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Title: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: one-eyed on June 25, 2014, 01:54:39 PM
VFL ROUND 12

Collingwood Magpies (6-4, 7th) vs Richmond Tigers (3-6-1, 12th)
 
Date: Saturday, 28 June 2014
Venue: Morwell Recreation Reserve
Time: 2:00 PM


Broadcast:

Tiger Radio - Users can listen by downloading Richmond’s app, via the iTunes App Store or Google Play, and choose ‘VFL Radio’ in the menu or via link on www.richmondfc.com.au .

Twitter: https://twitter.com/RichmondVFL
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: TigerMonk on June 25, 2014, 06:07:03 PM
oh this will be a laugh watching them shiver. They will only have one option. RUN RUN RUN  ;D
ground is perfect so there will be no excuses. Bring ya LJ's cause you need them  ;D
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 25, 2014, 11:55:29 PM
Another deep low intensifying off WA, set to bring more gale force winds, rain and snow late Friday night into Saturday. Morwell sounds like fun :facepalm :facepalm :outtahere
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: one-eyed on June 26, 2014, 06:30:19 PM
Jacko's back via the VFL.

Richmond VFL squad

B             McDonough, Darrou, Elton
HB          Lennon, Wall, Williams
C             Gordon, Jackson, O'Hanlon
HF           Young, McBean, Lloyd
F              Davey, Stephenson, Banfield

R             Hampson, Arnot, Batsanis

Int          L.Conca, Wynne, Mellington*, McGough, Barlow, Keddell, Bathie, Gleeson, Schibeci           

*Nick Mellington the Murray Bushrangers captain in the TAC Cup, and will play as Richmond’s 23rd man in Saturday’s match.




Morwell Recreation Reserve, Travers Street, Morwell

Entry: 2014 Richmond members $5, Adults $10, concession $5, children under 15 years – free.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-26/vfl-team-bolstered-with-key-tigers
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 26, 2014, 06:47:32 PM
Jacko's back via the VFL.

So it's good enough for Jackson to come back via the VFL but not Newman
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: (•))(©™ on June 26, 2014, 06:55:29 PM
Best and fairest 2012.

Jackson exuding proper leadership by showing what's required of any player, senior or kid,
If they want to earn their place.

Clearly NEwman is telling the coach he's ready to go, regardless of the double standard it sets.
Shame on you Chris.
 Even sadder, the coach backs it.
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: RollsRoyce on June 28, 2014, 03:34:47 PM
Half time in the reserves, the Tigers are down by 5 goals :P 6.2. 38 to 10.8. 68
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: mightytiges on June 28, 2014, 04:13:43 PM
3/4 time

Rich 9.4.58 trail @VFLPies 15.14.104.

Goals from Stephenson 2, Lloyd 2, Banfield 2, Arnot, Lennon, McGough.


Williams got the first goal of the last and Gordon hit the post. So it's 65 - 104 early in the last qtr.
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: mightytiges on June 28, 2014, 04:42:21 PM
Stats to half time were: Lennon the Tigers leading ball winner with 14 disposals, Jackson has 13 and 4 clearances, Stephenson 11, Young 11. Arnot with 5 tackles.

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Final Score

Richmond     1.1    6.2    9.4      13.10-88
Collingwood  5.4   10.8  15.14   19.18-132

Goals: Stephenson 2, Lloyd 2, Banfield 2, Lennon 2, McBean, Arnot, Williams, Gordon, McGough.



Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: tony_montana on June 28, 2014, 05:00:04 PM
Good to see lennon getting amongst it since he was dropped - exactly what he needed to do, a few more weeks of that then come back to the seniors and finish the season off strong and go into preseason 2 hungry to improve
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: one-eyed on June 28, 2014, 05:12:33 PM
@RichmondVFL twitter:

