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Shane Crawford explains why he thinks Richmond will beat Carlton next week
Herald-Sun
March 23, 2014
LOOK up “pressure” in the dictionary this week and you would be forgiven for thinking you might stumble across mention of the Richmond and Carlton football clubs.
There were other clubs to feel the Round 1 cauldron — that means you Collingwood, Sydney and North Melbourne.
But the heat already on the Tigers and the Blues is set to escalate to even higher levels when the two old rivals fight it out in Thursday night’s blockbuster return to the MCG.
The attention will be inescapable. The pressure on the loser of this match will be intense. And, as early as it is in season 2014, the game might be the difference between playing finals and being also-rans.
For me, Richmond is the team capable of responding better to the challenge this week and putting itself back in the finals frame.
Here are five reasons why I believe the Tigers will account for the Blues in what is already looming as a critical game for both sides.
1. CARLTON’S SHAKY BACK HALF WILL STRUGGLE WITH RIEWOLDT AND VICKERY
If the Blues couldn’t contain Justin Westhoff and the Port Adelaide forwards last week, what hope have they got of stopping Jack Riewoldt and Ty Vickery? The Tigers’ forward double act was not on song against the Suns, but keeping them quiet two weeks in a row won’t be easy. Richmond had plenty of the ball against Gold Coast, but the big men up front could not quite manage to get the job done. Vickery had plenty of chances, but kicked only two goals, and Riewoldt was out of sorts. A return to the MCG will suit both of them and that could spell bad news for the likes of Matthew Watson and Michael Jamison, as well as for Blues fans.
2. HAMPSON’S INSIDE KNOWLEDGE WILL HELP
Shaun Hampson could be the most important Tiger going into this match. He would know the Blues’ structure and exactly what Mick Malthouse has been trying to get them to do over the past year and a bit, and I’m tipping Tigers coach Damien Hardwick will milk it for all it’s worth. Just look at what happened last week. Leon Cameron used to forwards coach at Hawthorn and he used his inside knowledge of Buddy Franklin to ensure the young Giants defenders did their best to get him off his game. It worked. You could see it from the start, when Phil Davis tried to work him over physically. We also saw it with Shane Mumford using what he knew of the Swans to the advantage of his new side.
3. WHAT HAPPENED LAST SEPTEMBER STILL BURNS DEEP
Carlton has had the wood on Richmond in recent years and the Blues’ performance to win last year’s elimination final will have sat sickeningly in the Tigers’ stomach ever since. It would have driven them over the pre-season and the chance to get one back on the Blues will be an important driving factor. Hardwick would have used it over the summer months. Revenge can be a more powerful driving force than some people imagine, and the Tigers will not be lacking any motivation.
4. CARLTON’S LACK OF FITNESS IN RUNNING OUT GAMES
Mick Malthouse said it all last week — the Blues ran out of gas at the business end against Port Adelaide because the team is not where it wants to be fitness wise. Leaving aside the many operations that team memberssurgeries Carlton players had over the summer, the fact remains they stopped almost to a walk against the Power. Carlton had only a handful of tackles in the final term and was completely overrun by a fitter, more determined team. I always found that if you are not fit at this early stage of the season, you are going to struggle. You don’t get fitter during the season. If anything, it can drop off. For mine, the Tigers will outrun the Blues when it matters most.
5. BETTER STRUCTURES, AND A COACH GIVING HIS PLAYERS A GOOD PROD
Richmond seems to have a better balanced, more structured team at the moment, with a good understanding of how Hardwick wants them to play. I’m not saying that’s not the case at Carlton. It’s just that the Blues are still coming to terms with what Mick Malthouse wants them to do. Also, Hardwick put the acid back on some of the players he was disappointed with last week. It was an unusual tactic for a man who almost always limits criticisms to the team, not the individual. But when he mentioned the likes of Brandon Ellis and Reece Conca as players who needed to lift, and talked about what Riewoldt and Vickery must bring, you got a sense of how frustrated he was with the efforts of some. That makes me things they are good things to beat Carlton.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/shane-crawford-explains-why-he-thinks-richmond-will-beat-carlton-next-week/story-fndv8t7m-1226862091874
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The only thing IMO that would go in our favor is if Carlton go in thinking because they've managed to come back strong late the last few times they'll be able to again and just expect it to happen.
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they seem to run out games very well against us
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No walker, carazzo and judd will help.
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Carrazzo is a chance to come back, had a VFL run but depends how he pulls up.
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I'm gonna call it now.... If we can't beat a very ordinary Carton team , who were even more pathetic than us last week it's going to be a long and depressing winter.
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I'm gonna call it now.... If we can't beat a very ordinary Carton team , who were even more pathetic than us last week it's going to be a long and depressing winter.
I hear ya Matt. Truth is we could still claw our way back into the season even if we lose. Will need to string together 3 or 4 wins in a row BUT.... having said that , WE HAVE TO WIN !
All the talk from the club pre season about redemption ( and there was plenty of it ) needs to be backed up this week.
Time to stand up. No excuses !
