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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: taztiger4 on May 19, 2016, 07:45:24 PM

Title: Prestia
Post by: taztiger4 on May 19, 2016, 07:45:24 PM
SEN reporting Prestia want a trade to either Carlton or us
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: wayne on May 19, 2016, 08:04:19 PM
Get it done Blair.... :whistle
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 19, 2016, 08:06:28 PM
wont happen
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: one-eyed on May 19, 2016, 08:07:48 PM
MattGranlandSEN & @BrettAndersonIF chat draft plus Suns, Lions, Giants, Dons, Tigers, Pies trade talk.

Podcast: https://audioboom.com/boos/4585714-on-the-clock-podcast-episode-3

Brett Anderson twitter: There are a few different Tiger chats throughout re: Prestia, Hurley etc




Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Heart of Darkness on May 19, 2016, 08:17:06 PM
Burns the footy a lot
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 19, 2016, 08:25:37 PM
wont happen

Are you Blair?
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Jackstar 1960 on May 19, 2016, 08:30:59 PM
Get it done Blair.... :whistle

Blair can't do up its shoe laces let alone do a trade
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on May 19, 2016, 08:43:35 PM
wont happen

Are you Blair?

Will be wearing Navy blue...
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: cub on May 19, 2016, 08:53:37 PM
Oh well, Carlton it is  :banghead
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Diocletian on May 19, 2016, 09:16:34 PM
wont happen

Are you Blair?

Will be wearing Navy blue...


KB says we're in the box seat..... :shh
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Go Richo 12 on May 19, 2016, 09:20:30 PM
Eddie will form another netball club just to bribe the GC list manager with a job.
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on May 19, 2016, 09:24:23 PM
And we'll probably offer unders.
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Diocletian on May 19, 2016, 09:35:59 PM
Eddie will form another netball club just to bribe the GC list manager with a job.

Prestia's missus probably plays Netball....or at least has ambitions to do the commentary...
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 19, 2016, 09:54:12 PM
Get it done Blair.... :whistle

Blair stays out of it me might stand a chance  :rollin
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: tony_montana on May 19, 2016, 10:02:06 PM
Burns the footy a lot

yep underwhelmed, think we should aim higher - but first #gethurleywrappedup
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: camboon on May 19, 2016, 10:39:03 PM
Blair has done the money ball analytical thing and worked out the are only worth half as much as Carlton will pay but there are a few stars who can't get a game in the seniors at clubs lower on the ladder the Richmond that we can get for our second round pick who will be stars if we give them long term contracts on big bucks. Other clubs would pick them in the pre season but not us.
I hope we learn from the past as the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expect a different result!
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Stalin on May 19, 2016, 10:39:29 PM
Burns the footy a lot

Another midget
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: big tone on May 19, 2016, 11:00:19 PM
Get it done Blair.... :whistle

Blair stays out of it me might stand a chance  :rollin
Yer Blair is probably to busy doing everybody's new contracts anyway, because that's what he does.  :whistle

Better we leave it to all the other "capable" people we have at the club.  :lol

Maybe we get FJ to do both rolls as everything he seems to touch turns to gold.  :wallywink
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 19, 2016, 11:04:03 PM
Burns the footy a lot
Indeed,had a pretty ordinary year so far,Blues can have him.
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Diocletian on May 19, 2016, 11:09:57 PM
Gold Coast is a demoralised rabble and he clearly doesn't want to be there but make no mistake, the kid can seriously play......maybe not as good as No Knees O'Meara but a far better bet at this stage....
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Diocletian on May 19, 2016, 11:32:22 PM
Eddie will form another netball club just to bribe the GC list manager with a job.

Prestia's missus probably plays Netball....or at least has ambitions to do the commentary...


...and what do you know....

http://www.theage.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/nine-and-telstra-sign-netball-australia-broadcast-deal-20160518-goyknu.html

 :shh
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2016, 07:02:21 AM
Get it done Blair.... :whistle

Blair stays out of it me might stand a chance  :rollin
Yer Blair is probably to busy doing everybody's new contracts anyway, because that's what he does.  :whistle

Better we leave it to all the other "capable" people we have at the club.  :lol

Maybe we get FJ to do both rolls as everything he seems to touch turns to gold.  :wallywink

 :lol touché

But you are certainly selective with your comments

I never said he does everybody's contracts he does a number of them, the lesser lights those infamous 2nd tier players in particular

But he certainly recommended 3 years to Hampson, extension to your favourite player Houli, extension to Grigg, 2 years for Taylor Hunt.... I could go on... you should ask Blair he'll tell you  ;D

Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 20, 2016, 07:51:14 AM
Prestia. Pass.

Get Hurley u softies

Reality is will get neither but for another female to take the field
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: big tone on May 20, 2016, 08:45:38 AM
Get it done Blair.... :whistle

Blair stays out of it me might stand a chance  :rollin
Yer Blair is probably to busy doing everybody's new contracts anyway, because that's what he does.  :whistle

Better we leave it to all the other "capable" people we have at the club.  :lol

Maybe we get FJ to do both rolls as everything he seems to touch turns to gold.  :wallywink

 :lol touché

But you are certainly selective with your comments

I never said he does everybody's contracts he does a number of them, the lesser lights those infamous 2nd tier players in particular

But he certainly recommended 3 years to Hampson, extension to your favourite player Houli, extension to Grigg, 2 years for Taylor Hunt.... I could go on... you should ask Blair he'll tell you  ;D
Not sure about all of that but I'll be sure ask ask Dan the Man when I see him next.  :shh
I don't have to ask BH if he "green lit" Elton's extension because I already know the answer to that.  ::)
All will be forgiven for those two if they can snag Hurley.... And JAEGER  :bow
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2016, 09:22:49 AM

Not sure about all of that but I'll be sure ask ask Dan the Man when I see him next.  :shh
I don't have to ask BH if he "green lit" Elton's extension because I already know the answer to that.  ::)
All will be forgiven for those two if they can snag Hurley.... And JAEGER  :bow

You really do struggle with believong what i am saying, not sure why? Just telling what I have been told

But

Todd Elton  ;D well i am glad Blair wasnt involved he would have given him 5 years  :rollin

At least thats one I suppose  :lol

Pity there aren't alot more  :thumbsup

Will  :bow if they get Hurley... Tigers are sniffing.

