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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WilliamPowell on May 12, 2016, 06:24:52 PM
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From Patrick Keane twitter
Rich v Syd
IN : Rance, Grimes
OUT: McIntosh, Castagna.
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Good Ins but do not like outs.
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The Round 8 Richmond team
B: Rance, Chaplin, Grimes
HB: Deledio, Houli, B. Ellis
C: Grigg, Vlastuin, Menadue
HF: Short, Martin, Rioli
F: Riewoldt, Lloyd, Vickery
R: Griffiths, Edwards, Miles
IC: C. Ellis, Hampson, Batchelor, Morris
Em: A. Moore, Hunt, Castagna
In: Grimes, Rance
Out: McIntosh (ankle), Castagna
From
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-12/round-8-team-announcement
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bad news about injury to McIntosh.
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A.Moore & Hunt in the emergencies.... :bow
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How can we be 1 and 6 and DH has barely dropped a senior player?
Maric is one but his injuries even made that a bit easier.
Miles probably the only other that I can remember.
Anyone else?
It's either forced changes due to injuries or kids in their first or second seasons.
Dimma and the RFC deserve all the get.
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Possibly the backup is even worse that what's currently in the side
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How can we be 1 and 6 and DH has barely dropped a senior player?
Maric is one but his injuries even made that a bit easier.
Miles probably the only other that I can remember.
Anyone else?
It's either forced changes due to injuries or kids in their first or second seasons.
Dimma and the RFC deserve all the get.
The standards Derwood sets for seniors are so low, no wonder our players do not improve. Why would you if you keep on getting senior game time despite not chasing, blocking, shepherding, gut running and putting your body on the line.
And then we wonder why we have stagnated. :whistle
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How can we be 1 and 6 and DH has barely dropped a senior player?
Its completely stuffing discraceful. :banghead
Morris selected again FFS.
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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How can we be 1 and 6 and DH has barely dropped a senior player?
Its completely stuffing discraceful. :banghead
Morris selected again FFS.
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Stuffin Chaplin and Griffiths LMAO
Nuthin changes. Unbeleivable.
Part of me hopes we get absolutely deficated on so this era of playing Hardwicks hacks is well and truly ceased.
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:help
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Possibly the backup is even worse that what's currently in the side
Yeah.....nah.....
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Possibly the backup is even worse that what's currently in the side
How would we even know?
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Hardwick is a stuffing moron thats all anyone needs to know
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Possibly the backup is even worse that what's currently in the side
How would we even know?
:clapping
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Possibly the backup is even worse that what's currently in the side
How would we even know?
:clapping
Go and watch the magoos that's one way
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Has to be the best time of week. Richmond selection day nothing comes close to it for hilarity.
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Possibly the backup is even worse that what's currently in the side
How would we even know?
:clapping
Go and watch the magoos that's one way
That won't necessarily always tell you everything Chucky....
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give you a pretty good idea though
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Lol
I'm happy for dimmer to wear another pumping by his own hand.
No pun intended.
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give you a pretty good idea though
Yes but sometimes you get an even better idea when blokes actually play at the next level.....not unusual for players to perform better the higher they go, just as it's it's not unusual for players who look a million dollars in the reserves to look like duds in the seniors....
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Possibly the backup is even worse that what's currently in the side
How would we even know?
:clapping
Go and watch the magoos that's one way
I have watched some of the seconds games Chucky. Have you?
I look at traits that may translate to good AFL performances.
They are independent of effort as that may be affected by loss of motivation that may have arise from never getting picked. Some of our players display those traits while others don't.
As big tone has stated, some players just need better players around them to shine.
If you have lost 6 games in a row it would be prudent to shake up those not performing too. Even if a guy like Butler hasn't set the world on fire in the magoos, giving him a chance and telling a senior dude to pick up his game by dropping him, is not unreasonable when the team is travelling like it is.
Or do you think you do SFA and play the same duds every game?
What do you think since you obviously watch the seconds?
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not unusual? maybe not as it does happen, but it would not be the more common occurrence. it's more likely that if someone is spudding it up at one level they will spud it up more at the higher level.
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And the message that you'll likely get a go in the 1s regardless of your performances in the magoos isn't a great alternative ethos imo.
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What about the message that no matter how lazy certain blokes are or how badly they play in the seniors or for how many matches they do so, they'll never get dropped?
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they are already ruined. do we want those replacing them to have the same attitude?
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Looking forward to Rance Vs the entire Swans forward line
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they are already ruined. do we want those replacing them to have the same attitude?