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Maybe we should merge this thread intO the no excuses thread?
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Betts is usually who carves us up on the end if some Judd hatd ball gets.
Them missing is why we COULD win
There's more reason how we could lose but u all know them anyway.
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Mentally they will be super confident and believe their inside knowledge of Hampson will help them win the stoppage battle. I can't see it clicking for Vickery and Jack this week but if King is playing I will feel more confident.
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No walker, carazzo and judd will help.
Or Eddie betts or Duigan ::)
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Simpson always pants us
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If we can't beat Carlton without Judd......meltdown will occur!
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If we lose this week I will begin to seriously question Dimma.
There really is no excuse
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A part of me wants it to happen so I can just get on with it and avoid the roller coaster. However most of me will accept nothing short of a win.
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By Thursday evening we will truly see how much "the worst loss in our history" hurt them.
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of the over enthusiasm of our finals appearance last season. As good as our wins were, ALL the good was destroyed and made nought at that one loss to the 9th place cheating scum.
Rest assured, if the boys can't end the game winners I suspect that our beloved forum may just blow up. It may be the end of me too, we'll have wait & see.
I hope the boys harden up for this game and don't make a mockery of our jumper all over again.
I'm sick of being the laughing stock and I'm sick of softy footy.
......And I hate the Cheating Scum!
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Merely making finals is only considered a grand achievment in itself at Richmond....for every other club it's simply a matter of course at least every few years or so...finishing a minimum of 8th in reality is not that hard and is certainly not the sporting Everest it's come to represent for us - you don't really even have to be that good a side to do it....
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We will lose there's no more certainty in life other than taxes
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We will lose there's no more certainty in life other than taxes
Death?
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I believe that one of the reasons why both Carlton and Tigers lost their opening games was because they have spent more time preparing for this game than their first round clash. I hope the Tigers brains trust has an answer to the Blues sling-shot play which forces us into a panic and allows then to run over us as the game wears on. :pray Players like Judd make a difference but it is the belief and confidence that the Blues players must have over us that really makes the difference. Malthouse has a fantastic record over us too.
I am never confident playing the Blues and my hate for them is unequaled. :boxer
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Hope the players don't read this article
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I believe that one of the reasons why both Carlton and Tigers lost their opening games was because they have spent more time preparing for this game than their first round clash.
Struth you'd hope that wasn't the case
An indictment on both clubs even if remotely true.
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I believe that one of the reasons why both Carlton and Tigers lost their opening games was because they have spent more time preparing for this game than their first round clash.
Struth you'd hope that wasn't the case
An indictment on both clubs even if remotely true.
Indictment or not, I believe that this game means more to both clubs than their first games against Port & GC respectively. I think they would have done their homework but would have spent more of the off-season thinking about the Carlton v Richmond clash. Purely speculation on my behalf but our recent history, painful 2013 exit and player interviews is enough for me to suggest that that this could be the case.
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We will lose there's no more certainty in life other than taxes
Death?
Immortals. Death would be less painful than the certainty of losing to Carlton. ;D
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I believe that one of the reasons why both Carlton and Tigers lost their opening games was because they have spent more time preparing for this game than their first round clash.
Struth you'd hope that wasn't the case
An indictment on both clubs even if remotely true.
Indictment or not, I believe that this game means more to both clubs than their first games against Port & GC respectively. I think they would have done their homework but would have spent more of the off-season thinking about the Carlton v Richmond clash. Purely speculation on my behalf but our recent history, painful 2013 exit and player interviews is enough for me to suggest that that this could be the case.
Again, I would say I hope your theory isn't remotely close to the truth Stripes.
Every H&A game is important, they are worth exactly the same thing whether it's a game -v- GC, Carlton or Hawthron and that is 4 points. And those 4 points for a win means you have to get enough of them to get to September. I don't think any club let alone ours can take an attitude at the start of the season that one game is more important than any other. Simply we aren't that good (yet) and to think otherwise is foolish at best
Agree they would have been looking at how to beat Carlton but they'd also be looking at how to beat N0rt, Geelong, C'wood; teams we've struggled against too.
The club was very clear in their message that getting off to a "fast" start regarding wins was important to us. To suggest that the Club put more planning into beating the Blues before playing the GC goes directly against everything they've been preaching in the pre-season (IMVHO)
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I believe that one of the reasons why both Carlton and Tigers lost their opening games was because they have spent more time preparing for this game than their first round clash.
Struth you'd hope that wasn't the case
An indictment on both clubs even if remotely true.
Indictment or not, I believe that this game means more to both clubs than their first games against Port & GC respectively. I think they would have done their homework but would have spent more of the off-season thinking about the Carlton v Richmond clash. Purely speculation on my behalf but our recent history, painful 2013 exit and player interviews is enough for me to suggest that that this could be the case.
Again, I would say I hope your theory isn't remotely close to the truth Stripes.
