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Title: Where is the President?
Post by: Rampstar on May 20, 2014, 10:50:35 AM
Where is the President?

Simple question.

We dont want spin and rubbish from Brendon Gale we want to see the President start to take real action.

Gale 3-0-75 = Sorry Benny but It didnt happen

So you cant go around now looking for support and spinning.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 20, 2014, 10:51:30 AM
Fernwoods
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 20, 2014, 10:55:33 AM
Where is the President?

Simple question.

We dont want spin and rubbish from Brendon Gale we want to see the President start to take real action.

Gale 3-0-75 = Sorry Benny but It didnt happen

So you cant go around now looking for support and spinning.
She's gone to get a quick lesson in coaching.  Failing that they are getting her shoe size to fit her with footy boots.
She is even thinking of becoming Captain Coach!
Then she can fix all the on field problems by leading from the front!  :whistle
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Rampstar on May 20, 2014, 10:56:33 AM
you didnt find Mrakovs answer funny? Doc.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 20, 2014, 10:59:48 AM
you didnt find Mrakovs answer funny? Doc.
It goes with my post.  She needs to get her fitness up first.
And yes it was very funny. ;D
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 20, 2014, 11:03:23 AM
and she's not 100% focusing on the job because she's a lawyer during the week
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Tigger on May 20, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
Personally I dont think it matters whether we hear from the President.

If you want to hear from someone from the Board - why isnt it Tony Free?

Quite frankly, comments from the Board dont mean much at the moment unless it is relevant to a Board decision.

Since the removal of Hardwick is not on the agenda for the Board (and I am not advocating that it should be) - what do people want the Board or more specifically the President to say?
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Rampstar on May 20, 2014, 11:15:54 AM
Malcolm Speed probably wouldnt put up with the spin and the crap coming from the administration at the moment. They are covering each others arses for the 3-0-75 and football decision making failures. Its unbelievable whats happening. The amount of annual money being wasted on the likes of Grigg and Hampson and Chaplin and Knights and others is a tragedy. We could have had some serious players come to the club but instead they wasted the clubs resources of this lot lol. What a fking rabble.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: (•))(©™ on May 20, 2014, 11:28:47 AM
Tony free. Shitman

Sheila president- useless

Damian hardwick - gutless.

Good club
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Dice on May 20, 2014, 11:36:26 AM
Tony free. pooman

LMFAO , Like you would even have a clue what he does at Richmond

   (•))(©™ = pooman
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 20, 2014, 11:43:46 AM
The pres is just getting a course on presidency from Jackstar.

She will be back with us shortly
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 20, 2014, 12:06:25 PM
She is only the President for the business. She knows nothing about playing football. That's Benny's job.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2014, 12:20:18 PM
and she's not 100% focusing on the job because she's a lawyer during the week

Really? Why because she's a woman?

What a load of crap  >:(

So are you going to apply this to every other President in the AFL who has a job or interests outside of footy? Like Eddie with his radio, TV, Brayshaw same, Koch; his TV and investment speaking engagments, Peter Gordon who's a lawyer too, Kernahan and his Stockbroking stuff etc .. they aren't focusing on the job either or are you just going to limit it to ours?

Our former president had a career/business interests outside football and you never raised it about him



Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 20, 2014, 12:30:07 PM
WP you need to look at the facts she doesnt know a thing about footy hence why Benny is fronting up to the media.

I dont like it. RFC is a poison chalice and we needed a strong president of the speed ilk,  not some lawyer who is out of her league.



Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2014, 12:34:12 PM
Where is the President?

Simple question.

We dont want spin and rubbish from Brendon Gale we want to see the President start to take real action.

Gale 3-0-75 = Sorry Benny but It didnt happen

So you cant go around now looking for support and spinning.

Ramps, in all honesty I don't think people can have it both ways

12 months people on here were cringing when they heard March in the media, everyone wanted him to shut up and let Benny do the talking

Now that Benny is doing the talking your saying the President should be talking.

As I said you cant have it both ways

So she speaks and then what?

She speaks and now matter what she says it seems a majority on here will ridicule her simply because she a woman. They wont listen so what's the point?

So it seems to me it's a no win situation for her and that is wrong. But hey it's no surprise

People shouldn't be judging her on her gender nor should they be wanting words, because let's be honest he talk is cheap real cheap out of Punt Road right now.

