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Title: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: dwaino on March 17, 2015, 10:09:20 AM
Newman in doubt for round 1. All the best to Newy's health but a blessing in disguise, hopefully someone stands up to claim the spot.

http://m.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-03-17/newman-suffers-setback
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Phil Mrakov on March 17, 2015, 10:17:41 AM
Newman should've gave it away last year and wouldn't be in this position. His body is not up to it anymore it's the harsh reality
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 17, 2015, 10:29:05 AM
Newman should've gave it away last year and wouldn't be in this position. His body is not up to it anymore it's the harsh reality

mate honestly STFU
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Phil Mrakov on March 17, 2015, 11:31:46 AM
Newman should've gave it away last year and wouldn't be in this position. His body is not up to it anymore it's the harsh reality

mate honestly STFU
He will be 33 in May. Should've given it away as he's not good enough anymore. I do wish him well though footy is a professional sport
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: No More on March 17, 2015, 12:15:37 PM
Newman should've gave it away last year and wouldn't be in this position. His body is not up to it anymore it's the harsh reality

mate honestly STFU

but its true Newman is done as an AFL player.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 17, 2015, 12:31:45 PM
Newman should've gave it away last year and wouldn't be in this position. His body is not up to it anymore it's the harsh reality

mate honestly STFU

but its true Newman is done as an AFL player.

I agree, I don't However agree that this heart condition is a result of him Continuing on as suggested by Phil.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: WA Tiger on March 17, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
Unfortunately this will also be the end for Foley I think. :-\
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 17, 2015, 01:34:22 PM
Newman should've gave it away last year and wouldn't be in this position. His body is not up to it anymore it's the harsh reality

mate honestly STFU
He will be 33 in May. Should've given it away as he's not good enough anymore. I do wish him well though footy is a professional sport
Dr Phil.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: one-eyed on March 17, 2015, 01:42:53 PM
Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one

Callum Twomey 
afl.com.au
March 17, 2015 10:00 AM



CHRIS Newman is in doubt for Richmond's round one clash with Carlton after suffering an abnormal heart rhythm at training.

The club revealed on Tuesday that the veteran defender had experienced "some discomfort" at training recently, which saw him have tests that confirmed a cardiac arrhythmia.

The 32-year-old has met with a specialist, and will have a procedure to correct the issue.

"Chris has seen a cardiologist specialising in this area, and he has confirmed that the diagnosis is a relatively benign one," the club's football manager, Dan Richardson, said on the Richmond website.

"However, the decision has been made to rectify the situation with a procedure to eliminate the trigger of the abnormal cardiac rhythm."

It is a frustrating interruption for the Tigers and Newman, who heads into his 15th AFL season with 251 games to his name. The club hopes the concern will not keep their former captain out for too long in the home and away season.
 
"The procedure is relatively straightforward and has been done successfully in many high level athletes, including AFL footballers," Richardson said.

"We are expecting that Chris will be off training for a couple of weeks, and then should be able to resume full training, and play soon after."

- See more at: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-17/heart-blip-for-newman#sthash.IeAtN1so.dpuf
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on March 17, 2015, 02:46:36 PM
Unfortunately this will also be the end for Foley I think. :-\

Gutted.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 17, 2015, 03:07:36 PM
Unfortunately this will also be the end for Foley I think. :-\

Gutted.
Does Foley have a heart murmur too, or does he feel Chris's pain like an identical twin does?
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on March 17, 2015, 03:21:04 PM
Despite his selfish and misguided decision to play on for the last couple of seasons, fingers crossed it's nothing too serious.

Onya Chris
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: wayne on March 17, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
Hope it's nothing serious, but he should have been in doubt for round 1 anyway due to his form going backwards.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: froars on March 17, 2015, 04:24:14 PM
Unfortunately this will also be the end for Foley I think. :-\

Gutted.
:rollin
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Tigeritis™ฉฎ on March 17, 2015, 04:25:25 PM
Old Captain has a broken heart....

.....Richmond will do that to ya! 



Get well soon Chris all the best.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: bojangles17 on March 17, 2015, 05:36:57 PM
my dog has a heart murmur, you can learn to live with it
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on March 17, 2015, 06:09:17 PM
my dog has a heart murmur, you can learn to live with it

I'd like to know the dogs views on the matter.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Willy on March 17, 2015, 06:31:31 PM
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Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 17, 2015, 06:46:04 PM
Even if Foley and Newman don't play another game, at least we got our list profile right.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 17, 2015, 07:42:03 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Penelope on March 17, 2015, 07:45:11 PM
good to hear because he hasn't been able to play for a few years now.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 17, 2015, 07:47:12 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.

