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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 17, 2014, 10:47:04 PM
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Looks like we got through injury-free touchwood.
Fire away...
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Depends on who could come in.
Personally I'm not sure I'd change anything tonight. Despite being peeed off with Ellis, Houli, Shedwards, Petterd, Grigg and Newman.
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Have a feeling they will bring Vickery straight back in unless he gets injured or has a shocker in the VFL. Sheds wont go now that he kicked a couple, cant see Grigg going either. Couldnt drop Gordon, maybe the only change might be Sam Lloyd for King if they decide that its a better fit for a blockbuster atmosphere. Personally as much as tonight's game was nothing special i think we might pretty much stick with the same 22.
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Nothing will change!
Would like to see Grigg as the sub and give Gordon a full run.
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Nothing will change!
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wont matter Hawthorn will kill us next week if we dont improve 150%
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Out: kicking sideways, backwards, and 10 meters
In: Anything better than the above
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If the drop Lloyd for King I'll spew up.
Rance in for Chaplin
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Hopefully lids is available.
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Wont matter what changes happen. We are a 12 goal worse side at best at present. Anything under 70point defeat next week will be a bonus.
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Unlike us when we continually allow the blues to be our mental nemesis the hawks will use their recent poor form against us to lift to a new level, we will lose by 100 or more.
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Can't continue with non afl standard players.
Out:Grigg, Petterd, Thomas
In: McDonough, Foley, Deledio
The hawks made a big focus last year on our game after losing the year before. We smashed them both times. We must remove those 3 duds and play an attacking 22 to continue our good run against the hawks
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Seriously Grigg has to go.
If Dimma cannot see that than we are in more trouble than we think.
I'd get rid of Ellis and Houi too.
All three are as soft as butter and will not tackle, or stick a tackle in Houli's case.
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Grigg had the 2nd most possies for any tiger but his first 3 quarters were terrible. We're wasting our release player by playing him. He's hurting us and he should be dropped
Edwards was shizen for most of the game but his 2 goals at the pointy end were vital. He'll get a game nxt week on that alone...again
Dusty went missing for 2 qtrs but was vital early and late in the game....again
Didn't see Newman all game but he was crucial for about 15 mins in the 3rd qtr. Really needs to make way for a kid now
Petterd made some shocking errors.....again , but actually played ok early and late. :banghead
There's more but u get the gist. We only do it in patches and that's why we're a mid range team at the moment.
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Hardwick said both Alex Rance and Brett Deledio were a chance of playing against Hawthorn next weekend.
Source: Herald-Sun (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-kept-faith-despite-thirdquarter-richmond-wobble/story-fndv8t7m-1226888772774)
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In that case it would be
Out: Newman, Grigg
In: Deledio, Rance
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Nothing will change, why speculate, Hardwick thinks he has the winning formula now with this slow unskilled side. Get ready for a 100 point drubbing.
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Nothing will change, why speculate, Hardwick thinks he has the winning formula now with this slow unskilled side. Get ready for a 100 point drubbing.
I'm getting ready for a 150 point smashing to give room for some upside
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Nothing will change, why speculate, Hardwick thinks he has the winning formula now with this slow unskilled side. Get ready for a 100 point drubbing.
I'm getting ready for a 150 point smashing to give room for some upside
Yeah, might be a good idea.
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OUTS: Grigg, Ellis
INS: Deledio (if fit), Lennon and if Lids is not fit then bring back Foley at least he will tackle & chase unlike Mr Terrific, just Terriific TM Grigg
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OUTS: Grigg, Ellis
INS: Deledio (if fit), Lennon and I'd Lids is not fit then bring back Foley at least he will tackle & chase unlike Mr Terrific, just Terriific TM Grigg
Throw in Houli too, make a real statement to the players- if you don't tackle you don't play.
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I'd like to see a change of coach.
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If Lids and Rance return then I would suggest that Grimes and Thomas may be the casualties. I don't think Lids will be ready though
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I wouldn't drop Thomas for Hawthorn or Geelong. Will need bodies in the mid.
Grigg FFS...
