinion and he gave it. As Dermie said this morning on SEN, Andy D's response is exactly what you'd expect it be from the CEO of the Comp who's main objective is its brand and protecting it. Dermie also said that because it's an opinion then it isn't wrong as such but folks don't have to agree with it.
Facts are and they cannot be disputed are that Toby Mitchell is (possibly was) a member of bikie gang that has been raided god knows how many times by the cops (quite rightly), a gang that has a massive wrap sheet for illegal activities including drugs & firearm offences to name but a few. This gang isn't simply about people going for group rides on the weekends. Dermie summed it well when he said this morning that we are indeed talking about a gang that "thumbs it nose at the laws of society". That's part of the issue here; rightly or wrongly. This "gang" is not nice and way shape or form
As an individual Mitchell has priors, has been shot twice, currently has a court case pending and was the head honcho of said bike gang (can't remember exactly the title he had). Again it isn't a good look, granted he has done his time but the mud sticks
Whether people like it or not and I've said this before it isn't a good look for Jake to been seen in PUBLIC with this bloke. I understand the point about them being a long time family friends but that doesn't change the fact that some people see it as a bad idea.
We all have an opinion on this and I wonder if people's opinions would change if it wasn't Jake King or a RFC player we were talking about but it was a player from another club
Pity Andy D couldn't make comments on the bigger issues in the AFL such as the Bombers fiasco...
I couldn't care which club the player was/is from, its the principle of the matter. Regardless of what Mitchell has done in the past it has not impacted on King, the AFL or the club, pity we couldn't say the same for the Bombers. He has done nothing more than see a family fried...that's fact!!
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Well said WP
Now , I originally sided with Kingy on this one but it seems it just won't go away. It's starting to become a real distraction. It's in the papers and on the news every other day now so I've changed my tune. Just give it a rest for 12 months till you retire Jakey boy , for the sake of the club. Pretty simple really
Are these the names of blokes we want to see associated with current Richmond footballers ?
The Hells Angels have joined forces with a feared gang run by the killer of underworld kingpin Carl Williams inside Barwon Prison, giving the bikies unprecedented influence inside Victoria's highest-security jail.
Detective Senior Sergeant Wayne Cheesman said the bond between the Hells Angels and Prisoners of War demonstrated the reach of the bikie gang.
Prisoners of War, a group led by Matthew Charles Johnson, have aligned with the bikie gang, which police fear will grow stronger through the alliance.
The power play comes as the Hells Angels are embroiled in a violent feud with two rival gangs that have been weakened by the loss of senior members.
It can be revealed that prominent bikie Toby Mitchell has quit the Bandidos because of ill-health caused by two murder attempts, both of which have been linked to the Hells Angels or their associates.
Police confirmed that Mitchell, who had risen to become the Australasian serjeant-at-arms of the Bandidos, had handed in his club colours. His power base had taken in Bandidos chapters in Australia and south-east Asia.
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Your have no idea!!
What ? :lol At least I can compile a sentence !
I rest my case
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Your have no idea!!
What ? :lol At least I can compile a sentence !
I rest my case
What's wrong with WAT's sentence?
And you don't "compile" a sentence.
People who live in glass houses...
:lol
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Oh I get it more than you realise..
You mustn't get it because I have said about a million times I don't live in the West..fool!!
Wow, you know him personally, sorry I didn't realise that. I will have to ask "everyone" about him as well, apparently they all know too.. :whistle!!!
Your have no idea!!
With all due respect WAT, every bit of information available to us the public about Toby Mitchell and his "history" suggest he is not the nicest bloke.
Pity Andy D couldn't make comments on the bigger issues in the AFL such as the Bombers fiasco...
I couldn't care which club the player was/is from, its the principle of the matter. Regardless of what Mitchell has done in the past it has not impacted on King, the AFL or the club, pity we couldn't say the same for the Bombers. He has done nothing more than see a family fried...that's fact!!
And BTW I suggest you get a hold of today's HUN and have a read of Robbo's interview with ANdy D and you will find a lot of comments about other issues
And as I have said I am not disputing that Jake is only seeing a longtime family friend but I think you need to acknowledge and understand that his friend has a reputation that isn't great too say the least and said friend is not considered one of the community's prefect citizens. He has a member of a extremely dangerous bike gang that has done some pretty ordinary things (and that's being kind)
Bottom line Jake had/has a choice and he has made it. Now he has to accept the consequense of that choice and that's going to include (again rightly or wrongly) receiving whacks from people who hold the opinion that he is doing the wrong thing.
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Your have no idea!!
What ? :lol At least I can compile a sentence !
I rest my case
If being stupid enough to focus an a typo rather than the context of my reply makes you smarter...then yes rest your case, I have rested mine!!!
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Are these the names of blokes we want to see associated with current Richmond footballers ?
The Hells Angels have joined forces with a feared gang run by the killer of underworld kingpin Carl Williams inside Barwon Prison, giving the bikies unprecedented influence inside Victoria's highest-security jail.
Detective Senior Sergeant Wayne Cheesman said the bond between the Hells Angels and Prisoners of War demonstrated the reach of the bikie gang.
Prisoners of War, a group led by Matthew Charles Johnson, have aligned with the bikie gang, which police fear will grow stronger through the alliance.
The power play comes as the Hells Angels are embroiled in a violent feud with two rival gangs that have been weakened by the loss of senior members.
It can be revealed that prominent bikie Toby Mitchell has quit the Bandidos because of ill-health caused by two murder attempts, both of which have been linked to the Hells Angels or their associates.
Police confirmed that Mitchell, who had risen to become the Australasian serjeant-at-arms of the Bandidos, had handed in his club colours. His power base had taken in Bandidos chapters in Australia and south-east Asia.
Dice could you please supply a link where you got that info from ( the bit in yellow)
Thanks
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Oh I get it more than you realise..
