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Title: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 20, 2015, 03:40:57 PM
Event: AFL Round 4
Teams: Richmond v Melbourne
Date: Friday April 24, 2015
Start time: 7.50pm


Gate opening:
Public/AFL members: 5.30pm
MCC members: 5.30pm

General admission areas

Great Southern Stand
M1-M4
Q1-Q12

Ponsford Stand
M29-M35
Q29-Q36

Olympic Stand
Q49-Q57

Car park opening:
Gate 3: 1.30pm
Gate 5: 3.00pm
Gate 6: 4.00pm
Gate 7: 7.00am (pass holders only)

Cheersquad allocation:
Richmond - Bay M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
Melbourne - Bay M33 (Rows A-S)

http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=b44a136f-f509-4309-a3d6-fe3ea90da9ce
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 20, 2015, 04:33:56 PM
Must win game! ;D
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: julzqld on April 20, 2015, 05:43:01 PM
I hear it will be cold - am coming to the game, dragging my sister with me
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 20, 2015, 06:15:49 PM
I fear a repeat of the Tom Hafey tribute game is on the cards  :shh what do you think Bo ?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 20, 2015, 09:47:03 PM
Match preview: Tigers v Demons

Nathan Schmook 
afl.com.au
April 20, 2015



SUMMARY

Thanks to a healthy percentage boost from their 79-point win against the Brisbane Lions, the Tigers find themselves in fifth place and with an opportunity to start building momentum. With seven multiple goalkickers against the Lions, they've addressed a shortcoming from round two, but Melbourne will likely prove a more competitive opponent than the Lions on Friday night. The 12th-placed Demons (1-2) fell 25 points short of Adelaide in round three, but have shown significant improvement in the first three rounds. They have been much more competitive in the contest but will need to clean up their ball use to win on Friday night.

WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Friday, April 24, 7.50pm AEST

THE SIX POINTS


1. When these sides last met, the Demons won the disposals, marks and hit-outs while the Tigers laid more tackles, took the ball inside 50 more and had eight more scoring shots.

2. The Tigers are the third ranked offensive team in 2015, kicking an average score of 102.6 points per game and kicking more than 100 points in two of their first three games.

3. Despite having played only three games, Demon Jesse Hogan is the number one contested marking player in 2015 with 10. His team has also been impressive with 12.7 per game.

4. These teams last played on a Friday night at the MCG in round 12, 2007. They have met 130 times at the ground, with Richmond holding the advantage 69-60 with one draw.

5. Melbourne has improved its scoring this season, lifting its average score to 75 points a game compared to 60 a game in 2014.

6. Tiger Shane Edwards moved into the top 50 of the Official AFL Player Ratings in round three. He is the Tigers' highest ranked player and No.49 in the AFL.   

IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR …


Jack Watts. The Melbourne forward dropped two uncontested marks against the Crows in round three that cost his team dearly. With the Demons having kicked three goals to one in the first quarter, Watts fumbled a mark and Adelaide scored a goal as a direct result of the error. They scored another out of the resulting centre clearance, turning the game in their favour. Watts made a bright start to the season and will be looking to get back on track.

PREDICTION: Richmond by 21 points

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-20/match-preview-tigers-v-demons
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Loui Tufga on April 20, 2015, 10:53:34 PM
Weather is going to be poo house!
Pray the front comes late because the low that is forming is packing Rain, hail and 100kph winds. It's currently due to gif late Friday into Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 22, 2015, 03:47:44 AM
MCG website saying they're expecing a crowd of 52,000 on Friday night.


http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=b44a136f-f509-4309-a3d6-fe3ea90da9ce
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 22, 2015, 12:31:40 PM
MCG website saying they're expecing a crowd of 52,000 on Friday night.


http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=b44a136f-f509-4309-a3d6-fe3ea90da9ce
Under 60 would be a fail
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 1965 on April 22, 2015, 12:50:35 PM
MCG website saying they're expecing a crowd of 52,000 on Friday night.


http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=b44a136f-f509-4309-a3d6-fe3ea90da9ce
Under 60 would be a fail

Depends how wet it is on Friday.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 22, 2015, 01:28:04 PM
MCG website saying they're expecing a crowd of 52,000 on Friday night.


http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=b44a136f-f509-4309-a3d6-fe3ea90da9ce
Under 60 would be a fail

Depends how wet it is on Friday.
Won't rain at all
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 22, 2015, 03:10:54 PM
Will be great listening to all the dud worshippers after Melbourne beats us.

 :shh :shh :shh
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: mightytiges on April 22, 2015, 03:17:15 PM
MCG website saying they're expecing a crowd of 52,000 on Friday night.


http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=b44a136f-f509-4309-a3d6-fe3ea90da9ce
Under 60 would be a fail
::)

There's been only 3 times that Richmond vs Melbourne has got a crowd of 60k+.

* 76k turned up to Round 22 shocker in 1998  :P  :scream.

* Round 15 loss in 2006 when Melbourne were 4th (the last time they were in the finals) and we were 8th and fighting to stay in the finals race which ultimately failed.

* Round 14 loss in 2011 when it was built up by Garry Lyon as the battle of the two "up and coming" sides. 5 weeks later Melbourne lost to Geelong by 186 pts, Bailey was sacked and they imploded as a club.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: mightytiges on April 22, 2015, 03:22:43 PM
Will be great listening to all the dud worshippers after Melbourne beats us.

 :shh :shh :shh
And if we win, it will only be because Melbourne is a dud side. That's how it works  ;).
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 22, 2015, 03:35:26 PM
It's not our fault that every shot team in the comp thinks they're a chance to beat us.
All they need do is apply pressure to our little pansy list
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: mightytiges on April 22, 2015, 05:09:01 PM
It's not our fault that every shot team in the comp thinks they're a chance to beat us.
All they need do is apply pressure to our little pansy list
No doubt we are yet to lose the "egg" tag and Friday night is a test of that given what happened last year against Melbourne  :P. However, let's wait until the result of the game before we start chiseling our tombstone  ;D  ;). A win, no matter how, is all that matters.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: cub on April 22, 2015, 05:15:42 PM
Melbourne are far from crap, not switched on we will lose!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Smokey on April 22, 2015, 05:16:16 PM
MCG website saying they're expecing a crowd of 52,000 on Friday night.


http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=b44a136f-f509-4309-a3d6-fe3ea90da9ce

A question re: attending this match.  Do I need to book tickets or will my membership allow me entry but restrict me to where I can sit?  I'm looking at sitting somewhere near the Tiger Army in M3 but not sure if I need to book for that area?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 22, 2015, 05:26:38 PM
It's not our fault that every shot team in the comp thinks they're a chance to beat us.
All they need do is apply pressure to our little pansy list
No doubt we are yet to lose the "egg" tag and Friday night is a test of that given what happened last year against Melbourne  :P. However, let's wait until the result of the game before we start chiseling our tombstone  ;D  ;). A win, no matter how, is all that matters.

