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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: taztiger4 on September 05, 2014, 11:55:12 AM
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on RFC site now
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Out of contract: Arnot, Batchelor, Dea, A.Edwards, Elton, Helbig, Knights, McDonough, O'Hanlon, Petterd
Sign up arnot Bach dea helbig donuts
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Didn't see that coming, good servant onya jacko and good luck. Even though he won't need it.
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Why? He's only 26
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Why? He's only 28
Not best 22 ...
To be honest it's a shame having Grigg for another year in the side religiously ahead of jacko
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Nick Maxwell plan?
Good luck to him, and thanks for the service. Smart cookie is Dan, will make a name for himself as an administrator if he chooses to.
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Not even a bad injury that one. His heart isn't in it
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Why? He's only 26
He's 28 which isn't a big difference. Site says injuries took it's toll, maybe Knights should take a look at what Jacko's done
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Why? He's only 26
He's 28 which isn't a big difference. Site says injuries took it's toll, maybe Knights should take a look at what Jacko's done
And hampson
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Why? He's only 26
He's 28 which isn't a big difference. Site says injuries took it's toll, maybe Knights should take a look at what Jacko's done
what injuries ? A glute? Would've got over that pretty quickly. I'd say his heart not in it
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Something else must be behind this. Shocking news to lose him as a player, but hopefully he contributes to the club well in another way. IE coach or administrative.
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Congratulations Jacko on a great career through a tough stretch of our history. Winning the club B&F last year and helping push our club into our first final series will be how I remember you most.....that and your funny player interviews around the club! :lol
I was hoping you could come in to tag Gray and/or Boak this week but if your bodies not right then at least you have bowed out still on a high.
Jacko will become the AFL CEO in years to come mark my words! :thumbsup
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Hearts not in it!
But I think there might be a bit more too it, you think he may have had enough after some one telling him he isn't in the side this week?
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Time to move on
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Our average IQ just dropped.
:lol
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Something else must be behind this. Shocking news to lose him as a player, but hopefully he contributes to the club well in another way. IE coach or administrative.
Was told he was not playing vs port and had a cracked it, possibly
Hearts not in it!
But I think there might be a bit more too it, you think he may have had enough after some one telling him he isn't in the side this week?
Am I playing this week?
Well mate we got Grigg on the wing and Thomas playing inside. Looking at putting Ricky on a hbf so you won't get a game this week
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Our average IQ just dropped.
:lol
Kicking ability just shot up
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Real shame but he has played well for the club, can walk away happy!!
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Yes I think he had planned to retire this year regardless after all his injuries but was holding on to the hope that he would play one last finals series. When he was told it was unlikely that he would play on Sunday he decided to announce his retirement.
That's how I see it probably played out
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Thanks Jacko,
Great servant of RFC :clapping :clapping
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Thanks Dan for being a loyal servant. :clapping
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Jacko my mang :clapping
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for most of his career I didn't think he was much good but he was outstanding last year and everyone I know reckons he's a great bloke as well. So good luck to Jacko with whatever he chooses to do, been told he is a very smart guy .. so good luck and well done on winning b&f last year and your whole career.
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Massive shame IMO. Needed his big body.
Thanks for giving 100%. Solid career on limited ability.
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what a weak prick, quitting :P
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Bizarre..
Looks poor to be honest. At 28, after a decade of mediocrity. Tigers finally play finals 2 years in a row. Leadership group. Reigning B&F.
Makes no sense.
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Frees up some money.
Vickey or Griffiths plus second rounder for Ryder
Get it done tiges
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if we want ryder we just take him
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But if he walks surely it sounds like Brisbane, so only likely way we can get him if Bummers agree to trade if he is peeed at them and bummers have to cut their losses
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2 days before we play a final.
Why this week?
Why not put the team first and wait until the end of the campaign.
I don't get it.
Horrible timing.
And what if we happen to beat Port and happen to suffer three injuries doing it.
