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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 17, 2015, 11:43:51 AM
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Richmond CEO Brendon Gale discusses the club's 2015 profit, its 2016 membership campaign, and when a contract extension for Damien Hardwick could be looked at.
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Dimma is contracted, will be reviewed: Gale
Joshua Papanikolaou
SEN
17 Nov 2015
Richmond will formally review Damien Hardwick’s position as senior coach of the club before determining if they give him a contract extension, says Brendon Gale.
The Tigers have somewhat of a tough decision to make given they have improved significantly since Hardwick took over, but are yet to win a final.
“It’s not something we’ve thought long and hard enough for just yet, I mean Damien is contracted for another year,” said Gale on SEN radio.
“Right now, we are reviewing all aspects of our organisation and he is no different.
“We’ll form a view as to how we actually approach that in the not too distant future.
“What I will say is this, we’ve worked hard over the last few years to create a supportive, stable and accountable environment.”
Hardwick is preparing for his seventh season in charge at Punt Rd and Gale is satisfied with the condition of the list after the trade period.
Despite missing out on all their big targets they were able to add a few players and will have pick 12 in the upcoming national draft.
“Look, I think so (they did enough during trade week),” said Gale.
“We’ve approached these things very methodically and last year we decided we weren’t going to be as active.
“Clearly we were on record as having a very strong interest in Adam Treloar, we’d earmarked Chris Yarran early but we added a few inside midfielders like Andrew Moore.”
Off the field the Tigers are in a relatively strong position after posting a $458,000 profit for this year.
“It’s a strong result and we certainly don’t take that for granted,” said Gale.
“Essentially we a non-for-profit, it is not or aim or intention to record massive big surpluses.
“We take money from our core sponsorship to basically re-invest back into our football team.”
http://www.sen.com.au/news/11-15/dimma-is-contracted-will-be-reviewed-gale#hCJUqlbgcl5h15bJ.99
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From the HUN
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Richmond in no rush to re-sign coach Damien Hardwick
November 17, 2015 9:56am
Herald Sun
RICHMOND is in no rush to extend coach Damien Hardwick’s contract, according to chief executive Brendon Gale.
Hardwick is contracted until the end of 2016 but a pass mark for the Tigers next year will be to win a final.
The Tigers have played finals in the past three seasons but has lost at the first hurdle each time.
Even though a contract extension appears likely, Gale said Hardwick’s position will be considered as part of a club review next year.
“It’s not something we’ve thought long and hard enough for just yet, I mean Damien is contracted for another year,” Gale told SEN this morning.
“Right now, we are reviewing all aspects of our organisation and he is no different
“We’ll form a view as to how we actually approach that in the not too distant future.
“What I will say is this, we’ve worked hard over the last few years to create a supportive, stable and accountable environment.”
Gale earlier this year said Hardwick was the right man to lead the club and calls for him to be sacked after the Tigers started the season 2-2 were “a very shortsighted view”.
Richmond’s first to fourth-year players started pre-season training last week and recruit Chris Yarran had his first session at the club yesterday.
The Tigers missed out on top trade target Adam Treloar but Gale was satisfied with securing Yarran and Greater Western Sydney midfielder Jacob Townsend during the trade period, and later recruiting Port Adelaide midfielder Andrew Moore as a delisted free agent.
“We’ve approached these things very methodically and last year we decided we weren’t going to be as active,” Gale said.
“Clearly we were on record as having a very strong interest in Adam Treloar, we’d earmarked Chris Yarran early but we added a few inside midfielders like Andrew Moore.”
Richmond, meanwhile, continues to go from strength to strength off the field after announcing a $459,000 profit.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-in-no-rush-to-resign-coach-damien-hardwick/news-story/3bb86c87ef9fe5aff44cd9bd58f759c9
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And from John Ralph's twitter
Everything the Tigers do is about stability. Be stunned if he didn't get an extension before Round 1 https://t.co/PjplhsRN7n
— Jon Ralph (@RalphyHeraldSun) November 16, 2015
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Results on the ladder are stable too, wonder if there is support for that?
