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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 15, 2014, 09:58:49 PM
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Richmond considers dropping underperforming forward Tyrone Vickery for clash with Brisbane at Gabba.
Jon Ralph
Herald Sun
April 15, 2014 5:44PM
RICHMOND forward Tyrone Vickery could be dumped for Richmond’s season-defining clash against Brisbane at the Gabba tomorrow night.
Vickery was subbed out at half-time against Collingwood despite being fully fit.
A series of lazy chasing efforts as the ball surged out of Richmond’s attack were pilloried as unacceptable by Lions great Michael Voss.
Vickery has kicked eight goals for the year but like Carlton’s Jarrad Waite could pay a heavy price for inconsistency and a lack of forward-line pressure.
The Tigers will train this morning at Punt Rd before flying to Brisbane, and while they might yet relent the brains trust has seriously considered changes to the forward make-up.
Hawthorn great Dermott Brereton last night told the Herald Sun Vickery’s goalkicking hid issues that might need “relearning” in the VFL.
“Tyrone kicked four against Carlton, but he didn’t kick them the way a key forward should,’’ Brereton said.
“Once he was 12m out and he had the ball kicked to him, once he marked it out the back and only once did he lead up and take a mark.
“He almost kicked them by accident. Consistency comes with workrate and he doesn’t have a good workrate.
“He wants to go to the contest and sneak out the back door. I think you need to relearn and re-educate yourself.”
Richmond could play with just Jack Riewoldt and Ben Griffiths as forward-line targets or bring in ruck Orren Stephenson to allow Shaun Hampson to spend some time forward.
Vickery and Steven Morris (shoulder) are both fit to play, but Brett Deledio (achilles), Ivan Maric (ankle) and Alex Rance (foot) are not yet ready to return.
A Tigers side lacking dash and excitement could bring in pacy midfielder Nathan Foley and defender Matt McDonough after they shone in the VFL.
Top draft pick Ben Lennon is being schooled as a defender and may make his AFL debut in coming weeks.
Richmond, with just one win from four games, must beat the depleted Brisbane to keep its season alive ahead of challenging clashes against Hawthorn and Geelong.
Coach Damien Hardwick yesterday turned up the heat on a misfiring midfield, demanding more goals from his onball brigade.
The Tigers have moved on from the controversy over Brent Macaffer’s tagging tactics on Trent Cotchin, with Hardwick more upset about the lack of reward over holding-the-ball decisions for his players.
“It was a disappointing result on the weekend, we just can’t seem to get our game up and going to the level we would have liked,’’ Hardwick told members in a video message.
“It has been a constant over the last two or three weeks. Collingwood flicked the switch but we couldn’t get the same result.
“The mids were equal with contested possession. The place where they hurt us on the scoreboard is we kicked 2.4 from the midfield and they kicked 9.3. (Scott) Pendlebury kicked three, (Dayne) Beams kicked three and Sidebottom kicked one or two.”
Hardwick said he was thrilled with the forward-line tackling of Matt Arnot and Sam Lloyd.
“Our tackling was pretty good. We had a lot of tackles but we are not getting our reward for holding-the-ball efforts,’’ he said.
“We are as disappointed as you are, and we have got no doubt we will eventually turn the corner, we just have to hang tough while we have Deledio, Rance and Maric out. We just have to keep developing talent and get some wins on the board.”
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/richmond-considers-dropping-underperforming-forward-tyrone-vickery-for-clash-with-brisbane-at-gabba/story-e6frf3e3-1226885613619
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We're schooling another junior champion HFF in defence….. :banghead
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Whoa. That'll teach him. Play at Willi this week and next week watch Josh Gibson up close. :help
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They're considering it.
stuffen off.
Drop grigg too fuckn poo man
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Says who? Jon Ralph?
What a revealing article. Not.