U can't say that about MELBOURNE.
These sides we should annihilate.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 22, 2015, 05:29:33 PM
Cos " we're a better team this year" ;D
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 22, 2015, 05:33:28 PM
MCG website saying they're expecing a crowd of 52,000 on Friday night.


http://www.mcg.org.au/Events/Upcoming%20Events/Event%20Details.aspx?eid=b44a136f-f509-4309-a3d6-fe3ea90da9ce
Under 60 would be a fail
::)

There's been only 3 times that Richmond vs Melbourne has got a crowd of 60k+.

* 76k turned up to Round 22 shocker in 1998  :P  :scream.

* Round 15 loss in 2006 when Melbourne were 4th (the last time they were in the finals) and we were 8th and fighting to stay in the finals race which ultimately failed.

* Round 14 loss in 2011 when it was built up by Garry Lyon as the battle of the two "up and coming" sides. 5 weeks later Melbourne lost to Geelong by 186 pts, Bailey was sacked and they imploded as a club.
Yeah but it really should get 60k if it's going to be a regualr season blockbuster. If we can get 61k in 2011 we should be able to get more than that on a Friday night and being the first Anzac day eve blockbuster regardless of weather. Melbourne fans will be out in force having their first good start to the season in years.

I'm going to predict 64,000
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: cub on April 22, 2015, 05:37:20 PM
Cold, possible snow in dem dere hills.
Lucky 50
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: cub on April 22, 2015, 05:37:44 PM
Actually go low 40s
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 22, 2015, 06:11:51 PM
A question re: attending this match.  Do I need to book tickets or will my membership allow me entry but restrict me to where I can sit?  I'm looking at sitting somewhere near the Tiger Army in M3 but not sure if I need to book for that area?

Smokey,

Yes your membership will get you in and there will restrictions on where you can sit

However, as per the first post of this thread general admission areas (not reserved seating) are:

Great Southern Stand
M1-M4
Q1-Q12


Ponsford Stand
M29-M35
Q29-Q36

So you should have no problems sitting near the cheersquad & Tiger Army

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 22, 2015, 06:33:48 PM
Actually go low 40s
Reckon the Demons fans will be at the snow?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: yellowandback on April 22, 2015, 07:20:39 PM
It's not our fault that every shot team in the comp thinks they're a chance to beat us.
All they need do is apply pressure to our little pansy list
No doubt we are yet to lose the "egg" tag and Friday night is a test of that given what happened last year against Melbourne  :P. However, let's wait until the result of the game before we start chiseling our tombstone  ;D  ;). A win, no matter how, is all that matters.

U can't say that about MELBOURNE.
These sides we should annihilate.

Melbourne will do what they did last year and flood back inside our f50 when we have the ball.
When they did this to us last year (and the same thing happened against the Bulldogs) we:-

Bombed the ball inside 50
Didn't force enough clearances inside our f50
Allowed them to rebound the ball quickly and easily

Once they get us second guessing how to enter 50 we cross crossed across our half forward stuff before eventually stopping to run.

This year they will add a Brent McCaffer style tag on Cotchin with Bernie Vince and the danger is we don't protect him and the entire midfield goes into their shell

Quite simply, Hardwick needs a plan to stop this happening because it's too predictable.
Melbourne aren't that good but they're good at this type of football and we hate it which is where the coach theoretically influences the outcome.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 22, 2015, 07:41:25 PM
Dimma has no method to beat that style of footy. Has never beaten it
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 22, 2015, 07:46:46 PM
The best way to play floods is to move the ball quickly into the forward zone to prevent large numbers getting back. Our footskills are not good enough to pinpoint targets in congested areas.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Smokey on April 22, 2015, 09:52:45 PM

Smokey,

Yes your membership will get you in and there will restrictions on where you can sit

However, as per the first post of this thread general admission areas (not reserved seating) are:

Great Southern Stand
M1-M4
Q1-Q12


Ponsford Stand
M29-M35
Q29-Q36

So you should have no problems sitting near the cheersquad & Tiger Army

 :thumbsup

Cheers WP!!   :cheers
Title: Demons keen for annual Anzac Day eve match with Richmond (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on April 22, 2015, 10:02:29 PM
Demons keen for annual Anzac Day eve match, says skipper Nathan Jones

Peter Ryan
AAP 
April 22, 2015 3:20 PM



MELBOURNE captain Nathan Jones is keen on making the club's match against Richmond on the eve of Anzac Day a permanent fixture.

The Demons will play Richmond on Friday night and Jones says locking down April 24 for the clash in future years would be a "great spectacle”.

Melbourne's best and fairest award, the 'Bluey' Truscott Medal, is named after a former Demon player and fighter pilot who was killed in 1943 during World War II.

The club's greatest player, Ron Barassi, also lost his father during World War II and Jones says Melbourne and Richmond have more former players who died at war than any other club.

"If we can respectively commemorate the memory of the Anzacs … [and] we're able to reflect positively on the efforts of those people and what they did for our country that is something that we would love to be a part of and hopefully make permanent for the future," Jones said.

Melbourne players are aware of the club's history and will head to the Shrine of Remembrance on Thursday morning. Several players have also shared stories of family members who were involved in war.

Jones emphasised the fact he did not want any comparisons between football and war made, but he was keen to use the opportunity for the club to pay respect to those who have served their country.

Friday night's duel with the Tigers is Melbourne's first game under Friday night lights since 2012.

The Demons have not won a Friday night game at the MCG since round seven, 2011 when they beat Essendon.