Leading ball winners: Young 30, Arnot 30, Lennon 23, Lloyd 21, Jackson 21, Wynne 21.
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: TigerMonk on June 28, 2014, 07:06:31 PM
No High Intensity. That sums up the game. In the 1st quarter told a thousands stories of where this football club is at & who is coaching the younger players & what the older players are let get away with. When l seen Jackson not willing to apply pressure walking 10 metres from a contest & then the ball going past him again to a player who l thought if he applied himself he could have stopped that & made a contest & stoppage. But NO he just seemed not interested. watched him run wide during the day while the ball was going down the other side on the boundry. Get over to the corridor & give them something. Nobody is going to use you 60 metres out of the action with your hand up stupid. & that folks summed up the day. A day where they used that 1 handball too many, too many times which resulted in turnovers. not many times does the football go down the middle of the ground. Its ugly football & not something l will bother going to watch again. No poo the locals display better football. lucky our clubs are playing tomorrow cause that just aint football. Bunch of spuds & whoever is teaching them how to play that way should pack their bags & get out  :banghead SPUDS
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Gigantor on June 28, 2014, 07:10:29 PM
Best players monk in your opinion?
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: TigerMonk on June 28, 2014, 07:10:46 PM
BTW whoever is forward coach at that club needs to give up football. Rarely do them forward lead fast to the player carrying the ball.  :banghead
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 28, 2014, 07:11:13 PM
Very worrying indeed
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: TigerMonk on June 28, 2014, 07:12:27 PM
Best players monk in your opinion?

They all even potato's  ;D
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: TigerMonk on June 28, 2014, 07:16:32 PM
me being up one end of the ground & the other half the sqawking magpie at the other, when we met up after the game she said losers loser & said well our future looks bright but yours looks very dull. l replyed with a shutup & drive ;D She continued with your team has some poo players  :banghead
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 28, 2014, 07:46:05 PM
me being up one end of the ground & the other half the sqawking magpie at the other, when we met up after the game she said losers loser & said well our future looks bright but yours looks very dull. l replyed with a shutup & drive ;D She continued with your team has some poo players  :banghead

We are very very good at producing poo players.
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: TigerMonk on June 28, 2014, 08:32:07 PM
in the last 1/4 a Richmond forward was leading for the ball which was very rare occasion & the player passed it 20 feet over his head perfect to a Collingwood defender who was 10 metres behind. the comments from the spectators was priceless. They paid to see that  ;D
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: one-eyed on June 28, 2014, 11:01:19 PM
Richmond midfielder Daniel Jackson also showed plenty of form, finishing with 21 disposals, on return from a minor hip injury. He was among the Tigers' best and appears set for an AFL return against the Brisbane Lions next week.

Ben Lennon was impressive with 23 disposals, while Sam Lloyd was also influential at times for the Tigers and finished with 21 disposals and two goals. Ruckman Orren Stephenson also kicked two goals.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/collingwood-ruckman-brodie-grundy-stakes-claim-for-recall-20140628-zspkx.html#ixzz35wFFuJUL
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Penelope on June 29, 2014, 08:55:08 AM
A day where they used that 1 handball too many, too many times which resulted in turnovers. not many times does the football go down the middle of the ground. Its ugly football

At least they have the seconds playing the same way as the seniors.......
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: TigerMonk on June 29, 2014, 10:42:08 AM
Richmond midfielder Daniel Jackson also showed plenty of form, finishing with 21 disposals, on return from a minor hip injury. He was among the Tigers' best and appears set for an AFL return against the Brisbane Lions next week.

Ben Lennon was impressive with 23 disposals, while Sam Lloyd was also influential at times for the Tigers and finished with 21 disposals and two goals. Ruckman Orren Stephenson also kicked two goals.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/collingwood-ruckman-brodie-grundy-stakes-claim-for-recall-20140628-zspkx.html#ixzz35wFFuJUL

Amazing what trash is written these days. Tigers best Jackson  ;D l knew l should have filmed the game. How the hell does anyone get best not giving 100% effort. If poo games are rewared like that then that's our problem right there of playing names & not performers. These guys miss goals that l see average footballers get weekly from the same spot. they played down the wind swept side instead of using the wind protected grandstand side ( Sack the coach his a idiot) As said to me often during the day we have a bleak future & thats coming from longtime football people. don't send that poo back down here as no-one wants to watch it.  :lol
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2014, 03:40:19 AM
VFL Tigers beaten in country clash
John Lindon 
June 29, 2014


The Tigers struggled against an efficient Collingwood side, eventually going down by 44 points in a country VFL fixture at Morwell Recreation Reserve on Saturday afternoon

The Pies kicked away late in the first term and, despite accurate conversion, the Tigers were unable to reel them in.