Will it help Foley get back and play?
I hear the two are linked
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 17, 2015, 07:53:15 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.
Serious question Doc

Is there a chance the procedure wont be successful, that is it wont correct the irregular heartbeat/rhythm?

My late Mum had a irregular heart beat thingee and the procedure they did, didn't work and because of her age they wouldn't do it again
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: bojangles17 on March 17, 2015, 08:02:59 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.
Oh ok , that's what I was thinking it could be if it wasn't a murmur  :lol
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 17, 2015, 08:24:47 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.

Will it help Foley get back and play?
I hear the two are linked
:lol
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on March 17, 2015, 08:29:36 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.
Serious question Doc

Is there a chance the procedure wont be successful, that is it wont correct the irregular heartbeat/rhythm?


i say YES ::::
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: dwaino on March 17, 2015, 09:15:53 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.

Nothing really to do with this quote but how good is modern science. My old man had a quadruple bypass in January. He is 60 and is already back working full time (and he's a painter), doing the necessary physiotherapy and reckons he hasn't felt as good for 15 years.

So I have no doubt Chris will be fixed up just fine. I just really hope he misses round 1, maybe 2, and someone puts in a stellar performance  ;D
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 17, 2015, 10:16:34 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.
Serious question Doc

Is there a chance the procedure wont be successful, that is it wont correct the irregular heartbeat/rhythm?

My late Mum had a irregular heart beat thingee and the procedure they did, didn't work and because of her age they wouldn't do it again
There is always a chance the procedure won't work.  However, in young people the problem is usually a different one to older people and far more likely to be successful. He has a simple accessory pathway that needs ablating most likely.  Your late mothers irregular heartbeat was different. She almost certainly had atrial fibrillation I would think. That is much harder to fix and fixing is often unsuccessful especially in the elderly, those with dilated atria and those whose irregular heartbeat is almost permanent. Does that help?
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 17, 2015, 10:27:59 PM
Hey Doc, what about Foley? I read the 2 are linked, is Foley still stuffed!
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 17, 2015, 10:33:48 PM
Doc, what's going on with Morris's hair?
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on March 17, 2015, 10:56:05 PM
Doc, what's going on with Morris's hair?

It's not a Haircut!!!!

He has a supra frontal follicle cardia. He will have a cranium study and ablation of the folilicle pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the damaged arm.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.

Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: 🏅Dooks on March 17, 2015, 11:09:35 PM
Has this been peer reviewed? 
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 17, 2015, 11:19:59 PM
Hey Doc, what about Foley? I read the 2 are linked, is Foley still stuffed!
Foley is not stuffed.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 17, 2015, 11:31:48 PM
Doc, what's going on with Morris's hair?

Why pick on Morris? How about Martin? How about Batchelor?
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: (•))(ฉ™ on March 18, 2015, 02:16:00 AM
Hey Doc, what about Foley? I read the 2 are linked, is Foley still stuffed!
Foley is not stuffed.

Post results please.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 18, 2015, 06:20:46 AM
Doc, what's going on with Morris's hair?

Why pick on Morris? How about Martin? How about Batchelor?

What about the mushrooms growing under Dimmas hood??
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 18, 2015, 06:52:48 AM
There is always a chance the procedure won't work.  However, in young people the problem is usually a different one to older people and far more likely to be successful. He has a simple accessory pathway that needs ablating most likely.  Your late mothers irregular heartbeat was different. She almost certainly had atrial fibrillation I would think. That is much harder to fix and fixing is often unsuccessful especially in the elderly, those with dilated atria and those whose irregular heartbeat is almost permanent. Does that help?

Yes that makes perfect sense because what you describe is what she had

Thanks
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Rodgerramjet on March 18, 2015, 04:11:57 PM
good to hear because he hasn't been able to play for a few years now.


 :clapping :clapping :clapping nicely said, not sure i completely agree with the assertion but nevertheless the timing was impeccable.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Rodgerramjet on March 18, 2015, 04:18:21 PM
Doc, what's going on with Morris's hair?

I would suggest that is a mental health issue, not a physical one. :lol
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Rodgerramjet on March 18, 2015, 04:23:19 PM
Doc, what's going on with Morris's hair?

It's not a Haircut!!!!



