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Title: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: one-eyed on September 16, 2013, 02:45:35 PM
If Dusty does quit for good, then the $500k p.a. put aside for his new contract will be freed up. What should the Club do with it? Go poach a name player from another club now or keep it free as spare salary cap space for our list as it develops further over the next few years?
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 16, 2013, 02:48:11 PM
Resign mcgaune / nahas contract upgrades and extension
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: dwaino on September 16, 2013, 02:49:27 PM
Give it to me.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 02:53:29 PM
buy meat trays for raffles in the social club after the game.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: crannyvegas on September 16, 2013, 02:56:52 PM
This is a massive loss for us. Remove Dusty from our midfield and it doesn't look nearly as dangerous.

It will be interesting what we do though. If the club has allocated a sum of money to acquire another player & keep dusty, does it change our focus on the quality of player we chase?

I have no idea of his contract status, but i'd throw serious coin at Steven Motlop.

Use whatever we get from Dusty to get him and use our first rounder on Adams...

I'm dreaming, but i could live with that outcome. 
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 16, 2013, 02:58:32 PM
Bring back Troy Taylor and buy him that house he wanted. :shh
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 16, 2013, 03:00:53 PM
is adams for martin enough?

i dont know enough about this bloke but i do know that dusty can be a match winner.

i would happy with what al has put up previously.

adams and GWS pick 1

for

dusty and our pick 11
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Yeahright on September 16, 2013, 03:03:31 PM
Resign mcgaune / nahas contract upgrades and extension
:lol :lol
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Yeahright on September 16, 2013, 03:03:57 PM
Re-sign Connors?
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: tony_montana on September 16, 2013, 03:06:19 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: the claw on September 16, 2013, 03:32:28 PM
if we are worried about the midfield  use what compensation we get, hopefully a top 5 pick plus second rounder  on a quality young mid/utility like scharenberg for instance and use pick 11 to bring adams in. 2nd rounder we get could be used on a decent young ruckman like darcy cameron.

hopefully it wont be all doom and gloom.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: tigerwoods on September 16, 2013, 03:33:49 PM
cheaper beer at home games
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: wayne on September 16, 2013, 04:04:14 PM
So early on, it sounds as though Melbourne, Carlton and GWS are the teams right into him.

Pick 2 for starters from Melbourne

Carlton, Pick 12 and they trade Yarran and hand that pick over as well.

GWS - Pick 1 would be nice, but maybe Adams and 10.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 16, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
So early on, it sounds as though Melbourne, Carlton and GWS are the teams right into him.

Pick 2 for starters from Melbourne

Carlton, Pick 12 and they trade Yarran and hand that pick over as well.

GWS - Pick 1 would be nice, but maybe Adams and 10.

YARRAN
I HOPE YOUR JOKING WAYNE

Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 16, 2013, 04:11:16 PM
We should not deal with the Carlton, Essendon or Collingwood FC.

They have nothing to offer us and if Dimma deals with them, especially the former,  he can FO too.

Yarran Betts or any of these cock suckers can stuff off

Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: wayne on September 16, 2013, 04:19:08 PM
So early on, it sounds as though Melbourne, Carlton and GWS are the teams right into him.

Pick 2 for starters from Melbourne

Carlton, Pick 12 and they trade Yarran and hand that pick over as well.

GWS - Pick 1 would be nice, but maybe Adams and 10.

YARRAN
I HOPE YOUR JOKING WAYNE

I didn't mean we get Yarran, the Blues trade Yarran (hopefully for a top ten pick) and then on-trade that and 12 to us.

ie.
Martin to Carlton
Pick 12 and Pick 6 to Richmond
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 16, 2013, 04:20:05 PM
 :thumbsup

knew you were a bright lad

Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: TigerMonk on September 16, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
So early on, it sounds as though Melbourne, Carlton and GWS are the teams right into him.

Pick 2 for starters from Melbourne

Carlton, Pick 12 and they trade Yarran and hand that pick over as well.

GWS - Pick 1 would be nice, but maybe Adams and 10.

YARRAN
I HOPE YOUR JOKING WAYNE

I didn't mean we get Yarran, the Blues trade Yarran (hopefully for a top ten pick) and then on-trade that and 12 to us.

ie.
Martin to Carlton
Pick 12 and Pick 6 to Richmond

You hacking my computer network Wayne  ;D
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Andyy on September 16, 2013, 04:59:45 PM
Need to chase a power forward.

Somebody like Josh Kennedy, Taylor Walker, Tom Hawkins etc.

And a quality small forward like Steve Motlop.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 16, 2013, 06:13:42 PM
if Mrakov's rumour about Adidas is right they might need it to pay KooGa for breaking a contract  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: JVT on September 16, 2013, 06:21:07 PM
if Mrakov's rumour about Adidas is right they might need it to pay KooGa for breaking a contract  :rollin :rollin
:lol :lol
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: wayne on September 16, 2013, 07:22:43 PM
So early on, it sounds as though Melbourne, Carlton and GWS are the teams right into him.