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OUTS: Grigg, Ellis
INS: Deledio (if fit), Lennon and if Lids is not fit then bring back Foley at least he will tackle & chase unlike Mr Terrific, just Terriific TM Grigg
Grigg will retire one day and be on the outs list. :lol
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OUTS: Grigg, Ellis
INS: Deledio (if fit), Lennon and if Lids is not fit then bring back Foley at least he will tackle & chase unlike Mr Terrific, just Terriific TM Grigg
Grigg or Hardwick will retire one day and then he'll be on the outs list. :lol
Fixed.
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Vickery unlikely to win recall to Richmond.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/vickery-unlikely-to-win-recall-to-richmond-tigers/story-fnca0u4y-1226889470619
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I cant see any changes, Hardwick wont budge.
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Had a squizz at the replay yesterday. The last goal that Jono Brown kicked in the dying minutes was solely due to the softest pullout of a contest by Shaun Grigg you'll ever see. He could've easily chopped that kick off by showing just a smidgeon of courage. Woeful scared effort. Should be dropped on that incident alone.
Wish I had the gif. You blokes would get a good laugh.
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since when were the words Grigg and courage used in the same sentence.....Most here have known for a long time that hes not one of lifes volunteers
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Had a squizz at the replay yesterday. The last goal that Jono Brown kicked in the dying minutes was solely due to the softest pullout of a contest by Shaun Grigg you'll ever see. He could've easily chopped that kick off by showing just a smidgeon of courage. Woeful scared effort. Should be dropped on that incident alone.
Wish I had the gif. You blokes would get a good laugh.
Don't worry dice, that didn't go unnoticed amongst the supporter base around here ;D
That and the houli incident that dermie highlighted in the post game breakdown are just unacceptable and as long as incidents like that continue to go unpunished by the coaching staff, we will always be found wanting under the extreme heat of battle in finals or big games
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OUTS: Grigg, Ellis
INS: Deledio (if fit), Lennon and if Lids is not fit then bring back Foley at least he will tackle & chase unlike Mr Terrific, just Terriific TM Grigg
Grigg or Hardwick will retire one day and then he'll be on the outs list. :lol
Fixed.
:lol
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Deledio (if fit) in for Grigg would be a dream come true
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http://www.afl.com.au/video/smart-replay?round=CD_R201401405&matchId=CD_M20140140501
Replay of the game. Check the last BL goal and see the replay of the mark after the goal. Weak as by Grigg. Its when the game is dead and buried the real courage comes out. Grigg pulls out, pathetic.
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Deledio (if fit) in for Grigg would be a dream come true
Lennon - houli
Maric Hampson
Knights - Newman? Sedwards?
Chaplin - rance
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If Lids and Rance return then I would suggest that Grimes and Thomas may be the casualties. I don't think Lids will be ready though
Saw Rance at W'stwn today, still walking with a bit of limp, no way he'll be playing next week
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Deledio (if fit) in for Grigg would be a dream come true
Lennon - houli
Maric Hampson
Knights - Newman? Sedwards?
Chaplin - rance
Long odds any of those happening, what's houli done wrong, Maric knights and rance are still in recovery ward , all at least a fortnight away
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I would like to see Lennon get a shot in this game, maybe for Grigg or Edwards.
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Watching the saints game.. All their players are giving a huge effort defensively, running back and tackling ect. We need to bring in hungry young players like Lennon and McDonough
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Watching the seconds today has really scared me.What I saw was this cancer that's infected the seniors running through the whole club.The seconds are dishing up the same crap as the ones..We need to reverse this very soon
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Watching the saints game.. All their players are giving a huge effort defensively, running back and tackling ect. We need to bring in hungry young players like Lennon and McDonough
Yep, the youngsters we brought in have an appetite for hard work. More please.
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Had a squizz at the replay yesterday. The last goal that Jono Brown kicked in the dying minutes was solely due to the softest pullout of a contest by Shaun Grigg you'll ever see. He could've easily chopped that kick off by showing just a smidgeon of courage. Woeful scared effort. Should be dropped on that incident alone.