See more at: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-22/demons-keen-for-annual-anzac-day-eve-match-says-skipper-nathan-jones#sthash.bmNUexzS.dpuf
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 22, 2015, 10:04:11 PM
AGL to help Richmond light up the ‘G on Anzac Eve

richmondfc.com.au 
April 22, 2015 4:02 PM



Richmond and Melbourne fans can play their part in setting the atmosphere before this Friday night’s Anzac day eve match at the MCG.

Fans will be provided with individual miniature lights which they can use to ‘light up the ‘G’ during the pre-match ceremony.

The stadium lights will be turned down in the moments before the teams run out to play, as part of an official Anzac ceremony.

Other elements of the pre-match ceremony include a performance by The Rising Suns, the Australian Army Band Melbourne.

There will also be the delivery of a flame from the Shrine of Remembrance by the Creswick Light Horse Troop, which will be lit on the MCG stage by AFL legend Ron Barassi.

And fans will witness the observance of the Last Post, and the Australian National Anthem.

This Friday, Richmond and Melbourne will stage the first Anzac Eve match, where they will pay tribute to their shared wartime history.

Richmond would like to make special mention of Round 4 match-day presenting partner, AGL, and thank them for supporting the Club’s initiative.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-22/agl-to-help-richmond-light-up-the-g-on-anzac-eve
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: wayne on April 23, 2015, 10:01:07 AM
Jeepers Melbourne at $3.50 is juicy, especially with their record against us...  :help
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 23, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
If we don't lift, I reckon we'll lose. As has already been mentioned, dees play a style of footy we hate and struggle against. They pushed Adelaide last week to the limit physically, I have grave reservations we can cop that type of physicality unfortunately.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: eliminator on April 23, 2015, 04:13:08 PM
Agree. In addition Roos as a coach has a good record against us. Hardwick needs to tactically outwit Roos. Hardwick needs to be able to show that he has the ability to match it with tacticians.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: potsclub on April 23, 2015, 04:56:05 PM
Agree. In addition Roos as a coach has a good record against us. Hardwick needs to tactically outwit Roos. Hardwick needs to be able to show that he has the ability to match it with tacticians.
Are you saying that Roos know's what Hardwick can do? and that if we want to win Hardwick needs to throw a spanner in the works and try something different?
Well I hope I see that at the G tomorrow, but I can not see this happening and when we get shut down I think Hardwick isn't going to have a plan B.

Hope he proves me wrong.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 23, 2015, 09:44:05 PM
Dimma on the game:

“We know it’s going to be a high tackle, high stoppage, high contested game . . . Paul Roos sides, that’s how they play, and we’re looking forward to that challenge.  We’ve set our players for it.

“It’s going to be an arm wrestle . . . 12 goals to 10, it’s probably going to be that sort of game.

“So we’ll set our players with that steely resolve.  They know they’ve got to come to play.

“We’ve got a really good opposition that is coming forward in leaps and bounds.  The quality of talent they’ve added over the course of the summer was evident for their supporters to see . . .

“We’re just looking forward to making sure we match their intensity early, because they do start well, and then get the game on our terms after that.”

Read more: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2015-04-23/tigers-ready-to-defy-demons
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 23, 2015, 09:51:35 PM
More here:

Hardwick said it was crucial that his players lived up, from an effort perspective, to the hype surrounding the match that has increased throughout the week,  with both clubs keen to prove the contest should become an annual fixture.

Specifically, that means stopping Paul Roos' Demons from building momentum out of the first quarter, which they have done in all three games, albeit they have been overrun in the last two.

Melbourne are the only team other than Essendon to have won all three first terms this season, and have also lost only one second quarter.

They are particularly strong around the contest, too, with Champion Data figures ranking the Demons No.1 in the league for contested ball in first quarters, compared to the Tigers at 14th.

The Demons are also well up on execution, ranking No.3 for scores per inside 50 percentage in first quarters against Gold Coast, GWS and Adelaide, while the Tigers have been comparatively sluggish, ranking 17th, and getting jumped by Carlton in the season-opener and the Western Bulldogs in round two before leading Brisbane at quarter-time. 

On the flipside, Melbourne have won only one quarter after half-time, while Richmond are five out of six for wins in after-half-time quarters.

 "We're just looking forward to making sure we match their intensity early, because they do start well, and then get the game on our terms after that," Hardwick said.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/brett-deledio-to-miss-clash-with-melbourne-and-doubtful-for-cats-encounter-20150423-1mrh3a.html
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: mightytiges on April 23, 2015, 10:42:02 PM
As Tucky would attest, Garry Lyon normally tries to pump us up and tips us whenever we are playing his old side Melbourne, almost as a jinx. Tonight though, he emphatically said "Melbourne will win". So hopefully it's a reverse jinx this time around and we do a job on the Dees  :pray.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Andyy on April 23, 2015, 11:38:24 PM
Cotchin will be bear-hugged to death.

Our forward line will be effing flooded.

Loose melbourne players everywhere not being manned up, uncontested marks all night.

Not many goals scored.

Melbourne will want it more.


Can see it going this way...
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 24, 2015, 12:31:11 AM
Media doesn't rate us one bit. Just the way we should like it  :shh But then I looked at our outs and other injuries :thumbsdown
Title: Demons set Jack Riewoldt trap (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 24, 2015, 03:31:22 AM
Tom McDonald will have his hands full trying to contain Jack Riewoldt on Friday night

Sam Landsberger
Herald-Sun
April 23, 2015 9:15PM



SIZE will matter when Melbourne tries to disarm Richmond star Jack Riewoldt at the MCG tonight, according to awaiting defender Tom McDonald.

Riewoldt kicked 1.3 from nine disposals and was beaten by McDonald last year – along with his Tigers.

Both players enter in hot form with Riewoldt jagging 10.4 and McDonald losing just a single one-on-one contest after games against Taylor Walker, Jeremy Cameron and Dan Gorringe.

“Jack’s a very crafty player, always moving side-to-side or trying to get behind you,” McDonald, 22, said.

“He’s so opportunistic he might have nine disposals but kick six goals. I’ve got a size advantage on him in terms of height and arm length, so if I can make it messy and not let him get a jump at it (it’ll help), but it’s a big challenge.”

McDonald (194cm) is listed at 1cm shorter than Riewoldt but 1kg heavier and he has upped his rebound game this season, averaging an extra 3.2 intercept marks and 131 metres gained.

