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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Golfprotiger on September 28, 2013, 08:40:23 PM

Title: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Golfprotiger on September 28, 2013, 08:40:23 PM
Ok, maybe the 17 beers consumed this arvo (more than likely) and the fact that I am saving myself for a Grand Final experience.

But when do you think we will be the team and are we heading in the right direction?

I think we are!!!!!!  :gotigers

 :cheers
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: bojangles17 on September 28, 2013, 09:15:35 PM
Lets see how we get through the trade period and draft relative to other contenders. At this point not too bloody far just quietly, how far will be told in incoming weeks :shh
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 28, 2013, 09:20:08 PM
Two years at least. We made finals this year on the back of a soft draw yet we defeated both grand  finalists. Losing the first final was a reality check, we have quite a bit of maturing to do.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 28, 2013, 09:23:18 PM
Hopefully before I turn 50  :rollin
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 28, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
When we upgrade on a fair few players
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Damo on September 28, 2013, 10:23:44 PM
4712 AR.

That is 4712 (after richo).

4712 years from now there will be no god, no Geez Geez .. all will hail Richo

At least he existed .. seems as good a reason as any

So yeah, its a fair while away by my calculations

Maybe its the 9 VB cans and 7 jimmy cans talking

Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 28, 2013, 10:27:46 PM
Hopefully before I turn 50  :rollin
Are you 26, WP?
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Darth Tiger on September 29, 2013, 08:08:18 AM
Need to win 1 final first, then a second, and then a third.

Oh and all in the same series ....

Not even close to being a big game finals hardened outfit yet, long way to go.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 29, 2013, 09:03:12 AM
As Hawthorn showed in 2008, the Crows in 97,etc anything can happen.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: WA Tiger on September 29, 2013, 09:21:10 AM
If we can't keep our players........never :-\
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Penelope on September 29, 2013, 09:25:34 AM
and how do we keep our middle tier players if we pay a small number of players excessive amounts and run out of salary cap space?
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 29, 2013, 09:49:56 AM
And when the AFL rules stipulate that you must take a certain number of players at each national draft?
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: WA Tiger on September 29, 2013, 09:52:23 AM
and how do we keep our middle tier players if we pay a small number of players excessive amounts and run out of salary cap space?

Well we have done it before. Actually we have always done it.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: eliminator on September 29, 2013, 09:57:41 AM
Two years at least. We made finals this year on the back of a soft draw yet we defeated both grand  finalists. Losing the first final was a reality check, we have quite a bit of maturing to do.

agree
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on September 29, 2013, 10:10:16 AM
and how do we keep our middle tier players if we pay a small number of players excessive amounts and run out of salary cap space?

Well we have done it before. Actually we have always done it.
And that is why we have been 33 years without a flag.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: MintOnLamb on September 29, 2013, 10:12:48 AM
Two years at least. We made finals this year on the back of a soft draw yet we defeated both grand  finalists. Losing the first final was a reality check, we have quite a bit of maturing to do.

agree
Until we can play with the intensity on display by the hawks yesterday across our whole playing group for 4 quarters, we can't even consider a flag
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Willy on September 29, 2013, 10:30:44 AM
Yep, two years for me too. I think we have the core now. Just need more time to develop that consistent intensity.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: TigerMonk on September 29, 2013, 11:11:20 AM
its open anytime, Just need a good year with limited injuries going into the finals. Money don't buy premierships.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Penelope on September 29, 2013, 11:45:37 AM
and how do we keep our middle tier players if we pay a small number of players excessive amounts and run out of salary cap space?

Well we have done it before. Actually we have always done it.

LMAO.
amazing, truly amazing.
you have just exceeded all expectations.
 :lol
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on September 29, 2013, 11:58:37 AM
Next year is the year of the Tiger  :cheers

Round 1 Best 22:

B  - Grimes. Chaplin. Morris.
HB -Shaw. Rance. Vlastuin.
C  - Ellis. Cotchin. Deledio.
HF - Knights. Vickery. Conca
F  - Longer. Riewoldt. Chapman.
OB - Maric. Martin. Adams.
I  - Arnott. Houli. Foley.
+1 - White
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: cub on September 29, 2013, 12:26:45 PM
In reality we make and win 1-2 finals next year then it's game on 2015....2020 odd
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on September 29, 2013, 01:54:16 PM
Yep, two years for me too. I think we have the core now. Just need more time to develop that consistent intensity.

So is that 2016 ?
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 29, 2013, 02:51:22 PM
Hopefully before I turn 50  :rollin
Are you 26, WP?

I wish  ;D

Less than a decade to go til 50  ;D
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: TigerMonk on September 29, 2013, 02:56:35 PM
Hopefully before I turn 50  :rollin
Are you 26, WP?

I wish  ;D

Less than a decade to go til 50  ;D

poor old thing  ;D
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 29, 2013, 03:01:33 PM
Hopefully before I turn 50  :rollin
Are you 26, WP?

