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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 02, 2014, 07:07:51 AM
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Who needs a big pre-season at your AFL club?
Jon Pierik
The Age
November 2, 2014
Richmond
Ben Griffiths
The Tigers hope he can lock down centre half-forward next season, having enjoyed a solid 2014 when he was named the club's most improved player. He led the club in contested marks last season but, according to coach Damien Hardwick, still needs to show greater consistency. He finished the season with 12 goals but the Tigers want that raised to more than 40 next season. While his fitness "isn't bad", Hardwick said Griffiths needs to have greater belief in himself. A strong pre-season can only help in this regard, ensuring he and Jack Riewoldt become a match-winning one-two punch.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/who-needs-a-big-preseason-at-your-afl-club-20141101-11d5tm.html
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I would have said Grigg, Hampson and oh..Edwards... :whistle
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Yep Griffiths is a huge piece of the puzzle.
Others (among everyone) that need to take a step forward this year are Astbury, Conca, Vickery, Dea & Elton.
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Griffiths, Vickery, Conca, Grimes, Vlastuin.
If these players begin to play good consistent football, we will go along way.
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After this year's start the whole team needs a big preseason.
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Grimes. Astbury. Morris.
Deledio. Rance. Ellis.
T.Hunt. Cotchin. Conca.
S.Edwards. Griffiths. Lennon.
Riewoldt. McBean. Martin.
Maric. Vlastuin. Miles.
Vickery
#12
Foley/Houli/mattdea/bachelor
Knights
On top of that, out best player require a good injury run :-\
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I would have said Grigg, Hampson and oh..Edwards... :whistle
The kids in the vfl side
Will be hoping grugg hampson Chaplin have big years :whistle
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Actually, Conca needs a big pre-season and a big year, he has really fallen behind expectations.
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Actually, Conca needs a big pre-season and a big year, he has really fallen behind expectations.
Ellis houli Foley...
Pretty mmuch everyone needs to come good to some extent
Given the age of most of the list natural development must be kixkig in at some stage :angel: :pray
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Actually, Conca needs a big pre-season and a big year, he has really fallen behind expectations.
Ellis houli Foley...
Pretty mmuch everyone needs to come good to some extent
Given the age of most of the list natural development must be kixkig in at some stage :angel: :pray
Yeah, its those middle tier players that really need to lift.
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lol after this yr and the whole team admitting it was not fit enough the whole freakin lot of em should be doing the hardest possible pre season.
gut running and tackling would be the two areas id absolutely flog em in.
its time they as a group learnt a defensive side to their games if they cant do it then just pee em off doesnt matter who they are.
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They all need a big pre-season
Agree with claw that focus needs to be on gut running & tackling
Having said that I reckon the fringe blokes who got 1 year deals eg Elton, Dea and those in the last year of contract eg Arnott need massive pre-seasons and years or they will be saying "bye-bye"
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They all need a big pre-season
Agree with claw that focus needs to be on gut running & tackling
Having said that I reckon the fringe blokes who got 1 year deals eg Elton, Dea and those in the last year of contract eg Arnott need massive pre-seasons and years or they will be saying "bye-bye"
Contracts List:
2015: Arnot, Cotchin, Dea, Elton, Foley, Gordon, Grigg, Grimes, Knights, Lennon, Lloyd, Martin, McDonough, McIntosh, Newman, Petterd, Rance.
:-\
2016: Astbury, Batchelor, Chaplin, Conca, S.Edwards, Griffiths, Hampson, Houli, Maric, McBean, Miles, Riewoldt, Vickery, Vlastuin
:banghead
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Yep, big pre-seasons x 42!
We need to get our fitness levels up, too often we get outrun by fitter sides like Norf & Carlton. Lets face it - getting exposed for fitness is the stupidest way to lose a football match & we got caught out looking pretty stupid at times! Agree that we need to gut run & tackle all summer, then its about disposal skills! Fitness gives you chances, but skills seal the deal! :gotigers
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No need to expand on the above - you've all nailed it - BIG PRESEASON!
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When do we start expecting articles about the hardest preseason ever and such and such bloke tearing up the track?
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We have already had one, its on this forum.
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Who needs a big pre-season at your AFL club?
Jon Pierik
The Age
November 2, 2014
Richmond
Ben Griffiths
The Tigers hope he can lock down centre half-forward next season, having enjoyed a solid 2014 when he was named the club's most improved player. He led the club in contested marks last season but, according to coach Damien Hardwick, still needs to show greater consistency. He finished the season with 12 goals but the Tigers want that raised to more than 40 next season. While his fitness "isn't bad", Hardwick said Griffiths needs to have greater belief in himself. A strong pre-season can only help in this regard, ensuring he and Jack Riewoldt become a match-winning one-two punch.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/who-needs-a-big-preseason-at-your-afl-club-20141101-11d5tm.html
so now griff is going to be the other kpd where does that leave vickery. griffiths actually shows more in the ruck than vickery vickery shows more as a fwd. neither have shown enough in either role imo. imo we can play just one and the one should play as a ruck/fwd and we go out and find a high quality 193 195 cm permanent kpf.
i know i harp about it but we need to find a permanent kpf to partner jack. maybe griffiths can become that player i have my doubts he takes few marks contested or un contested in the f50 and does not hit the scorboard. even if he does become a good chf we need more tall fwds on the list. another two at least.
ffs even if all of vickery griffiths and mcbean are classified permanent kpfs there is still only 4 tall fwds when you throw jack into the mix. give me a mccartin type and a lamb/kietel type to compliment the tyupes we already have.