You mustn't get it because I have said about a million times I don't live in the West..fool!!
Wow, you know him personally, sorry I didn't realise that. I will have to ask "everyone" about him as well, apparently they all know too.. :whistle!!!
Your have no idea!!
With all due respect WAT, every bit of information available to us the public about Toby Mitchell and his "history" suggest he is not the nicest bloke.
Pity Andy D couldn't make comments on the bigger issues in the AFL such as the Bombers fiasco...
I couldn't care which club the player was/is from, its the principle of the matter. Regardless of what Mitchell has done in the past it has not impacted on King, the AFL or the club, pity we couldn't say the same for the Bombers. He has done nothing more than see a family fried...that's fact!!
And BTW I suggest you get a hold of today's HUN and have a read of Robbo's interview with ANdy D and you will find a lot of comments about other issues
And as I have said I am not disputing that Jake is only seeing a longtime family friend but I think you need to acknowledge and understand that his friend has a reputation that isn't great too say the least and said friend is not considered one of the community's prefect citizens. He has a member of a extremely dangerous bike gang done some pretty ordinary things (and that's being kind)
Bottom line Jake had/has a choice and he has made it. Now he has to accept the consequense of that choice and that's going to inlcude (again rightly or wrongly) receiving whacks from people who hold the opinionthat he is doing the wrong thing
Mitchell is what he is and he has done what he has done, he can live with that, no one else has to.
If people want to take cheap shots at King because of who he hangs out with then that shows how little they must have going on in their lives that resemble anything of importance (not meaning you).
From a moral perspective he is doing nothing wrong, the club can't ban him from seeing Mitchell and neither can the law. Unless they move to QLD, but don't get me going on that one. ;D
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Is Jake Kings twitter account verified? Cause he does not hold back at all.
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Your have no idea!!
What ? :lol At least I can compile a sentence !
I rest my case
What's wrong with WAT's sentence?
And you don't "compile" a sentence.
People who live in glass houses...
:lol
I can compile a sentence if I like ;D I could construct one too I guess but if you can't see what's wrong with WAT's sentence then I'm not sure why the hell I'm even responding ? :banghead
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Dice could you please supply a link where you got that info from ( the bit in yellow)
Thanks
www.theage.com.au/.../bikies-and-killer-unite-in-prison-20131106...
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Mitchell is what he is and he has done what he has done, he can live with that, no one else has to.
If people want to take cheap shots at King because of who he hangs out with then that shows how little they must have going on in their lives that resemble anything of importance (not meaning you).
From a moral perspective he is doing nothing wrong, the club can't ban him from seeing Mitchell and neither can the law. Unless they move to QLD, but don't get me going on that one. ;D
All true WAT
But it is also about respect.
I posted this right back at the beginning. The RFC has given Jake King a massive opportunity to be an AFL footballer, they have done a helluva lot for him. I think he should consider that and respect it.
Being seen in PUBLIC with Toby Mitchell is not a good look. Whether we agree or not everytime a footballer is out in public they are represting their club because that is how they are known to the public. It is a massive business now and everything they do is scutinised to the "enth" degree.
So being seen with this bloke impacts negatviely on the RFC. Remember it never gets reported as "AFL Footballer Jake King" it gets reported as "Richmond Footballer Jake King". And let's not be naive to think that the next time Mitchell is in the papers for something Jake and our club wont get dragged into the reporting of it
That's why I am annoyed about it. It damges our Club and I for one don't like it. How much damage who knows?
Believe it or not I can see both sides of the argument.
But when it's all said and done first and foremost my concern is for the Richmonf Football Club, not Jake and his loyalty to his long time mate and certainly not to Toby Mitchell
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Is Jake Kings twitter account verified? Cause he does not hold back at all.
There is/was 2 accounts
The one that doesn't hold back is a fake one
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Your have no idea!!
What ? :lol At least I can compile a sentence !
I rest my case
What's wrong with WAT's sentence?
And you don't "compile" a sentence.
People who live in glass houses...
:lol
I can compile a sentence if I like ;D I could construct one too I guess but if you can't see what's wrong with WAT's sentence then I'm not sure why the hell I'm even responding ? :banghead
It's a spelling error not an error in sentence construction.
:cheers
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Mitchell is what he is and he has done what he has done, he can live with that, no one else has to.
If people want to take cheap shots at King because of who he hangs out with then that shows how little they must have going on in their lives that resemble anything of importance (not meaning you).
From a moral perspective he is doing nothing wrong, the club can't ban him from seeing Mitchell and neither can the law. Unless they move to QLD, but don't get me going on that one. ;D
All true WAT
But it is also about respect.
I posted this right back at the beginning. The RFC has given Jake King a massive opportunity to be an AFL footballer, they have done a helluva lot for him. I think he should consider that and respect it.
Being seen in PUBLIC with Toby Mitchell is not a good look. Whether we agree or not everytime a footballer is out in public they are represting their club because that is how they are known to the public. It is a massive business now and everything they do is scutinised to the "enth" degree.
So being seen with this bloke impacts negatviely on the RFC. Remember it never gets reported as "AFL Footballer Jake King" it gets reported as "Richmond Footballer Jake King". And let's not be naive to think that the next time Mitchell is in the papers for something Jake and our club wont get dragged into the reporting of it
That's why I am annoyed about it. It damges our Club and I for one don't like it. How much damage who knows?
Believe it or not I can see both sides of the argument.
But when it's all said and done first and foremost my concern is for the Richmonf Football Club, not Jake and his loyalty to his long time mate and certainly not to Toby Mitchell
Fair enough and you do have good points, I agree about the club and you see what I mean so all good.
BTW watch our for typo's or Dice will think you are stupid and focus on that instead of what you actually said!! :thumbsup
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It's a spelling error not an error in sentence construction.