Strong performances from the Tigers midfield unit were a highlight in the loss. Ruck duo Orren Stephenson and Shaun Hampson combined during the match, Stephenson continued his good form with two goals and had the strongest hands of any Tiger on the ground. Hampson worked hard during the match, but didn't take his chances in front of goal.

Ben Lennon, who also booted two majors, worked tirelessly for his 23 touches in a consistent four-quarter display.

Skipper Ross Young and tough ball-winner Matt Arnot both had 30 disposals and six clearances and were solid but not scintillating.

The Tigers, who had struggled to create scoring opportunities early, hit the scoreboard more regularly in the second half but were unable to string together multiple goals to really reduce the deficit and built momentum.

Sam Lloyd (21 disposals) provided a target up forward and kicked two goals, Nick Wynne again had an influence from half back and Matt McDonough used the ball well.

Ben Darrou was a shining light in what was a tough day for Richmond’s defenders. He constantly looked to move the ball forward, spoiled well and remained composed under pressure.

The Tigers began the final term well as Cadeyn Williams snapped a terrific goal from deep in the pocket to give the Tigers hope but Collingwood held on comfortably.

Daniel Jackson (21 disposals and 8 clearances) started well but was relatively quiet in the second half.


RICHMOND           1.1        6.2         9.4         13.10 (88)
COLLINGWOOD     5.4        10.8       15.14        19.18 (132)

Goals: Stephenson 2, Lloyd 2, Banfield 2, Lennon 2, Arnot, McBean, Williams, McGough, Gordon

Best: Stephenson, Lennon, Darrou, Arnot, Lloyd

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-29/vfl-tigers-beaten-in-country-clash
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: wayne on June 30, 2014, 07:30:08 PM
No High Intensity. That sums up the game. In the 1st quarter told a thousands stories of where this football club is at & who is coaching the younger players & what the older players are let get away with. When l seen Jackson not willing to apply pressure walking 10 metres from a contest & then the ball going past him again to a player who l thought if he applied himself he could have stopped that & made a contest & stoppage. But NO he just seemed not interested. watched him run wide during the day while the ball was going down the other side on the boundry. Get over to the corridor & give them something. Nobody is going to use you 60 metres out of the action with your hand up stupid. & that folks summed up the day. A day where they used that 1 handball too many, too many times which resulted in turnovers. not many times does the football go down the middle of the ground. Its ugly football & not something l will bother going to watch again. No poo the locals display better football. lucky our clubs are playing tomorrow cause that just aint football. Bunch of spuds & whoever is teaching them how to play that way should pack their bags & get out  :banghead SPUDS

I was there too Monk, don't take any notice of the best players, Big O was good, no-one else showed anything.

EDIT: Actually, one youngster showed a bit. Pity he played for the Pies. Broomhead was everywhere.
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 30, 2014, 07:48:10 PM
Smeg get him then

Kids at gws and GC and top five clubs that can't get game

Broomface. Mitchell etc
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: the claw on June 30, 2014, 08:59:50 PM
Jacko's back via the VFL.

Richmond VFL squad

B             McDonough, Darrou, Elton
HB          Lennon, Wall, Williams
C             Gordon, Jackson, O'Hanlon
HF           Young, McBean, Lloyd
F              Davey, Stephenson, Banfield

R             Hampson, Arnot, Batsanis

Int          L.Conca, Wynne, Mellington*, McGough, Barlow, Keddell, Bathie, Gleeson, Schibeci           

*Nick Mellington the Murray Bushrangers captain in the TAC Cup, and will play as Richmond’s 23rd man in Saturday’s match.