Ordinary form IMO.
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...and lo after 10,000 days of darkness, the mists of mediocrity that enveloped the tribe finally, slowly, began to roll away from the road of punt, behold the faithful as they dance with joy....
(http://media.tumblr.com/2724687a238508c92ecb0413bdcdaf21/tumblr_inline_n42ymljU0b1qcryb6.gif)
...so let it be written, so let it be done....
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Thanks for your service Jacko.
Will always remember you for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RhC3DRwQxg
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Seems very strange, the timing of it I mean
Anyways..
Thanks Jacko, success to you for future endeavours :clapping
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Half the dopey flogs on BF are actually hoping he changes his mind...."but we really need him" "who's going to replace him on the bench?"....hahaha ...oh man.....
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Could be that he was told he would be a late in on Sunday. He then said he couldn't trust his body to get through the whole game and called it quits.
Put the team first!
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No lap like Kingy I guess..... :'(
We will have to win the next two so he can come down amongst the cheer squad at G and share a Midori and Lemonade. :cheers
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rayzorwire will be devastated
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Seems very strange, the timing of it I mean
Anyways..
Thanks Jacko, success to you for future endeavours :clapping
Agree. Really weird timing. Just heard it on the radio. ABC was still saying he is in line to play on Sunday. Good luck to him and best wishes for the future. Out of football always came across as someone who was very bright. He should be commended for his efforts for charity. Whilst I was not the greatest fan of him as a footballer he deserved to win the best and fairest last year. His game in beating one of the greats in Ablett was sensational. One could never doubt his courage.
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Selfless decision.
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Could be that he was told he would be a late in on Sunday. He then said he couldn't trust his body to get through the whole game and called it quits.
Put the team first!
I think you are on the money with that post.
If it was otherwise (ie told he wasnt playing), he could simply have waited till Monday and announced it then. He might have woken up this morning stiff and sore from yesterdeay's training session and realised that his body was shot and not up to AFL finals level - didnt want to let the team down.
At last year's B&F said he was considering retiring after 2012 and was pursuaded to play on - he had no pre-season and it showed, injuries mounted thise year...I think he definately put the team first - allows Dimma and coaches to plan without him...just in case he was called in to the 22 - or even if they took him over as an emergency...
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SG1 is one of the academically smartest footballers going around. He was absolutely crap for a large part of his career. In his defence he was always given the poo jobs during a game and it's not like we were remotely close to a premiership during the majority of his playing tenure. I am really happy last year something clicked and he learnt to play within his limitations and was extremely serviceable to the team which was reflected with him grabbing 9 brownlow votes and the B+F. Tagging Ablett in our GCS win was extremely selfless of him.
All the best to him. I actually think his intellect is wasted in football. I think community work is where his heart is and I have no doubts he would make a fantastic public servant.
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SG1 is one of the academically smartest footballers going around. He was absolutely crap for a large part of his career. In his defence he was always given the poo jobs during a game and it's not like we were remotely close to a premiership during the majority of his playing tenure. I am really happy last year something clicked and he learnt to play within his limitations and was extremely serviceable to the team which was reflected with him grabbing 9 brownlow votes and the B+F. Tagging Ablett in our GCS win was extremely selfless of him.
All the best to him. I actually think his intellect is wasted in football. I think community work is where his heart is and I have no doubts he would make a fantastic public servant.
which has nothing to do with his footballing
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yep selfless unlike that flog newman
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rayzorwire will be devastated
With Danny boy, Tucky & TW all no longer at the club now surely he won't be renewing his membership.
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Shock as wounded Tiger Dan Jackson retires
Travis King and Tim Roman
afl.com.au
September 5, 2014 2:21 PM
IN A SURPRISE at Tigerland, Richmond's reigning best and fairest winner Daniel Jackson has announced his immediate retirement.
Jackson was named in the Tigers' 25-man squad to face Port Adelaide in Sunday's elimination final but told his teammates on Friday morning that he was bowing out of football due to injury.