Every H&A game is important, they are worth exactly the same thing whether it's a game -v- GC, Carlton or Hawthron and that is 4 points. And those 4 points for a win means you have to get enough of them to get to September. I don't think any club let alone ours can take an attitude at the start of the season that one game is more important than any other. Simply we aren't that good (yet) and to think otherwise is foolish at best
Agree they would have been looking at how to beat Carlton but they'd also be looking at how to beat N0rt, Geelong, C'wood; teams we've struggled against too.
The club was very clear in their message that getting off to a "fast" start regarding wins was important to us. To suggest that the Club put more planning into beating the Blues before playing the GC goes directly against everything they've been preaching in the pre-season (IMVHO)
agree WP, would be stunned if one or both clubs were thinking along those lines. Its 2014 not 1980
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I believe that one of the reasons why both Carlton and Tigers lost their opening games was because they have spent more time preparing for this game than their first round clash.
Struth you'd hope that wasn't the case
An indictment on both clubs even if remotely true.
Indictment or not, I believe that this game means more to both clubs than their first games against Port & GC respectively. I think they would have done their homework but would have spent more of the off-season thinking about the Carlton v Richmond clash. Purely speculation on my behalf but our recent history, painful 2013 exit and player interviews is enough for me to suggest that that this could be the case.
Again, I would say I hope your theory isn't remotely close to the truth Stripes.
Every H&A game is important, they are worth exactly the same thing whether it's a game -v- GC, Carlton or Hawthron and that is 4 points. And those 4 points for a win means you have to get enough of them to get to September. I don't think any club let alone ours can take an attitude at the start of the season that one game is more important than any other. Simply we aren't that good (yet) and to think otherwise is foolish at best
Agree they would have been looking at how to beat Carlton but they'd also be looking at how to beat N0rt, Geelong, C'wood; teams we've struggled against too.
The club was very clear in their message that getting off to a "fast" start regarding wins was important to us. To suggest that the Club put more planning into beating the Blues before playing the GC goes directly against everything they've been preaching in the pre-season (IMVHO)
It has been more of a focus for player if my conversation with one of them over the preseason is anything to go by :shh
And again I would suggest that the first game of the year clubs tend to put more planning and focus on than other games. This is typically due to the fact that it is the first real hit out after a long pre-season (signalling the end or accumulation of months of preparation) and the sheer percentage of time that coaches have to prepare compared to other games. This year the Gold Coast was our official first game but the reality is that we have been more focused on the Blues game as it is now out traditional yardstick. If the game was played further into the season I think the focus would have shifted as you say.
Anyway it was just one player but the motivation was definitely clear lets say.
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And again I would suggest that the first game of the year clubs tend to put more planning and focus on than other games. This is typically due to the fact that it is the first real hit out after a long pre-season (signalling the end or accumulation of months of preparation) and the sheer percentage of time that coaches have to prepare compared to other games. This year the Gold Coast was our offical first game but the reality is that we have been more focused on the Blues game (this comes straight from a players mouth). Additionally Dimma stated quite publicly that we were focused on starting the season off well.
Anyway it was just one player but the motivation was definitely clear lets say.
Yep Dimma said we needed to start the season off well and the season starts in round 1 not round 2 so..... the focus/planning leading into round 1 should have been round 1 not who we played in round 2
Re the bits highlighted:
Again if this is true and I am not doubting what you got told then is an even greater indictment not only on the player for saying it publicly ::) but also our entire footy dept for jumping ahead of themselves (as I said we aint that good). Round 1 was only and should have only ever been about the Suns not the Blues and should have been planned for accordingly.
Again just my take but if our main focus has been round 2 and Carlton then it is no great surprise we lost in round 1 and for the club's sake you can only hope that; that thinking doesn't come back to bite them when it matters at seasons end
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And again I would suggest that the first game of the year clubs tend to put more planning and focus on than other games. This is typically due to the fact that it is the first real hit out after a long pre-season (signalling the end or accumulation of months of preparation) and the sheer percentage of time that coaches have to prepare compared to other games. This year the Gold Coast was our offical first game but the reality is that we have been more focused on the Blues game (this comes straight from a players mouth). Additionally Dimma stated quite publicly that we were focused on starting the season off well.
Anyway it was just one player but the motivation was definitely clear lets say.
Yep Dimma said we needed to start the season off well and the season starts in round 1 not round 2 so..... the focus/planning leading into round 1 should have been round 1 not who we played in round 2
Re the bits highlighted:
Again if this is true and I am not doubting what you got told then is an even greater indictment not only on the player for saying it publicly ::) but also our entire footy dept for jumping ahead of themselves (as I said we aint that good). Round 1 was only and should have only ever been about the Suns not the Blues and should have been planned for accordingly.
Again just my take but if our main focus has been round 2 and Carlton then it is no great surprise we lost in round 1 and for the club's sake you can only hope that; that thinking doesn't come back to bite them when it matters at seasons end
I thought it was strange but understandable given the finals results. The players are understandably hurting over the loss and want to exact some payback. I am very curious how this plays out but, I'll concede that it may have played some part in the poor showing of the team last week.
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Hope the players don't read this article
Your absence was fun while it lasted.
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Whenever Groupie leaves OER to post at BF it increases the collective IQ of both boards.
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lmao