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Title: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: one-eyed on February 07, 2014, 06:58:42 PM
Height and weight gains/losses

No. Name  Height (gain/loss) Weight (gain/loss)

1. Newy           183         81
2. Grimes         193         89 (+1)
3. Lids             188         89 (+1)
4. Martin          187         90 (+1)
5. Ellis              181        84 (+3)
6. Grigg            190        86 (+1)
7. Dea              186        86 (-1)
8. Riewoldt        195        92 (-2)
9. Cotchin         185        85
10. S.Edwards   182        81 (-2)
11. Batchelor     188        88 (+1)
12. Astbury       195        95 (-1)
13. Petterd        185        85
14. Houli           180        84
15. Knights       184        84
16. Hampson     201      106
17.
18. Rance         194        96
19. Miles           179        78
20. I.Maric        200       102
21.
22. Banfield      183         83
23. Jackson      188         92
24. Griffiths      200       102 (-2)
25. Chaplin       195         97 (-2)
26. Thomas      186         87
27. A.Edwards  184         93
28. King           178         82
29. Vickery       200         98 (+1)
30. Conca        185         83
31. Vlastuin      187        86
32. Helbig         185        85
33. McIntosh     192        89 (+2)
34. McBean       202        93 (+7)
35. Lennon       188        77
36. McDonough 180        82 (-2)
37. Stephenson 200      104
38. Morris         185        83
39. Gordon       186        86
40. Williams      186        86
41. Foley          178        79
42. Lloyd          180        83
43. Elton          197      100 (+3)
44. Arnot         180        86
45. O'Hanlon     189        89
46.
47.
48. Darrou       190        97


Source: RFC website (change over past 12 months)
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: 1965 on February 07, 2014, 08:03:41 PM


McBean   :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 07, 2014, 08:17:36 PM
Edwards.... :banghead :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 07, 2014, 08:22:43 PM
Mcbean will be a monster when he gets to 110 kegs
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Penelope on February 07, 2014, 08:31:35 PM
Edwards put on weight before last season and went backwards.

Physical strength has never been, nor ever will be, a strength of his.

Agility is his best attribute, and you cant have bulk and agility.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 07, 2014, 08:31:54 PM
ELLIS, +3 and still has the endurance, whoa.... :clapping
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 07, 2014, 08:55:35 PM


McBean   :thumbsup

Was 84kg when drafted from memory. A gain of 9kg in total. Probably another 7kg to go. Any more and it might affect his agility and playing style.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 07, 2014, 08:57:10 PM
I see fat boy Mcdonahue lost some weight
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 07, 2014, 09:08:53 PM
Edwards put on weight before last season and went backwards.

Physical strength has never been, nor ever will be, a strength of his.

Agility is his best attribute, and you cant have bulk and agility.

OMFG.... :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Chuck17 on February 07, 2014, 09:27:12 PM
Big Boy McBean  :clapping
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Willy on February 07, 2014, 09:37:49 PM
McBeast   :bow
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: dwaino on February 07, 2014, 09:38:42 PM
McDarrou
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Penelope on February 07, 2014, 09:59:20 PM
Edwards put on weight before last season and went backwards.

Physical strength has never been, nor ever will be, a strength of his.

Agility is his best attribute, and you cant have bulk and agility.

OMFG.... :lol
please explain?
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: tdy on February 07, 2014, 10:13:10 PM
McDarrou
is mcdarrou too short for a kpp stuff
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Stripes on February 07, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Has Lennon or any of the new blokes put on weight since they have arrived at the club or are we only measuring increases across a year?
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: dwaino on February 07, 2014, 11:49:41 PM
McDarrou
is mcdarrou too short for a kpp stuff

Doesn't matter for someone that pushes the world down when he does push ups  :clapping
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 08, 2014, 05:30:51 AM
Edwards put on weight before last season and went backwards.

Physical strength has never been, nor ever will be, a strength of his.

Agility is his best attribute, and you cant have bulk and agility.

OMFG.... :lol
please explain?

Pretty sure he's saying massive bulk doesn't affect sprinters in the Olympics so it shouldn't affect Shane Edwards.
FFS can't you see that?
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 08, 2014, 07:09:14 AM
Edwards put on weight before last season and went backwards.

Physical strength has never been, nor ever will be, a strength of his.

Agility is his best attribute, and you cant have bulk and agility.

OMFG.... :lol
please explain?

Well...you had better let all other codes of sports know that one al, Rugby, UFC, Boxers, Olympians.....and you reckon my comments don't make sense.

There are some big framed sportspeople out there pal and they are extremely agile!!!!

BTW with or without his "bulk" :lol.......he has amounted to nothing more than a fill in player.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Penelope on February 08, 2014, 09:07:02 AM
seriously?

who is more agile? Garlett or cloke?

Some big men may be agile, for a big man, but smaller lighter framed players will generally run rings around them, literally, when it comes to agility.

simple laws of physics will tell you that more mass, that hardier it is to stop quickly and or change direction quickly.