Pick 2 for starters from Melbourne

Carlton, Pick 12 and they trade Yarran and hand that pick over as well.

GWS - Pick 1 would be nice, but maybe Adams and 10.

YARRAN
I HOPE YOUR JOKING WAYNE

I didn't mean we get Yarran, the Blues trade Yarran (hopefully for a top ten pick) and then on-trade that and 12 to us.

ie.
Martin to Carlton
Pick 12 and Pick 6 to Richmond

You hacking my computer network Wayne  ;D
Yeah, where do you keep your porn?  :lol
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: DCrane on September 16, 2013, 07:37:12 PM
So early on, it sounds as though Melbourne, Carlton and GWS are the teams right into him.

Pick 2 for starters from Melbourne

Carlton, Pick 12 and they trade Yarran and hand that pick over as well.

GWS - Pick 1 would be nice, but maybe Adams and 10.

YARRAN
I HOPE YOUR JOKING WAYNE

I didn't mean we get Yarran, the Blues trade Yarran (hopefully for a top ten pick) and then on-trade that and 12 to us.

ie.
Martin to Carlton
Pick 12 and Pick 6 to Richmond



I doubt Carlton would get a pick 6 for Yarran but I agree with the sum total of your 2 draft picks wayno ie Pick 6 and Pick 12.
If we take 2 draft picks for Dusty, the base opening point of negotiations for mine is that the sum total of them should not be more than 17 or 18 ie Collingwood's picks 10 and 11 will be close but not close enough.
Picks 1 and 2 on their own you would take as well and I think they are achievable and if Dusty wants the extra $ he has to go to GWS imv.
If Melbourne offer Pick 2 then GWS may well offer the big one, there won't be much better than this on the table for them this year,  and they said they would use the pick and they can afford him. I would go even further and see if we can upgrade our first pick seeing as though gws are having a firesale on their picks.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Smokey on September 16, 2013, 07:39:33 PM
Trouble with GWS is that they don't have to offer anything, no trade, no nothing.  If Dusty is going then we really really need him to go elsewhere than GWS.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 16, 2013, 08:08:40 PM
I agree Smokey but if Dees want him then GWS would need to better that and pick 1 will become the offer

Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Smokey on September 16, 2013, 08:16:42 PM
It won't matter what the Dees offer us, it will all come down to where Martin wants to go - if it's Melbourne then we can play hardball at the trade table, if it's GWS then we'll get nothing.  We need Melbourne to really open their purse and offer him an obscene amount that GWS aren't prepared to match.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Penelope on September 16, 2013, 08:21:45 PM
Trouble with GWS is that they don't have to offer anything, no trade, no nothing.  If Dusty is going then we really really need him to go elsewhere than GWS.
they don't have to, but they most probably will.  they stated they want to trade pick 1 for a player so if now that a player is available they then screw the players club it will come back to bite them in future negotiations, and they have a precent with us of being more than fair.

my guess is what they offer will be pretty much a starting and finishing point. It may favor them but wont be a total arse rape.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: TigerLand on September 16, 2013, 11:39:01 PM
Martin to GWS for Pick 1
Pick 1 to Richmond
Richmond trade Pick 1 and Pick 12 for Pat Dangerfield and a 2nd rounder.

Would happily give up Dustin and Pick 12 for Dangerfield.

Cotchin, Deledio, Dangerfield, Vlastiun, Conca and Ellis = is a premiership midfield.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: TigerLand on September 16, 2013, 11:39:49 PM
Martin to GWS for Pick 1
Pick 1 to Richmond
Richmond trade Pick 1 and Pick 12 for Pat Dangerfield and a 2nd rounder.

Would happily give up Dustin and Pick 12 for Dangerfield.

Cotchin, Deledio, Dangerfield, Vlastiun, Conca and Ellis = is a premiership midfield.

Adelaide are stuffed and need to rebuild, they can't with no 1st and 2nd round picks. They will trade Dangerfield for a future (Pick 1 and 12)

Get it done Tigers.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 16, 2013, 11:51:25 PM
Martin to GWS for Pick 1
Pick 1 to Richmond
Richmond trade Pick 1 and Pick 12 for Pat Dangerfield and a 2nd rounder.

Would happily give up Dustin and Pick 12 for Dangerfield.

Cotchin, Deledio, Dangerfield, Vlastiun, Conca and Ellis = is a premiership midfield.

Adelaide are stuffed and need to rebuild, they can't with no 1st and 2nd round picks. They will trade Dangerfield for a future (Pick 1 and 12)

Get it done Tigers.