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As long as we're not as shyte as Richmond sides of the past - that's enough apparently.
#Standards.
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setting the bar high there
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Hardwick is contracted until the end of 2016 but a pass mark for the Tigers next year will be to win a final
Yep!
The thing with uninspired administrative decisions is........they all still get paid.
It's as though they have a business plan that offers them financial security without either improvement
or first grade success.
It's a shame that they have been so cowardly behind the scenes
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its the , 'peeing in the Wind" approach
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Hardwick is contracted until the end of 2016 but a pass mark for the Tigers next year will be to win a final
Yep!
The thing with uninspired administrative decisions is........they all still get paid.
It's as though they have a business plan that offers them financial security without either improvement
or first grade success.
It's a shame that they have been so cowardly behind the scenes
on track to win a flag by 2039
:clapping
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Hardwick is contracted until the end of 2016 but a pass mark for the Tigers next year will be to win a final
Yep!
The thing with uninspired administrative decisions is........they all still get paid.
It's as though they have a business plan that offers them financial security without either improvement
or first grade success.
It's a shame that they have been so cowardly behind the scenes
Why is the benchmark for Hardwick's extension "win 1 final".
Last year's benchmark according to Peggy was 1 win, we failed last season and we failed this season so why is last years benchmark next season's benchmark?
Next seasons benchmark should be a good showing in the preliminary final , nothing less. If Hardwick can't deliver then move him on.
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Hardwick is contracted until the end of 2016 but a pass mark for the Tigers next year will be to win a final
Yep!
The thing with uninspired administrative decisions is........they all still get paid.
It's as though they have a business plan that offers them financial security without either improvement
or first grade success.
It's a shame that they have been so cowardly behind the scenes
Why is the benchmark for Hardwick's extension "win 1 final".
Last year's benchmark according to Peggy was 1 win, we failed last season and we failed this season so why is last years benchmark next season's benchmark?
Next seasons benchmark should be a good showing in the preliminary final , nothing less. If Hardwick can't deliver then move him on.
Ok who would you suggest as a replacement?
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Maybe the admin recognise that our team still needs 3-4 players to make it a bona fide contender.
They would thus think it's unfair to expect Dimma to win a premiership.
So maybe a "pass" would be a finals win. A good grade, maybe a "B", would be a prelim final. An "A" would be a GF and an "A+" would be a flag.
For me, I would think that a top 4 finish is vital.
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Hardwick is contracted until the end of 2016 but a pass mark for the Tigers next year will be to win a final
Yep!
The thing with uninspired administrative decisions is........they all still get paid.
It's as though they have a business plan that offers them financial security without either improvement
or first grade success.
It's a shame that they have been so cowardly behind the scenes
Why is the benchmark for Hardwick's extension "win 1 final".
Last year's benchmark according to Peggy was 1 win, we failed last season and we failed this season so why is last years benchmark next season's benchmark?
Next seasons benchmark should be a good showing in the preliminary final , nothing less. If Hardwick can't deliver then move him on.
Ok who would you suggest as a replacement?
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/03/21/1226861/472800-efd9614a-b0b8-11e3-bf6a-6ec13e402258.jpg)
:shh
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As long as we're not as shyte as Richmond sides of the past - that's enough apparently.
#Standards.
Yeah, bugger progression and skip straight to all the premiership glory
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As long as we're not as shyte as Richmond sides of the past - that's enough apparently.
#Standards.
Yeah, bugger progression and skip straight to all the premiership glory
Yeah slow & steady wins the race...... here's to the 10 year rebuild! (http://r31.imgfast.net/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/850624.gif)
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Take a premiership when it comes rather than flip chips everywhere and never accomplish anything
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Hardwick is contracted until the end of 2016 but a pass mark for the Tigers next year will be to win a final
Yep!
The thing with uninspired administrative decisions is........they all still get paid.
It's as though they have a business plan that offers them financial security without either improvement
or first grade success.