I wish  ;D

Less than a decade to go til 50  ;D

poor old thing  ;D

Yep getting old  :rollin
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: yellowandback on September 29, 2013, 07:20:28 PM
Excuse me for asking WP but if you are under 50 then why do you have a pic of Clarke Gable as your avatar?
I thought you'd be 160 with that thing
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Gigantor on September 29, 2013, 07:30:51 PM
Hmmm I don't think its clark cable is it?
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 29, 2013, 07:51:22 PM
Excuse me for asking WP but if you are under 50 then why do you have a pic of Clarke Gable as your avatar?
I thought you'd be 160 with that thing

Not quite born in 1892 so that makes WP 121 by my reckoning. ;D
Maybe WP was hoping for a flag before turning 150 and made a typo so that takes us to having our premiership window in 2042. :-\
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: wayne on September 30, 2013, 09:20:28 AM
Next year  :shh

B: Grimes - Rance - Morris
HB: Shaw - Chaplin - Houli
C: Adams - Vlastuin - Ellis
HF: Knights - N. Riewoldt - McDonough
F: McBean - Riewoldt - Vickery
R: Maric - Cotchin - Deledio
Int: Longer - Thomas - Jackson - S. Edwards
Sub: Grigg

 :shh Just quietly, WOW!
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 30, 2013, 10:27:00 AM
Excuse me for asking WP but if you are under 50 then why do you have a pic of Clarke Gable as your avatar?
I thought you'd be 160 with that thing

 ;D

Hmmm I don't think its clark cable is it?

Correct it isn't Clake Gable it is the late and great Willam Powell, most famous for "the Thin Man" series of movies in the 1930's - 1940's

He does have somthing in common with Clarke Gable both gentlemen were married to Carole Lombard
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: the claw on September 30, 2013, 11:16:51 AM
and how do we keep our middle tier players if we pay a small number of players excessive amounts and run out of salary cap space?
i think the question should be are our middle tier and lower tier players worth what they get. is giving them multiple yr contracts killing us.

lets look at martin. without a doubt he is worth 500k a season.  they arguing for more why not put kpis into his contract. if they are met he gets his 500k if he partially meets them he gets a percentage. how hard is it. finish top 3 in the b&f  theres 30k bonus.  ave 25plus possesions a game theres 20 k kick 40 goals theres 20k. if he attained these types of kpis he would be worth every penny of the 600k hes asking for.

a bloke like king would free up 300k white would free up another 150-200k  tucky would have freed up 300 - 350k  force newman into retirement theres 350-400k mcguane should be on 250k plus
nahas would be on 200k.

these blokes could be on more given the afl average which is staggeringly high.

i can see no reason why we could not throw the kitchen sink at longer and adams and still have plenty left to offer a great player lke chapman a contract if we made just one or two difficult choices.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Penelope on September 30, 2013, 02:03:36 PM
sotaking into account that those players have to be relpaced so we will not fre up the figures you have guessed, next season we go to close to 100% TPP?
how do we get room to move as the younger players start to develop and demand more coin. Nor have you left much room for any further free agents. we would be pertually loosing middle tier players and there is no way we would be able to assemble the team of champions you strive for.

FWIW i dont think any player is worth more than 1/2 a mil a year, but we have already well and truly passed that threshold and there aint no going back, as obscene as it is.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on September 30, 2013, 06:51:05 PM
Will rfc be able kick as well as hawthorn ie. Defeat a zone?

Will our mids ever run as hard as swans to get behind the ball when required?

 Are we building a list to equal the great balance d Geelong dynasty?

Was is a mistake not tanking like collingwood?

 Very hard to win one.
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: Penelope on September 30, 2013, 06:54:06 PM
yes, very hard.you also need a fair share of luck
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: lamington on October 01, 2013, 05:35:27 PM
Will rfc be able kick as well as hawthorn ie. Defeat a zone?

Yes

Will our mids ever run as hard as swans to get behind the ball when required?

Looks doubtful

Are we building a list to equal the great balance d Geelong dynasty?

We are getting there IMO. Wouldn't mind Chapman if he isn't going to cost an arm/leg

Was is a mistake not tanking like collingwood?

I don't think so because tanking breeds crap culture. Carlton despite being one of our bogey sides has never really been close to make a GF either, and look at the wonders tanking did for Melbourne.

Very hard to win one.

I agree, but I don't think we are as far away as some people think. We could've beaten Carlton if Richo put on a jumper and ran to the goalsquare though :P
Title: Re: When will it be our turn for the Flag?
Post by: 1980 I Was There on October 01, 2013, 10:28:53 PM
Ok I'm back after that horrible loss in the finals and ready to go on with life again.

As for the next flag, it will depend a lot on how we keep the current team together.
After 2001, we lost a lot of good players to other clubs and some retirees which was pretty much due to the frickin stupid people who thought they knew what they were doing.

Anyway, I don't think that will happen again and I truly believe the depth of the current players is far better than in 2001 anyway.

So for that reason alone the next big one WILL BE 2014 or 2015 and who knows after that.

There are a few other reasons, but cant be stuffed typin anymore  :lol

 :gotigers 2014