"We've been aware of his challenges this year trying to get his body right, obviously there's physical and also mental challenges with that," Tigers general manager of football Dan Richardson said on Friday.
"So we weren't shocked by the decision, but in the end obviously that got the better of him and he's made a decision that it's all over for him.
"After a great year last year winning the Jack Dyer Medal, obviously Dan was hoping to repeat that but injuries have got the better of him this year.
"In the end he's made a really selfless decision. He wasn't confident in his body – not only next year – but even right now."
The 28-year-old was restricted to just 10 games this season after an interrupted pre-season, and suffered with hip, glute and lower back injuries during the year.
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick and Richardson unsuccessfully tried to convince Jackson to see out the season.
"Certainly we both tried to do that but you could see in his eyes that he was comfortable with the call and in the end that's all you can do (is) respect that," Richardson said.
Richardson hoped Jackson's emotional farewell would have a positive impact on the playing group ahead of the Power clash.
"I think in many ways the impact will be positive in a sense because it's a reminder for us all that footy doesn't last forever and you've got to take your opportunities when they're in front of you," he said.
"There was some emotion in the room, I have no doubt about that, but the players have been around a bit and understand these situations happen in footy.
"Dan was certainly really emotional but as far as the playing group is concerned the timing and the announcement is about making sure that we're able to focus on this weekend."
Only last week, Hardwick was talking about the midfielder as a potential wildcard in the finals for the Tigers.
"If we go further he's an important player for us," Hardwick said last Thursday.
"He is the sort of player that for mine is a finals type player – he's hard, he's tough and he wins his own contested ball."
After contemplating retirement at the end of 2012, Jackson produced some career best football last season and played every game to win the Tigers' best and fairest.
Hardwick said the 28-year-old's 2014 season had been disappointing "from an output point of view" after a poor preparation.
"He's had a horrible run with injury, he didn't have a preseason," the coach said.
Jackson's place in the squad to face the Power was taken by Ben Lennon, with the final 22 to be named later on Friday.
Richardson lauded Jackson as a great clubman and "a great role model for the game", whose community and AFL Players' Association work would hold him in good stead for life after football.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-05/wounded-tiger-jackson-retires
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I respect every person who plays for Richmond (Except Hampson) but I am not sorry to hear this news.
I am however disappointed in the timing, very selfish in my eyes.
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This is why I loved Jacko....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9RhC3DRwQxg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9RhC3DRwQxg)
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Good on ya Jacko! Thanks for your years of hard slog when we were rubbish. Could always depend on Jacko to put his head over it & do the hard things when we needed it. A reliable source of some good old fashioned biff too! Retirement is the one thing a player can be selfish about, he knows more about his body & status than anybody else. Sad to see you go, but congrats on being a real tough guy right til the end! Now we need to draft another Ranga to keep the numbers up! ;D
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Good on ya Jacko! Thanks for your years of hard slog when we were rubbish. Could always depend on Jacko to put his head over it & do the hard things when we needed it. A reliable source of some good old fashioned biff too! Retirement is the one thing a player can be selfish about, he knows more about his body & status than anybody else. Sad to see you go, but congrats on being a real tough guy right til the end! Now we need to draft another Ranga to keep the numbers up! ;D
We have Conca and vlastuin thanks
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Why I retired
Daniel Jackson
September 5, 2014 3:55 PM
To all Richmond people,
This week is a big one for us all. No-one is more excited than me about what we, as a club, have been able to achieve over the last nine weeks and, more importantly, the opportunity that lies before us.
I have spent this week doing everything possible to convince myself that my body was up for the fight on Sunday, and I could go out there and play my role as I’ve always done.
Unfortunately, after 11 years of scrapping and grinding, my body hasn’t got any fight left. It is with this in mind that I have decided it would be best for myself, and for our footy club, that I retire.