It's a shame that they have been so cowardly behind the scenes
Why is the benchmark for Hardwick's extension "win 1 final".
Last year's benchmark according to Peggy was 1 win, we failed last season and we failed this season so why is last years benchmark next season's benchmark?
Next seasons benchmark should be a good showing in the preliminary final , nothing less. If Hardwick can't deliver then move him on.
Think I agree with your sentiment but you're logic baffles me a bit. If you set an aim and don't achieve it, it doesn't quite make sense to increase the aim with the expectation of making it.
i.e You're a high jumper, you can't clear 1.8m, why would the logical step be to set the bar at 1.85m and expect to clear that?
But I agree, prelim final or bust for dimma, although despite this years and last years elim final losses i feel we're closer that those showings suggest.
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Hardwick is contracted until the end of 2016 but a pass mark for the Tigers next year will be to win a final
Yep!
The thing with uninspired administrative decisions is........they all still get paid.
It's as though they have a business plan that offers them financial security without either improvement
or first grade success.
It's a shame that they have been so cowardly behind the scenes
Why is the benchmark for Hardwick's extension "win 1 final".
Last year's benchmark according to Peggy was 1 win, we failed last season and we failed this season so why is last years benchmark next season's benchmark?
Next seasons benchmark should be a good showing in the preliminary final , nothing less. If Hardwick can't deliver then move him on.
Think I agree with your sentiment but you're logic baffles me a bit. If you set an aim and don't achieve it, it doesn't quite make sense to increase the aim with the expectation of making it.
i.e You're a high jumper, you can't clear 1.8m, why would the logical step be to set the bar at 1.85m and expect to clear that?
But I agree, prelim final or bust for dimma, although despite this years and last years elim final losses i feel we're closer that those showings suggest.
you forgot the year before also mate :thumbsup
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Hardwick is contracted until the end of 2016 but a pass mark for the Tigers next year will be to win a final
Yep!
The thing with uninspired administrative decisions is........they all still get paid.
It's as though they have a business plan that offers them financial security without either improvement
or first grade success.
It's a shame that they have been so cowardly behind the scenes
Why is the benchmark for Hardwick's extension "win 1 final".
Last year's benchmark according to Peggy was 1 win, we failed last season and we failed this season so why is last years benchmark next season's benchmark?
Next seasons benchmark should be a good showing in the preliminary final , nothing less. If Hardwick can't deliver then move him on.
Think I agree with your sentiment but you're logic baffles me a bit. If you set an aim and don't achieve it, it doesn't quite make sense to increase the aim with the expectation of making it.
i.e You're a high jumper, you can't clear 1.8m, why would the logical step be to set the bar at 1.85m and expect to clear that?
But I agree, prelim final or bust for dimma, although despite this years and last years elim final losses i feel we're closer that those showings suggest.
you forgot the year before also mate :thumbsup
yes he did
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if you lose in a final to 9th, does it count?
if a tree falls in a forest and there is not one there...
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IMO why would we need to extend DH contract now. He has a year to run on his current one so why sign him again until then.
Let 2016 play out and then make a call. He isn't going anywhere!!
The RFC don't owe him anything other than to let his contract play out. If he earns an extension Im 100% sure all Tigers supporters and members would be happy for him to stick around.
I personally don't think he can take us any further but I would be willing to change my mind if he changed a few things and won at least 1 final as the bare minimum.
Surely in your 6th year, the club can set him a definite pass mark AND STICK TO IT. He has had long enough to change everything he inherited when he took over. It's time for results or it's time to move on.
Also using the excuse of "who else is there" is the most unprofessional attitude there is.
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IMO why would we need to extend DH contract now. He has a year to run on his current one so why sign him again until then.
Let 2016 play out and then make a call. He isn't going anywhere!!
The RFC don't owe him anything other than to let his contract play out. If he earns an extension Im 100% sure all Tigers supporters and members would be happy for him to stick around.
