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Title: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 01:28:37 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/neil-balme-to-work-at-collingwood-replacing-rodney-eade/story-fnp04d70-1227118233311

yet people on here wonder why some of us constantly get baffled at the direction of the club. For years some of us has said  to target Balme but no we get stuck with Dan the man and hacks like FJ.

stuff we are hopeless

Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 01:31:29 PM
WTF do they do with our money???? We didnt replace leppa and probably wont the other bloke who left, yet we expect to win a flag by reducing our footy department spending.

NFI this oprganisation.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 10, 2014, 01:31:45 PM
Pathetic club

Never to see a flag in iur lifetime
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Phil Mrakov on November 10, 2014, 01:32:54 PM
Why didn't he come to Richmond, we have had a vacancy for 12 months. Collingwood lose a bloke and replace him with the best straight away (and he's a Richmond person too)  :banghead
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 01:36:51 PM
Why didn't he come to Richmond

because we are skata and never get on the front foot with these type of things. Instead, we put our resources into finding gems like hampson and dan the man who nearly cost us martin.



Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 10, 2014, 01:45:27 PM
 :facepalm

perhaps we will promote Andrew McQualter into to director of football
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 10, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
I quit
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 10, 2014, 02:01:28 PM
Balme has been pretty ill recently.  Not sure this will be a 10 year appointment.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 10, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
Whinging molls at it again.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Diocletian on November 10, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
Whinging molls at it again.

Whinging moll whinging about whinging molls again.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 02:16:52 PM
Balme has been pretty ill recently.  Not sure this will be a 10 year appointment.

Y&B who cares about the length of the contract its about bringing in some winning experience to our club, and i think we have a right to ask why they didnt replace leppa last year and this year also. The club thinks the void will be filled with mcqualter type spuds
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Penelope on November 10, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
why is mcqualter no good as a coach?
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: JP Tiger on November 10, 2014, 02:32:35 PM
Balmey- The AFL's answer to Jabba the Hutt!     ;D 
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 02:42:51 PM
why is mcqualter no good as a coach?

is he a player or a development coach? Too many hats. He comes from a great club  in saints and really didn't understand the game as a player so chances are he wont in development.

Also how did he go this year with our young developing players? They are coming along in leaps and bounds even pushing out newman and co from what i saw this year.

Bailey also has been there what 1-2 years and i think he should be shown the door and  replaced by Monkhurst





Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Penelope on November 10, 2014, 03:09:33 PM
lol anyone that plays a number of AFL games understands the game, paricularily those that only have average ability.

just out of curiosity, what players has monkhurst turned into senior afl players in a year?
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 03:26:23 PM
lol anyone that plays a number of AFL games understands the game, paricularily those that only have average ability.

just out of curiosity, what players has monkhurst turned into senior afl players in a year?

plenty more than mcqualter ever did or will. He was one of the worst players i ever saw and that's saying something. How is he supposed to help develop our youngsters when he has to play for the VFL side?

hawks 2 flags 4 consecutive prelims. Record of monkey and his other assistants speak for themselves. Look at Hale, lowden, ceglar and how they went. they coudlnt even squeeze mcevoy into the team for various parts of the year.

Who do we have to take us to the next level in our footy department. We cannot afford a full time developer as mcqualuter is a player as well is he not.

We need to get smart and be bald. We have a need to develop our talls especially as maric is a few years away from finishing up so why not get the best out there. We have an issue with aboriginal players in that we cant handle them, so lets change that and poach Mickey O to turn that around. I'm not saying we have to do all of those things but stuff me we are never bald with our approach, always play second fiddle to the other clubs.




Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 10, 2014, 03:39:40 PM
why is mcqualter no good as a coach?

Why is he good?

How many flags he coach at bell park or st beades?
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: tony_montana on November 10, 2014, 03:44:07 PM
I always hoped Balme's next club would be ours. That won't happen now sadly.

A good example of how a strong club goes out and gets things done. They don't care how hard it may be, they just do.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Penelope on November 10, 2014, 03:50:48 PM
lol anyone that plays a number of AFL games understands the game, paricularily those that only have average ability.

just out of curiosity, what players has monkhurst turned into senior afl players in a year?

plenty more than mcqualter ever did or will. He was one of the worst players i ever saw and that's saying something. How is he supposed to help develop our youngsters when he has to play for the VFL side?

hawks 2 flags 4 consecutive prelims. Record of monkey and his other assistants speak for themselves. Look at Hale, lowden, ceglar and how they went. they coudlnt even squeeze mcevoy into the team for various parts of the year.