This has been a very difficult decision, especially given that this is all I’ve known since I was drafted in 2003 as a 17-year-old boy. The decision was made even more difficult knowing I had a contract for 2015, and that I’d have the opportunity to be a part of what I have full confidence is going to be the start of something great for our proud club.
Ultimately, though, after thinking about it long and hard, I didn’t want to leave myself in a position where I spent my final time as a footballer, not being able to perform to a level that I’d expect of myself and, more importantly, to a level that the footy club needs from me.
As far as looking back goes, I’ll only take with me the fondest of memories of my time with Richmond. Eleven years is a long time, especially with all the trials and tribulations, fighting the physical and mental battles known all too well by anyone who’s played our great game. I came into this game as a boy, with little hope of ever achieving much as far as an AFL career went. I leave a man, proudly knowing I squeezed every ounce out of the little ability I came in with.
I can’t begin to express how much the people I’ve shared the journey with along the way mean to me, and how grateful I am to them for their support, through both good and, probably more often than not, the not so good!
I love my club and, most importantly, I love my teammates. I look forward to seeing them go on to do great things. It is for this reason, and this reason alone, I hope that people can understand my decision to retire.
Finally, I'd like to thank my parents, who've put up with a lot over the years. Their support has been unyielding through thick and thin.
Good luck to the boys. I know you'll do our jumper proud.
Jacko
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2014-09-05/why-i-retired
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
One day you might even be gracious to someone that has served our club claw.
We all know he didn't have heaps of talent. Hell, he even says that he had very little in his farewell speech.
What he did do is he ran out and gave his all for the club. One must applaud him for that.
All you can ask someone to do is to give 100% every time they run out onto the field. That he did.
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This is why I loved Jacko....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9RhC3DRwQxg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9RhC3DRwQxg)
Was already posted ;D
Thanks for your service Jacko.
Will always remember you for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RhC3DRwQxg
I reckon Jacko can leave with his head held high, got the absolute most out of a very average football ability and went beyond everyone's expectations last year and now has the guts to call it quits when he could of just slid through next year on good money doing nothing. For me he will leave this club as a better leader than Newman
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To me this is an astonishing decision.Why not wait until our finals campaign is over.Is this supposed to galvanize the group,because I fear it might do the opposite.
Nevertheless Jacko was someone I admired for his work ethic and hardness,and for getting the most out ofwhat seemed limited ability
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I liked the big bloodnut, he gave his best and I wish he had of stopped thinking so much about everything and just did like he did last year and let some instinct take over. And Claw, you can be a real Sh ! t sometimes.
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Favourite memory of Jacko will be banging up that poos Harvey's arm
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lol he nearly ripped it off
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I like Jacko.
Not a skillful player but added some toughness when we had very little in the team.
Well done on your career. :thumbsup
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I thought he was Michael voss early on
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
What a right royal flog of a post
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Made the very best of the talents he was blessed with, and for that I admire him , thanks for your contribution jacko and best wishes :clapping
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Could be that he was told he would be a late in on Sunday. He then said he couldn't trust his body to get through the whole game and called it quits.
Put the team first!
Correct
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
And you call yourself a Richmond person.
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
No need to be a peckerhead mate.
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
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More than deserved a send off game.
Oh well.
Well done Jacko
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oh dear if its not dipped in chocolate or sugar coated its not good enough for some it seems.
have never rated him have long wanted him gone and just because hes retired i wont change that opinion.
there are some of us who are pleased to see the back of him as far as aplayer goes.
if you want a positive im happy to go along with good club man most likely a good bloke and someone who gave 100%. but that doesnt make him a good player or his footy career an out standing career.
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
two days to go i reckon. b ut who knows we have had the wood on port the last couple of yrs.
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
two days to go i reckon. b ut who knows we have had the wood on port the last couple of yrs.
Either way, I will stand and applaud a Tiger, that despite his limitations, has put his body on the line for over 150 games and contributed in a meaningful manner to the betterment of the club.
