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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Tigeritis™©® on July 12, 2015, 06:41:29 PM
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Our forward structure must get better.
There is & will be a lot of talk this week about Freo's problem kicking goals but they have more points in their points for column than we do.
Even Stkilda has kicked more points than us.
Friday night we could've blasted the cheating scum out of the park but we squandered the chance with atrocious forward 50 entries all night.
Could only imagine how more productive it would've been if we got a small goal sneak tackling machine like Gartlett when we had the chance.
We need to find more than what we have currently.
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Ideally our 2nd tier would improve, allowing Lids, Martin, Chimp predominantly fwd
Theyd run riot, if the ball got there
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Our forward line lacks a quality quick and skillful crumbing small forward but we have still shown we can pour on the goals in quarter bursts even against the top sides when we click, use the ball well going forward and kick straight. We blasted Freo, Swans and the Pies away with 7-8 goal quarters. Problem is we don't start with or sustain that intensity and quality over four quarters. Our last three games have produced first halves of 3.5, 3.7 and 4.5. On Friday night, we butchered goalscoring chances by trying to hit that one extra target inside F50. Dusty, for example, had two clear chances to run to 50 under no physical pressure and launch for goal, yet both times he tried to pass it off to a contest where our lone forward was heavily outnumbered. I'd reckon I could count 10 times where we stuffed ourselves up by trying to be too unselfish.
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I actually think we've improved our kicking inside 50 - our best is far better than at any stage of Dimmas time at the club.
The issue is:-
A. Consistently delivering like we did against Fremantle
B. Our ability to hold the ball inside 50 (every week we lose the tackle count inside 50)
C. A high quality small forward who can do B but also snag goals at the fall
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I actually think we've improved our kicking inside 50 - our best is far better than at any stage of Dimmas time at the club.
The issue is:-
A. Consistently delivering like we did against Fremantle
B. Our ability to hold the ball inside 50 (every week we lose the tackle count inside 50)
C. A high quality small forward who can do B but also snag goals at the fall
This and how long have we been crying out for a small forward for but they don't listen.
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I actually think we've improved our kicking inside 50 - our best is far better than at any stage of Dimmas time at the club.
The issue is:-
A. Consistently delivering like we did against Fremantle
B. Our ability to hold the ball inside 50 (every week we lose the tackle count inside 50)
C. A high quality small forward who can do B but also snag goals at the fall
When teams full court press well, like the wce did
Its not so easy to do the malthouse style chip chip
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Bachelor. Astbury. Grimes.
C. Ellis. RanceAlex. Lennon.
B. Ellis. Miles. McIntosh.
Martin. Deledio. Reiwoldt.
Griffiths. Vickery. Cotchin.
Maric. Vlastuin. Edwards.
Lambert. Morris. Houli. Grigg. Knights. Hunt. *
* or sub in kids for the spuds
If dimma had the gonads to run something like they kick a few
Vlastuin won't be moved. He is like dimmas security blanket.
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The best crumbing small forward in AFL history would have made 2 parts of 5 eighths of f-all difference on Friday night. We delivered like 5hyte straight to an opposition backman or to an outnumbered option almost every time. Not even GAJ on steroids would have made any difference to that. But keep on thinking we are only a small crumbing forward from the flag if it floats your boat.
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The best crumbing small forward in AFL history would have made 2 parts of 5 eighths of f-all difference on Friday night. We delivered like 5hyte straight to an opposition backman or to an outnumbered option almost every time. Not even GAJ on steroids would have made any difference to that. But keep on thinking we are only a small crumbing forward from the flag if it floats your boat.
Dangerfield or tralor would be handy could it would allow you to pretty much play martin or cotchin all game FF
Tough match up cause like lids they don't have many weakness in air or ground
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Still gotta get the ball to them or near them Bents, something we failed miserably at on Friday night. stuffing Superman would have made no difference but keep blaming the lack of a small forward if you need to.
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The Tigers' tall focus hides a small weakness
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
July 12, 2015
There has been a lot of talk about Damien Hardwick's three-pronged forward line and the role it has played in Richmond's recent run of form. But with Ben Griffiths sidelined and delivery poor on Friday night, an effective small forward would have been invaluable. Steven Morris came into the team to face Carlton and was deployed as a defensive forward, with a two tackles and one handball his only stats in the first half. He finished with three disposals and three tackles. Formerly a hard-nosed small defender, Morris' transformation into a defensive forward has not yet worked and the Tigers could be better served in their top-four push by a creative player complementing their tall timber.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-07-12/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-15
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Still gotta get the ball to them or near them Bents, something we failed miserably at on Friday night. stuffing Superman would have made no difference but keep blaming the lack of a small forward if you need to.
Vlastuin
Titch
Miles
Are pretty trust worthy
It's the next rotation that's the issue
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Having Knights on our list is a real tease .