Morwell Recreation Reserve, Travers Street, Morwell

Entry: 2014 Richmond members $5, Adults $10, concession $5, children under 15 years – free.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-06-26/vfl-team-bolstered-with-key-tigers
play the kids eh. what kids.
with the possible exception of two or three all of the rfc listed players above are battlers.
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2014, 10:14:17 PM
VIDEO: VFL highlights vs Collingwood ...

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-06-30/vfl-highlights-round-12
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Yeahright on June 30, 2014, 10:25:21 PM
Did Hampson play?
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 01, 2014, 06:59:23 AM
Did Hampson play?

Yes, supposedly
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: wayne on July 01, 2014, 10:22:37 AM
Did Hampson play?

Not very well.

No Helbig, O'Hanlon or Griffiths
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 01, 2014, 10:24:32 AM
No Helbig, O'Hanlon or Griffiths

Saw all of them at the Saints game

O'Hanlon was emergency for the seniors, Helbig injured and Griffo - I have no idea, didn't speak to him.  ;D
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Yeahright on July 01, 2014, 02:51:43 PM
Apparently injured
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Diocletian on July 01, 2014, 03:11:31 PM
Apparently injured

Hip 2-3 weeks
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Rampstar on July 01, 2014, 04:14:34 PM
Our playing list is in complete disarray, the lack of youngsters in the twos just shows the stupidity of the cheap moneyball rubbish they have implemented over the last 2 or 3 years. Complete utter rubbish.
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: one-eyed on July 01, 2014, 07:27:56 PM

VFL Wrap: Round 12 with Tim Clarke ...

VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2014-07-01/vfl-wrap-round-12

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VFL Tigers’ contested focus
richmondfc.com.au 
July 1, 2014 4:22 PM


“We started really slowly. They kicked six goals or seven goals to our one in the first quarter and really put us on the back foot,” Clarke told Roar Vision.

“We knew going into the game that they’d be hungry and it would be all about contested footy, that’s the way they’ve been playing most of the year.

“They just beat us inside and were able to get their game up and going, and we couldn’t catch them from there.”

The Tigers have struggled to win the contested ball in recent weeks, but Clarke is confident his side can improve in that area of its game.

Read more and the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-01/vfl-tigers-contested-focus
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: one-eyed on July 01, 2014, 07:30:49 PM
Richmond VFL coach Tim Clarke's summary of how the AFL-listed players performed at VFL level in Saturday’s loss to Collingwood:

Orren Stephenson
2 goals, 14 disposals, 21 hit outs, 7 marks

Very good in the ruck. Most dominant big man on the ground, went forward and kicked goals and gave our midfielders first use. Continues to keep pushing and playing good football, hopefully senior selection isn’t too far away.

Matt Arnot
1 goal, 30 disposals, 6 clearances, 5 tackles

Was very good offensively. Probably the best link game he’s played for us this season, he brought others into the game. Still needs to improve on the defensive side of his game but we’ve been working on that.

Ben Lennon
1 goal, 23 disposals (10 contested)

Continued playing an inside midfield role. Contested possessions have been a real focus of his over the last few weeks. Contributed when we went forward as well. Really solid game from him.

Daniel Jackson
21 disposals, 8 clearances

Played a serviceable game inside – a grunt game. Got lots of inside ball and crashed packs, which is what we expect him to do. Just needs to convince senior selectors that his body is ready to go.

Shaun Hampson
8 disposals, 29 hit outs

Started the game well with a couple of big contests but couldn’t hold the ball. Got to contests but was well spoiled. Needs to be stronger with his hands.

Sam Lloyd
2 goals, 21 disposals

Had a solid game. We’ll look to play him deeper forward and change his role a bit this week but he’s been our best forward in recent weeks.

Matt McDonough

17 disposals, 4 inside 50s
Played a combination of roles – through the midfield early and then had to go to half back to give us stability there. We wanted more inside work from him and expect a four-quarter performance.

Ben Darrou
15 disposals, 4 spoils

Started poorly and was beaten early, but fought back into it and played his role for three quarters, which is what we expect.

Nathan Gordon
15 disposals

Played on a wing and worked back hard to help out defenders. He did some good things but we need him getting more ball and doing more.