@Hard Roar Tiger, not sure if you are taking the pee or not, but sprinters have speed, not agility. They run in a straight line from point A to B as fast as possible, which is not agility.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on February 08, 2014, 09:17:18 AM
Vickery slowly reaching 100kg  8)
Was hoping Grimes would be a couple of kilos more to handly some big forwards more.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 08, 2014, 09:33:31 AM
McBean now the same weight as McDustin Fletcher from McEssendon. Musnt be far off....
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Phil Mrakov on February 08, 2014, 09:36:26 AM
Vickery slowly reaching 100kg  8)
Was hoping Grimes would be a couple of kilos more to handly some big forwards more.

lol you want him to do a hammy every day ?
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: dwaino on February 08, 2014, 09:37:48 AM
Sure beats twice a day.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: gerkin greg on February 08, 2014, 10:30:38 AM
McSalad fingers  :clapping
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: dwaino on February 08, 2014, 11:25:33 AM
McSalad fingers  :clapping

Tastes like McSoot and poo.  :clapping
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 08, 2014, 01:36:23 PM
Vickery slowly reaching 100kg  8)
Was hoping Grimes would be a couple of kilos more to handly some big forwards more.

Thats McGrimes you mean
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Diocletian on February 08, 2014, 02:05:59 PM
Edwards put on weight before last season and went backwards.

Physical strength has never been, nor ever will be, a strength of his.

Agility is his best attribute, and you cant have bulk and agility.

Shank only ever adds weight/muscle to his arms and upper body. Still has the same chicken legs he's always had.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on February 08, 2014, 05:11:00 PM
seriously?

who is more agile? Garlett or cloke?

Some big men may be agile, for a big man, but smaller lighter framed players will generally run rings around them, literally, when it comes to agility.

simple laws of physics will tell you that more mass, that hardier it is to stop quickly and or change direction quickly.

@Hard Roar Tiger, not sure if you are taking the pee or not, but sprinters have speed, not agility. They run in a straight line from point A to B as fast as possible, which is not agility.
All good Al  :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Andyy on February 08, 2014, 11:48:00 PM
Elton 197/100.
Darrou 190/97.

Wouldn't mind seeing these dudes play in the NAB. Sounds like they have some bulk now. And will be interested to see if Griffiths and Astbury have progressed at all or if it's all just stuff.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: yellowandback on February 09, 2014, 06:16:45 AM
I'd like to know when we last had 6 players on our list over 200cms - we might see 4 of them in the side at once this year with Hampson, Vickery,McBean/Griffs and Maric all looking like options.

Wonder if Foley or Kingy have ever been shortest on our list before?

We look tall for the first time in a few years  :thumbsup
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Stripes on February 09, 2014, 09:14:29 AM
I'd like to know when we last had 6 players on our list over 200cms - we might see 4 of them in the side at once this year with Hampson, Vickery,McBean/Griffs and Maric all looking like options.

Wonder if Foley or Kingy have ever been shortest on our list before?

We look tall for the first time in a few years  :thumbsup

Plus they are no lumbering giants either. Hampson, Vickery, Griffiths and McBean are all relatively quick and agile.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 09, 2014, 09:56:26 AM
I'd like to know when we last had 6 players on our list over 200cms - we might see 4 of them in the side at once this year with Hampson, Vickery,McBean/Griffs and Maric all looking like options.

Wonder if Foley or Kingy have ever been shortest on our list before?

We look tall for the first time in a few years  :thumbsup

Plus they are no lumbering giants either. Hampson, Vickery, Griffiths and McBean are all relatively quick and agile.

Particularly Vick's, especially at ground level.....who would think eh, big and versatile...well I never... :whistle
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Penelope on February 09, 2014, 12:24:08 PM
2m tall midfielders? woweee
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 09, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
2m tall midfielders? woweee

3 and proves your point was invalid.. :wallywink
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Penelope on February 09, 2014, 04:11:20 PM
we have 3m tall players on the list?
double wowee!

and they play midfield?

Oh my! too much, too much!

Excitement. Very much, much.

Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 09, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
we have 3m tall players on the list?
double wowee!

and they play midfield?

Oh my! too much, too much!

Excitement. Very much, much.

Well times that by all the other teams and bigger bodied players in the comp and it blows your pathetic theory out of the water..


Hate it when you are wrong don't you...now back to point 2...????
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 09, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
 :banghead :banghead

SNIP!!! enough with the personal insults stick to discussing/debating the topic
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Penelope on February 09, 2014, 05:53:15 PM
Ok lets just this straight WAT

Not only do you believe that increasing body mass will not affect a persons ability to stop and change directions quickly, you think that it is ludicrous to even think it will, and anyone that does believe that is an idiot?



Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: the claw on February 09, 2014, 08:34:06 PM
I'd like to know when we last had 6 players on our list over 200cms - we might see 4 of them in the side at once this year with Hampson, Vickery,McBean/Griffs and Maric all looking like options.

Wonder if Foley or Kingy have ever been shortest on our list before?