To be honest I don't think Dangerfield would want to leave.
IMO we need to do what we can to get Taylor Adams across. The kid is going to be a gun in the same mould as Selwood and he has show plenty in his 31 games so far! He averages over 20 possessions and nealy 4 tackles a game and his stats in these early days crap all over Dangerfields ( Dangerfield averaged 6, 13 and 15 in his first 3 years) Long term this is the kind of kid we need.
If we can get him to the club you'll be asking yourself "who is Dustin Martin" in two years time ;D
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: TigerLand on September 16, 2013, 11:55:16 PM
Not sold on Taylor Adams. He's no upgrade or replacement on Dustin.

I'd be putting Conca ahead of Taylor Adams.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Andyy on September 17, 2013, 12:50:30 AM
No way would I give up picks 1 and 12 for dangerfield.

We have mids.

Either get Tom Boyd with pick 1 and try to use pick 12 + something else for Taylor Adams, or pick 1 for dangerfield and then use pick 12 to draft/trade for a player.

Not worth both. Geez. He hasn't even got a brownlow :D
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 17, 2013, 12:58:24 AM
Not sold on Taylor Adams. He's no upgrade or replacement on Dustin.

I'd be putting Conca ahead of Taylor Adams.

What's not selling you? He's hard at it, great disposal and is a tackling machine!
9 tackles along with 26 disposals at 86% efficiency against Hawthorn shows the kid isn't scared.
Mark my words, he will be in the top 10 players in the league 5 years from now ;)
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 17, 2013, 01:02:02 AM
Dangerfield lmfao some of the trades you limpgots talk about are in their own spectrum of delusion

Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: the claw on September 17, 2013, 01:09:38 AM
Not sold on Taylor Adams. He's no upgrade or replacement on Dustin.

I'd be putting Conca ahead of Taylor Adams.

What's not selling you? He's hard at it, great disposal and is a tackling machine!
9 tackles along with 26 disposals at 86% efficiency against Hawthorn shows the kid isn't scared.
Mark my words, he will be in the top 10 players in the league 5 years from now ;)
yep agree. the good thing is adams like martin is out of contract and can walk for nothing.
two out of contact players sort of suggests we just swap with perhaps a few steak knives like their 3rd rounder coming our way or our third rounder for their second rounder.. its better than nothing for martin which is a possibility.

while agree we must stick to our guns i think we really do need to get something out of this if push comes to shove.

we wont know what we can do until marin nominates which club he wants to go to. lets hope its not gws.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 17, 2013, 07:02:20 AM
Martin to GWS for Pick 1
Pick 1 to Richmond
Richmond trade Pick 1 and Pick 12 for Pat Dangerfield and a 2nd rounder.

Would happily give up Dustin and Pick 12 for Dangerfield.

Cotchin, Deledio, Dangerfield, Vlastiun, Conca and Ellis = is a premiership midfield.

Need to let go of this Dangerfield obession Pope. It isn't going to happen

Dangerfield will not be leaving and doesn't want to leave Adelaide and expecting him to their next captain as soon as 2014
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Penelope on September 17, 2013, 08:00:15 AM
thank stuff some of you bozos are not making decisions for the club.

we have a drafteee rated as a once in a lifetime forward and we should give that up (if get the pick )plus downgrade our first pick to a second rounder?

Tra la la, la la la la
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: JVT on September 17, 2013, 08:44:35 AM
Dangerfield  :facepalm
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Sandtiger on September 17, 2013, 11:01:27 AM
Sign Conca for $350 he is definitely worth it!

then GWS get Martin, pick 11 and our 2nd round draft pick

We get Pick 1, Taylor Adams and their 2nd round draft Pick (Dayle Garlett before North's 2nd round pic comes along) :rollin  :rollin  :thumbsup

Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Damo on September 17, 2013, 11:28:54 AM
So early on, it sounds as though Melbourne, Carlton and GWS are the teams right into him.

Pick 2 for starters from Melbourne

Carlton, Pick 12 and they trade Yarran and hand that pick over as well.

GWS - Pick 1 would be nice, but maybe Adams and 10.

YARRAN
I HOPE YOUR JOKING WAYNE

Read what he actually said ...

He doesnt say anything about us trading for yarran.

All he suggests is us receiving the pick that they get for yarran
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 17, 2013, 11:34:08 AM
So early on, it sounds as though Melbourne, Carlton and GWS are the teams right into him.

Pick 2 for starters from Melbourne

Carlton, Pick 12 and they trade Yarran and hand that pick over as well.

GWS - Pick 1 would be nice, but maybe Adams and 10.

YARRAN
I HOPE YOUR JOKING WAYNE

Read what he actually said ...

He doesnt say anything about us trading for yarran.

All he suggests is us receiving the pick that they get for yarran

i misread what i said, my mistake.