That sir, deserves some respect.
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From the outside, this appears to have come out of the blue given Jacko was named in the squad for this week. Interesting to find out if his body broke down again during training and that triggered the sudden retirement(?).
Anyway, all the best to Jacko in his post-footy career. He was the last of our stack of 2003 draftees (most didn't last long aside from himself and Tucky). So for pick 53, he's done well to survive for 11 years at AFL level, play 156 games to become a RFC life member and win a B&F in 2013.
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
two days to go i reckon. b ut who knows we have had the wood on port the last couple of yrs.
Either way, I will stand and applaud a Tiger, that despite his limitations, has put his body on the line for over 150 games and contributed in a meaningful manner to the betterment of the club.
That sir, deserves some respect.
good for you
when commenting on him as a player i refuse to sugar coat it just because hes retired. in fact to change ones opinion just because hes retired would be damn superficial imo.
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
two days to go i reckon. b ut who knows we have had the wood on port the last couple of yrs.
Either way, I will stand and applaud a Tiger, that despite his limitations, has put his body on the line for over 150 games and contributed in a meaningful manner to the betterment of the club.
That sir, deserves some respect.
good for you
when commenting on him as a player i refuse to sugar coat it just because hes retired. in fact to change ones opinion just because hes retired would be damn superficial imo.
Nobody is saying you have to change your opinion on him, Claw, but there is a time and a place for your mediocrity rants and this is not one of them. Show some class for the retirement of a tiger player.
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
two days to go i reckon. b ut who knows we have had the wood on port the last couple of yrs.
Either way, I will stand and applaud a Tiger, that despite his limitations, has put his body on the line for over 150 games and contributed in a meaningful manner to the betterment of the club.
That sir, deserves some respect.
good for you
when commenting on him as a player i refuse to sugar coat it just because hes retired. in fact to change ones opinion just because hes retired would be damn superficial imo.
You just dont get it, do you. It is about acknowledging a contribution towards the club not another critique.
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Question to claw.
If your daughter loses in her rowing championships, do you tell her she was mediocre or do you say well done, you gave it your best shot and gave everything you got?
Do you see what we are getting at now?
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before or after he slaps her?
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before or after he slaps her?
Rightly so - spare the rod, spoil the child....
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before or after he slaps her?
:lol
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
two days to go i reckon. b ut who knows we have had the wood on port the last couple of yrs.
Either way, I will stand and applaud a Tiger, that despite his limitations, has put his body on the line for over 150 games and contributed in a meaningful manner to the betterment of the club.
That sir, deserves some respect.
good for you
when commenting on him as a player i refuse to sugar coat it just because hes retired. in fact to change ones opinion just because hes retired would be damn superficial imo.
You just dont get it, do you. It is about acknowledging a contribution towards the club not another critique.
exactly. All of a sudden acknowledging someones effort becomes changing ones opinion.
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I can sort of understand claws point ..its a bit like when someone dies and at the funeral they say what a great person he/she was when in fact they maybe had plundered bank accounts or ripped the tax system off etc
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I can sort of understand claws point ..its a bit like when someone dies and at the funeral they say what a great person he/she was when in fact they maybe had plundered bank accounts or ripped the tax system off etc
Analogy is a bit off G, not saying he was a great player - he wasn't - he was very average, just acknowledging his service as a player in the yellow and black.
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Agreed Tony
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
two days to go i reckon. b ut who knows we have had the wood on port the last couple of yrs.
Either way, I will stand and applaud a Tiger, that despite his limitations, has put his body on the line for over 150 games and contributed in a meaningful manner to the betterment of the club.
That sir, deserves some respect.
good for you
when commenting on him as a player i refuse to sugar coat it just because hes retired. in fact to change ones opinion just because hes retired would be damn superficial imo.