We look tall for the first time in a few years  :thumbsup

Plus they are no lumbering giants either. Hampson, Vickery, Griffiths and McBean are all relatively quick and agile.

Particularly Vick's, especially at ground level.....who would think eh, big and versatile...well I never... :whistle
but can they mark or even dominate in the air by competeing.
 im still asking,  if theres one proven ruckman there in maric, how many 200cm plus key forwards have been succesful. and what attributes makes for a succesful key forward. if i wanted quick and agile and decent at ground level id recruit a small. these attributes are only really worth something if they can combine them with the attributes needed to perform their primary role first.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 09, 2014, 08:39:37 PM
Ok lets just this straight WAT

Not only do you believe that increasing body mass will not affect a persons ability to stop and change directions quickly, you think that it is ludicrous to even think it will, and anyone that does believe that is an idiot?

Ok, let's al.

Here is your original post I commented on:

"Edwards put on weight before last season and went backwards.

Physical strength has never been, nor ever will be, a strength of his.

Agility is his best attribute, and you cant have bulk and agility."

Edwards put on weight and went backwards ? When the hell was he ever forwards. He could put on 10kg or lose 10kg and it wouldn't affect his agility, it doesn't affect all players, end of story and over the years do you honestly think it's affected Edwards. I have heard very excuse for Edwards over the years and this one pretty well topped them all. Richo was agile, Carey was agile! Cameron is agile, there are many players in the AFL that are big or who have bulked up that have kept their agility, likewise many other sports people.....this had nothing to do with Edwards poor form, now that's only my opinion.

I will take injury as a reason that's affects agility, Nathan Brown for example...

Anyway mate, that's just my thoughts.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Penelope on February 09, 2014, 08:49:02 PM
all those big blokes are agile for a big man, it's all relative.
their agility will not match a that of an agile small.

the more you bulk up, the more likely it is to affect your agility.

it a pretty straight forward concept.

as for the comment about edwards going forward, even you acknowledged he played some good footy in 2012, and what he produced last year was not to that standard, was it not? so he went backwards.

Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 09, 2014, 08:52:31 PM
all those big blokes are agile for a big man, it's all relative.
their agility will not match a that of an agile small.

the more you bulk up, the more likely it is to affect your agility.

it a pretty straight forward concept.

as for the comment about edwards going forward, even you acknowledged he played some good footy in 2012, and what he produced last year was not to that standard, was it not? so he went backwards.

He did go backwards I am not sure we can put it down to agility though, all his career he just seems to be one or two games off really nailing it, he just never has.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: the claw on February 09, 2014, 09:39:16 PM
reckon shane eswards played at his optimum in 2012. trouble is his optimum is average. any drop away at all and he becomes mediocre. ffs we have had 7 yrs to be able to come to this assesment.
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 09, 2014, 09:52:13 PM
reckon shane eswards played at his optimum in 2012. trouble is his optimum is average. any drop away at all and he becomes mediocre. ffs we have had 7 yrs to be able to come to this assesment.

Agree mate!
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: tigs2011 on February 10, 2014, 10:38:38 AM
reckon shane eswards played at his optimum in 2012. trouble is his optimum is average. any drop away at all and he becomes mediocre. ffs we have had 7 yrs to be able to come to this assesment.

Agree mate!
I always thought you were an Edwards fan WAT. What happened?  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 10, 2014, 11:20:55 AM
reckon shane eswards played at his optimum in 2012. trouble is his optimum is average. any drop away at all and he becomes mediocre. ffs we have had 7 yrs to be able to come to this assesment.

Agree mate!
I always thought you were an Edwards fan WAT. What happened?  ;D

 :lol ;)....I did what I said, I stuck to my word, I supported him without criticism....again though I hope he has a great year but FFS, I have been saying that for 7 years now....WHEN SHANE, WHEN??? :-\
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: gerkin greg on February 10, 2014, 11:41:02 AM
Why not just accept that he is a role playing foot soldier who will tease on occasion, that great heights are beyond him, and move on? You're no different to Shane, same thing every year  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Dice on February 10, 2014, 12:21:36 PM
:lol ;)....I did what I said, I stuck to my word, I supported him without criticism....again though I hope he has a great year but FFS, I have been saying that for 7 years now....WHEN SHANE, WHEN??? :-\

I will come back to this thread in about another 35 pages when something sensible actually gets talked about instead of just utter crap!!!!

Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 10, 2014, 12:58:14 PM
 ::) :whistle
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: Yeahright on February 10, 2014, 07:31:36 PM
Needs to play forward not midfield. Oh and if bulk didn't effect agility why don't we recruit this guy and use him as a high half forward?
(http://www.activeliving.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Body-Builder1.jpg)


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Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: tony_montana on February 10, 2014, 08:38:16 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: gerkin greg on February 10, 2014, 10:51:54 PM
 :lol :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: 🏅Dooks on February 10, 2014, 11:31:01 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Playing List Heights & Weights
Post by: WA Tiger on February 11, 2014, 07:10:03 AM
 :lol :lol :lol :lol