IMV what people should be judging her on is how she steers this Club through this mess and again in my view best way to do it is not by giving a daily commentary through the media about "gunnas" but simply by just doing   

Do I think she should come out and say something? No I don't and its got nothing to do with her gender but simply because the club shoud as a whole just shut up and get on with fixing this mess and attempting to earn back the respect of people like you & me who have little or no respect for them right now

Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: dwaino on May 20, 2014, 12:53:07 PM
Lmao @  the tantrums
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2014, 12:53:23 PM
WP you need to look at the facts she doesnt know a thing about footy hence why Benny is fronting up to the media.

I dont like it. RFC is a poison chalice and we needed a strong president of the speed ilk,  not some lawyer who is out of her league.

Are you that naive to think that reason that Benny is pushed out in the front of the media is because the the president supposedly knows nothing about football?

Seriously I thought you were smarter than that Angus

Do you know the reason why they send Benny out to speak to the masses? It is because the Club knows that the members (vast majority) believe Benny no matter what, they trust Benny and that as a result best way of getting the members back on side is via Benny. That's why they do it. I can give you a number of examples of how they've done it over the last 4 years

You are making an assumption that the President isn't strong? Why because she is a woman? You make the assumption that Speed knows about football. Why because he's a man?

Yes Speed has a reputation in sports administration but part of that tenure included running the biggest "ttothless tiger" in sport the ICC . But how does that equate to "knowing about football" What makes you think he'd be doing anything any differently?

So please tell me what exactly needs to be done for you to see of this supposed strength that's needed? Sack the coach prehaps? Sack the CEO? Sack the entire footy department

The fundamental role of a director at a Footy Club is to oversee the running of the BUSINESS as a whole. It staggers me that people think that one person weilds so much power at a Club. President is only person amongst a collective. They don't have that much power.

I have no problem with people saying the president should be spruiking in the media, have no problem with folks saying she's not doing a good job (though not sure how anyone can judge after 6 months) but what I do have  problem with is people using gender as the justification of her not doing a decent job. And facts are that's what a number of people are doing because they keep raising the gender issue in every post about the President
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: unplugged on May 20, 2014, 01:04:30 PM
She speaks and now matter what she says it seems a majority on here will ridicule her simply because she a woman. They wont listen so what's the point?

As president of our football club, if being a woman is the reason she isn't coming out on a the front foot and showing leadership to the fans, then maybe we have the wrong president.  Caroline Wilson, when asked what does Peggy brings to the table, the answer was stability.  A wooden post could give the same thing.  "I suppose she is working behind the scenes".  Even Wilson doesn't know what she is doing, that's how low her profile is.  The web chat was a filtered (and cowardly) disgrace.  Just because March was an idiot shouldn't excuse every future president from speaking publicly.

We need to know what she stands for, we need to know that she bleeds every much as we do, we need to know what steps she (as the president of this great football club) has taken to correct our performances and ensure accountability in future performances, we need to know that she has a plan to bring us our next premiership.

I understand your point William, but with the soft performances this club is dishing out, a soft president is not what this football club needs. As a woman, she has twice the motivation to get out there on the front foot and demonstrate why she was the right choice for this football club and not just tokenism.  Respect is earned.

Benny's voice is lost in rhetoric.  A strong voice is needed now more than ever.

Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: (•))(©™ on May 20, 2014, 01:17:07 PM
Presidents are meant to drive the whole thing.

They're meant to enforce a culture.

This bitch is like t@s on a bull -stuffn useless.

Female president at RFC = worst start to season in years.

It's a joke and I'm not a mysoginist.

stuffn new age club garbage.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 20, 2014, 01:23:12 PM
and she's not 100% focusing on the job because she's a lawyer during the week

Really? Why because she's a woman?

What a load of crap  >:(

So are you going to apply this to every other President in the AFL who has a job or interests outside of footy? Like Eddie with his radio, TV, Brayshaw same, Koch; his TV and investment speaking engagments, Peter Gordon who's a lawyer too, Kernahan and his Stockbroking stuff etc .. they aren't focusing on the job either or are you just going to limit it to ours?