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Why would you want a chf 5-7cm smaller than giff when you have griff
Griff chf
Vickery #2 ruck
If be playing
X - griff - x
Riewoldt - McBean - x
Maric
Vickery #2 ruck
Elton as back up. Only one short
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Vickery - Riewoldt - Martin
Deledio - Griffiths - Gordon
Could swap a small for Deledio if we had the guts to get one.
Then Deledio could go HBF for rebound.
What a shame our list management only chased kids like Trengove and Armitage. So much quality and potential swapped between clubs this year and we couldn't find anything worth chasin properly. No inside mids to protect Chimp and free up the likes of Lids/Martin.
Glad we got Hunt for SFA but still it's hardly been a successful trade/FA period.
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Id like to see, against the shye teams, us pack the forward line and trust the kids in the middle:
Cotchin. Griffiths. Martin.
Riewoldt. McBean/Vickery. Deledio
:shh
of course half forward flankers are more midfeilders these days but still, looks nice on paper
Vickery - Riewoldt - Martin
Deledio - Griffiths - Gordon
Could swap a small for Deledio if we had the guts to get one.
Then Deledio could go HBF for rebound.
What a shame our list management only chased kids like Trengove and Armitage. So much quality and potential swapped between clubs this year and we couldn't find anything worth chasin properly. No inside mids to protect Chimp and free up the likes of Lids/Martin.
Glad we got Hunt for SFA but still it's hardly been a successful trade/FA period.
McBean is a interesting prospect.
I think Shane Edwards would be damaging as a small forward.
Th forward line should have goals in it
- Riewoldt, griff, McBean, Vickery
- deledio martin, cotchin, sedwards, Gordon, llyod, Lennon vlastuin ellis
In theory cotchin should get some cover from: Martin, miles, ,vlastuin, hunt Conca . :pray
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When do we start expecting articles about the hardest preseason ever and such and such bloke tearing up the track?
In about a month if history means anything. :help
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Word is the hard yards are being done already.
Only concern is though there is no Matty White in front of the endurance running
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Word is the hard yards are being done already.
Only concern is though there is no Matty White in front of the endurance running
Matty White didn't even make Ports top 10 in the B&F so what's your point
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Who needs a big preseason?
Richmond!
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Word is the hard yards are being done already.
Only concern is though there is no Matty White in front of the endurance running
Matty White didn't even make Ports top 10 in the B&F so what's your point
There is no point, there never is to his posts, they are never relevant and they are basically all about baiting posters or pulling the pee out of the players..
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l need a huge pre-season in the bar. No commitments in 2015 ;D
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l need a huge pre-season in the bar. No commitments in 2015 ;D
Need to make a pilgrimage up this way TM. Plenty of Humpty Brew (my home brew) and Humpty Chew (my beef jerky) to satisfy the most avid and discerning RFC member. :thumbsup
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Conca and Vlastun need to improve IMO next year for us to go places.
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People needn't worry about Vlastuin too much, second year blues and even then hardly the most severe case - his dropping of simple marks suggested to me that perhaps he wasn't quite as switched on as he needed to be for some reason. Still had his moments when we stared winning and is still one of the few in the side who's actually stood up in a final (v Carlton). Kid will be a star. Conca on the other hand.....
Really the entire side, the fitness & coaching staff all need a big pre-season - have done since the Tommy left, or at least since his legacy wore off.
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l need a huge pre-season in the bar. No commitments in 2015 ;D
Need to make a pilgrimage up this way TM. Plenty of Humpty Brew (my home brew) and Humpty Chew (my beef jerky) to satisfy the most avid and discerning RFC member. :thumbsup
l'm coming up that way next year ;D can't knock back some good home brew & some beef jerky ;D
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Taylor Hunt.
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l need a huge pre-season in the bar. No commitments in 2015 ;D
Need to make a pilgrimage up this way TM. Plenty of Humpty Brew (my home brew) and Humpty Chew (my beef jerky) to satisfy the most avid and discerning RFC member. :thumbsup
l'm coming up that way next year ;D can't knock back some good home brew & some beef jerky ;D
Lol. Keep in touch mate, I'll stockpile some when I've got dates!! ;D :thumbsup
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If anything I think Benny G needs a psychologist or therapist to overcome his self doubt/confidence issues? The guy is a tank and can take a grab in packs and can kick goals. I think his confidence is the main thing that's stopping him from tearing it up as opposed to his fitness/playing ability.