:cheers
Oh boy ! :banghead
Yes , a spelling error which renders the sentence incomprehensible.
Just stop it would ya !! :rollin
Bottom line , Kingy needs to think about how this is all looking for the Richmond Football Club. Like I said , he's on his last legs anyhow. Would it really hurt him to lay low for 12 months on the Toby Mitchell thing ?
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BTW watch our for typo's or Dice will think you are stupid and focus on that instead of what you actually said!! :thumbsup
;D
It's a diversion from me talking crap :help
Oh and you made one in that sentence too but I'll let you work it out ;D
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BTW watch our for typo's or Dice will think you are stupid and focus on that instead of what you actually said!! :thumbsup
;D
It's a diversion from me talking crap :help
Oh and you made one in that sentence too but I'll let you work it out ;D
It worked......look Dice there's an ant......and off he goes in the other direction... :whistle
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BTW watch our for typo's or Dice will think you are stupid and focus on that instead of what you actually said!! :thumbsup
;D
It's a diversion from me talking crap :help
Oh and you made one in that sentence too but I'll let you work it out ;D
Most of the world get the apostrophes wrong.
I have long argued that we should away with all together.
:cheers
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Back to the topic ppl!
There was some pretty damning comments from Kochie this morning on sunrise..
Anyone have the audio or transcript? I only heard what they replayed on SEN but clearly its a slow news day :shh
Here you go EEA.
Tigers should get rid of Jake King, says Koch
afl.com.au
February 21, 2014
PORT Adelaide would sack Jake King on the spot for continuing to socialise with former Bandidos boss Toby Mitchell if the Tigers forward was a Power player, Port chairman David Koch says.
Koch's comments follow AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou's statement on Thursday that Richmond should reconsider its stance that King was free to associate with whoever he wanted in his own time, arguing King was risking the Tigers' reputation and putting himself in a vulnerable position through his friendship with Mitchell.
Koch did not pull any punches on Friday morning when speaking on his Channel Seven breakfast show Sunrise about how Port would have dealt with King after he was caught socialising with Mitchell three times in the past seven months, most recently at a Docklands café in January.
"We would get rid of him, absolutely, as simple as that," Koch said.
"Our leadership group would tear him to shreds and say, 'You either stop doing this or you're not part of our group anymore'."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-21/afl-unhappy-with-tigers-and-jake-king
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Back to the topic ppl!
There was some pretty damning comments from Kochie this morning on sunrise..
Anyone have the audio or transcript? I only heard what they replayed on SEN but clearly its a slow news day :shh
Here you go EEA.
Tigers should get rid of Jake King, says Koch
afl.com.au
February 21, 2014
PORT Adelaide would sack Jake King on the spot for continuing to socialise with former Bandidos boss Toby Mitchell if the Tigers forward was a Power player, Port chairman David Koch says.
Koch's comments follow AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou's statement on Thursday that Richmond should reconsider its stance that King was free to associate with whoever he wanted in his own time, arguing King was risking the Tigers' reputation and putting himself in a vulnerable position through his friendship with Mitchell.
Koch did not pull any punches on Friday morning when speaking on his Channel Seven breakfast show Sunrise about how Port would have dealt with King after he was caught socialising with Mitchell three times in the past seven months, most recently at a Docklands café in January.
"We would get rid of him, absolutely, as simple as that," Koch said.
"Our leadership group would tear him to shreds and say, 'You either stop doing this or you're not part of our group anymore'."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-02-21/afl-unhappy-with-tigers-and-jake-king
Ah, Kock (not a typo) McGuire, using his Presidency of the PA Football Club to channel his thought's through a Media outlet where he works.....no conflict there.. :whistle
Pity every FC President can't do the same....might work for him in the real season with the umpiring, it worked for Eddie!!
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Jake of course ;D
Just checking because Toby was supposed to face the County Court this month for some case that was adjourned last Sept/Oct ;D
Demetriou's comments are plainly wrong. The AFL does not have the power to determine who a player associates with. It seems to me by making such comments that he is not only extremely arrogant but power hungry.
Understand your point but I think that maybe they do have power? Look at Ben Cousins - they de-registered him for 12 months not because he failed any drug tests or anything but simply because they did have the power to do it. They couldn't prove anything but clearly didn't like what he was doing, who he was associating with so they flicked him out of the game for 12 months
I think the Cousins situation was different. I believe although I maybe wrong that they argued that his actions were bringing the game into disrepute. He also was at the time or had faced criminal charges. It will really boil down to what is in King's contract. If there is a term in the contract then maybe they have the power but doubt it. Particularly as such clause would be difficult to draft and believe the Courts would read down such a clause. Furthermore Gale has successfully completed a law degree. His view contrasts with AD and I prefer the measured approach of Gale.
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Eddie and Kennett got drunk at a party once. 9 months later Koch was born.
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Most of the world get the apostrophes wrong.
I have long argued that we should away with all together.
:cheers
wouldn't that make your job easier, not having to bother to educate people just because they get it wrong?
"A Korean bloke I know, is going to feed his friends dog tonight"
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"We would get rid of him, absolutely, as simple as that," Koch said.
"Our leadership group would tear him to shreds and say, 'You either stop doing this or you're not part of our group anymore'."
Koch is way out of line here. Reckon the AFLPA might have something to say if he tried to swing that kind of move.
This was the lead story on triple M's 1pm news today. Incorporating AD's comments from yesterday. This is my main issue. It's throwing the club into the unwanted , unnecessary spotlight leading into the season.
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I think the Cousins situation was different. I believe although I maybe wrong that they argued that his actions were bringing the game into disrepute. He also was at the time or had faced criminal charges. It will really boil down to what is in King's contract. If there is a term in the contract then maybe they have the power but doubt it. Particularly as such clause would be difficult to draft and believe the Courts would read down such a clause. Furthermore Gale has successfully completed a law degree. His view contrasts with AD and I prefer the measured approach of Gale.