Our former president had a career/business interests outside football and you never raised it about him

Please those are all easy jobs. Peggy's is the most challenging, I reckon she should quit her day job and focus on the tigers until we start delivering
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2014, 01:28:53 PM
Please those are all easy jobs. Peggy's is the most challenging, I reckon she should quit her day job and focus on the tigers until we start delivering

I said Gordon is a lawyer as well but his job as a lawyer is easier and not as challenging? Explain that

Oh and BTW, I think you will find that she doesn't work full time (certainly isn't a partner anymore) and is mainly a consultant so what's your next point
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2014, 01:46:56 PM

As president of our football club, if being a woman is the reason she isn't coming out on a the front foot and showing leadership to the fans, then maybe we have the wrong president.  Caroline Wilson, when asked what does Peggy brings to the table, the answer was stability.  A wooden post could give the same thing.  "I suppose she is working behind the scenes".  Even Wilson doesn't know what she is doing, that's how low her profile is.  The web chat was a filtered (and cowardly) disgrace.  Just because March was an idiot shouldn't excuse every future president from speaking publicly.


 I don't think it gender has anything to do with her not speaking. I believe it's club driven by those in the media dept.

As I said the Club wheels out Benny because they know the vast majority believe and trust Benny. They see it as a way to get the fans back onside. Unfortunately what the club needs to realise is that it isn't working anymore

But I do stand by what I said that if she did speak it wouldn't be enough because as posts on this subject are proving it appears to be about gender and nothing she does or doesn't do is going to be acceptable

I reckon you make some great points in your post but for me I don't want to hear more words. They mean very little to me now, I want to see actions because talk is cheap. She can tell us all the things we want to hear but it means little right now. Strong leadership isn't just about the words, it's about actions and how she steers us through this mess and how we come through it will define her presidency not what she says or doesn't say IMHO
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 20, 2014, 01:59:08 PM

As president of our football club, if being a woman is the reason she isn't coming out on a the front foot and showing leadership to the fans, then maybe we have the wrong president.  Caroline Wilson, when asked what does Peggy brings to the table, the answer was stability.  A wooden post could give the same thing.  "I suppose she is working behind the scenes".  Even Wilson doesn't know what she is doing, that's how low her profile is.  The web chat was a filtered (and cowardly) disgrace.  Just because March was an idiot shouldn't excuse every future president from speaking publicly.


 I don't think it gender has anything to do with her not speaking. I believe it's club driven by those in the media dept.

As I said the Club wheels out Benny because they know the vast majority believe and trust Benny. They see it as a way to get the fans back onside. Unfortunately what the club needs to realise is that it isn't working anymore

But I do stand by what I said that if she did speak it wouldn't be enough because as posts on this subject are proving it appears to be about gender and nothing she does or doesn't do is going to be acceptable

I reckon you make some great points in your post but for me I don't want to hear more words. They mean very little to me now, I want to see actions because talk is cheap. She can tell us all the things we want to hear but it means little right now. Strong leadership isn't just about the words, it's about actions and how she steers us through this mess and how we come through it will define her presidency not what she says or doesn't say IMHO
:clapping :clapping
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 20, 2014, 02:06:14 PM
The pres is just getting a course on presidency from Jackstar.

She will be back with us shortly

After my 5 min discussion with her on Saturday
She has no idea what so ever
Whole club is in denial
Something seriously wrong at Punt Rd
The assistants that Hardwick now has .its just a mates club
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: unplugged on May 20, 2014, 02:11:40 PM
I reckon you make some great points in your post but for me I don't want to hear more words. They mean very little to me now, I want to see actions because talk is cheap. She can tell us all the things we want to hear but it means little right now. Strong leadership isn't just about the words, it's about actions and how she steers us through this mess and how we come through it will define her presidency not what she says or doesn't say IMHO

I agree William but the club is breeding an us against them mentality.  Its not Richmond V arch rivals Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon.  Its Richmond V Supporters with the dribble they have been dishing up all season.  It might take some time before we see any action.  In the meantime, some words wouldn't hurt.  The right words might even inspire some action.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Phil Mrakov on May 20, 2014, 02:19:29 PM
Please those are all easy jobs. Peggy's is the most challenging, I reckon she should quit her day job and focus on the tigers until we start delivering

I said Gordon is a lawyer as well but his job as a lawyer is easier and not as challenging? Explain that

Oh and BTW, I think you will find that she doesn't work full time (certainly isn't a partner anymore) and is mainly a consultant so what's your next point

She should be 100% focusing on the tigers 7 days a week
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2014, 05:35:55 PM
Our president will be on Ch7 news this evening.