I personally don't think he can take us any further but I would be willing to change my mind if he changed a few things and won at least 1 final as the bare minimum.
Surely in your 6th year, the club can set him a definite pass mark AND STICK TO IT. He has had long enough to change everything he inherited when he took over. It's time for results or it's time to move on.
Also using the excuse of "who else is there" is the most unprofessional attitude there is.
Very well put big tone. :clapping
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Sign him for another three years, at which point Newy would have completed his apprenticeship at Harvard and be ready to take over the reigns :shh
The first step has already been taken :clapping
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IMO why would we need to extend DH contract now. He has a year to run on his current one so why sign him again until then.
Let 2016 play out and then make a call. He isn't going anywhere!!
The RFC don't owe him anything other than to let his contract play out. If he earns an extension Im 100% sure all Tigers supporters and members would be happy for him to stick around.
I personally don't think he can take us any further but I would be willing to change my mind if he changed a few things and won at least 1 final as the bare minimum.
Surely in your 6th year, the club can set him a definite pass mark AND STICK TO IT. He has had long enough to change everything he inherited when he took over. It's time for results or it's time to move on.
Also using the excuse of "who else is there" is the most unprofessional attitude there is.
Very well put big tone. :clapping
Totally agree
Excellent post :clapping
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While 7 years is a long time in footy you still gotta realize his first 4 or was it 5 years were compromised drafts . So he has done well to play finals given also he has kept about 5 players from the wallace era. I mean half the list was gone in 2 years and the players they had to bring in were pretty ordinary.
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Sign him for another three years, at which point Newy would have completed his apprenticeship at Harvard and be ready to take over the reigns :shh
The first step has already been taken :clapping
Grade A choice cuts from Bojangleburg right there :clapping
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Maybe the admin recognise that our team still needs 3-4 players to make it a bona fide contender.
They would thus think it's unfair to expect Dimma to win a premiership.
So maybe a "pass" would be a finals win. A good grade, maybe a "B", would be a prelim final. An "A" would be a GF and an "A+" would be a flag.
For me, I would think that a top 4 finish is vital.
so why arent the blokes who have been there 10 yrs and 7 yrs who have been given the job to build the list not in the gun.It is an inordinate amount of time and frankly to date we have not looked like contending.
Ah tiger supporters always happy with mediocrity.
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when are you going to start working for RFC and lead us to the promised land, oh great one?
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when are you going to start working for RFC and lead us to the promised land, oh great one?
Who me?? No way i would not go near them. competence honesty and professionalism are things i value highly. They dont go well with mediocrity spin and incompetence.Maybe you should apply those things seem to go well with you.
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nah, c'mon just once, put your money where your mouth is. clearly you are the person to turn things around at tigerland. surely the challenge is not too great for someone as great as you?
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Maybe the admin recognise that our team still needs 3-4 players to make it a bona fide contender.
They would thus think it's unfair to expect Dimma to win a premiership.
So maybe a "pass" would be a finals win. A good grade, maybe a "B", would be a prelim final. An "A" would be a GF and an "A+" would be a flag.
For me, I would think that a top 4 finish is vital.
so why arent the blokes who have been there 10 yrs and 7 yrs who have been given the job to build the list not in the gun.It is an inordinate amount of time and frankly to date we have not looked like contending.
Ah tiger supporters always happy with mediocrity.
im glad someone can see sense here. A pass a finals win. FMD.
After 7 years/10 with francis hackson a pass is not a finals win and lets hope gale is starting to see that.
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nah, c'mon just once, put your money where your mouth is. clearly you are the person to turn things around at tigerland. surely the challenge is not too great for someone as great as you?
come now stop deluding yourself, wait!!!! delusion is a pre requisite id say. Its perfect your an even better fit than i thought. Go for it, if you cant get your way you could try charm .
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geez claw, I defend you all the time against those that say you are all pee and wind. Nah I tell them claw has the substance to back up his incessant rants about how much better he could do things.