Melbourne backline coach Rawlings knows Riewoldt from time spent at the Tigers and says: “(McDonald) needs to concentrate for four quarters because Jack’s a very smart forward with a lot of tricks and asks a lot of you”.

McDonald said two of the Dees’ focuses were backline ground balls to limit opposition crumbers and powerful spoils to alleviate danger.

The stuff also said they looked at intercept marks and third-man involvements as part of coach Paul Roos’ team philosophy, while he was trying to convert more spoils into grabs.

“We just seem to stuff up easy opportunities, miss easy goals,” McDonald said on some of the frustration.

“We don’t want to allow easy goals by leaving a defender one-on-one in the square, we want to get back and help,” McDonald said.

“And we know we need to score more to win,” McDonald said.

“Not everyone’s going to get the ball every time but it might be your turn to run and spread out wide, just to allow space.”

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/tom-mcdonald-will-have-his-hands-stuff-riewoldt-on-friday-night/story-fndv8pdq-1227317791388
Title: Tigers teamwork to protect Cotchin (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 24, 2015, 03:33:51 AM
Cotchin will be bear-hugged to death.

Tigers teamwork to protect Cotchin
Herald-Sun
April 24, 2015


RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick is confident captain Trent Cotchin will have the midfield protection he needs should he face a tight-tagging Bernie Vince at the MCG tonight.

As the Tigers face the prospect of another two weeks without Brett Deledio, Hardwick backed Cotchin’s midfield teammates to give him the help he needs if he receives the same attention as Adelaide star Patrick Dangerfield.

Melbourne’s Vince raised eyebrows with his rough-house tactics on Dangerfield in the Crows’ win over the Demons at Adelaide Oval last round.

Cotchin is coming off a brilliant 37-possession performance in the Tigers’ win over the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba last week.

Asked if he had spoken to his midfield about needing to help Cotchin if Vince went to him in a similar role, Hardwick had no concerns.

“I think the pleasing thing for us is that our guys will naturally do that anyway,’’ Hardwick said.

“The great thing now is with our midfield depth, we can just basically roll through that and take it as it comes.

“There is three custodians of the game that are generally there to look after that, I don’t really have to worry about it.”

For his part, Hardwick said he no issue with Vince’s treatment of Dangerfield.
Brett Deledio will miss another game. Picture: Michael Klein

Brett Deledio will miss another game. Picture: Michael Klein Source: News Corp Australia

“I actually enjoyed it, I enjoy that aspect of the game,’’ Hardwick said.

“Bernie is a hard, tough player and he plays his footy the way that I like it to be played.’’

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/brett-deledio-unlikely-to-return-until-round-6-as-he-struggles-to-overcome-persistent-calf-injury/story-fndv8t7m-1227316759133
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Andyy on April 24, 2015, 06:14:32 AM
Heard it before. Waiting to see it!

Hopefully some physicality with Arnot ad Drummond being 180/86 and 182/86 respectively.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Chuck17 on April 24, 2015, 06:26:49 AM
Get ready for a Roos special of ugly football at its finest
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 24, 2015, 10:26:51 AM
I've got 1 question for Richmond.
(http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2011/10/images/640_egg.jpg)
WHATS INSIDE?
Title: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2015, 11:17:53 AM
Just thought I'd start one up early ;D
Title: Re: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: georgies31 on April 24, 2015, 11:42:03 AM
I'm worried Roos will out coach Dimma seems a common trend.
Title: Re: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 24, 2015, 11:46:08 AM
This out coaching stuff is rubbish.

If the players have a greater work rate than their counterparts,  we will win. It's as simple as that. Run hard both ways, tackle hard and pressure your opposition and play direct football.

FFS stop making the game out to be a scientific experiment!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: georgies31 on April 24, 2015, 11:48:50 AM
If we don't lift, I reckon we'll lose. As has already been mentioned, dees play a style of footy we hate and struggle against. They pushed Adelaide last week to the limit physically, I have grave reservations we can cop that type of physicality unfortunately.



Spot on and Dimma needs to coach well to.
Title: Re: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: mat073 on April 24, 2015, 11:53:59 AM
If Melbourne win - we are crap - give me Hardwicks head on a stick

If Richmond win - Melbourne are crap .....but we are still pure excrement .

If Melbourne get within 5 goals - panic stations

If Richmond win by over 10 goals - just flat track bullies.

Think that covers all scenarios ;)
Title: Re: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: cub on April 24, 2015, 11:56:32 AM
Yep another no win situation, may as well stay home? Not!
Title: Re: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 24, 2015, 12:20:49 PM
Drawn Game ?
They are both garbage then lol
Title: Re: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 24, 2015, 01:18:08 PM
Last years loss was unacceptable there is no sugar coating it.

This game should be a redux of what should've been.

Let's get fairdinkum here. A minimum 10 goal smashing is all that should be expected against a mob that's atleast 3 years behind us in development.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 24, 2015, 01:28:06 PM
As Tucky would attest, Garry Lyon normally tries to pump us up and tips us whenever we are playing his old side Melbourne, almost as a jinx. Tonight though, he emphatically said "Melbourne will win". So hopefully it's a reverse jinx this time around and we do a job on the Dees  :pray.

Garry tipped the Dees last night yet has tipped us in The Age  :wallywink

The 'expert' tipsters in the media have overwhelming picked Richmond tonight.

Herald-Sun    27 - 2
The Age        21 - 3 ....... Does Pendlebury hate Richmond? He's has tipped against us again.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/expert-tipsters
http://www.news.com.au/national/expert-tips-herald-sun-afl-experts-pick-their-winners-for-every-round-of-the-2015-season/story-e6frfkp9-1227289663678?sv=7e0cbb2caf649e7124c41bbc385a50a0 
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 24, 2015, 01:30:08 PM
Player ratings, round four: The Hot and the Not

Ben Guthrie 
afl.com.au
April 24, 2015



RICHMOND v MELBOURNE

(http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Rd3.jpg)

Hot: Bachar Houli was Richmond's top-scoring player last week with 24.3 points from 32 disposals, including 14 contested possessions, and 651m gained. Tom McDonald is the top-scoring key defender this season. The Demons backman has moved up 30 places in the overall standings to 139th since the start of the year.