I guess i just read Yarran and didnt read much further because i think he and anything to do with that club is grade A skata

Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: tony_montana on September 17, 2013, 11:37:50 AM
The eyes started filming over with red the moment he read carlscum and yarran  :lol  cant blame the guy
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 17, 2013, 12:10:31 PM
should use the $500k on a decent recruiter and development coach
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on September 17, 2013, 01:15:11 PM
should use the $500k on a decent recruiter and development coach
That's a silly comment.  We can spend as much as we like on those coaches as they are outside the salary cap.  The $500k is in the salary cap for player payments!

Sheesh!!
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 17, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
should use the $500k on a decent recruiter and development coach
That's a silly comment.  We can spend as much as we like on those coaches as they are outside the salary cap.  The $500k is in the salary cap for player payments!

Sheesh!!

then spend it on dale thomas and take some coin out of petty cash for a bag of mull
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: JVT on September 17, 2013, 01:43:20 PM
should use the $500k on a decent recruiter and development coach
That's a silly comment.  We can spend as much as we like on those coaches as they are outside the salary cap.  The $500k is in the salary cap for player payments!

Sheesh!!

then spend it on dale thomas and take some coin out of petty cash for a bag of mull
Trade Martin to Carlton, we sign Dale Thomas as a Free Agent as his replacement :rollin
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: JVT on September 17, 2013, 01:45:57 PM
My reason to trade him to Carlton was so they wouldn't go after Thomas, but we could just outbid them for Thomas and then trade Martin to someone else . . . Carlscum get nothing then  :rollin
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Penelope on September 17, 2013, 01:49:48 PM
how is thomas's foot/ankle?
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 17, 2013, 01:51:07 PM
My reason to trade him to Carlton was so they wouldn't go after Thomas, but we could just outbid them for Thomas and then trade Martin to someone else . . . Carlscum get nothing then  :rollin

i love this................

do it tigers.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: tigs2011 on September 17, 2013, 01:55:33 PM
Why the stuff would we overpay for Dale Thomas. May as well just give the money to Duzzy. At least he doesn't need a zimmer frame to get about.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 17, 2013, 05:59:14 PM
Why the stuff would we overpay for Dale Thomas.

because dan richardson is in a battle of egos with the manager of noiseworks
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 17, 2013, 09:24:46 PM
Why the stuff would we overpay for Dale Thomas.

because dan richardson is in a battle of egos with the manager of noiseworks

Need to get them both on Red Faces from Hey Hey It's Saturday.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: torch on September 17, 2013, 11:09:58 PM
Sign Martin for $400,000 after he comes crawling back!

Give Conca $350,000.

Taylor Adams goes into ND, we take him with our 4th round pick.

Take Dayle Garlett with our 3rd round pick.

Billy Longer we take in the PSD!

PERFECT!

And at Pick 11 take best available midfielder and we are set!

GET IT DONE RICHMOND!

Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: JVT on September 18, 2013, 07:18:09 AM
Sign Martin for $400,000 after he comes crawling back! He'll get more than that.

Give Conca $350,000. That's about right

Taylor Adams goes into ND, we take him with our 4th round pick. If he went into the ND, would go alot earlier than Round 4. Will be traded.

Take Dayle Garlett with our 3rd round pick. Have a feeling he will be selected before Round 3.

Billy Longer we take in the PSD! Once again will not be in PSD, will be traded like Adams.

PERFECT! Will never happen.

And at Pick 11 take best available midfielder and we are set! Every possibility we may trade this pick for a player like Adams/Longer. We were willing to move on the Vlastuin pick (#9) for Tyson last season.

GET IT DONE RICHMOND!
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Penelope on September 18, 2013, 08:09:42 AM
Taylor adams lasting to the fourth round in the ND?

Torch you need to either reduce the amount of drugs you take or increase it.
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 18, 2013, 08:55:34 AM
Always go for the increase, it's a win win
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 18, 2013, 10:20:42 AM
Well it looks like Leppa might be heading home as well to be senior assistant at Brisbane

Monaghan has already gone

So if Dusty goes too, tigers will have plenty of loose change which they will need to finance their VFL operations with extra coaches and players  :rollin

Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 18, 2013, 10:36:01 AM
Andy Collins coming home from SA :shh
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 18, 2013, 11:49:19 AM
Andy Collins coming home from SA :shh

Yeah saw that rumour on Twitter via Mark Riccuito

If Andy Collins was to come back it would be to coach our VFL side

But he Leppa goes (and I think he will) we will need another assistant, plus I reckon we could do with another coach in development
Title: Re: What should the Club do with the extra $500k in the cap if Dusty goes?
Post by: yellowandback on September 18, 2013, 05:43:48 PM
Taylor adams lasting to the fourth round in the ND?

Torch you need to either reduce the amount of drugs you take or increase it.

 :rollin