Nobody is saying you have to change your opinion on him, Claw, but there is a time and a place for your mediocrity rants and this is not one of them. Show some class for the retirement of a tiger player.
fair enough. he has clearly been a good servant of the club well respected etc in this im happy to acknowledge him with the rest of you.
it would look very ordinary of me to come on here and applaud him as a player after 10 odd yrs of criticising his game though.
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fair enough. he has clearly been a good servant of the club well respected etc in this im happy to acknowledge him with the rest of you.
it would look very ordinary of me to come on here and applaud him as a player after 10 odd yrs of criticising his game though.
I agree with you and I reckon if you had said this right from the start you wouldn't have got whacked like you did. :thumbsup
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I'm still staggered by the timing of this.
Very strange.
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The boys will be emotional I reckon.
Lets hope they can channel it and smash port.
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I'm still staggered by the timing of this.
Very strange.
Worries me a bit.
Hopefully his general health is ok. It's something that someone who was told he had a serious illness would do......
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just on the circumstances. is it really a surprise at all.
at the end of 2012 he was ready to retire then. wasnt he talked into going around again for 2013. something along those lines anyway. hes had a good 2013 and thats kept him up and about.
but.
now in 2014 injuries and age have really kicked in the body is feeling it even more and hes truly had enough. i reckon this is not something that has just happened but has been happening since 2012.
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I can sort of understand claws point ..its a bit like when someone dies and at the funeral they say what a great person he/she was when in fact they maybe had plundered bank accounts or ripped the tax system off etc
Analogy is a bit off G, not saying he was a great player - he wasn't - he was very average, just acknowledging his service as a player in the yellow and black.
selling him a bit short TM, very average players generally don't reach the platitudes that notch a B&F in a year, The side wins 15 games . He rose to the challenge to become a respected player and key member of the side. I feel for him that his fitness road blocked him from backing up last years stellar season , a delayed start to the year and was never able to get going. This was really no major shock, although the timing could have been a bit better , I wish him the very best, a fine young fellow
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I can sort of understand claws point ..its a bit like when someone dies and at the funeral they say what a great person he/she was when in fact they maybe had plundered bank accounts or ripped the tax system off etc
Analogy is a bit off G, not saying he was a great player - he wasn't - he was very average, just acknowledging his service as a player in the yellow and black.
selling him a bit short TM, very average players generally don't reach the platitudes that notch a B&F in a year, The side wins 15 games . He rose to the challenge to become a respected player and key member of the side. I feel for him that his fitness road blocked him from backing up last years stellar season , a delayed start to the year and was never able to get going. This was really no major shock, although the timing could have been a bit better , I wish him the very best, a fine young fellow
Don't want to spoil the thread bj, so I wont say anything except, you know my feelings on last seasons b&f
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
two days to go i reckon. b ut who knows we have had the wood on port the last couple of yrs.
Either way, I will stand and applaud a Tiger, that despite his limitations, has put his body on the line for over 150 games and contributed in a meaningful manner to the betterment of the club.
That sir, deserves some respect.
good for you
when commenting on him as a player i refuse to sugar coat it just because hes retired. in fact to change ones opinion just because hes retired would be damn superficial imo.
You just dont get it, do you. It is about acknowledging a contribution towards the club not another critique.
Newman seems to be fair game
Yet jacko is not?
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another glass half full goes. hooray for small mercies i suppose. but wait what will they do in the off season. well most likely go out and get another glass half full.
we applaud mediocrity especially when it retires, but you know what im not being critical of people we have in the main only ever known mediocrity.
He's ten times the man you'll ever be, and a hundred times the Tiger.
Bloke gave 100% to the club which culminated in a B&F.
You're just an idiot.
Is the 2 weeks up yet before claw retires ? :whistle
Would think a life member and B&F winner announcing his retirement would not be an opportunity to hijack another thread with a mindless rant .
two days to go i reckon. b ut who knows we have had the wood on port the last couple of yrs.
Either way, I will stand and applaud a Tiger, that despite his limitations, has put his body on the line for over 150 games and contributed in a meaningful manner to the betterment of the club.