Who do we have to take us to the next level in our footy department. We cannot afford a full time developer as mcqualuter is a player as well is he not.

We need to get smart and be bald. We have a need to develop our talls especially as maric is a few years away from finishing up so why not get the best out there. We have an issue with aboriginal players in that we cant handle them, so lets change that and poach Mickey O to turn that around. I'm not saying we have to do all of those things but stuff me we are never bald with our approach, always play second fiddle to the other clubs.

but which ones was monkey responsible for and which ones did he do in a year.

playing as well as coaching is a different issue as whether he has what it takes to coach, as is how much natural ability someone has as a footballer
why is mcqualter no good as a coach?

Why is he good?

How many flags he coach at bell park or st beades?

And i said he was a good coach where?
if there is a more inane, simple minded way to answer a question as this i am yet to see it  :banghead
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 10, 2014, 03:54:28 PM
You are allowed to ask questions but others can not?
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Penelope on November 10, 2014, 04:01:20 PM
no, not at all, but i cant understand why you would ask me about something i never said?

that is just bizarre.

nor does it even go close to addressing the question at hand, which unlike your question, is asking someone to explain or elaborate on a statement they actually made.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 04:01:56 PM
making too much sense Bents so i doubt he will reply.

Al needs to look at David Hale and how he has transformed his game. Thats what happens when you have quality people developing you.

I guess some blokes are just happy the club never puts their balls on the line in an attempt to win a flag
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Penelope on November 10, 2014, 04:06:41 PM
no, i thought perhaps you would have been able to provide some sort of insight into your view on what makes a good coach and what attributes these blokes have or lack that helped you form your outspoken opinions on them..

clearly i gave you too much credit.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Dice on November 10, 2014, 04:16:19 PM
We need to get smart and be bald.

I'm all for us improving but I aint shaving my head for the cause.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 04:18:44 PM
We need to get smart and be bald.

I'm all for us improving but I aint shaving my head for the cause.

 :lol :lol

Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 10, 2014, 05:11:04 PM
Calm down goldielocks.

I am simply playing devils advocate

The question raised by you good " self. - what's so bad about Andrew"

. I. Merely stated what's so good.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: The Big Richo on November 10, 2014, 05:19:01 PM
Simple fact is for a big time club we don't make enough appointments that make people sit up and take notice.

Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: tony_montana on November 10, 2014, 05:36:34 PM
Simple fact is for a big time club we don't make enough appointments that make people sit up and take notice.

Probably bc we're not a big time club anymore
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Penelope on November 10, 2014, 05:41:20 PM
Calm down goldielocks.

I am simply playing devils advocate

The question raised by you good " self. - what's so bad about Andrew"

. I. Merely stated what's so good.
which is a deflection, not an answer
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 10, 2014, 05:43:28 PM
I don't see what the problem is.

I want us to be find the next "Neil Balme". Balme is now at the end of his career.  He has health issues and the input you think he'd give would be limited.

We should be going after someone 20 years younger who is still good and getting better...
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: (•))(©™ on November 10, 2014, 06:05:51 PM
Nor do they target that ^^

See whats going on ??
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 06:11:09 PM
Simple fact is for a big time club we don't make enough appointments that make people sit up and take notice.

Probably bc we're not a big time club anymore

 Supporter numbers say that's not true mate. We do our bit year in year out, do they?

We are a dumb footy club and never proactive to get ahead of the game. You only have to look at the ludicrous decision to not replace leppa. I suppose they think we are locked and loaded so there's no need for it



Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 10, 2014, 06:59:08 PM
Calm down goldielocks.

I am simply playing devils advocate

The question raised by you good " self. - what's so bad about Andrew"

. I. Merely stated what's so good.
which is a deflection, not an answer

 :whistle
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: tony_montana on November 10, 2014, 08:01:47 PM
Simple fact is for a big time club we don't make enough appointments that make people sit up and take notice.

Probably bc we're not a big time club anymore

 Supporter numbers say that's not true mate. We do our bit year in year out, do they?