Well you tell them they have a block of games to show their wares and if they don't show something after that block, they go back to the magoos. That would be a reasonable start.
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or you tell them there is a senior spot waiting for them if they get it right at the lower level and see what they are made of.
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or you tell them there is a senior spot waiting for them if they get it right at the lower level and see what they are made of.
Sometimes it's hard to fly with the eagles when you are surrounded by turkeys.
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depends on if you have the heart of a turkey or the heart of an eagle to start with
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depends on if you have the heart of a turkey or the heart of an eagle to start with
Or you had an eagle heart to start with that shrunk as a result of lack of feeding and shrivelled up into a turkey heart.
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something like that
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Could you possibly take a little from both arguments but differentiate based on a players make up? Rioli is one example of a first year player who didn't show much at all in the pre season gsmes apart from promise but plays all 7 games.
There might be a few more of that ilk wallowing in the 2's.
Conversely misery loves company and perhaps Chaplin, Morris & Hampson could join Townsend, Hunt & Moore in the never to wear a Richmond senior jumper club,
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Of coarse, rarely does one size fit all.. The problem is that besides the tried and proven spuds, there is not much being being shown at VFL level at all.
Lennon at least shows something at both levels, but hardwick clearly doesnt like him,
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they are already ruined. do we want those replacing them to have the same attitude?
Depends how you look at it.....why persist with blokes who we know are already ruined because there's a chance some kid who isn't yet, might be? How long do you wait for the kids to start tearing it up in the VFL while the seniors continue to spud it up? Both sides are currently propping up their respective comps. It's not like we have 42 blokes that are all demanding selection. Of course I'm also working on the rather hopeful premise that a lot of the old list cloggers will be moved on come the end of this year , so therefore the we'll have to play more of the kids next year regardless and with that in mind I'd rather they went into next year with at least a dozen more AFL matches under their belts and with the club having a better idea of where they're at.
If we clear out the football department then we can always reset in the off season by hopefully bringing in new people who'll bring higher standards to impose on the group.....because the current lot aren't and haven't and after seven years are unlikely to, whichever way you look at it....
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The season is shot, if your a smart team you play the duds in the hope they have currency at seasons end to use as trade bait ( it works on us ) for some genuinely good footballers ( you know the ones that can actually play football properly)
At the same time, making it difficult on the youngsters getting a senior birth, this hopefully raises the standards of the next crop of recruits in the reserves, giving them a high level of acheivement to attain before getting senior selection.
.......unfortunately Richmond isn't smart, aren't good at development & don't have a competitive reserves team that can develop the youngsters effectively and every other team in the competition already know how bad our duds really are. :rollin
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Sydney Swans
B: Dane Rampe , Ted Richards , Nick Smith
HB: Jeremy Laidler , Heath Grundy , Callum Mills
C: Jarrad McVeigh , Josh P. Kennedy , Harry Cunningham
HF: Isaac Heeney , Lance Franklin , Kieren Jack
F: Luke Parker , Kurt Tippett , Tom Papley
Foll: Callum Sinclair , Tom Mitchell , Dan Hannebery
I/C: George Hewett , Zak Jones , Jake Lloyd , Dean Towers
Emg: Brandon Jack , Tyrone Leonardis , Toby Nankervis
In: Ted Richards , Dean Towers
Out: Ben McGlynn (Leg), Daniel Robinson (Shoulder)
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/teams
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The season is shot, if your a smart team you play the duds in the hope they have currency at seasons end to use as trade bait ( it works on us ) for some genuinely good footballers ( you know the ones that can actually play football properly)
At the same time, making it difficult on the youngsters getting a senior birth, this hopefully raises the standards of the next crop of recruits in the reserves, giving them a high level of acheivement to attain before getting senior selection.
.......unfortunately Richmond isn't smart, aren't good at development & don't have a competitive reserves team that can develop the youngsters effectively and every other team in the competition already know how bad our duds really are. :rollin
Smart teams in our situation nearly always start blooding the kids and put the cue in the rack....dumb teams do what you're suggesting....and we're a dumb team, so therefore we'll more likely keep playing the same old hacks until the bitter end as we desperately try to get another best ninth ever............and if we come good -but still miss finals- we'll again delude ourselves that the list is actually pretty good and all those duds have turned the corner or have a few more years left yet and fall over ourselves in the rush to re-sign them all and be locked and loaded for a finals assualt next year....then we'll have a nice little nap during trade week again before Hackson wakes up just in time to bungle another draft armed with middling picks.....