No, your right it's not a hair cut, its a catastrophe.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Owl on March 18, 2015, 04:28:44 PM
Doc, what's going on with Morris's hair?

It's not a Haircut!!!!

He has a supra frontal follicle cardia.


They will replace the missing part in the follow up operation
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Diocletian on March 18, 2015, 05:11:18 PM
Doc, what's going on with Morris's hair?

It's not a Haircut!!!!

He has a supra frontal follicle cardia.


They will replace the missing part in the follow up operation

Let's hope a large Red Indian doesn't smother him to death with a pillow in the meantime.
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Yeahright on March 18, 2015, 06:56:02 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.

Whats the difference between a murmer and abnormal rythem?
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 18, 2015, 07:27:16 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.

Whats the difference between a murmer and abnormal rythem?
A murmur is an abnormal heart sound you hear with a stethoscope.  It usually signifies a valve problem in the heart - either a valve isn't opening up well enough to let blood through easily or it isn't closing well enough leading to blood going backwards when it shouldn't. It can also be a "flow murmur" which is innocent and is due to higher flow than normal.
An abnormal rhythm is the a change in the normal way a heart contracts due to abnormal spread of the electrical signal that helps co-ordinate the heart. Often it can make the heart beat extremely quickly and thus inefficiently. Some of these abnormal electrical pathways can be "burnt" or ablated forcing the electrical activity to go down the normal paths again.

Ok?
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: lamington on March 18, 2015, 07:50:37 PM
It's not a Heart murmur!!!!

He has a supra ventricular tachycardia. He will have a electrophysiological study and ablation of the aberrant pathway. This will be done percutaneously through the groin.
He will be able to play in a few weeks.

Whats the difference between a murmer and abnormal rythem?

A murmur is an abnormal heart sound you hear with a stethoscope.  It usually signifies a valve problem in the heart - either a valve isn't opening up well enough to let blood through easily or it isn't closing well enough leading to blood going backwards when it shouldn't. It can also be a "flow murmur" which is innocent and is due to higher flow than normal.
An abnormal rhythm is the a change in the normal way a heart contracts due to abnormal spread of the electrical signal that helps co-ordinate the heart. Often it can make the heart beat extremely quickly and thus inefficiently. Some of these abnormal electrical pathways can be "burnt" or ablated forcing the electrical activity to go down the normal paths again.

Ok?

I feel all oneeyed-richmond forum users are blessed to have the knowledge of Doc YandBB on board  :thumbsup


Edited to correct quote
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: JP Tiger on March 18, 2015, 08:09:04 PM
Or to put another way - his V8 engine has a shonky HT lead causing sporadic mis-fires, lumpy idling, engine imbalance, poor fuel economy & loss of power.  Does that help?    ;D
See your local friendly mechanic ... or the bloke at Autobarn ...   :thumbsup
Title: Tiger shows heart: surgery success for Newman (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on March 19, 2015, 11:49:00 AM
Tiger shows heart: surgery success for Newman

Nathan Schmook 
afl.com.au
March 19, 2015 9:42 AM



RICHMOND defender Chris Newman will be back in training in the coming weeks, but is unlikely to play in round one after a successful heart operation on Wednesday.

The Tigers revealed on Tuesday that the veteran defender had experienced "some discomfort" at training, which saw him have tests that confirmed a cardiac arrhythmia.

The 32-year-old subsequently met with a specialist before undergoing a procedure to correct the issue.

He was expected to miss the final two weeks of pre-season training and coach Damien Hardwick said he was unlikely to be available for the Tigers' season opener against Carlton on April 2.

"We'll take that off the table at this stage and make sure we get him right and available for round two," Hardwick said on Thursday morning.

"It was a successful operation, so it's not a major concern for us.

"It's no so much the operation, it's the healing process of the wound that's the concern."

Earlier this week, football manager Dan Richardson said the operation was "relatively straightforward and has been done successfully in many high-level athletes, including AFL footballers".

Newman, who has played 251 games, is heading into his 15th AFL season.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-19/tiger-shows-heart
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: Yeahright on March 20, 2015, 12:22:19 AM
Feel for him but surely he's gotta be thinking of calling it quits.

On another note. No pre season games and missing a chunk of training coming up to the start of the season, what's the bet he waltzes straight into the team when his ready ::) 
Title: Re: Heart murmur puts Newman in doubt for round one
Post by: one-eyed on March 20, 2015, 02:51:21 AM
Dimma's new nickname for Newy is the 'Tin man"  ;D.