Not: Jack Riewoldt has averaged 1.6 goals per game against the Demons since 2010. He averages 3 per game against all other opponents. Melbourne speedster Jeff Garlett has kicked at an accuracy of just 29 per cent this season, including zero goals from five set shots.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-24/player-ratings-round-four-the-hot-and-the-not
Title: Re: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: mightytiges on April 24, 2015, 02:05:13 PM
If Melbourne win - we are crap - give me Hardwicks head on a stick

If Richmond win - Melbourne are crap .....but we are still pure excrement .

If Melbourne get within 5 goals - panic stations

If Richmond win by over 10 goals - just flat track bullies.

Think that covers all scenarios ;)
:clapping :snidegrin
Title: Re: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 02:18:27 PM
If Melbourne win - we are crap - give me Hardwicks head on a stick

If Richmond win - Melbourne are crap .....but we are still pure excrement .

If Melbourne get within 5 goals - panic stations

If Richmond win by over 10 goals - just flat track bullies.

Think that covers all scenarios ;)

You forgot the main scenario relevant to this site - if Richmond lose all the posters who criticise others for being too negative or Debbie Downers will go to ground, with one eye on reporting posts that they can't handle reading under the guise of baiting or trolling.

Circa post-Bulldogs loss. (http://airgun-hunting.pl/images/smilies/hunter-sniper.gif)

Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 02:43:19 PM
I hope MELBOURNE flogs us, Hardwick gets the arse and takes 11 players with him when he goes.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: potsclub on April 24, 2015, 02:56:03 PM
I honestly don't know where we stand in this game.
One half of the brain saying we win by 6 or 7 goals.
Other half is saying we lose by 2 or 3.

I know it's a big difference, but I think the brain is saying Melbourne and the heart is saying Richmond. lol.

Anyway I have a question,
I think it's been about 4 years since I have driven to the G for a game of football.
When leaving the games the car park is chockers, does any one know of any good spots too park at?
As you probably have guessed i'm driving in lol.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 02:56:48 PM
Have u ever seen an easier first four games for any team?
They still lose
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 03:01:47 PM
it doesn't matter if we win or lose. We are still a better team than last year. The club said so and they know best
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 24, 2015, 03:32:16 PM
Need to kill the Dees early and take our chances otherwise they will hang in and take the points.

Memo last years game and when they beat the Essenskata.
Title: Re: versus Melbourne meltdown thread
Post by: Penelope on April 24, 2015, 05:11:04 PM
This out coaching stuff is rubbish.

If the players have a greater work rate than their counterparts,  we will win. It's as simple as that. Run hard both ways, tackle hard and pressure your opposition and play direct football.

FFS stop making the game out to be a scientific experiment!

Yesss  :clapping

We know how they play, they know how we play. No one will conjure up some masterstroke of coaching to win the game.

It comes down to the players
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 07:02:39 PM
Tactics and game style make it easier to apply pressure.

Richmond hate pressure because we are not mentally strong and don't possess the skills to play through the opposition tactics or change up our own game (Dimma)

People may not like the science but it's pretty evident depending on what you watch the game for.

And yes there is such a thing as being out coached


Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2015, 07:07:44 PM
I honestly don't know where we stand in this game.
One half of the brain saying we win by 6 or 7 goals.
Other half is saying we lose by 2 or 3.

I know it's a big difference, but I think the brain is saying Melbourne and the heart is saying Richmond. lol.

Anyway I have a question,
I think it's been about 4 years since I have driven to the G for a game of football.
When leaving the games the car park is chockers, does any one know of any good spots too park at?
As you probably have guessed i'm driving in lol.
Park at Seymour and then catch the train. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Penelope on April 24, 2015, 07:47:16 PM
Tactics and game style make it easier to apply pressure.

Richmond hate pressure because we are not mentally strong and don't possess the skills to play through the opposition tactics or change up our own game (Dimma)

People may not like the science but it's pretty evident depending on what you watch the game for.

And yes there is such a thing as being out coached
yes but in modern footy it mostly happens in the preparation rather than game day. Roos wont do anything unexpected, regardless of where the game is at. The side that wins is generally the one that executes their game plan best
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 07:54:44 PM
Started quick for a change
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 08:06:18 PM
Bloody hell GRIFF
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 08:06:54 PM
stuffn useless idiots :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 08:09:15 PM
This is looking familiar
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 08:09:44 PM
How are we behind? 
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2015, 08:09:48 PM
Oh no, here we go.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 08:11:00 PM
That's the RFC we expect :cheers

Worst team in he comp
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 08:12:16 PM
Getting put played with simple effective football
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 08:13:14 PM
Great goal Arnott  :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 08:15:12 PM
Goal melbourne.   :thumbsdown

Melb 4.2.26
Rich 2.3.15
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2015, 08:15:31 PM
Where are the Chaplin haters now?
Backline getting flogged.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 08:17:05 PM
See that hardwick, u stupid idiot!!
Arnot.

Morris is a shitman
Vlaustin useless
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2015, 08:21:59 PM
We'd be three goals up if Griff were on line.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Lozza on April 24, 2015, 08:24:18 PM
On track for 20 behinds like last year, poor kicking for goal is poor football, could prove costly later
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 08:24:35 PM
How frustrating  :pullhair
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 08:34:53 PM
Gotta play faster, we got these bums covered on the spread
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 08:39:42 PM
No fans lather themselves into hardcore collective umpire booing and cheering than Melbourne fans.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2015, 08:55:02 PM
Drummond, poor bastard.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 08:59:31 PM
Is it his knee???

Man we're pretty crap, first game I've been to this season and our fed movement is deplorable, so many chances to open me up but we just go the boundary

Pathetic
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tdy on April 24, 2015, 09:01:15 PM
Theyllbbring Thomas in won't they if he's fit.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 09:02:30 PM
Jeez we look terrible.

What a poohouse game

Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Simonator on April 24, 2015, 09:02:51 PM
Geeh gotta feel for Drummo. Nearly certainly an ACL, hopefully that inspires some team mates.

Crap footy by both clubs. reckon we will open the game up a bit this next half.. hope so at least. Griff look a bit uninterested after a few bad kicks ?