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They are independent of effort as that may be affected by loss of motivation that may have arise from never getting picked. Some of our players display those traits while others don't.
So you accept players who don't put the effort in just because they are having a sulk? They should be delisted not rewarded
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depends on if you have the heart of a turkey or the heart of an eagle to start with
So if the forwards in the Vfl side had bigger hearts
The would go to that part of the ground more often?
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The season is shot, if your a smart team you play the duds in the hope they have currency at seasons end to use as trade bait ( it works on us ) for some genuinely good footballers ( you know the ones that can actually play football properly)
At the same time, making it difficult on the youngsters getting a senior birth, this hopefully raises the standards of the next crop of recruits in the reserves, giving them a high level of acheivement to attain before getting senior selection.
.......unfortunately Richmond isn't smart, aren't good at development & don't have a competitive reserves team that can develop the youngsters effectively and every other team in the competition already know how bad our duds really are. :rollin
Smart teams in our situation nearly always start blooding the kids and put the cue in the rack....dumb teams do what you're suggesting....and we're a dumb team, so therefore we'll more likely keep playing the same old hacks until the bitter end as we desperately try to get another best ninth ever............and if we come good -but still miss finals- we'll again delude ourselves that the list is actually pretty good and all those duds have turned the corner or have a few more years left yet and fall over ourselves in the rush to re-sign them all and be locked and loaded for a finals assualt next year....then we'll have a nice little nap during trade week again before Hackson wakes up just in time to bungle another draft armed with middling picks.....
Spot on
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Sydney Swans
B: Dane Rampe , Ted Richards , Nick Smith
HB: Jeremy Laidler , Heath Grundy , Callum Mills
C: Jarrad McVeigh , Josh P. Kennedy , Harry Cunningham
HF: Isaac Heeney , Lance Franklin , Kieren Jack
F: Luke Parker , Kurt Tippett , Tom Papley
Foll: Callum Sinclair , Tom Mitchell , Dan Hannebery
I/C: George Hewett , Zak Jones , Jake Lloyd , Dean Towers
Emg: Brandon Jack , Tyrone Leonardis , Toby Nankervis
In: Ted Richards , Dean Towers
Out: Ben McGlynn (Leg), Daniel Robinson (Shoulder)
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/teams
So who plays on Tippett? Batchelor or Chaplin?
Another master stroke by Dimma.
I'm not much of a fan of Astbury but the one roll I think he can play is that on the resting ruckman in the forwardline.
The other 2 cannot.
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On a serious note:
Reading all this and the team selections is really depressing me.
Does anyone else feel that way?
I know the answer is switch off and don't follow it or read it but I am inextricably tied to the RFC, in a non transferable supporters bond.
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I seriously wonder if some on here have ever played aussie rules or have just read a book on it
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Sydney Swans
B: Dane Rampe , Ted Richards , Nick Smith
HB: Jeremy Laidler , Heath Grundy , Callum Mills
C: Jarrad McVeigh , Josh P. Kennedy , Harry Cunningham
HF: Isaac Heeney , Lance Franklin , Kieren Jack
F: Luke Parker , Kurt Tippett , Tom Papley
Foll: Callum Sinclair , Tom Mitchell , Dan Hannebery
I/C: George Hewett , Zak Jones , Jake Lloyd , Dean Towers
Emg: Brandon Jack , Tyrone Leonardis , Toby Nankervis
In: Ted Richards , Dean Towers
Out: Ben McGlynn (Leg), Daniel Robinson (Shoulder)
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/teams
So who plays on Tippett? Batchelor or Chaplin?
Another master stroke by Dimma.
I'm not much of a fan of Astbury but the one roll I think he can play is that on the resting ruckman in the forwardline.
The other 2 cannot.
Well just remeber how tall Batchelor plays... ::) ::) :whistle :whistle
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Sydney Swans
B: Dane Rampe , Ted Richards , Nick Smith
HB: Jeremy Laidler , Heath Grundy , Callum Mills
C: Jarrad McVeigh , Josh P. Kennedy , Harry Cunningham
HF: Isaac Heeney , Lance Franklin , Kieren Jack
F: Luke Parker , Kurt Tippett , Tom Papley
Foll: Callum Sinclair , Tom Mitchell , Dan Hannebery
I/C: George Hewett , Zak Jones , Jake Lloyd , Dean Towers
Emg: Brandon Jack , Tyrone Leonardis , Toby Nankervis
In: Ted Richards , Dean Towers
Out: Ben McGlynn (Leg), Daniel Robinson (Shoulder)
http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/teams
So who plays on Tippett? Batchelor or Chaplin?