A fit Knights will add another dimension to our forward line.
But don't hold your breath.
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knights must be due to get a call up soon so the sub can get more than a quarter of footy
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Ha!
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Knights would be a good sub
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Knights would be a good sub
yeah for the reserves.
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Knights would be a good sub
yeah for the reserves.
Who you want the sub to be?
Hate the game not the player....
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Knights would be a good sub
yeah for the reserves.
Who you want the sub to be?
Hate the game not the player....
sorry just calling it as it is, which is a broken footballer that has struggled to provide anything to our club. Give a kid a go that wont break down. Plenty of options that havent been given game time down there at vfl level.
Rookie spot is the max we should give this bloke and thats all he deserves IMO.
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Knights would be a good sub
yeah for the reserves.
Who you want the sub to be?
Hate the game not the player....
sorry just calling it as it is, which is a broken footballer that has struggled to provide anything to our club. Give a kid a go that wont break down. Plenty of options that havent been given game time down there at vfl level.
Rookie spot is the max we should give this bloke and thats all he deserves IMO.
it's a crap thing the afl has invented. I'm surprised they have not been sued. Afl player association too busy sucking off Albert and little . It's a position where the guy might only get ten mins a game... Best case scenario. If you play a kid like Corey Ellis or Lennon you ruin the development. It's better playing those types the 21 or in the twos
If you play a plodder like Grigg or Newman you get someone with no weapons. Ie. can not run really fast or kick very good. Gordon would be ideal if he was not a headless chock.
I like menadue - cause he is so fast when he only plays 15mins he runs around like a mad dog. But again it's not good for his development to be sub full time?
As for knights specifically I hope he is on the rookie list next year. I think he is classy
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He has class when he plays
I did say the same thing about Higgins and look how well he is going so he may surprise us all. I just hate the fact the club wasted their money on these types (Newman, Foley, grigg, Graham) then can't nab an a grader if their life depended on it
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Having Knights on our list is a real tease .
A fit Knights will add another dimension to our forward line.
But don't hold your breath.
upgrade on morris...
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I like menadue - cause he is so fast when he only plays 15mins he runs around like a mad dog. But again it's not good for his development to be sub full time?
Plus he can't find the pill so the sub role gives him an excuse
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Not finding the pill hasn't stopped Newman being a walk up start for the last three seasons....or Morris for most of this season...
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Not finding the pill hasn't stopped Newman being a walk up start for the last three seasons....or Morris for most of this season...
Yeah and both should be dropped (or in Morris' case moved to the backline where he has actually played decent footy)
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Our forward structure must get better.
There is & will be a lot of talk this week about Freo's problem kicking goals but they have more points in their points for column than we do.
Even Stkilda has kicked more points than us.
Friday night we could've blasted the cheating scum out of the park but we squandered the chance with atrocious forward 50 entries all night.
Could only imagine how more productive it would've been if we got a small goal sneak tackling machine like Gartlett when we had the chance.
We need to find more than what we have currently.
My view on us not scoring nearly enough is how we set up with a 7 man back line, leaving us outnumbered in our forwardline on almost every occasion.
Personal is one thing but when we play one short every week it doesn't really matter who is there.
IMO the reason we do this is DH doesn't really trust our backman one on one and IMO it's mostly Houli he doesn't trust to defend properly. If he did we wouldn't need to set up this way every game we play. I have no problem doing it when teams get a run on but to do it each and every game really takes away from our scoring ability. That's why we very rarely have big wins even against the weaker sides.
Up the other end we kick it to the pockets to get stoppages so we can get time to even up in our forwardline. We also set up all bunched up so their loose man isn't just alone to do whatever he likes. Giving our forwards little opportunity to get one on ones with their direct opponents.
How many really easy goals do we get? None! We work really hard for every score and it's even harder when we get our shots from the pockets. We are just lucky we have Jack who can beat a couple of opponents and can kick it straight.
Just my take.
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Forgot Ricky petterd was alive
As a forward. Probably better than Newman, morris, grigg too
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IMO the reason we do this is DH doesn't really trust our backman one on one and IMO it's mostly Houli he doesn't trust to defend properly
:lol
some of the funniest poo I have read in quite a while.
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IMO the reason we do this is DH doesn't really trust our backman one on one and IMO it's mostly Houli he doesn't trust to defend properly
:lol
some of the funniest poo I have read in quite a while.
Houli defending is dodgy
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maybe, but not the point at hand.
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IMO the reason we do this is DH doesn't really trust our backman one on one and IMO it's mostly Houli he doesn't trust to defend properly
:lol
some of the funniest poo I have read in quite a while.
:lol Doesn't realise Houli is the 7th man.
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Started the last with chimp and lids forward
Looks potent. Shame the ballbdidnt ggo there