Guarantee it wont matter what she says folks will still be complaining and bagging.  ;D
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 20, 2014, 06:49:51 PM
Our president will be on Ch7 news this evening.

Guarantee it wont matter what she says folks will still be complaining and bagging.  ;D

surprise me Peggy, The club emailed me to ask us not to cancel our memberships after l contacted them Saturday after the game. So its about time someone got a rocket up the backside down there.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 20, 2014, 06:51:43 PM
So...
I have no issue with the fact the president is a female.
I have no issue that the president has been quiet either, as WP said th3 majority believe Benny and hold onto his word.
It wouldnt make sense for both to be running their mouths at the same time.

Personally I would have loved to have seen a president like Neil Balme or even a Kevin Sheedy (whoa, waiting for the backlash there) but Peggy has been put in pkace to be president so we have to back her in and give her an opportunity to do here job, which im sure she is capable of..

Our on field issues are not because Peggy is the president
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: froars on May 20, 2014, 06:51:53 PM
That was a joke lmao
The great interview was no comment :rollin
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 20, 2014, 06:54:22 PM
why would you even put that on the news  :rollin desperate reporting if you ask me. Glad she said nothing but what we do know is they had a meeting to correct things on the playing field & thats all that matter to the supporters.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: yellowandback on May 20, 2014, 07:39:50 PM
WP, I've heard/read her once on the q and a with supporters last week.
She didn't think we were in a mess back then so I'd ask you this question - how can you steer a club through a mess you don't think exists?

Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 20, 2014, 07:50:41 PM
WP, I've heard/read her once on the q and a with supporters last week.
She didn't think we were in a mess back then so I'd ask you this question - how can you steer a club through a mess you don't think exists?
She's never going to admit to internet unknowns there is a problem. It's called spin. What happens behind closed doors is more important.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 20, 2014, 08:31:27 PM
The pres is just getting a course on presidency from Jackstar.

She will be back with us shortly

After my 5 min discussion with her on Saturday
She has no idea what so ever
Whole club is in denial
Something seriously wrong at Punt Rd
The assistants that Hardwick now has .its just a mates club
You make me laugh
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Coach on May 20, 2014, 09:01:58 PM
I had 10 minute discussion with her and I felt like this afterwards. What a dud we have running our great club

(http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/203558/stuff.com/content/type/61/id/203558/stuff.com/content/type/61/id/203558/stuff.com/content/type/61/id/203558/flags/LL)
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 20, 2014, 09:03:13 PM
I had 10 minute discussion with her and I felt like this afterwards. What a dud we have running our great club

(http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/203558/stuff.com/content/type/61/id/203558/stuff.com/content/type/61/id/203558/stuff.com/content/type/61/id/203558/flags/LL)

You must be angry Coach
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on May 20, 2014, 09:07:00 PM
I had 10 minute discussion with her and I felt like this afterwards. What a dud we have running our great club

(http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/203558/stuff.com/content/type/61/id/203558/stuff.com/content/type/61/id/203558/stuff.com/content/type/61/id/203558/flags/LL)

You must be angry Coach
He's going to burst an aneurysm! Calm down!
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2014, 11:08:35 PM
WP, I've heard/read her once on the q and a with supporters last week.
She didn't think we were in a mess back then so I'd ask you this question - how can you steer a club through a mess you don't think exists?
She's never going to admit to internet unknowns there is a problem. It's called spin. What happens behind closed doors is more important.

Only just got in from dinner  ;D

But YandBB summed  it up perfectly

Thanks
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Willy on May 20, 2014, 11:28:03 PM
What do you knobs expect her to say in the media?
She can't fix this mess now. She should be judged on what she does in the off season to help right the ship.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 21, 2014, 06:35:37 AM
She doesn't realise there is a problem
And that's a problem
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 21, 2014, 06:36:29 AM
The pres is just getting a course on presidency from Jackstar.