Will be happy with the 4 points even if we play like poo considering the team we've put up.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2015, 09:03:03 PM
Yes, talking ACL.
Every time we have players written up, they play poo. Read- Alex Rance. Having said that, we are missing Chaplin.
Our kicking on goal is killing us and Jack kicking around corners for goals must stop.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Clean snap if u ask me.
Laterally.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Muscles on April 24, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
Melbourne just wants the ball more than we do.  They're getting more players to each contest. 

Our stupid errors have been costly too.

Dunno what's come over Rance.  Is he missing Chaplin that much?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Simonator on April 24, 2015, 09:05:13 PM
Looks like the rain will hit during half time. Hopefully we can slug it out harder than them.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tdy on April 24, 2015, 09:06:15 PM
The dees are gang tackling very well our setups around packs were awful that quarter. Time n time again getting caught 1 short and the ball going nowhere. Griff's got one out of the ruck and there was no one to handball to. WTF! Its a set play and we have 3 players at the ball?  Are we hoping that maybe Melbournes midfield don't want to get the ball and will all zone out of the pack. Anyway we got done and we will continue unless we win the mid field.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Penelope on April 24, 2015, 09:07:14 PM
once again, how many times do we put ourselves under pressure with a short forward handball when they have time to settle and kick?

this has happened so many times from the first pre season game this goes down to the coaching and it drives me mental
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 09:07:45 PM
Good coaching by Damien again
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 09:09:09 PM
Rance playing like a man somewhat disinterested
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tdy on April 24, 2015, 09:10:52 PM
Is there no one forward of the ball? The TV doesn't show it. But were really failing to kick it quick when we have half a chance.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Muscles on April 24, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
Rance playing like a man somewhat disinterested

Or a man who is big time distracted.  Doing about as well as Travis Cloke did when he put off his contract negotiations,
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2015, 09:19:08 PM
Good coaching by Damien again
Explain
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tdy on April 24, 2015, 09:21:29 PM
Yes, talking ACL.
Every time we have players written up, they play poo. Read- Alex Rance. Having said that, we are missing Chaplin.
Our kicking on goal is killing us and Jack kicking around corners for goals must stop.

Its poor list depth if we're missing someone like Chaplin. Not enough solid experienced talls down back to cover the loss of only one key defender. Where are Astbury, Grimes et all in all this. Claw is right we have list problems.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tdy on April 24, 2015, 09:25:43 PM
Thinking about the great Geelong defense, they had Lonergan almost die and they just slotted another player in. Harley retired and Hunt filled in. And if someone went down Mooney could always go back. But the general depth of that back line was phenomenal. Ours appears thin on the ground.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Just stuff Morris Off!!!!!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 24, 2015, 09:29:54 PM
I've got 1 question for Richmond.
(http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2011/10/images/640_egg.jpg)
WHATS INSIDE?
(http://iiaiblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cracked-brown-egg11.jpg)
ARE WE STARTING TO CRACK?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 09:33:59 PM
Is there no one forward of the ball? The TV doesn't show it. But were really failing to kick it quick when we have half a chance.

Nope, like I said moving fed we are deplorable, really disappointing no balls to take the game on
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: wayne on April 24, 2015, 09:41:38 PM
Game over
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 09:42:17 PM
Game over I reckon just demoralising were missing easy ones they're kicking them out of their orifice

Just stuff Duma off, can't coach
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 09:42:47 PM
Another goal and it's gonna be very tuff in the wet
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on April 24, 2015, 09:43:44 PM
I've got 1 question for Richmond.
(http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2011/10/images/640_egg.jpg)
WHATS INSIDE?
(http://iiaiblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cracked-brown-egg11.jpg)
ARE WE STARTING TO CRACK?
(http://www.dailyperricone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Broken-Egg.jpg)
AND THERE IT IS!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 09:44:33 PM
19 pts in the wet is like being 6 goals down
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Simonator on April 24, 2015, 09:44:38 PM
First 4 round have shown me that we have major issues with our forward 50. Winning Inside 50s. Winning clearances. How can we kick SO many behinds.
Even have the umpires on our side this time. Win draw or lose another pathetic performance, very disappointing.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 09:45:49 PM
Which of u morons thought we'd win???
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 09:46:58 PM
25 pts that's it. Eff en deplorable
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 09:50:29 PM
Morris. Lmao
Ellis lmao
Vlaustin lmao
Cotchin lmao
Maric lmao
Grigg lmao
Etc etc etc
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: No More on April 24, 2015, 09:52:12 PM
You can only  :lol at this rubbish. Hardwick is gone as a coach. This the beginning of the end. Mind you The football department has wrecked him with the recruiting they've done.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tdy on April 24, 2015, 09:53:00 PM
Everyone is standing defensive side of the pack at stages. No on to kick it to.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tdy on April 24, 2015, 09:54:13 PM
Maric has mostly beaten Jamaat that I've seen. But we've lost the packs more often than not
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Lozza on April 24, 2015, 09:55:25 PM
One on one and we simply don't have the skill, strength of mind or sheer determination to fight,  FFS it's an ANZAC game, our guys are just lying in the trenches.  Second to the ball, fumbling,  just terrible to watch. A disgrace again and to think they are repeating last year's horrendous effort it just never ceases to amaze me how poorly we perform when the pressure is on, they should all hang their heads in shame. Hate to be pessimistic but this definitely casts a shadow over Hardwicks future.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 09:56:22 PM
Everyone is standing defensive side of the pack at stages. No on to kick it to.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 09:57:14 PM
We got anyone to stand up and wll us over the line?

Lmao
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 09:58:09 PM
Clearly there are alot of issus. Not that the club will acknowledge that anything is wrong
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 10:02:18 PM
As per usual 5-6 mins of play domination yielding zero goals,

They'll get there chance at the 10-15 minute mark bury it and then crush us
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: No More on April 24, 2015, 10:03:49 PM
people should just do other things rather than let that group of imposters ruin everyones weekend. in the end its just footy, they don't give a stuff about their own performances, why should we?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 10:05:19 PM
Here we go

Told ya
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 10:06:19 PM
As per usual 5-6 mins of play domination yielding zero goals,

They'll get there chance at the 10-15 minute mark bury it and then crush us

And there it is. Lmao pathetic
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 10:08:20 PM
Can somebody please do something to change this club around.

I'm glad MELBOURNE pumped them.