Wish I had the gif. You blokes would get a good laugh.
Don't worry dice, that didn't go unnoticed amongst the supporter base around here ;D
That and the houli incident that dermie highlighted in the post game breakdown are just unacceptable and as long as incidents like that continue to go unpunished by the coaching staff, we will always be found wanting under the extreme heat of battle in finals or big games
What was the Houli incident? I seen a couple not sure which one was picked up though
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Had a squizz at the replay yesterday. The last goal that Jono Brown kicked in the dying minutes was solely due to the softest pullout of a contest by Shaun Grigg you'll ever see. He could've easily chopped that kick off by showing just a smidgeon of courage. Woeful scared effort. Should be dropped on that incident alone.
Wish I had the gif. You blokes would get a good laugh.
Don't worry dice, that didn't go unnoticed amongst the supporter base around here ;D
That and the houli incident that dermie highlighted in the post game breakdown are just unacceptable and as long as incidents like that continue to go unpunished by the coaching staff, we will always be found wanting under the extreme heat of battle in finals or big games
What was the Houli incident? I seen a couple not sure which one was picked up though
The one where he was running at the ball from one side and the Brisbane player was coming from the opposite side like a head on collision, he chose to short step and follow another Brisbane player around the ball instead of going straight at it and wearing the hit, passed within 1-2 metres of the ball. Then Dermie showed vision of Vlastuin in the exact same circumstance going straight at the ball, wearing the hit to the body and dishing it off.
Houli did the same thing last week again with cloke coming head on, he pulled out and ran around him within 1-2 metres following his man instead of going when it was his turn. Ive been an unabashed fan of Houli, but these past 2 weeks those incidents have been unacceptable and are indicative of the culture of our side atm. Some Players don't go hard enough
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Had a squizz at the replay yesterday. The last goal that Jono Brown kicked in the dying minutes was solely due to the softest pullout of a contest by Shaun Grigg you'll ever see. He could've easily chopped that kick off by showing just a smidgeon of courage. Woeful scared effort. Should be dropped on that incident alone.
Wish I had the gif. You blokes would get a good laugh.
Don't worry dice, that didn't go unnoticed amongst the supporter base around here ;D
That and the houli incident that dermie highlighted in the post game breakdown are just unacceptable and as long as incidents like that continue to go unpunished by the coaching staff, we will always be found wanting under the extreme heat of battle in finals or big games
What was the Houli incident? I seen a couple not sure which one was picked up though
The one where he was running at the ball from one side and the Brisbane player was from the opposite side like a head on collision, he chose to short step and follow another Brisbane player around the ball instead of going straight at the ball and wearing the hit, passed within 1-2 metres of the ball instead of going straight at it. Then Dermie showed vision of Vlastuin in the exact same circumstance going straight at the ball wearing the body hit and dishing it off. Houli did the exact same thing last week with cloke coming head on, he pulled out and ran around him within 1-2 metres following his man instead of going when it was his turn. Ive been an unabashed fan of Houli, but these past 2 weeks those incidents have been unacceptable and are indicative of the culture of our side atm. Players don't go hard enough
Yeah that one was bad
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Had a squizz at the replay yesterday. The last goal that Jono Brown kicked in the dying minutes was solely due to the softest pullout of a contest by Shaun Grigg you'll ever see. He could've easily chopped that kick off by showing just a smidgeon of courage. Woeful scared effort. Should be dropped on that incident alone.
Wish I had the gif. You blokes would get a good laugh.
Don't worry dice, that didn't go unnoticed amongst the supporter base around here ;D
That and the houli incident that dermie highlighted in the post game breakdown are just unacceptable and as long as incidents like that continue to go unpunished by the coaching staff, we will always be found wanting under the extreme heat of battle in finals or big games
What was the Houli incident? I seen a couple not sure which one was picked up though
The one where he was running at the ball from one side and the Brisbane player was coming from the opposite side like a head on collision, he chose to short step and follow another Brisbane player around the ball instead of going straight at it and wearing the hit, passed within 1-2 metres of the ball. Then Dermie showed vision of Vlastuin in the exact same circumstance going straight at the ball, wearing the hit to the body and dishing it off.