Yep Cousins was certainly de-registered for bringing the game into disrepute. yes he was in trouble with the law for fleeing a breath test for memory. And that is why I used the analogy. The AFL determines what constitutes what "bringing the game into direpute' means. It is a something they have at their disposal that other rules do not cover, which means they have the power and can invoke when they feel like it
And let's not forget that when this first raised it's extremely ugly head and Benny was on SEN I posted at the time (page 1 of this thread) that:
(a) he didn't sound happy about what had appeared in papers
(b) that despite the club not being able to enforce who players can & cannot associate with the club had indeed spoken to Jake and couselled him as to what is acceptable in a public forum
(c) the Club was but very disappointed in Jake, needs to make better choices, he is a public figure and when he is in public he represents the RFC
So yes while the Club's approach is measured it doesn't mean the Club isn't disappointed because Benny said that they were. And I doubt a month out from the season they would enjoying it constantly being bought up
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Pure media driven agenda at work here. AD, Koch should butt out, Kingy has already said he wont bring TM to any club related functions, that's good enough for me, if he does then the club can take action, otherwise leave it be. Club should stand firm on this one, it is a nothing story that is being driven by the media bc that's what they do.
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I often laugh at the tinfoil hat brigade who claim there's a conspiracy against Richmond (though I agree certain clubs get favourable treatment.) but jeez sometimesit's hard not to wonder.
Circumstantial evidence however is usually never enough to convict on just on it's own. Unless there's a whole mountain of it.
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I think the Cousins situation was different. I believe although I maybe wrong that they argued that his actions were bringing the game into disrepute. He also was at the time or had faced criminal charges. It will really boil down to what is in King's contract. If there is a term in the contract then maybe they have the power but doubt it. Particularly as such clause would be difficult to draft and believe the Courts would read down such a clause. Furthermore Gale has successfully completed a law degree. His view contrasts with AD and I prefer the measured approach of Gale.
Yep Cousins was certainly de-registered for bringing the game into disrepute. yes he was in trouble with the law for fleeing a breath test for memory. And that is why I used the analogy. The AFL determines what constitutes what "bringing the game into direpute' means. It is a something they have at their disposal that other rules do not cover, which means they have the power and can invoke when they feel like it
And let's not forget that when this first raised it's extremely ugly head and Benny was on SEN I posted at the time (page 1 of this thread) that:
(a) he didn't sound happy about what had appeared in papers
(b) that despite the club not being able to enforce who players can & cannot associate with the club had indeed spoken to Jake and couselled him as to what is acceptable in a public forum
(c) the Club was but very disappointed in Jake, needs to make better choices, he is a public figure and when he is in public he represents the RFC
So yes while the Club's approach is measured it doesn't mean the Club isn't disappointed because Benny said that they were. And I doubt a month out from the season they would enjoying it constantly being bought up
I totally agree that the Club would not like this publicity. The important point is that Gale may be disappointed but he is not trying to profess that he has any power to determine who King associates with. It is also important to note that if the AFL tried to charge King with bringing the game into disrepute that decision is reviewable by a Court. Whilst the AFL may try and give a wide definition to the phrase bringing the game into disrepute the Court would take a conservative view being less expansive.
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Wouldn't mind Gale or Peggy Sue publicly standing up for the club for once and telling certain people to pull their heads in.
The former won't though - not to the AFL at least - because he covets the Demetriou's job.
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Kochy has been great for PA but he needs to zip it on this issue. ;D
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The media reports have stepped up a few gears today.
Ch 7 arvo news now:- "Richmond under increasing pressure to act over Jake King's relationship with an outlaw bikie".
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Easy for Koch to be a tough guy in hypothetical situations.
Hope for him there are no skeletons in the Port closet. Would love to see what happens if Wingard's best mate ends up in court for something.
They have a player on their list wtih a criminal record, what a joke this guy is!
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Koch has always been a media whore. Remember the day he climbed into the Ambulance at Beaconsfield. :chuck
I wonder if he would have the same stance if Ollie Wines was cavorting with Bikers.....Hmmm I think not.
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Easy for Koch to be a tough guy in hypothetical situations.
Hope for him there are no skeletons in the Port closet. Would love to see what happens if Wingard's best mate ends up in court for something.
They have a player on their list wtih a criminal record, what a joke this guy is!
Initials please?
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Edit: Referring to a player by name or initial (especially when they are the only one with those initials) regarding crime or criminal records even in jest potentially puts the site at legal risk.
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The media reports have stepped up a few gears today.
Ch 7 arvo news now:- "Richmond under increasing pressure to act over Jake King's relationship with an outlaw bikie".
Lol pressure. He'll be playing tomorrow FFS.
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Ch 7 reporting tonight that Richmond is fuming (over Koch's comments) and standing by Kingy.
The AFLPA is supporting Richmond's stance.
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As an individual Mitchell has priors, has been shot twice, currently has a court case pending and was the head honcho of said bike gang (can't remember exactly the title he had). Again it isn't a good look, granted he has done his time but the mud sticks
Since I've gone looking for Mitchell's criminal record before and come up empty, can you direct me to a report of his "priors" or where "he has done his time".
The court case you refer to as pending I've linked to below:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/bikie-toby-mitchell-to-wait-four-months-for-court-case/story-fni0fee2-1226749890214
and the one which was dismissed a month after:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/bandidos-enforcer-toby-mitchell-walks-smiling-from-court-as-weapons-charges-dropped/story-fni0fee2-1226759683224
While I agree that Mitchell seems like a really nasty piece of work and it's not a good look for Kingy to hang around with him, especially after the ACC report into sport corruption, I think we should stick to the facts and not assume Mitchell is a "criminal" with "priors" or has "done time".