Dont let me down by proving them right now
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geez claw, I defend you all the time against those that say you are all pee and wind. Nah I tell them claw has the substance to back up his incessant rants about how much better he could do things.
Dont let me down by proving them right now
Im sorry Penny, you dont mind me calling you penny i hope. I only want what is best for the club and your the better man. Go for it you know you want to i could not care less what the nuffies think.
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Maybe the admin recognise that our team still needs 3-4 players to make it a bona fide contender.
They would thus think it's unfair to expect Dimma to win a premiership.
So maybe a "pass" would be a finals win. A good grade, maybe a "B", would be a prelim final. An "A" would be a GF and an "A+" would be a flag.
For me, I would think that a top 4 finish is vital.
so why arent the blokes who have been there 10 yrs and 7 yrs who have been given the job to build the list not in the gun.It is an inordinate amount of time and frankly to date we have not looked like contending.
Ah tiger supporters always happy with mediocrity.
You're posting as if nothing has been done at RFC to improve recruiting. Luke Williams was employed and several scouts have been added. Our football expenditure has gone up exponentially in 7 years.
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geez claw, I defend you all the time against those that say you are all pee and wind. Nah I tell them claw has the substance to back up his incessant rants about how much better he could do things.
Dont let me down by proving them right now
Im sorry Penny, you dont mind me calling you penny i hope. I only want what is best for the club and your the better man. Go for it you know you want to i could not care less what the nuffies think.
I do mind. my name is Penelope, and Penelope is a not a man's name so I cant be the best man for the job.
Show some respect FFS
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Maybe the admin recognise that our team still needs 3-4 players to make it a bona fide contender.
They would thus think it's unfair to expect Dimma to win a premiership.
So maybe a "pass" would be a finals win. A good grade, maybe a "B", would be a prelim final. An "A" would be a GF and an "A+" would be a flag.
For me, I would think that a top 4 finish is vital.
so why arent the blokes who have been there 10 yrs and 7 yrs who have been given the job to build the list not in the gun.It is an inordinate amount of time and frankly to date we have not looked like contending.
Ah tiger supporters always happy with mediocrity.
You're posting as if nothing has been done at RFC to improve recruiting. Luke Williams was employed and several scouts have been added. Our football expenditure has gone up exponentially in 7 years.
No doubting any of that Y&BB but while FJ is in charge of recruiting we are doomed. We haven't got the balls to show him the door.
I don't think even the biggest of opptomists can defend his record.
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geez claw, I defend you all the time against those that say you are all pee and wind. Nah I tell them claw has the substance to back up his incessant rants about how much better he could do things.
Dont let me down by proving them right now
Im sorry Penny, you dont mind me calling you penny i hope. I only want what is best for the club and your the better man. Go for it you know you want to i could not care less what the nuffies think.
I do mind. my name is Penelope, and Penelope is a not a man's name so I cant be the best man for the job.
Show some respect FFS
Sorry luv. My trouble is i m new age and treat the girlies just like anyone else.Its not really about respect but more a term of endearment. :snidegrin
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luv is such a derogatory, condescending term, It is not "new age" but the realm stone age, chauvinistic misogynists.
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geez claw, I defend you all the time against those that say you are all pee and wind. Nah I tell them claw has the substance to back up his incessant rants about how much better he could do things.
Dont let me down by proving them right now
Im sorry Penny, you dont mind me calling you penny i hope. I only want what is best for the club and your the better man. Go for it you know you want to i could not care less what the nuffies think.
That's not cricket Clawski
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Maybe the admin recognise that our team still needs 3-4 players to make it a bona fide contender.
They would thus think it's unfair to expect Dimma to win a premiership.
So maybe a "pass" would be a finals win. A good grade, maybe a "B", would be a prelim final. An "A" would be a GF and an "A+" would be a flag.
For me, I would think that a top 4 finish is vital.
so why arent the blokes who have been there 10 yrs and 7 yrs who have been given the job to build the list not in the gun.It is an inordinate amount of time and frankly to date we have not looked like contending.