Houli did the same thing last week again with cloke coming head on, he pulled out and ran around him within 1-2 metres following his man instead of going when it was his turn. Ive been an unabashed fan of Houli, but these past 2 weeks those incidents have been unacceptable and are indicative of the culture of our side atm. Some Players don't go hard enough
I sort of forgive him pulling out of a collision with a man mountain like Cloke but he has no excuse with any of the soft lions players bar Brown.
Houli is not a defender.
Because he can kick he is played down back. His position is wing or HF. He does lack the kamikaze courage needed as a pure defender. It's just not his gig.
Another example of players played out of position……
Waiting for Griff to head back to have a stint as FB again….. :banghead
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Last year I thought Houli made great strides in removing the faults from his game,but unfortunatly this year they have come back with interest
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Hawthorn play a brand of football we can go with. Roughhead is the danger man we must stop. Can Batch do the job ? l think he can with some support. l'm confident about this game. Its a game l can go through the turnstile & know we can win.
Bring in Kingy to lay out Rioli in the 1st few minutes & that alone will be priceless ;D
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Can't see any changes myself, maybe give lennon a go for Grigg but won't happen
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Hawthorn play a brand of football we can go with. Roughhead is the danger man we must stop. Can Batch do the job ? l think he can with some support. l'm confident about this game. Its a game l can go through the turnstile & know we can win.
Bring in Kingy to lay out Rioli in the 1st few minutes & that alone will be priceless ;D
Yeah, I hope Kingy gets a few more games for what I reckon will be his last year at Tigerland :(
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Hawthorn play a brand of football we can go with. Roughhead is the danger man we must stop. Can Batch do the job ? l think he can with some support. l'm confident about this game. Its a game l can go through the turnstile & know we can win.
Bring in Kingy to lay out Rioli in the 1st few minutes & that alone will be priceless ;D
Yeah, I hope Kingy gets a few more games for what I reckon will be his last year at Tigerland :(
Not if he is taking the spot of a youngster and at the same time not starring in the VFL.
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Would love to see Lennon in for Thomas, he s not req with arnot building his form
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Hawthorn play a brand of football we can go with. Roughhead is the danger man we must stop. Can Batch do the job ? l think he can with some support. l'm confident about this game. Its a game l can go through the turnstile & know we can win.
Bring in Kingy to lay out Rioli in the 1st few minutes & that alone will be priceless ;D
Yeah, I hope Kingy gets a few more games for what I reckon will be his last year at Tigerland :(
Not if he is taking the spot of a youngster and at the same time not starring in the VFL.
Having Kingy come in as a sub towards the end of a game and see him deck some bludger would be worth seeing him one more time :thumbsup
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Would love to see Lennon in for Thomas, he s not req with arnot building his form
:huh
Y not both
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leave the team the same. in fact rest a few of the kids i dont want to see them getting the blame when the massacre happens.
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The Barometer - Round 6
Herald-Sun
April 21, 2014
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: Matt Thomas is an interesting case. He again won the hard ball early on Thursday night but he was subbed out not long after half-time and the Tigers looked quicker and more lively with Nathan Gordon on the field. Sam Lloyd was quiet after starting his career in a blaze of glory but should be safe while Shane Edwards got his season going with two late goals. Dylan Grimes isn’t doing much wrong defensively but offers very little going the other way (averaging seven disposals a game this year) and could be in trouble when Alex Rance is fit.
ON THE CUSP: Top draft pick Ben Lennon is closing on an AFL debut after picking up 28 disposals and 16 marks playing across half-back in the VFL. Jake Batchelor (30 touches) played his best game of the year while Matt McDonough was again prominent. Rookie Anthony Miles was the VFL outfit’s top ball-winner but Ty Vickery kicked just one goal as the second-tier side went down to Williamstown by 70 points. Damien Hardwick said in his post-game press conference after the win against the Lions that Brett Deledio and Alex Rance could both play against the Hawks. Was he being optimistic?