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Edit: Referring to a player by name or initial (especially when they are the only one with those initials) regarding crime or criminal records even in jest potentially puts the site at legal risk.
Hang on, my post gets snipped and CUBs post accusing Port of having a crim on their list remains? LMAO. So we are not allowed to mention that J Schulz has drink driving on his record? Hence the "what a massive criminal" comment I made.
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While I agree that Mitchell seems like a really nasty piece of work and it's not a good look for Kingy to hang around with him, especially after the ACC report into sport corruption, I think we should stick to the facts and not assume Mitchell is a "criminal" with "priors" or has "done time".
Regarding his "priors" and having done his time I am only repeating what was said on the wireless this morning on SEN and what has been said on TV. All of them (Maher, Gaze & Dermie) said it this morning and they are not the first to say it. And they wouldn't have said if there was the slightest chance of legal ramifications
Like you I haven't found a news story on the net that said he has been convicted but all news agency have implied it and they haven't been forced to retract it
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:rollin :angel: :birthday
It's just so farcical, FFS.
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Koshi.
What a licking, rat dog of a man.
An ego as large as eddie but a bigger pooman
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Richmond forward Jake King would be sacked at Port Adelaide, says president Koch
Jon Pierik
The Age
February 22, 2014
The debate over Jake King's friendship with bikie identity Toby Mitchell has escalated, with one club president declaring the Richmond player would have been sacked had he been at his club, while the AFL Players Association maintains the Tiger has not broken any league laws.
Port Adelaide president David Koch said he would not wait for King to slip up, declaring: ''We'd get rid of him, absolutely''. He said the Power's leadership group would ''tear him to shreds'', demanding King cease the friendship or be sacked.
AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou ventured into murky water on Friday, insisting the league can determine who a player spends time with outside his club, something Richmond says it cannot do under its workplace agreement with players.
While Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale prefers King not associate with the former Bandidos bikie club sergeant-at-arms - particularly in light of the Australian Crime Commission report into links between sport and organised crime - he insists he has never issued the small forward a warning.
King has twice been spotted with Mitchell recently and says he is a family friend.
Players association chief Matt Finnis said on Friday King had not broken any rules or brought the game into disrepute.
''I don't believe he is. Clearly, the club recognises the potential seriousness of the situation,'' Finnis said.
''They have sat down with him … they have put some boundaries around that and they work through that. Ultimately, what that recognises is the club is going to trust Jake to make smart choices within the boundaries that they set.''
However, if the relationship led to trouble, Finnis said King would be held accountable. ''I would imagine the employment relationship which Jake and the Tigers have got continues in accordance with the directions that they have set up. Jake continues to make the choices that he believes are within the boundaries. If he slips up and makes a mistake, I am sure the club will hold him accountable for that,'' he said.
''That's what we all ultimately want - players are encouraged to make their own choices but they are going to be accountable for those.''
King's manager Tom Petroro and Mitchell's lawyer declined to comment.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/richmond-forward-jake-king-would-be-sacked-at-port-adelaide-says-president-koch-20140221-337ph.html#ixzz2tyB1Xqqp
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Walsh: Tiger Jake king-hit by the AFL’s moral police
Scott Walsh
From: The Advertiser
February 22, 2014
SO when did the idea of being part of a team suddenly mean handing in the keys to your life?
I’m not sure there’s a date on the calendar we can circle every year to celebrate, but I reckon the era began about the time a subset of self-starred moral police decided their only meaningful contribution to society was to become outraged. At anything. Or anyone. For doing anything.
Richmond’s Jake King has a mate in Melbourne who is a bikie figure.
In fairness, “bikie figure” probably undersells it. Toby Mitchell is reportedly a former Bandidos chief.
It’s not a brand new concept but the discussion about King’s brain capacity and social rights this week takes the debate to a head-scratching new level.
Luminaries from AFL boss Andrew Demetriou to Port Adelaide president David Koch have lined up to smash King for who he includes in his circle of friends and associates.
Demetriou says it “defies belief” that King hasn’t got the clue and wiped this guy with head, neck and arm tattoos from his phone and out of his life.
Koch, when put on the spot on his morning TV show on Friday, said if King was based at Alberton the Power would “get rid of him, absolutely”.
Port Adelaide Chairman David Koch has said he would have sacked Richmond's Jake King if the forward played for Power, given his links with a bikie gang member.
“Simple as that,” Koch said.
“Our leadership group would tear him to shreds and say either you stop doing this or you’re not part of our group anymore, simple as that.”
I haven’t really got an issue with Koch’s response. They’re tough words, sure, and leave no doubt where he stands on the issue.
But he didn’t suggest the Tigers should punt King from Punt Rd. Koch was simply stating the rules of the game as they apply at Port Adelaide. And that’s fine — Port Adelaide has every right to dictate the off-field standards for its players, just as Richmond has.
As for Demetriou publicly pooh-poohing a player’s selection of mates outside of football, it’s a line full of homemade clothes, shared wives and a doomsday prediction short of a cult.
Who needs the burden of free thought when someone with more authority can do it for you?
Society says outlaw bikie gangs are bad, I get it.
The police have special task forces to combat their criminal behaviour and its impact on the rest of the community.
But last I heard, King has never been charged or even suspected of drug use. Never been sprung running methamphetamine after being ordered to cough in an airport interview room.
Never started a drunken pub brawl, or transported weapons, or thrown a game for underground bookies.
As far as we know he’s never even done any sort of a “job” outside a bit of forward pressure for coach Damien Hardwick.
When King brought his bikie mate into the Richmond changerooms post-match last year, I’ll agree that overstepped a line.
During a game and immediately before and after, a player is on duty for the club and a representative of the AFL.
There’s obligations, from TV commitments, press conferences, fan interaction and much more. The club, and even the league, was quite right to put its foot down on who can and can’t enter areas of an AFL-accredited changeroom.