Another master stroke by Dimma.
I'm not much of a fan of Astbury but the one roll I think he can play is that on the resting ruckman in the forwardline.
The other 2 cannot.
I agree that Astbury's strength is playing on tall forwards or resting ruckman. Batchelor is not suited to playing such a role. Chaplin likewise. Play players in positions they excel in.
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Houli unavailable to face Swans
richmondfc.com.au
May 13, 2016 1:06 PM
Bachar Houli has been ruled out of this Saturday night's match
Running defender, Bachar Houli injured his right wrist at training on Thursday morning and is unavailable to play in Richmond’s Saturday night match against Sydney.
Houli will see a specialist to determine the extent of the injury, and the best course of action for recovery.
At this stage, a timeframe on his availability to return to playing is to be determined.
Taylor Hunt will come into the team for Saturday night’s match.
Dan Butler joins Jason Castagna and Andrew Moore as Richmond's emergencies for the match against Sydney.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-13/houli-unavailable-to-face-swans
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I know people will disagree but happy to see Houli out(although not because of injury)
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Limp wristitis? :shh
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i wonder how he injured his wrist????????????? i can guess though!
what a fantastic replacement dimma you tosser
i guarantee you he loves all these injuries...gives the prick an easy excuse for another flogging....
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stuff him
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Hunt .... :banghead :help
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Half-Step just can't stay away from the same dried up old well....finally we get a chance to replace Houli the turnover merchant.....so he decides to go with an even worse turnover merchant............ guess Sydney could really do with the extra 5 goals....
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Houli been running around in circles anyway. McIntosh no better. Our playing list is ravaged, so bottom out lads. The season is well & truly done. Give anyone on the list a run
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You have to wonder exactly who these players are that the club identified the other week as being past their use by date and not able to take us further .....because we seem to keep selecting the blokes that most people would assume they were referring to...
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Hunt lol.
It's like giving Sydney an extra man.
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depends on if you have the heart of a turkey or the heart of an eagle to start with
So if the forwards in the Vfl side had bigger hearts
The would go to that part of the ground more often?
In your world maybe, in my they would get to the right spots more often and I wouldnt be reading about their lack of intensity and willingness to work to the contest like I have from both spectators and coaches.
There are some things that are non negotiable, regardless of how much talent a person may have. You may think that being born with more talent than others gives the priveledge of not having to have the right work ethic , but I dont. I only want players who work their arses to get reach their full potential, The more talented the better, but I dont give them leeway just because they lucked out in the ability lottery.
They dont have to be tearing it up at VFL, but they do have to show something, be working to the coaches instructions and not being showed up by those that are already proven hacks.
From all reports there is no kids close to constantly performing at a level where they could feel hard done by not getting an AFL game, cept perhaps Lennon, and that is a great concern.
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circus fc
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Houli unavailable to face Swans
richmondfc.com.au
May 13, 2016 1:06 PM
Bachar Houli has been ruled out of this Saturday night's match
Running defender, Bachar Houli injured his right wrist at training on Thursday morning and is unavailable to play in Richmond’s Saturday night match against Sydney.
Houli will see a specialist to determine the extent of the injury, and the best course of action for recovery.
At this stage, a timeframe on his availability to return to playing is to be determined.
Taylor Hunt will come into the team for Saturday night’s match.
Dan Butler joins Jason Castagna and Andrew Moore as Richmond's emergencies for the match against Sydney.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-13/houli-unavailable-to-face-swans
And Everyone said.....
https://youtu.be/yyNnzSnrHkM
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I nearly spewed when there was talk of Dimsim being a genius but now sliding Hunt back into the fold has me converted.
Tanking 101.
:clapping
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I nearly spewed when there was talk of Dimsim being a genius but now sliding Hunt back into the fold has me converted.
Tanking 101.
:clapping
Dimmer's not able to implement any plans that uktimately succeed.
We're not tanking, he's just a very silly, egotistical boy.
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Houli unavailable to face Swans
richmondfc.com.au
May 13, 2016 1:06 PM
Bachar Houli has been ruled out of this Saturday night's match
Running defender, Bachar Houli injured his right wrist at training on Thursday morning and is unavailable to play in Richmond’s Saturday night match against Sydney.
Houli will see a specialist to determine the extent of the injury, and the best course of action for recovery.
At this stage, a timeframe on his availability to return to playing is to be determined.
Taylor Hunt will come into the team for Saturday night’s match.