She will be back with us shortly

After my 5 min discussion with her on Saturday
She has no idea what so ever
Whole club is in denial
Something seriously wrong at Punt Rd
The assistants that Hardwick now has .its just a mates club
You make me laugh

I am serious
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 21, 2014, 07:10:00 AM
She doesn't realise there is a problem
And that's a problem

Now seriously Jack I really thought you were smarter than that

What did you really expect her to say? Just because she didn't tell you what you wanted to hear; just gave you the company line response which BTW they're all doing at the moment doesn't mean squat to be honest

So, let's go the other say she gives you the answers you want, then you fly on here announce what she says and then she doesn't "deliver" they way you believe she should then you carry on about being lied too.

In the end they are just words, just token words and who gives a rats if you don't back it up with action

I reckon she and a number of the them are all well aware of what the problems are, with the first one being a hostile membership.

I am as peeved as anyone but as I've said and will continue to say I don't care about what they say, talk is cheap it means very little now it's time for action.

I don't care how they do it , I don't want to read about it I want to see it in action and that's how this President and the entire Club should be judge.

Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 21, 2014, 07:18:23 AM
What do you knobs expect her to say in the media?
She can't fix this mess now. She should be judged on what she does in the off season to help right the ship.

A Presidents job is too work through the season & be close to the club at all times. If you dont give 100% move on. She has been at the club for some years
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 21, 2014, 09:32:24 AM
She doesn't realise there is a problem
And that's a problem

Now seriously Jack I really thought you were smarter than that

What did you really expect her to say? Just because she didn't tell you what you wanted to hear; just gave you the company line response which BTW they're all doing at the moment doesn't mean squat to be honest

So, let's go the other say she gives you the answers you want, then you fly on here announce what she says and then she doesn't "deliver" they way you believe she should then you carry on about being lied too.

In the end they are just words, just token words and who gives a rats if you don't back it up with action

I reckon she and a number of the them are all well aware of what the problems are, with the first one being a hostile membership.

I am as peeved as anyone but as I've said and will continue to say I don't care about what they say, talk is cheap it means very little now it's time for action.

I don't care how they do it , I don't want to read about it I want to see it in action and that's how this President and the entire Club should be judge.

Biggest problem is they accept mediocrity
End of story
That's why as a football club we are where we are
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Rampstar on May 21, 2014, 09:36:44 AM
I listened to KB's eulogy for Tom Hafey. Its not the first time KB has given a great talk of substance. He is a brilliant communicator. The members would all fall in behind KB if he was President.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 21, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
What's interesting is that the player group and staff have this thing about pride and respect of the jumper
Nothing could be further from the truth
There aspirations are greater than their ability throughout the entire club
From the very top to the very bottom
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 21, 2014, 10:19:13 AM
I listened to KB's eulogy for Tom Hafey. Its not the first time KB has given a great talk of substance. He is a brilliant communicator. The members would all fall in behind KB if he was President.

Think Mr Bartlett has done enough for the Richmond Football Club. Let him enjoy the rest of his years in peace.
Rex Hunt would be a person who would shock the club into action or Meltdown  ;D
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Rampstar on May 21, 2014, 10:28:15 AM
I listened to KB's eulogy for Tom Hafey. Its not the first time KB has given a great talk of substance. He is a brilliant communicator. The members would all fall in behind KB if he was President.

Think Mr Bartlett has done enough for the Richmond Football Club. Let him enjoy the rest of his years in peace.
Rex Hunt would be a person who would shock the club into action or Meltdown  ;D

With Rexy in charge things would be real interesting indeed lol.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: TigerMonk on May 21, 2014, 10:33:30 AM
I listened to KB's eulogy for Tom Hafey. Its not the first time KB has given a great talk of substance. He is a brilliant communicator. The members would all fall in behind KB if he was President.

Think Mr Bartlett has done enough for the Richmond Football Club. Let him enjoy the rest of his years in peace.
Rex Hunt would be a person who would shock the club into action or Meltdown  ;D

With Rexy in charge things would be real interesting indeed lol.

Yes  :lol
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 21, 2014, 12:43:26 PM
Thought Rex would be ideal
Mike Green ?
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Diocletian on May 21, 2014, 12:52:10 PM
Mick Malloy
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 21, 2014, 01:01:18 PM
Peggy Bundy
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 21, 2014, 04:24:20 PM
Peggy Bundy

 :clapping yay get the big red in
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 21, 2014, 04:47:25 PM
Peggy Bundy

 :clapping yay get the big red in

All hail the big red beast  :bow
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Rampstar on May 21, 2014, 08:03:30 PM
After the poor club responses this week we need a new President IMHO.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 21, 2014, 08:42:52 PM
After the poor club responses this week we need a new President IMHO.