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If he is under performing then what's to consider, therein lies the problem with the RFC in a nutshell, accepting mediocrity. Underperforming players get dropped, simple as that, that then creates the culture we need which breeds success. Time to put some kids in rather than just trying to squeeze out unconvincing wins with proven spuds which simply glosses over the problems. But yes I also wonder where Ralph gets his information from.
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But yes I also wonder where Ralph gets his information from.
Usually his arz.
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We're schooling another junior champion HFF in defence….. :banghead
He played everywhere at junior level. I don't mind him back there. Provided it releases Flossy into the middle. Only so many spots back there.
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Believe it when it happens
And considering the HUN is sponsor for the RFC, I reckon Ralphy gets his info from the Club ;D
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We're schooling another junior champion HFF in defence….. :banghead
He played everywhere at junior level. I don't mind him back there. Provided it releases Flossy into the middle. Only so many spots back there.
I agree, release Flossy into the midfield. It's been terrible this year with Cotch our only genuine midfielder. Give one of our young guys a go at half back, Matty Dea when fit or McIntosh. Or even Conca, we all know he is underdone, why play him in the midfield?
Also drop Grigg and Houli, it's pretty obvious that we need to upgrade these blokes, no time like the present. And when you give a young fella a game, let them know that tackling and chasing is the only thing they will get marked on until further notice. You don't have to be an A grader to run and chase, that's what's the most frustrating thing for me this year. We have been lazy and that's not good enough four rounds into a season after a huge pre-season. Get back to basics Tigers. All most of us want is EFFORT!
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And considering the HUN is sponsor for the RFC, I reckon Ralphy gets his info from the Club ;D
Like they'd tell him everything I guess on that basis. ::)
Ralph has just put 2 and 2 together and written an article about it.
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Dropping Vickery is like the end of the world...and the beginning of a bright new day
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RFC See's vickery as collingwood see cloke or sydney see buddy... wont drop him because they think he is a champ.
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Too gutless, it's why we go no where! Along with everyone else it's why north have gone flying past us, same old same old.
The big girl wouldn't be guaranteed a touch in the twos, couple of other that have been passengers for to long also Grigg being one.....
We'll win Thursday, don't get too excited
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Says who? Jon Ralph?
What a revealing article. Not.
lol yeah.
So because Voss and Brereton have slammed Vickery, we're considering dropping him?? (I hope we are)
Ralphy is a stuffwit lol
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4 day turn around from the twos probably the only thing going for vickery this week.
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Says who? Jon Ralph?
What a revealing article. Not.
lol yeah.
So because Voss and Brereton have slammed Vickery, we're considering dropping him?? (I hope we are)
Ralphy is a stuffwit lol
The only thing from RFC in the article was Hardwick getting into the midfielders.
All he has done is had an educated guess as anyone that follows football could do
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Says who? Jon Ralph?
What a revealing article. Not.
lol yeah.
So because Voss and Brereton have slammed Vickery, we're considering dropping him?? (I hope we are)
Ralphy is a stuffwit lol
Just about the biggest pretender in the football media.
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Julian de Stoop from FoxSports news via his twitter account saying Vickery not on the plane to Brissie
Said Foleey, Lennon, Petterd and MacDonough are
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And considering the HUN is sponsor for the RFC, I reckon Ralphy gets his info from the Club ;D
Like they'd tell him everything I guess on that basis. ::)
Ralph has just put 2 and 2 together and written an article about it.
All footy clubs have a journo they give extra info too.
Ralphy is da man ;) ;D
:fishing
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Julian de Stoop from FoxSports news via his twitter account saying Vickery not on the plane to Brissie
Said Foley, Lennon, Petterd and MacDonough are
Why why why ?
stuff me !! He didn't get a stuffing kick 2 weeks ago. Injures his calf , misses a week and now he's on his way to Brisbane with the senior team. Why ? How does he walk into the team every bloody week ?? :banghead :banghead.
I realise the teams haven't been named yet but he shouldn't be anywhere the stuff near that plane.