You fukcwits who support the club need to pull ur heads out of your dumb asses.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 10:09:19 PM
I hate what we've become

I just saw Ellis get the ball clear at HD and he looked backwards first

This is just disgraceful

How much longer must we put up with this clown coach?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: No More on April 24, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
Can somebody please do something to change this club around.

I'm glad MELBOURNE pumped them.

You stuffwits who support the club need to pull ur heads out of your dumb asses.

There is a lot of truth in that. Im well beyond much caring about them, I actually find it funny that 70,000 pay membership fees to this organization and all we get is this crap. They are a bunch of overpaid hacks both on the field and off it.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 10:12:33 PM
Another big loss to STUFFING melbourne.

32 pts now just stuffing pathetic
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Chuck17 on April 24, 2015, 10:15:17 PM
We need Coach the leader of men back
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 24, 2015, 10:20:23 PM
Left at half time which was probably a good thing

Nothing they can say tonight or for the next week for that matter can justify or explains tonight's "effort" which was nothing short of pathetic
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: dwaino on April 24, 2015, 10:21:18 PM
That might be the last straw for me. I can't afford to keep throwing hats/beanies in the bin on the way out.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 10:24:10 PM
Don't delete my poo willy

Not stuffen tonight.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Swooper on April 24, 2015, 10:25:37 PM
What a pack of losers we Richmond supporters are. 35 years of cr@ and we still watch and join and go mad. Sack about 10 I reckon. Jackson must be the biggest w.......  We all know Hardwick can't coach. 790 inside 50s to 3 and we would still lose. Etc etc
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 10:26:40 PM
Line in the sand boys?

stuffwits
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 24, 2015, 10:26:59 PM
Don't delete my poo willy

Not stuffen tonight.

Post within in the rules and no need to delete anything

Simple really q
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Lozza on April 24, 2015, 10:28:52 PM
Has to be one of the all time poorest wet weather performances I have ever witnessed,  just run out of adjectives to describe it.  No coming back from this one Tigers,  mentally that loss will take us back 5 years.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 10:29:35 PM
Half our fans will be clapping them off tonight.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tony_montana on April 24, 2015, 10:30:26 PM
That's it for me, won't be attending another game while this stuffwit remains coach
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 24, 2015, 10:30:45 PM
Have said it many times but yet again the lack of leadership shone like a beacon.

Until we get that right then these type of losses will just keep on keeping on
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: (•))(©™ on April 24, 2015, 10:34:13 PM
MELBOURNE under Roos has already surpassed them.

Get a grip u idiots.

Close the poohole down and reopen when it's operational.

Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 24, 2015, 10:36:54 PM
Players have no respect for Hardwick, rievoldt should sling his hook, titch was magnificent, morris was awkward, agree no leadership, cotchin tried his guts out, probably vicks will be back in next week, francis jackson you loser, this is your legacy
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: 🏅Dooks on April 24, 2015, 10:38:35 PM
I am so sick of this.

It's the same thing over and over again. And again and again and again.


Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: MintOnLamb on April 24, 2015, 10:39:07 PM
I am so sick of this.

It's the same thing over and over again. And again and again and again.
GROUNDHOG DAY
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: No More on April 24, 2015, 10:39:43 PM
the recruiters have sold everyone up the river. they have recruited crap for years and pulled the wool over everyones eyes.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Phil Mrakov on April 24, 2015, 10:41:41 PM
Have said it many times but yet again the lack of leadership shone like a beacon.

Until we get that right then these type of losses will just keep on keeping on
Should we give Hardwick an extension?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: No More on April 24, 2015, 10:42:56 PM
hardwick and his assistants should be sacked tonight en-masse. just get rid of them.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Chuck17 on April 24, 2015, 10:44:54 PM
I've got the truck full of poo and it's idling out the front

Get on board boys were gunna dump some poo
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: TigerLand on April 24, 2015, 10:48:40 PM
Have said it many times but yet again the lack of leadership shone like a beacon.

Until we get that right then these type of losses will just keep on keeping on

Is it Cotchins fault for not being something he probably isn't?

Who names the captain? Hardwick.  Who outs Chaplin in leadership group? Hardwick. Who has failed to develop leaders when our recruiting policy focused on drafting kids with leadership potential? Hardwick.

Can't click fingers and hope we have leadership. Club has failed to breed a decent leader across Hardwicks entire tenure. Pathetic
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: TigerMonk on April 24, 2015, 10:50:35 PM
A very bad loss No excuses Melbourne completely beat us in all positions. Onto next week  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 24, 2015, 10:54:44 PM
Have said it many times but yet again the lack of leadership shone like a beacon.

Until we get that right then these type of losses will just keep on keeping on

Is it Cotchins fault for not being something he probably isn't?

Who names the captain? Hardwick.  Who outs Chaplin in leadership group? Hardwick. Who has failed to develop leaders when our recruiting policy focused on drafting kids with leadership potential? Hardwick.

Can't click fingers and hope we have leadership. Club has failed to breed a decent leader across Hardwicks entire tenure. Pathetic
Isn't the leadership group voted on by the players?
Maybe its the selection system that needs to change.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 24, 2015, 10:55:31 PM
Have said it many times but yet again the lack of leadership shone like a beacon.

Until we get that right then these type of losses will just keep on keeping on

Is it Cotchins fault for not being something he probably isn't?

Who names the captain? Hardwick.  Who outs Chaplin in leadership group? Hardwick. Who has failed to develop leaders when our recruiting policy focused on drafting kids with leadership potential? Hardwick.

Can't click fingers and hope we have leadership. Club has failed to breed a decent leader across Hardwicks entire tenure. Pathetic

Actually the playing group & coaching group select the leadership group and vote on the captain

So they are all to blame for lack of leadership



Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tdy on April 24, 2015, 11:09:43 PM
I've got the truck full of poo and it's idling out the front

Get on board boys were gunna dump some poo

LOL your cackin me up
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: DCrane on April 24, 2015, 11:27:52 PM
The forward line structure was the worst I have seen under Hardwick.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: tdy on April 24, 2015, 11:28:38 PM
Ok after 15 mins to cool down here are my thoughts.

We are down 4 players who regularly play, Conca, Grimes, Pettard, Deledio.  thats 400+ odd games experience at a guess.  Thomas is also injured and a rookie.

The guys who are in as replacements are this lot and their disposals.