But what has followed since has been comical.
King’s career was last month apparently “in the balance” when cameras spotted him in Melbourne’s Docklands precinct with Mitchell. There they were, in daylight hours, in civilian clothes, drinking coffee.
That heinous act followed another interaction, at a Melbourne game of lingerie football. In the damning photos, the pair are sitting in the AAMI Park outer — in different rows, clearly plotting some nefarious scheme.
The AFL rightly has a desire and obligation to ensure its product is as clean, sparkly and free of corruption as possible.
King is an AFL player who has a small window in his life to be a professional athlete. He’s rewarded well for it, and certain sacrifices go with the territory.
Let clubs enforce drinking bans so players can perform at their best.
Late for training? Slap on fines. Fail skin-fold tests? Get the leadership group to reinforce club expectations. Locked up for being blotto in public? Suspensions, community service and all the public shaming that few others in society are ever exposed to.
When off-field behaviour impacts on-field performance, then it’s an issue. But can't we just hold the outrage for something slightly stronger than hypothetical social crimes?
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/walsh-tiger-jake-kinghit-by-the-afls-moral-police/story-stuff-1226834116044
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I think the whole episode highlights how far Richmond has come as a club in the past few years.
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Walshy :clapping
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Lets talk about Koch, appropriate behaviour as a media person and an employee within the afl industry
(http://images.smh.com.au/2011/04/05/2289614/art-david-koch-beaconsfield-420x0.jpg)
Yeah the following is from Wiki but most of it appears to be well sourced.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koch_(television_presenter)
In April 2006, Koch walked the Kokoda Track in remembrance of Anzac Day. He was accompanied by his son A.J., his brother, his nephew, fellow news presenter Natalie Barr's husband Andrew, politicians Joe Hockey and Kevin Rudd, and Rudd's son. Their journey was documented for Sunrise and finished with a televised Anzac Day service, during which Koch's group controversially wore t-shirts advertising Seven News, which were prominently visible in the Sunrise broadcast. Koch strenuously denied any impropriety. The company which organised the tour later said the t-shirt labelling was a safety issue commonly used to identify trekkers.
In May 2006, Koch and Sunrise co-host Melissa Doyle were acquitted of contempt of court charges in a Melbourne Local Court. The charge arose after the name of a 14-year-old boy was published in a case in which the boy sought an irreconcilable differences order against his parents. The boy was painted as the source of the problem in the media, however the findings of Child Protection authorities and the Children's Court of Victoria that led to the order may not have been available to Koch or the media at the time, due to legal restraints, and have never been aired in the subsequent public debates about this case and the law of irreconcilable differences. The Seven Network and the show's producer were convicted of the offence.[6]
On 9 May 2006, Koch covered the Beaconsfield mine rescue live from Beaconsfield when the trapped miners Todd Russell and Brant Webb were rescued. Todd Russell was a fan of Sunrise, and had been sending messages to Koch while trapped through rescue workers.[7] After delaying Russell being transported to the hospital, Koch claimed that Russell invited him into the ambulance where he was given Russell's Miner's Tag from the safety board at the mine entrance.[8] Koch's claim was verified by the emergency workers in charge of the vehicle.[9] Koch later appeared on the ABC's The Glass House and talked about the incident, defending his actions.
On 18 January 2013, Koch attracted attention, finding himself the target of indignant women across Australia after he made comments about breastfeeding. The controversy arose after a response to a story about a Queensland mother asked to be more discreet with her breastfeeding at a public pool. Koch commented that while agreeing with the right of mothers for public breastfeeding to do it discreetly is a common courtesy to others. The comment gained angry reactions, with threats that the Sunrise studio at Martin Place would be swamped by up to 800 angry breastfeeding mothers. Koch's comments were condemned by media consultant Mia Freedman.[10]
On 16 April 2013, Koch was criticised after suggesting that the Boston Marathon bombings could have 'Irish' link. Koch discussed the aftermath of the Boston blast with a panel. Koch posed the question, “It’s [Boston] a very big Irish Catholic city, we've got Margaret Thatcher's funeral coming up tomorrow in London. Is it a really long stretch to think they could be related?”. Immediately after his comments Sunrise viewers went to Twitter to complain about Koch.[11]
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The only damage done is again by the media.
Get over it Koch. It would be very different if it was port adelaide's most valuable elite player :banghead
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Koshi.
What a licking, rat dog of a man.
An ego as large as eddie but a bigger pooman
x 2
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Big Wayne Schwass and Leigh Montagna going in to bat for King on MMM's Dead Set Legends this morning :clapping
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Dwaino
BIG wayne schwass????
I thought he was a smallish midfielder,has he slapped on the weight since retirement to become galloping gasometre like?
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:lol
nfi to be honest.
At first I thought it was Campbell Brown because he's been on that show since Nathan Brown left it. Turns out it was Schwatter and I just replaced the names :cheers
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Kock's "record" appears to be worse than Mitchell's... :lol
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Kock's "record" appears to be worse than Mitchell's... :lol
Photo of him on the news last night with the bloke that sexually assaulted the lovely Sarah Hyland. Would love to here the thoughts of Kockie?
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Kock's "record" appears to be worse than Mitchell's... :lol
Photo of him on the news last night with the bloke who allegedly but probably didn't sexually assault the hollywood primadonna and bug-eyed poor man's Mila Kunis, Sarah Hyland.
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:lol so true. I was trying to pump her up a bit to make Kochie look worse though. Thanks for ruining it. :lol
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Seriously who cares what Kochie thinks?
Some easily led here.....
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He is fast becoming the human headline. Ego and his sense of self importance needs deflating. In addition his role in the media is to report the news not create it. But agree who cares what Koch thinks
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Koch is a bigger troll than some of the dudes on here
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The RFC has given Jake King a massive opportunity to be an AFL footballer, they have done a helluva lot for him. I think he should consider that and respect it.