Liam McBean
1 goal, 15 disposals

Much better this week, he bounced back. Played a lot higher up the ground to get him more involved in the game. Got on the end of a couple of kicks and started marking well. We’re hoping for a bigger and better performance this week.

Cadeyn Williams
1 goal, 14 disposals

Bit quieter this week. Played mostly on a wing and through the forward line but must win more footy than he did.

Todd Banfield
2 goals, 12 disposals

The most active game he’s played. Really close to playing a good game of footy. Hit the scoreboard but over the next couple of weeks he’s going to play a standout game because of his hunger and work rate.

Todd Elton
8 disposals

Had to play as a permanent key forward this week. He’s been battling to get his hands on the footy. Provided us with an option all day, tried hard, but couldn’t impact the game as a forward.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-07-01/the-vfl-report-round-12

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Click here to see all the stats from Saturday's game:

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Files/vflstatscollingwood.pdf
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Yeahright on July 01, 2014, 08:39:22 PM
Think Big O deserves a go in the seniors. He isn't the way forward but either is Hampson so if they decide to bring in another ruckman/forward it must be the O. Unless of course they decide to give Beaner or Elton a go but that ain't happening.

Daniel Jackson
21 disposals, 8 clearances

Played a serviceable game inside – a grunt game. Got lots of inside ball and crashed packs, which is what we expect him to do. Just needs to convince senior selectors that his body is ready to go.

Is it fair to say he laid close to 0 tackles if none have been listed, if so to not question his defensive side but questions Arnotts is a farce
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: TigerMonk on July 01, 2014, 11:48:11 PM
Clarke says QUOTE: They just beat us inside.  :wallywink No wonder with all your midfielders running on the outside wide not wanting to compete. You need sacking fool
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Tiger Tragic on July 02, 2014, 01:46:25 PM
Shaun Hampson
8 disposals, 29 hit outs

Started the game well with a couple of big contests but couldn’t hold the ball. Got to contests but was well spoiled. Needs to be stronger with his hands.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Files/vflstatscollingwood.pdf

If he can't mark the ball at VFL level he is no hope at AFL level.
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Diocletian on July 02, 2014, 02:41:41 PM
Shaun Hampson
8 disposals, 29 hit outs

Started the game well with a couple of big contests but couldn’t hold the ball. Got to contests but was well spoiled. Needs to be stronger with his hands.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Files/vflstatscollingwood.pdf

If he can't mark the ball at VFL level he is no hope at AFL level.

Give him a break, he's only in his 8th season.....
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Dice on July 02, 2014, 03:29:48 PM
“We knew going into the game that they’d be hungry and it would be all about contested footy, that’s the way they’ve been playing most of the year."

lol......as opposed to the way we've been playing Timmy ??
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: tony_montana on July 02, 2014, 03:31:30 PM
Think Big O deserves a go in the seniors. He isn't the way forward but either is Hampson so if they decide to bring in another ruckman/forward it must be the O. Unless of course they decide to give Beaner or Elton a go but that ain't happening.

Daniel Jackson
21 disposals, 8 clearances

Played a serviceable game inside – a grunt game. Got lots of inside ball and crashed packs, which is what we expect him to do. Just needs to convince senior selectors that his body is ready to go.

Is it fair to say he laid close to 0 tackles if none have been listed, if so to not question his defensive side but questions Arnotts is a farce

Ridiculous hearing them say that Arnotts defensive game is somthing theyve been working on - the bloke got dropped earlier this season after laying 9 stuffing tackles.
Title: Re: VFL: Richmond vs Collingwood --- Sat. June 28 @ Morwell
Post by: Chuck17 on July 02, 2014, 03:32:53 PM
Shaun Hampson
8 disposals, 29 hit outs

Started the game well with a couple of big contests but couldn’t hold the ball. Got to contests but was well spoiled. Needs to be stronger with his hands.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Files/vflstatscollingwood.pdf

If he can't mark the ball at VFL level he is no hope at AFL level.

Give him a break, he's only in his 8th season.....

The sagacious Dioc may be a few Toga's short of a party but in this instance he is fully correct, big fellas take longer to develop and in his 18th year Hampson should come good

Pencil it in