We are a dumb footy club and never proactive to get ahead of the game. You only have to look at the ludicrous decision to not replace leppa. I suppose they think we are locked and loaded so there's no need for it

Yep - should clarify, supporter wise we are - but we don't act, or perform like a big club
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: dwaino on November 10, 2014, 08:29:01 PM
Is Eddie paying Geelong compensation?
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Diocletian on November 10, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
Is Eddie paying Geelong compensation?

Nope - Balme was out of contract.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: dwaino on November 10, 2014, 08:31:56 PM
I see.

Carry on then  :whistle
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 10, 2014, 09:59:48 PM
Simple fact is for a big time club we don't make enough appointments that make people sit up and take notice.

Probably bc we're not a big time club anymore

 Supporter numbers say that's not true mate. We do our bit year in year out, do they?

We are a dumb footy club and never proactive to get ahead of the game. You only have to look at the ludicrous decision to not replace leppa. I suppose they think we are locked and loaded so there's no need for it

Yep - should clarify, supporter wise we are - but we don't act, or perform like a big club

Spot on TM. They just don't ever seem hungry for success



Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on November 10, 2014, 10:51:14 PM
He's a 62 year old geriatric who getting his pension from Collingwood. Get over it.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 11, 2014, 11:35:02 AM
He's a 62 year old geriatric who getting his pension from Collingwood. Get over it.

How old would you like the director of football - or what the offical position was titled at Geelong and collingwood to be?

28?
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Owl on November 12, 2014, 05:00:51 AM
Some people just didn't want to come to Richmond.  Too painful.  A lot of em got burned coming back in the past trying to do something for the club and then getting ripped apart by ferals.  Some just weren't died in the wool tiger people and served as employees during their time at the club and moved on despite their fame or notoriety.  Malthouse and Sheedy are both examples of that.  They were never tiger men, they played for us, that is all.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 12, 2014, 10:24:04 AM
Some people just didn't want to come to Richmond.  Too painful.  A lot of em got burned coming back in the past trying to do something for the club and then getting ripped apart by ferals.  Some just weren't died in the wool tiger people and served as employees during their time at the club and moved on despite their fame or notoriety.  Malthouse and Sheedy are both examples of that.  They were never tiger men, they played for us, that is all.
Went to hear Neil talk at my daughters school a few years ago. Always talks about the tigers and his time there which are some of his best football memories. Gets frustrated talking about them too saying they keep doing the wrong things.  I'm sure he would have come if we offered enough money to him but we have already committed to Dan.  People forget how well Dan handled the Dusty fiasco last year and was lauded by the whole football community.  I think we should give him a chance. Blair is the man in the gunsights IMHO.  It is he who grades players and gives the advice who stays and who goes and who we should get.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: camboon on November 12, 2014, 10:32:09 AM
He didn't really want to leave Geelong.
Collingwood are paying him through the nose - good on him, His heart wont be in it  for long as he will be looking to retirement
I hope he can now afford that operation to extract his fist from various Carlton players heads - He will always be a Tigerman in my book .
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 12, 2014, 11:08:45 AM
. Blair is the man in the gunsights IMHO.  It is he who grades players and gives the advice who stays and who goes and who we should get.

 :gobdrop :gobdrop really? You reckon

 :rollin

Welcome to the dark side = my side  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on November 12, 2014, 11:12:51 AM
. Blair is the man in the gunsights IMHO.  It is he who grades players and gives the advice who stays and who goes and who we should get.

 :gobdrop :gobdrop really? You reckon

 :rollin

Welcome to the dark side = my side  :thumbsup
Don't ever underestimate the power of the dark side Obi Wan! ;D
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 12, 2014, 11:45:48 AM
Some people just didn't want to come to Richmond.  Too painful.  A lot of em got burned coming back in the past trying to do something for the club and then getting ripped apart by ferals.  Some just weren't died in the wool tiger people and served as employees during their time at the club and moved on despite their fame or notoriety.  Malthouse and Sheedy are both examples of that.  They were never tiger men, they played for us, that is all.

Times have Changed..

Come to richmond and the packages includes Maric/deledio/cotchin/Martin

Riewoldt/rance book ends

Kids like miles, Lennon, vlastuin

Could be worse and was
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Diocletian on November 12, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
Sheedy played for Hafey. His mother was a mad lifelong Richmond supporter who still barracked hard for them whenever they played Essendon when he was coach.



Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 13, 2014, 11:20:29 AM
Bomber the drug cheat is available
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 14, 2014, 10:23:57 AM
Calm down goldielocks.

I am simply playing devils advocate

The question raised by you good " self. - what's so bad about Andrew"

. I. Merely stated what's so good.
which is a deflection, not an answer

ok
he was a crap player he has not coached
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Yeahright on November 14, 2014, 02:29:14 PM
hawks 2 flags 4 consecutive prelims. Record of monkey and his other assistants speak for themselves. Look at Hale, lowden, ceglar and how they went. they coudlnt even squeeze mcevoy into the team for various parts of the year.

Sorry but to include Lowden is just too funny :lol
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 14, 2014, 02:40:40 PM
hawks 2 flags 4 consecutive prelims. Record of monkey and his other assistants speak for themselves. Look at Hale, lowden, ceglar and how they went. they coudlnt even squeeze mcevoy into the team for various parts of the year.

Sorry but to include Lowden is just too funny :lol

i only include him cause they got draft picks for him, similar to what we paid for MC  Hammer
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Penelope on November 14, 2014, 06:39:14 PM
Calm down goldielocks.

I am simply playing devils advocate

The question raised by you good " self. - what's so bad about Andrew"

. I. Merely stated what's so good.
which is a deflection, not an answer

ok
he was a crap player he has not coached
do you honestly belive that being a naturally talented footballer is important to being able to coach.?

care to explain why?

are you going so far as to suggest that you cannot be a successful coach if you are not a talented footballer?
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 14, 2014, 11:11:58 PM
Whats he done as a coach

Long CV? Chairy case ffs
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Yeahright on November 15, 2014, 12:06:36 AM
hawks 2 flags 4 consecutive prelims. Record of monkey and his other assistants speak for themselves. Look at Hale, lowden, ceglar and how they went. they coudlnt even squeeze mcevoy into the team for various parts of the year.

Sorry but to include Lowden is just too funny :lol

i only include him cause they got draft picks for him, similar to what we paid for MC  Hammer

Carry on
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: froars on November 15, 2014, 12:14:27 AM
He's never shown any desire to come to us - WTF would you want him?

He almost seems ashamed to have ever been associated with us lol
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Francois Jackson on November 15, 2014, 08:12:01 AM
He's never shown any desire to come to us - WTF would you want him?

He almost seems ashamed to have ever been associated with us lol

How would you know? It's not as if we chased him like bucks did

Money talks and bull poo walks

We are footys tightest club and that poor fella who comes on here probably doesn't even get paid
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 15, 2014, 09:37:28 AM

He almost seems ashamed to have ever been associated with us lol

Can't agree with that statement froars

Still attends functions, fundraisers huge supporter of the Tommy Hafey Club. Speaks glowing of his time at the RFC

Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Penelope on November 15, 2014, 09:59:58 AM
Whats he done as a coach

Long CV? Chairy case ffs
nothing, but no one is claiming he has, and everyone has to start somewhere, which is normally as an assistant.

OK, Ive answered your question, any chance of you the doing the same?

so far we have determined that you think we should only take experienced coaches, which severely narrows the field.

can you confirm that you also think we should narrow the field even further to those that were naturally talented footballers as these are the only players who can go onto become good coaches?

Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: froars on November 15, 2014, 04:30:04 PM

He almost seems ashamed to have ever been associated with us lol

Can't agree with that statement froars

Still attends functions, fundraisers huge supporter of the Tommy Hafey Club. Speaks glowing of his time at the RFC
Maybe he just likes a free feed and booze  :lol

Can't imagine he's never been approached - then again ...
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Judge Roughneck on November 15, 2014, 04:49:57 PM
So we are aiming for coaches without playing or coaching success

I think I will apply  :gotigers
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Penelope on November 15, 2014, 07:11:43 PM
think you will need to do a better job of answering questions directed at you or explaining your views if you get an interview. good luck all the same.
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: cub on November 15, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
And to do with Richmond?
Saw balmy a long while ago, he's a tiger, why isn't he here?
Title: Re: Balme to the Pies
Post by: Owl on November 16, 2014, 10:40:07 AM
Stench of Collingwood is a hard one to scrub off, ask the Clokepeks