The "poor club responses"

Let me see...

We've had Benny spinning, we've had Dimma saying he doesn't have answers, we've Lids' saying we can still make finals and some refreshing if not foolish honesty from Jack today

Have I missed something? Are you saying all of the above is the fault of the president?

What other "poor responses" have there been (I didn't see what Ch7 dished up last night btw)

And please tell me Ramps what exactly would a new president bring right now? Apart from giving the media more ammo to pot us

Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Rampstar on May 21, 2014, 08:51:18 PM
After the poor club responses this week we need a new President IMHO.

The "poor club responses"

Let me see...

We've had Benny spinning, we've had Dimma saying he doesn't have answers, we've Lids' saying we can still make finals and some refreshing if not foolish honesty from Jack today

Have I missed something? Are you saying all of the above is the fault of the president?

What other "poor responses" have there been (I didn't see what Ch7 dished up last night btw)

And please tell me Ramps what exactly would a new president bring right now? Apart from giving the media more ammo to pot us

The administration deserve to be potted. They failed on 3-0-75 and the club is 16th on the ladder with a list full of highly paid duds from other clubs. The President should have implemented a full review of the whole organisation but alas we have nothing.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 21, 2014, 08:59:30 PM
After the poor club responses this week we need a new President IMHO.

The "poor club responses"

Let me see...

We've had Benny spinning, we've had Dimma saying he doesn't have answers, we've Lids' saying we can still make finals and some refreshing if not foolish honesty from Jack today

Have I missed something? Are you saying all of the above is the fault of the president?

What other "poor responses" have there been (I didn't see what Ch7 dished up last night btw)

And please tell me Ramps what exactly would a new president bring right now? Apart from giving the media more ammo to pot us

The administration deserve to be potted. They failed on 3-0-75 and the club is 16th on the ladder with a list full of highly paid duds from other clubs. The President should have implemented a full review of the whole organisation but alas we have nothing.

But Ramps, how do you know that there isn't reviews going on? How do you know we have "nothing"?

I'm not saying there is or there isn't but really how would we know what's going on behind the scenes unless it is leaked to the media?

You don't know, I don't know

And let's be honest that is the one thing they seemed to have gotten right in the last few years, the place doesn't leak like a sieve anymore

I've said it a few times I don't want a running commentary on what they intend to do, just want to see the results and see them act, talk is cheap
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 21, 2014, 09:50:17 PM
WP our coach has spun a running commentary the last month. "need to get better at one on one's" need to lift our work rate"
us as coaches need to lift. bla bla stuffin bla.

club has turned to poo and it would be nice if we heard from her or she is afraid of getting her feelings hurt. poor thing

Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 21, 2014, 09:51:24 PM
After the poor club responses this week we need a new President IMHO.

It's Ok ramps Jackstar is giving her a tip
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 21, 2014, 10:29:52 PM

club has turned to poo and it would be nice if we heard from her or she is afraid of getting her feelings hurt. poor thing

As expected you play the gender card Angus.

No need for it.

So I ask you if she came and said something, anything would you take it on face value or would you just fob it off as more spin or just ridicule it because she's a woman as it appears you refuse to respect the position she holds because of her gender. And the reason I say that is because every time you say anything about the president you make some reference to gender
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on May 22, 2014, 05:52:24 AM
WP our coach has spun a running commentary the last month. "need to get better at one on one's" need to lift our work rate"
us as coaches need to lift. bla bla stuffin bla.

club has turned to poo and it would be nice if we heard from her or she is afraid of getting her feelings hurt. poor thing
The coach has no choice but to bla, bla stuffin bla. He is obligated to give media interviews. I would be betting he would be a whole lot quieter if he wasn't.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: 1965 on May 22, 2014, 07:33:10 AM
After the poor club responses this week we need a new President IMHO.

The "poor club responses"

Let me see...

We've had Benny spinning, we've had Dimma saying he doesn't have answers, we've Lids' saying we can still make finals and some refreshing if not foolish honesty from Jack today

Have I missed something? Are you saying all of the above is the fault of the president?

What other "poor responses" have there been (I didn't see what Ch7 dished up last night btw)

And please tell me Ramps what exactly would a new president bring right now? Apart from giving the media more ammo to pot us

So to sum it up, you don't like the spin, the honesty, the lies or the optimism.