Matt Arnot   10
Kamdyn McIntosh   14
Matt McDonough   7
Nathan Drummond   5

thats probably 40-50 possessions less.

Also we have replaced Jake King with Sam Lloyd and we're definitely at a loss for that so far.

We are also playing Steven Morris out of position and it shows.  I saw one instance where he did a great defensive effort to win the ball outside the 50 and then the ball went forward to Griffiths inside the 50m arc, it fell to the ground and he wasn't there to crumb it.  He's half a forward pocket, just not the kicking goals half.  I may be selling him short he may have been the guy kicking it into the 50, but I dont think he was.

Chaplin didn't play that meant our back half was two talls down.  Astbury has too few games to replace Chaplin and\or Grimes.

Taylor Hunt went missing, is this why Geelong dumped him?

Ben Griffiths went missing too.

But other teams deal with being players down, I guess my original assertion that our list is shallow still holds.

We probably have 22 OK players to choose from but not 26.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Zlatan on April 24, 2015, 11:28:53 PM
The forward line structure was the worst I have seen under Hardwick.

and its normally always pretty crap
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: cub on April 25, 2015, 12:24:47 AM
Love/hate ?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 25, 2015, 05:59:40 PM
Actually there was a highlight for me last before I left the game at half time

Got to meet OER's Don Fistiki  :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 25, 2015, 06:02:09 PM
Actually there was a highlight for me last before I left the game at half time

Got to meet OER's Don Fistiki  :clapping
What's he like? Good bloke?
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 25, 2015, 06:06:11 PM
Actually there was a highlight for me last before I left the game at half time

Got to meet OER's Don Fistiki  :clapping
What's he like? Good bloke?

Yep  :thumbsup

Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on April 25, 2015, 06:27:46 PM
Actually there was a highlight for me last before I left the game at half time

Got to meet OER's Don Fistiki  :clapping

Got fella is " Don "
He loves the Tiges  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 25, 2015, 06:35:30 PM
Actually there was a highlight for me last before I left the game at half time

Got to meet OER's Don Fistiki  :clapping

Got fella is " Don "
He loves the Tiges  :thumbsup
Well that will be enough to get me back to the footy :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on April 25, 2015, 07:00:58 PM
Actually there was a highlight for me last before I left the game at half time

Got to meet OER's Don Fistiki  :clapping
Have met him too WP. Super bloke!
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: TigerMonk on April 25, 2015, 07:28:07 PM

Ben Griffiths went missing too.


Bit harsh on a 200+cm forward in those conditions. IMO Griffiths played ok apart from missing some easy goals which were costly at the time & failed to put the scoreboard pressure on when we had control. the rain was coming down harder than what some of our players produced in contests
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Penelope on April 25, 2015, 07:39:08 PM
i know its a poor excuse, but he did go missing when he went off injured
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: TigerMonk on April 25, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
i know its a poor excuse, but he did go missing when he went off injured

 :snidegrin
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 26, 2015, 10:10:11 PM
The Demons have the leaders that the Tigers crave

Ben Collins
afl.com.au
April 26, 2015


Richmond was supposed to be primed to strike this season. Instead, the Tigers themselves have been struck – and they're reeling. When the game was up for grabs in the third quarter against a Demons side they were meant to brush aside – especially when the Dees were down to just two men on the bench – the Tigers barely gave a yelp thereafter, conceding eight of the next nine goals. Why didn't Richmond have anyone to will themselves into the contest to stop the rot? How the Tigers would love to have ferocious types such as Nathan Jones, Aaron vandenBerg and youngsters Jesse Hogan and Angus Brayshaw – each of whom do the hard things automatically, as opposed to selectively.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-26/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-four
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: No More on April 26, 2015, 10:38:29 PM
The Demons have the leaders that the Tigers crave

Ben Collins
afl.com.au
April 26, 2015


Richmond was supposed to be primed to strike this season. Instead, the Tigers themselves have been struck – and they're reeling. When the game was up for grabs in the third quarter against a Demons side they were meant to brush aside – especially when the Dees were down to just two men on the bench – the Tigers barely gave a yelp thereafter, conceding eight of the next nine goals. Why didn't Richmond have anyone to will themselves into the contest to stop the rot? How the Tigers would love to have ferocious types such as Nathan Jones, Aaron vandenBerg and youngsters Jesse Hogan and Angus Brayshaw – each of whom do the hard things automatically, as opposed to selectively.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-26/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-four

everyone can see but not the people inside the 4 walls of the rfc. our club is a joke of an organization.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 26, 2015, 11:02:54 PM
The Demons have the leaders that the Tigers crave

Ben Collins
afl.com.au
April 26, 2015


Richmond was supposed to be primed to strike this season. Instead, the Tigers themselves have been struck – and they're reeling. When the game was up for grabs in the third quarter against a Demons side they were meant to brush aside – especially when the Dees were down to just two men on the bench – the Tigers barely gave a yelp thereafter, conceding eight of the next nine goals. Why didn't Richmond have anyone to will themselves into the contest to stop the rot? How the Tigers would love to have ferocious types such as Nathan Jones, Aaron vandenBerg and youngsters Jesse Hogan and Angus Brayshaw – each of whom do the hard things automatically, as opposed to selectively.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-26/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-four

everyone can see but not the people inside the 4 walls of the rfc. our club is a joke of an organization.

Our club can see it Ramps. Publically they won't admit it. Given we have 67K in memberships and a FTF donation at stake it would be financial kamikaze to do so. Give it a few more weeks if the  bad losses persist.
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: Andyy on April 26, 2015, 11:42:25 PM
Cotchin will be bear-hugged to death.

Our forward line will be effing flooded.

Loose melbourne players everywhere not being manned up, uncontested marks all night.

Not many goals scored.

Melbourne will want it more.


Can see it going this way...

Just about sums it up really...
Title: Re: Richmond vs Melbourne @ MCG - Round 4, 2015
Post by: one-eyed on April 28, 2015, 01:47:25 AM
Coaches' votes (Hardwick & Roos)

10 Nathan Jones (Melb)
5 Shane Edwards (Rich)
4 Jesse Hogan (Melb)
4 Bernie Vince (Melb)
3 Tom McDonald (Melb)
3 Aaron vandenBerg (Melb)
1 Ivan Maric (Rich)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-27/aflca-votes-round-four-