That sir, deserves some respect.
good for you
when commenting on him as a player i refuse to sugar coat it just because hes retired. in fact to change ones opinion just because hes retired would be damn superficial imo.
You just dont get it, do you. It is about acknowledging a contribution towards the club not another critique.
Newman seems to be fair game
Yet jacko is not?
I think Newman should have retired last year. The fact that he hasn't even retired this year probably has a lot to do with it.
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Newman seems to be fair game
Yet jacko is not?
It's retirement.
Once you retire you become a great bloke and a great player for the club.
Newman will be a whipping boy all of next year until he retires and then he will be the best clubman the RFC has ever produced.
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fair enough. he has clearly been a good servant of the club well respected etc in this im happy to acknowledge him with the rest of you.
it would look very ordinary of me to come on here and applaud him as a player after 10 odd yrs of criticising his game though.
I agree with you and I reckon if you had said this right from the start you wouldn't have got whacked like you did. :thumbsup
got whacked?? you mean conform or cop it from the masses who disagree.
lots of double standards around here i at least stay true to what i think.
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Newman seems to be fair game
Yet jacko is not?
It's retirement.
Once you retire you become a great bloke and a great player for the club.
Newman will be a whipping boy all of next year until he retires and then he will be the best clubman the RFC has ever produced.
lol so so true. gotta love the hypocricy. yet those of us who are true to their beliefs are lambasted.
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Newman seems to be fair game
Yet jacko is not?
It's retirement.
Once you retire you become a great bloke and a great player for the club.
Newman will be a whipping boy all of next year until he retires and then he will be the best clubman the RFC has ever produced.
lol so so true. gotta love the hypocricy. yet those of us who are true to their beliefs are lambasted.
It's not double standards, it's showing some respect. I wasn't a huge fan of Jacko as a player but I'm prepared to put his limitations as a player to one side and acknowledge his contribution to the club.
I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept to grasp unless you are a narrow minded tosser
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fair enough. he has clearly been a good servant of the club well respected etc in this im happy to acknowledge him with the rest of you.
it would look very ordinary of me to come on here and applaud him as a player after 10 odd yrs of criticising his game though.
I agree with you and I reckon if you had said this right from the start you wouldn't have got whacked like you did. :thumbsup
got whacked?? you mean conform or cop it from the masses who disagree.
lots of double standards around here i at least stay true to what i think.
No, I mean got whacked, which you did. It wasn't about your opinion on Jackson which I agreed with, I was never a Jackson fan but I did give credit to his season last year, but it was about your need to wail in when people were paying respect to his efforts for the club now that he has retired. Time and place Claw, and you got this one wrong. And for someone who is always banging on about how you can admit when you are wrong, I think the double standards you allude to are staring you right in the mirror.
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its funny, over the years we have a constant tirade from claw against average players who milked every last drop of what limited talent they have, yet i cannot recall one critique of a talented footballer who didnt get the best out of themselves.
I know which type i have more respect for. None of us have any say in how much talent we have, but in terms of effort and hardwork to simply be the best they can, everyone is their own master of that destiny.
Ron barrasi once said something about not being proud of how talented you are, but what you achieve with that talent.
Claw perhaps you would enjoy the football more if you didnt have expectations of creating an All Australian quality side -it just doesnt happen. all teams, even the good ones, have average battlers, but with the right players and coaches they fill their role. There have also been some absolute hacks play in premiership winning sides.
Just look at how sharod wellingham has performed going from a top side to a middle of the road side
You would probably also get more enjoyment if you didnt think that your views on how things should be done are the best and only ways. All this does is create the more than apparant angst in you when Richmond doesnt do things your way.
lifes too short......
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if you want a positive im happy to go along with good club man most likely a good bloke and someone who gave 100%. but that doesnt make him a good player or his footy career an out standing career.