 :lol
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2014, 10:35:32 AM

So to sum it up, you don't like the spin, the honesty, the lies or the optimism.

 :lol

 ::) Not sure why you are directing that at me, when I was asking a question of Ramps but whatever

But FWIW the problem is this ...

There has been that much spin from certain folks at Punt Road that even honesty would be taken as spin so they are better to just shut up and get on with things...

As for optimism thanks to the spin and the constant gifting of games to favourites, there isn't much that gives one optimism.

Can I make it any clearer for you  ::)
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: 1965 on May 22, 2014, 10:41:08 AM

 ::) Not sure why you are directing that at me, when I was asking a question of Ramps but whatever


I'm sorry I thought this was a stuffing forum not a stuffing private conversation.

 ::) right back at you

Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2014, 10:43:16 AM

 ::) Not sure why you are directing that at me, when I was asking a question of Ramps but whatever


I'm sorry I thought this was a stuffing forum not a stuffing private conversation.

 ::) right back at you

Ouch

 ;D
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 22, 2014, 11:11:30 AM
 :fencing
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 22, 2014, 11:52:15 AM

club has turned to poo and it would be nice if we heard from her or she is afraid of getting her feelings hurt. poor thing

As expected you play the gender card Angus.

No need for it.

So I ask you if she came and said something, anything would you take it on face value or would you just fob it off as more spin or just ridicule it because she's a woman as it appears you refuse to respect the position she holds because of her gender. And the reason I say that is because every time you say anything about the president you make some reference to gender

The club is full of girls WP. No gender card its a fact. exhibit A. (Edwards, Graham and Grigg). They run around like my daughters in the backyard.

male or female wish someone just changed the culture of that whole football club. March couldnt do it, peggy sue doesnt seem able to.

Get Rex and Balmy in there. Its not a kindergarten we need ruthless competitors not feel good stories

Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2014, 12:14:32 PM
male or female wish someone just changed the culture of that whole football club. March couldnt do it, peggy sue doesnt seem able to.

The bold bit I agree with

But with respect Angus, the current President has been in the job just on 6 months so I am not sure how she is supposed to change a culture in that time.

And please don't use Koch & Port (and he's done an outstanding job BTW) as an example because what Port needed and what we need are very different. Port were a basket case OFF fiekd but the facts are their recruiting, trading and FA targeting has been alot better than ours even when they were a basket case off the field. Their list was alot better than people gave it credit for. So what they needed was to get the coaching appointment right and get the off field stuff right. Off field is where Koch has been brillant getting them high profile sponsors. As for the coaching thing they got the right people (eg Tom Harley etc) to interview the candidates and then recommend to the board the preferred candidate.

As I said to Ramps, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes at the RFC. People are making assumptions based solely on the presons profile and them not doing their job via the media. Again you make an assumption she isn't ruthless but seriously how do you know? How do any of us know?

The current President's tenure will be defined and determined by how she leads us through this mess we currently find ourselves in and by what the end outcomes are and that is IMHO that we become a better, stronger club.

Telling us what we want to hear to appease us (the members) is not leadership, that is spin. Doing what needs to be done to get this club back to where it should be and restoring the members respect is real leadership.

That's what I want, not meaningless words




Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: unplugged on May 22, 2014, 03:51:42 PM
What you want to hear from the President, CEO and Football director is that we are 100% behind Hardwick and completely support the structures and plans that he has put in place.

With these comments, you know a sacking is right around the corner.
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 22, 2014, 03:52:23 PM
What you want to hear from the President, CEO and Football director is that we are 100% behind Hardwick and completely support the structures and plans that he has put in place.

With these comments, you know a sacking is right around the corner.

 :lol
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 22, 2014, 04:09:47 PM
What you want to hear from the President, CEO and Football director is that we are 100% behind Hardwick and completely support the structures and plans that he has put in place.

With these comments, you know a sacking is right around the corner.

 :lol

this made me laugh
Title: Re: Where is the President?
Post by: yellowandback on May 22, 2014, 07:02:30 PM
What you want to hear from the President, CEO and Football director is that we are 100% behind Hardwick and completely support the structures and plans that he has put in place.

With these comments, you know a sacking is right around the corner.

 :rollin