Ah tiger supporters always happy with mediocrity.
You're posting as if nothing has been done at RFC to improve recruiting. Luke Williams was employed and several scouts have been added. Our football expenditure has gone up exponentially in 7 years.
Yet still mid table. Please
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Maybe the admin recognise that our team still needs 3-4 players to make it a bona fide contender.
They would thus think it's unfair to expect Dimma to win a premiership.
So maybe a "pass" would be a finals win. A good grade, maybe a "B", would be a prelim final. An "A" would be a GF and an "A+" would be a flag.
For me, I would think that a top 4 finish is vital.
so why arent the blokes who have been there 10 yrs and 7 yrs who have been given the job to build the list not in the gun.It is an inordinate amount of time and frankly to date we have not looked like contending.
Ah tiger supporters always happy with mediocrity.
You're posting as if neeothing has been done at RFC to improve recruiting. Luke Williams was employed and several scouts have been added. Our football expenditure has gone up exponentially in 7 years.
Yet still mid table. Please
Results from recruiting take time. Everyone is giving Collingwood time....
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Maybe the admin recognise that our team still needs 3-4 players to make it a bona fide contender.
They would thus think it's unfair to expect Dimma to win a premiership.
So maybe a "pass" would be a finals win. A good grade, maybe a "B", would be a prelim final. An "A" would be a GF and an "A+" would be a flag.
For me, I would think that a top 4 finish is vital.
so why arent the blokes who have been there 10 yrs and 7 yrs who have been given the job to build the list not in the gun.It is an inordinate amount of time and frankly to date we have not looked like contending.
Ah tiger supporters always happy with mediocrity.
You're posting as if neeothing has been done at RFC to improve recruiting. Luke Williams was employed and several scouts have been added. Our football expenditure has gone up exponentially in 7 years.
Yet still mid table. Please
Results from recruiting take time. Everyone is giving Collingwood time....
Lol they made top 4 in 2012 and won a final. made finals in 2013. you could argue they have been in rebuild for just 2 yrs.
No one is arguing we have not got better in all areas. The question is does improvement equal good enough.Cmon look open your eyes wwith the off field improvement we have had, the team and footy dept in particular could only improve. It is in this context that you have to ask have we improved enough are we ticking enough boxes. For many of us that is a resounding no.
We have been so starved of success that even mediocre improvement is better than where we were.But is it really good enough? Not by a long shot.
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Maybe the admin recognise that our team still needs 3-4 players to make it a bona fide contender.
They would thus think it's unfair to expect Dimma to win a premiership.
So maybe a "pass" would be a finals win. A good grade, maybe a "B", would be a prelim final. An "A" would be a GF and an "A+" would be a flag.
For me, I would think that a top 4 finish is vital.
so why arent the blokes who have been there 10 yrs and 7 yrs who have been given the job to build the list not in the gun.It is an inordinate amount of time and frankly to date we have not looked like contending.
Ah tiger supporters always happy with mediocrity.
You're posting as if neeothing has been done at RFC to improve recruiting. Luke Williams was employed and several scouts have been added. Our football expenditure has gone up exponentially in 7 years.
Yet still mid table. Please
Results from recruiting take time. Everyone is giving Collingwood time....
Lol they made top 4 in 2012 and won a final. made finals in 2013. you could argue they have been in rebuild for just 2 yrs.
No one is arguing we have not got better in all areas. The question is does improvement equal good enough.Cmon look open your eyes wwith the off field improvement we have had, the team and footy dept in particular could only improve. It is in this context that you have to ask have we improved enough are we ticking enough boxes. For many of us that is a resounding no.
We have been so starved of success that even mediocre improvement is better than where we were.But is it really good enough? Not by a long shot.
Gee wiz listen to you and we'd all be lead to believe Collingwood has rebuilt for 2 years and are now in premiership contention.
:sleep :sleep talk to me when they actually do something after this "amazing" rebuild, because for now it's all speculation and you rubbing your balls in excitement over the prospect of a team surpassing us