This stuff grinds my gears, the club would not have done anything for Jake King if they didn't think they were going to get anything in return which they have
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This will only be an issue if Richmond make it one. Let everyone else get worked up...just because flogs are writing articles doesn't mean we all need to be swinging from trees. Bugger it I say, bring Mitchell in to take training this week. That will show we really DGAF.
Stick by the midget.
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The RFC has given Jake King a massive opportunity to be an AFL footballer, they have done a helluva lot for him. I think he should consider that and respect it.
This stuff grinds my gears, the club would not have done anything for Jake King if they didn't think they were going to get anything in return which they have
Agree - outside of contracts, players & clubs owe each other nothing.
If King was a nobody who didn't play football and had walked into the Punt Road offices off the street, the club would've probably had security escort him off the premises or called the police - same goes for Martin.
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that still may yet happen..............
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Not sure this is a good thing or not ;D
But Patrick Smith via his daily editorial in today's Australian has gone into bat big time for Jake (despite saying he looks like a wall of graffitti in footy boots :lol) and in the process has gone "whackety, whack, whack" at the AFL and in particular Andy D over using Jake's friendship with Mitchell to divert the media away from forcing Andy D to answer questions about their stuff up of the Bombers scandal.
Patrick has bascially said that the spin doctors at HQ have used the King/Mitchell saga (ED: "saga" is my word) to create a diversion and take the pressure off Andy D ;D
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bout time someone called it how it is :clapping
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Not sure this is a good thing or not ;D
But Patrick Smith via his daily editorial in today's Australian has gone into bat big time for Jake (despite saying he looks like a wall of graffitti in footy boots :lol) and in the process has gone "whackety, whack, whack" at the AFL and in particular Andy D over using Jake's friendship with Mitchell to divert the media away from forcing Andy D to answer questions about their stuff up of the Bombers scandal.
Patrick has bascially said that the spin doctors at HQ have used the King/Mitchell saga (ED: "saga" is my word) to create a diversion and take the pressure off Andy D ;D
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Not sure this is a good thing or not ;D
But Patrick Smith via his daily editorial in today's Australian has gone into bat big time for Jake (despite saying he looks like a wall of graffitti in footy boots :lol) and in the process has gone "whackety, whack, whack" at the AFL and in particular Andy D over using Jake's friendship with Mitchell to divert the media away from forcing Andy D to answer questions about their stuff up of the Bombers scandal.
Patrick has bascially said that the spin doctors at HQ have used the King/Mitchell saga (ED: "saga" is my word) to create a diversion and take the pressure off Andy D ;D
Gone from my most despised journo in the past to my fave in one fell swoop! :clapping
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No jail for Vic ex-bikie over club brawl
2:25pm March 5, 2014
Former Bandidos enforcer Toby Mitchell has avoided jail over a strip club brawl, but a judge has told him he's too old for that kind of behaviour.
Mitchell, 39, pleaded guilty to affray over the wild nightclub brawl in central Melbourne in November 2010.
Staff were punched and bar chairs thrown after Mitchell and two other men were asked to leave the Centrefold Lounge on King Street.
Since the incident Mitchell has twice been shot and nearly died after one of the shootings, the Victorian County Court heard on Wednesday.
Sentencing Mitchell and co-offenders Savvacis Tsivicios, 41, and Peter Robert Algie, 43, on Wednesday, Victorian County Court Judge John Smallwood said the trio were "getting a bit old for it".
"The fact of the matter is you can't behave like this in public," he said.
"You are all big blokes."
Judge Smallwood said Mitchell had admitted the brawl happened for no good reason.
He said while the brawl was not the worst example of affray he had seen, it was not a trivial matter.
Judge Smallwood noted Mitchell's poor health and agreed with a submission from his lawyer that he would be a target in jail.
He said delays in the matter being finalised, which were no fault of the three men, were also a factor in his sentence.
Judge Smallwood jailed Mitchell and Tsivicios, of Taylors Lakes, who also pleaded guilty to affray, for four months but wholly suspended the sentence for 12 months.
Algie, of Southbank, pleaded guilty to recklessly causing injury and was given a two-month jail sentence, wholly suspended for nine months.
Mitchell, who wore a pink shirt to his sentencing, appeared relieved as he left court without commenting to reporters.
The court was told during his pre-sentence hearing on Tuesday that Mitchell was no longer a member of any gang or club and was concerned that other inmates would seek to attack him if he was sent to prison.
Mitchell was shot five times in the back outside a Brunswick gym in 2011 and was again shot in March last year after more than 30 rounds were fired at a Melton bikie clubhouse.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/03/05/11/09/no-jail-for-ex-vic-bandido-bikie-mitchell (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/03/05/11/09/no-jail-for-ex-vic-bandido-bikie-mitchell)
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Can King hang out with him now? FFS :banghead
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Can King hang out with him now? FFS :banghead
I dunno man, he wore a pink shirt....
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Something a bit light hearted
http://the-stuff.com/2014/03/kingdimma/
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Tiger Jake King still in ex-bikie Toby Mitchell’s court
Anthony Dowsley
Herald-Sun
June 25, 2014 10:09PM
RICHMOND forward Jake King is still consorting with ex-bikie hard man Toby Mitchell despite being urged to sever the association.
Mitchell has posted on social media pictures of himself and other mates with King at fight nights this month and in the MCG stands watching the Tigers.
Former AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou strongly urged Richmond management to persuade King to sever his association with Mitchell, who appears to be expanding his business horizons following his resignation from the Bandidos motorcycle club.
The former bikie’s claims to have opened a tattoo shop in South Melbourne, City of Ink; however, company documents do not link Mitchell to the business name.