Dan Butler joins Jason Castagna and Andrew Moore as Richmond's emergencies for the match against Sydney.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-05-13/houli-unavailable-to-face-swans
:clapping :cheers :lol
I don't even care that Hunt comes in.
Houli is insipid. Not an aggressive bone in his body which makes it very hard to play at the highest level with much effect.
In fact I actually think he is worse than, Chaplin, Grigg and BEllis. And that's saying something.
I just hope it's a serious injury that keeps him out for a long time.
He is a massive part of the reason I haven't enjoyed watching us this year and I hate him for that.
I can handle losing if they play with some sort of passion. And he is passionless.
I have said from day one of this season that both BEllis an Houli couldn't play in the same team let alone the same backline as both are spineless and don't like body contact. And as a backman that's not a great start. Both are too busy trying to avoid contact and while getting easy kicks.
May even make the effort and go on Saturday night now.
Apologies for the rant but it's been a while coming.
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Lmfao :lol
In hunt out Houli.
Deckchairs on Dimmas Titanic O Turds
The bloke is a shitman
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lol thats not shuffling deck chairs, its throwing them overboard.
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Watch the big Griff take three votes. :gotigers
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I just saw that thunt was in and that was enough for me not to bother tomorrow night.
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I understand the angst towards Houli but he didn't actually sign on to play in our backline, thats just another example of the genius that is Hardwick!
:shh
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I understand the angst towards Houli but he didn't actually sign on to play in our backline, thats just another example of the genius that is Hardwick!
:shh
What!
So that excuses his softness??
The guy is a cheat, pure and simple.
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depends on if you have the heart of a turkey or the heart of an eagle to start with
So if the forwards in the Vfl side had bigger hearts
The would go to that part of the ground more often?
In your world maybe, in my they would get to the right spots more often and I wouldnt be reading about their lack of intensity and willingness to work to the contest like I have from both spectators and coaches.
There are some things that are non negotiable, regardless of how much talent a person may have. You may think that being born with more talent than others gives the priveledge of not having to have the right work ethic , but I dont. I only want players who work their arses to get reach their full potential, The more talented the better, but I dont give them leeway just because they lucked out in the ability lottery.
They dont have to be tearing it up at VFL, but they do have to show something, be working to the coaches instructions and not being showed up by those that are already proven hacks.
From all reports there is no kids close to constantly performing at a level where they could feel hard done by not getting an AFL game, cept perhaps Lennon, and that is a great concern.
This is spot on. It's difficult because there's blokes who should be dropped but there really isn't anyone to come in.
McBean and Lennon are the obvious two that stand out as having an AFL skillset and potentially looking better not being surrounded by scrubs. Based off what I saw last week Lennon is doing the right things and should be played in the 1's for a significant chunk of games. McBean's work ethic and attitude on the other hand seemed very questionable.
You could maybe give Broad and Butler a go but the rest are either not up to it (Maric, Townsend, A Moore, Hunt, Astbury, Marcon) or nowhere near ready (Markov, Chol, Soldo, C Moore)
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lol thats not shuffling deck chairs, its throwing them overboard.
At people who are drowning at sea
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Ch7 News just reported that Josh Kennedy is out for the Swans
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Meanwhile cantstandya and butler emergencies
Shame hardwick shame
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Hes a stuffwit
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I'm so angry
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Who is gonna keep him accountable?
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Why isn't Lennon getting a game?
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Ch7 News just reported that Josh Kennedy is out for the Swans
Resting guys against us.
Just like Hawthorn last week with Mitchell.
We are flying!
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Why isn't Lennon getting a game?
Report by McRae stated he received yet another concussion. Two in 3 weeks.
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Why isn't Lennon getting a game?
Report by McRae stated he received yet another concussion. Two in 3 weeks.
True, but wouldnt have been picked anyway
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I understand the angst towards Houli but he didn't actually sign on to play in our backline, thats just another example of the genius that is Hardwick!
:shh
What!
So that excuses his softness??
The guy is a cheat, pure and simple.
:lol
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Decision to bring in Hunt is a backward step and is yet another example of Hardwick's failure to think creatively. With Houli being out it will be interesting to see if this will have an effect on the turnovers in the backline.
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Decision to bring in Hunt is a backward step and is yet another example of Hardwick's failure to think creatively. With Houli being out it will be interesting to see if this will have an effect on the turnovers in the backline.
There probably won't be a reduction with Hunt back in, but it's a good point
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Watch the big Griff take three votes. :gotigers
Not bad.