Doesn't mean it can't be acknowledged either. Don't think anyone has changed there opinion on him but there is no need to criticise him anymore so why bother?
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Thanks for the service Jacko. Truely stood up for the players & took the hard knocks with Tucky. Players like you are hard to find & never have long careers. Kicked some rubbish goals also ;D A very wise choice. Good Luck with your future :gotigers
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I blame the selfish timing of this announcement for the loss today.
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Not sure if you are serious Richo but I find that announcement on the eve of the finals as completely mind blowing
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I am.
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I blame the selfish timing of this announcement for the loss today.
Same - except applied to Newman.
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I blame the selfish timing of this announcement for the loss today.
Crap he wanted to retire last year. It was no surprise. The captain & coach choosing to go against the wind cost us
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Its all about jacko
Monday wwouldhave nnot be good enough
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why couldn't he wait a few weeks to announce it?
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would we have won today if we had him in the 22 to tag Boak or somebody?
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would we have won today if we had him in the 22 to tag Boak or somebody?
His got a whole leg problem. His hip is not good & that's the reason he retired. His body was not up to finals footy.
His timing means nothing as footballers don't prepare for games about retiring players on their mind. they been winning as a team without him. most players call retirement after the last of the home & away season.
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why was he in the squad then?
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why was he in the squad then?
To give him a chance to get up for the game but he couldn't, was last roll of the dice for him and decided enough was enough
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why was he in the squad then?
cause he didn't pull up well.
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so the 2 days to the game were going to make a huge difference?
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We certainly need one or two mids of his size and less jockey weight types. That's the difference with finals football.
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Massive units like need and wingard
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(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/2d/2d6336a197ec4af1acf6d8b2b131d5b73dfd75e8f9322407102840b8c909f021.jpg)
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:clapping
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Massive units like need and wingard
Where they starting out of the pivot ::)
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We won the clearances
We just poo
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From the AFL website ...
Daniel Jackson has revealed he planned to tell coach Damien Hardwick of his decision to retire via email before deciding to do it in person instead.
Jackson pulled the pin on his 156-game career on the eve of Richmond's elimination final against Port Adelaide after losing faith in his body.
He retired with a year to run on his contract and just 12 months after winning the club's best and fairest.
"A few wise heads who had been through it before said 'you owe it to yourself and your teammates to do it in person and be able to shake hands and look them in the eye and give them the reasons'," Jackson told 3AW.
"That's kind of why it got brought forward."
Jackson was named in the 25-man squad for the elimination final against Port Adelaide but decided on the Friday morning he would struggle to get through four quarters after an injury-hit year.
"I was fairly confident that I wouldn't last a full game and I'd battled through some VFL games the weeks before," he said.
"Friday morning I woke up and thought 'I'll be OK, this is just nerves'.
"But I came into the football club and I thought 'Nah, I can't go out there and get injured and leave us a man down in such a big game'.
"So I had to go tell Damien Hardwick 'I don't know if you've made a decision yet but it's probably better that I don't play because I don't want to let anyone down'."
The 28-year-old then told Hardwick to make plans for next season that didn't include him.
Jackson said he told Hardwick: "For the same reason I'm not going to play next year because you guys have got big things to do and I don't want to slow you down," he said.
"I really didn't want to get to the start of next season and have the body give up or the mind not have the will to keep grinding on and leave the guys a man down for 2015."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-10/truck-parks-at-punt-rd
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selfish bastard
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:lol
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Hopefully he changes his mind before summer. He ran 10km the day after retirement. 3 more years of jacko would be handy in the middle
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Hopefully he changes his mind before summer. He ran 10km the day after retirement. 3 more years of jacko would be handy in the middle
That'd be right
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I blame the selfish timing of this announcement for the loss today.
Think he should have waited until just before they ran out on the field, that would have had a bigger impact.
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Hopefully he changes his mind before summer. He ran 10km the day after retirement. 3 more years of jacko would be handy in the middle
Ummm Im happy to part ways and move on