Mitchell has posted a video of himself getting an elaborate head tattoo and also promoting the shop.
And the ex-bikie, recovering from six bullet wounds, also believes he is fighting fit and is contemplating a farewell bout after seven years out of the ring.
King, who is unlikely to be offered another contract by the Tigers after an injury-plagued season, has appeared with Mitchell at fight nights, including at Melbourne Pavilion in Flemington last weekend.
The event was promoted by Powerplay, a business of which Mitchell was previously a director.
Richmond has declined to comment, saying it has made its position clear to King, who is not to bring Mitchell to official club events.
But club management has baulked at banning the forward from associating with Mitchell or sanctioning him for his off-field associations.
In March this year, Mitchell avoided jail over a vicious affray at a King St nightclub in 2010.
A magistrate wholly suspended a four-month prison term for a year after taking into account Mitchell’s ill health and fears he could become a target in prison.
At some of the proceedings, Mitchell used a walking stick, his lawyers citing his ailing health from two shootings as a reason to spare him from prison time.
Less than four months later, Mitchell is again living the high-life.
While serving his suspended sentence, Mitchell has posted pictures of himself enjoying a recent trip to Thailand, showing off numerous American muscle cars at his disposal, and even brags his favoured car, a Commodore Senator, was due to be impounded this week under anti-hoon laws.
Earlier this month he was photographed walking out of The Botanical restaurant in South Yarra with controversial biochemist and convicted drug trafficker Shane Charter, who is a key witness in the Essendon supplement scandal.
Charter is currently under investigation by the Victoria Police Purana taskforce in relation to peptide supply or trafficking.
This month he told the Herald Sun he had been treating Mitchell, who has been using “non-traditional and cutting-edge treatment’’, to help him recover from a shooting.
“He is probably now in the best shape of his life and could go 10 rounds,’’ Charter said.
Mitchell was shot five times in November 2011, outside Doherty’s Gym in Brunswick by gunman yet to be charged.
He was also shot during an ambush by Hells Angels outside the Diablos clubhouse in Melton in March 2013.
http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/tiger-jake-king-still-in-exbikie-toby-mitchells-court/story-fnii5sms-1226966940514
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Rubbish article
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Why does it matter now he isn't on the list?
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Old news. Lazy.
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Why does it matter now he isn't on the list?
:lol :clapping
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The UK press has taken up the story over there but they've got the wrong surname :wallywink.
Footy star Jake Hall is back hanging out with colourful ex-bikie Toby Mitchell
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2670143/Footy-star-Jake-Hall-hanging-colourful-ex-bikie-Toby-Mitchell.html#ixzz35iiKuRWo
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Jake Hall plays with Strathfieldsaye in the Bendigo Footy League (Same side as Milne and Baker) and is a much better player so easy to see how they made the error.
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Jake Hall plays with Strathfieldsaye in the Bendigo Footy League (Same side as Milne and Baker) and is a much better player so easy to see how they made the error.
Sign him up
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Lagging dog article.
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The issue I see here is rightly or wrongly Gale has made it clear he doesn't like King hanging out with this cat and King clearly couldn't care less.
Putting aside the moral and right of individuals arguments, it speaks volumes for the regard the players have for club leadership.
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The issue I see here is rightly or wrongly Gale has made it clear he doesn't like King hanging out with this cat and King clearly couldn't care less.
Putting aside the moral and right of individuals arguments, it speaks volumes for the regard the players have for club leadership.
By the same token, one in a leadership role needs to conduct oneself in a way that warrants respect from those around them.
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Exactly, attitude reflects leadership.
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Tigers 'not fussed' with my bikie mate, says King
Nat Edwards
afl.com.au
July 5, 2014 6:15 PM
RICHMOND hardnut Jake King insists the club has no concerns over his controversial friendship with former bikie boss Toby Mitchell.
The 30-year-old's association with Mitchell first made headlines in 2012 when King invited the former Bandido leader into the Richmond rooms at the MCG after a win over the Brisbane Lions.
Since then he has continued to socialise with Mitchell, with the pair photographed on several occasions despite the club's preference they cut ties with each other.
The media attention has been a constant source of frustration for the 30-year-old who made headlines again a week ago when he appeared in a photo with Mitchell.
King said the Tigers had no problems with the relationship, as long as he continued to adhere to certain guidelines they had put in place.
"The club's got no issues whatsoever," he told Triple M on Saturday.
"The reality is you grow up in all areas of life and not everyone is perfect. To be honest we've all got friends who are unique in their own sort of way.
"If we were all the same type of people the world would be a boring place. The thing is, you're made out to be a bad person or you've done something wrong but that's just one person's opinion.
"[Mitchell] is a good bloke and I've grown up with him."
The injured forward declared he wanted to play in 2015, despite fears he would be unable to get back on the field this season.
King has been plagued by injury with a quadriceps strain and a chronic toe injury limiting him to just two senior games this year.
He is out of contract at the end of the season, and is yet to discuss his future with the club.
The Tiger conceded his chances of having his contract renewed would depend on whether he could return to the senior side.
"To be honest I'd love to play one more year of footy next year," King told Triple M on Saturday.
"In a perfect world I'd love to play next year and play a dozen or so games if I can and help out the younger guys on our list.
"I want to walk away from the game with my head held high. If I can get another 12 months out of my body, I'd be rapt.
"The reality is if I can't get back out on the big stage this year, then what's the point of playing on next year? That's just taking up someone else's spot on the list and holding them back."
King had a fourth surgical procedure on his toe last week, but remains confident he will be able to return to senior footy this year.
The 30-year-old said he expected to return to football via the VFL after the split round 18 and had the full support of coach Damian Hardwick.
"He said as soon as we get a bit of fitness and running into the legs at training then you'll hit the ground running and we'll give you a red hot crack," King said.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-05/tigers-okay-with-kings-company