AL PATON’S FORECAST: Anomaly or genuine bogey? Richmond has played Hawthorn once in each of the past two years and won both games, by 41 and 62 points. Sunday’s clash at the MCG will be a massive test but an extra four days to prepare and the possible return of two key players will add to the confidence gained by a seven-goal win at the Gabba. That game wasn’t pretty but the Tigers’ produced some link-up play through the middle that hasn’t been seen too often this season. A win would put the Tigers right back in the hunt — if Plough was still there you suspect this might be the match for which every player signs the Sherrin.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/the-barometer-find-out-whos-injured-and-whos-in-the-selection-mix-ahead-of-round-6-of-the-afl/story-fndv7pj3-1226891189970
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leave the team the same. in fact rest a few of the kids i dont want to see them getting the blame when the massacre happens.
Hawks are battling a little. I think we'll lose but I'm not so sure now we'll be massacred.
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Jon Ralph @RalphyHeraldSun twitter:
"A few newsy bits from @FOXFootyLive. Rance will still miss v Hawthorn next week as will Deledio, Morris a chance for Dogs"
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Rance broke his foot round 1, be surprised if he returns soon. Yet the club don't confirm it and had him listed as an omission..
I'm a bit worried about Lennon, he was the best kick in the draft camp and has a seriously good long leg. Our game style doesn't suit these sort of players, we don't create space where his long leg will be useful. I'm worried we'll bring him in and he'll be ask to keep possession and kick short and thats not what he was a first round pick for.
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Notice today how Geelong isolated their forwards so Hawthorn couldn't get a third man up in marking contests. No Josh Gibson coming in from the side. Do you think Dimma will try the same?
What I hope to happen is to have one of Jack, Dusty or Griffiths in the goal square for the entire game with the other forwards starting on the centre square line or wide in the pockets. And if they want to have someone sit in the hole, have someone decent in a pocket and actually use him a few times early. Make them be accountable and make them play one on one. Individually they can be beaten one on one but as a collective they work really well together. It's time for big Griff to stand up in one of these games. It's ok to have improved but he needs to take this game by the scruff of the neck.
Also we need to play on a lot more than we have. It's amazing what opens up when you run and create. We will turn it over at times but it's the thing that will get us going. Put people on notice too Dimma, let them know if you don't tackle and chase this week then next week you will be playing at Punt Rd.
We need to start well too, gets some scoreboard pressure on when we can. Play our good players where they can do the most damage. Cotch in the centre, resting forward, Dusty either at FF or short stints on the ball but make sure he is near goals most of the time. Jack one on one with some space to lead into, and if Lids plays, play him across half back, he will be underdone but could handle that roll. Play the kids and let their young legs run. Take risks, use the corridor and move the ball quickly and we may be a chance.
Just don't serve up what you have been.
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In the mix: round six
Nathan Schmook
April 22, 2014
RICHMOND
Prized draftee Ben Lennon increased pressure on the Tigers' match committee to blood him after a standout performance across half-back in the VFL. The No.12 draft pick racked up 28 possessions and 16 marks against Williamstown and is building strong form, with his precision kicking an asset the Tigers could use at AFL level. Forwards Ty Vickery and Jake King pushed their cases in the VFL but are unlikely to break back into the senior team this week. Tall target Liam McBean (three goals) was more impressive at VFL level, while Matt McDonough, Jake Batchelor and Brad Helbig are available.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-04-22/in-the-mix-round-six
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In the mix: round six
Nathan Schmook
April 22, 2014
RICHMOND
Forwards Ty Vickery and Jake King pushed their cases in the VFL but are unlikely to break back into the senior team this week.
He's kidding right?
the only case either "pushed" was for NOT getting a recall
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No idea
King is injured anyway
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In the mix: round six
Nathan Schmook
April 22, 2014
RICHMOND
Forwards Ty Vickery and Jake King pushed their cases in the VFL but are unlikely to break back into the senior team this week.
He's kidding right?
the only case either "pushed" was for NOT getting a recall
Heraldsun ran a story saying Vickery answered the call and put up his hand with a strong 14 possession showing ::)