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Pet Turd
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Julian de Stoop from FoxSports news via his twitter account saying Vickery not on the plane to Brissie
SEN also saying Vickery has been dropped. Sent back to the VFL side to regain his confidence.
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Who reckons he'll end up pulling a Mitch Clarke on us?
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Who reckons he'll end up pulling a Mitch Clarke on us?
Remember this post.
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Julian de Stoop from FoxSports news via his twitter account saying Vickery not on the plane to Brissie
Said Foley, Lennon, Petterd and MacDonough are
Why why why ?
stuff me !! He didn't get a stuffing kick 2 weeks ago. Injures his calf , misses a week and now he's on his way to Brisbane with the senior team. Why ? How does he walk into the team every bloody week ?? :banghead :banghead.
I realise the teams haven't been named yet but he shouldn't be anywhere the stuff near that plane.
Dice sees it :thumbsup
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Riewoldt to be decoy for Petterd this game.
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Who reckons he'll end up pulling a Mitch Clarke on us?
Trading him for pick 12 or the other thing?
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Who reckons he'll end up pulling a Mitch Clarke on us?
Trading him for pick 12 or the other thing?
Preferably the former, likelier the latter.
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Only Richmond supporters would find themselves irately discussing a topic like this.
It feels like Groundhog Day.
Why is there ALWAYS HUGE issues at this club?
It defies logic.
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If the Turd is picked then you may find him inside the forward 50 rather than defensive 50, helicopter kicks still manage to pass between the big sticks. Would rather see him kicking in the forward half rather than putting pressure on other players elsewhere on the ground with his poor disposal.
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Game is in the bag so resting our big guns for the following week :clapping
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If the Turd is picked then you may find him inside the forward 50 rather than defensive 50, helicopter kicks still manage to pass between the big sticks. Would rather see him kicking in the forward half rather than putting pressure on other players elsewhere on the ground with his poor disposal.
+1 one this. Jake King was a liability in defence but reinvented himself as a small forward because it's a lot easier to kick between 2 stationary sticks than to implement precision kicking out of defence. If the coaching staff really really really ridiculously want Petturd to play then it has to be in attack where a big up and under kick has less negative ramifications than a shoddy kick in the D50.
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Says who? Jon Ralph?
What a revealing article. Not.
lol. article was spot on. especially dermotts comments. in fact i reckon dermies reading my posts hhhaaarrrggghhhh. but hey what would dermie know about forward play anyway.
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Julian de Stoop from FoxSports news via his twitter account saying Vickery not on the plane to Brissie
Said Foleey, Lennon, Petterd and MacDonough are
if true why no elton. if no elton why no a edwards. and for gods sake why petterd arent they complaining about ball use and turnovers.
its almost like they are saying. yep we see the problems but we sure as hell aint gonna do anything about em.
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Game is in the bag so resting our big guns for the following week :clapping
thank god they have so many injuries eh, even then its a 50/50. for us nothing is in the bag.
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Says who? Jon Ralph?
What a revealing article. Not.
lol. article was spot on. especially dermotts comments. in fact i reckon dermies reading my posts hhhaaarrrggghhhh. but hey what would dermie know about forward play anyway.
Any muppet could have drawn that conclusion. Was hardly a revelation.
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Says who? Jon Ralph?
What a revealing article. Not.
lol. article was spot on. especially dermotts comments. in fact i reckon dermies reading my posts hhhaaarrrggghhhh. but hey what would dermie know about forward play anyway.
Any muppet could have drawn that conclusion. Was hardly a revelation.
Exactly
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Terrible decision, knee jerk garbage.
Weak clubs let external forces dictate selection.
This is the worst example of RFC lacking belief in itself since Richo was dropped for spraying team mates.
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What did he spray them with?
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Stag urine.
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Stag urine.
:lol
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What did he spray them with?
Deserved stuff.