Jaegar O'meara is an interesting one, will his value go up further once he gets back on the park in the next 5- 6 weeks?

Would love him but real concerns about that knee of his



Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Yeahright on May 20, 2016, 11:02:21 AM
What about Swallow? Nab all of em'
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on May 20, 2016, 11:10:27 AM

Jaegar O'meara is an interesting one, will his value go up further onc3 he gets back on the park in the next 5- 6 weeks?

Would love hom but real cpncerns about that knee of his


What Ive read and understand of his knee condition is very disheartening. He might be playing possum so he can book his ticket [edit] to melbourne, but I know Brandon Roy who played for the Portland Trail Blazers had the same condition and had to retire at 27. He was a franchise player.
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Jonesracing82 on May 20, 2016, 11:42:05 AM

Not sure about all of that but I'll be sure ask ask Dan the Man when I see him next.  :shh
I don't have to ask BH if he "green lit" Elton's extension because I already know the answer to that.  ::)
All will be forgiven for those two if they can snag Hurley.... And JAEGER  :bow

You really do struggle with believong what i am saying, not sure why? Just telling what I have been told

But

Todd Elton  ;D well i am glad Blair wasnt involved he would have given him 5 years  :rollin

At least thats one I suppose  :lol

Pity there arent alot more  :thumbsup

Will  :bow if they get Hurley... Tigers are sniffing.

Jaegar O'meara is an interesting one, will his value go up further onc3 he gets back on the park in the next 5- 6 weeks?

Would love hom but real cpncerns about that knee of his
it's the same injury C.Knights had, i hope we have learned our lesson on that one, i'll be ropable if we get JOM!!!!!! he may not even play again......
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: taztiger4 on May 20, 2016, 12:30:35 PM

Jaegar O'meara is an interesting one, will his value go up further onc3 he gets back on the park in the next 5- 6 weeks?

Would love hom but real cpncerns about that knee of his


What Ive read and understand of his knee condition is very disheartening. He might be playing possum so he can book his ticket back to melbourne, but I know Brandon Roy who played for the Portland Trail Blazers had the same condition and had to retire at 27. He was a franchise player.
Ticket back to Melbourne??? He is from Dongara, 70 kms south of Geraldton, 400kms north of Perth
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 20, 2016, 01:20:09 PM

Jaegar O'meara is an interesting one, will his value go up further onc3 he gets back on the park in the next 5- 6 weeks?

Would love hom but real cpncerns about that knee of his


What Ive read and understand of his knee condition is very disheartening. He might be playing possum so he can book his ticket back to melbourne, but I know Brandon Roy who played for the Portland Trail Blazers had the same condition and had to retire at 27. He was a franchise player.
Ticket back to Melbourne??? He is from Dongara, 70 kms south of Geraldton, 400kms north of Perth

Been well reported by the media that he has bought a number of investment properties in Melb in the last 12 months
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Yeahright on May 20, 2016, 02:07:19 PM
Gold Coast's Dion Prestia has told his manager he only wants to speak to Richmond and Carlton.
Source: SEN
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Stalin on May 20, 2016, 02:43:00 PM
What about Swallow? Nab all of em'

Swallow > Prestia
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Diocletian on May 20, 2016, 02:52:59 PM
Swallow's almost as big a risk as JOM....
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Diocletian on May 20, 2016, 03:02:37 PM
Prestia. Pass.

Get Hurley u softies

Reality is will get neither but for another female to take the field

Getting Hurley shouldn't stop us getting Prestia..... :shh
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Stalin on May 20, 2016, 03:18:28 PM
Swallow's almost as big a risk as JOM....

 :huh
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Diocletian on May 20, 2016, 03:27:27 PM
Injury prone. GC doctors told him he may never play again...went and saw North's doctors for a second opinion...if he leaves, he'll join his brother there anyway....
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Stalin on May 20, 2016, 03:35:41 PM
Sigh
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: tony_montana on May 20, 2016, 03:55:36 PM
ok so seems we're going hard at Prestia - what are people prepared to give up for him?

Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Dougeytherichmondfan on May 20, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
Our 2nd rounder from this year, hopefully they forget they already have it...  ;)
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: lamington on May 20, 2016, 06:09:30 PM
I believe we can get Hurley and Prestia. Prestia has good X-factor. I'm tired of having an excess of blue collar types which can't break the lines or do anything creative with the ball. If we leave him forward I believe he can really be something
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: WA Tiger on May 21, 2016, 11:41:35 AM
ok so seems we're going hard at Prestia - what are people prepared to give up for him?

Would be happy to see the following players thrown up plus a second rounder on traded from another club for both Pres and Hurley:

B Ellis
Batchelor
Morris
Houli
Grigg
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 21, 2016, 12:29:17 PM
ok so seems we're going hard at Prestia - what are people prepared to give up for him?

Whats he worth?



Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 21, 2016, 12:29:41 PM
ok so seems we're going hard at Prestia - what are people prepared to give up for him?

Would be happy to see the following players thrown up plus a second rounder on traded from another club for both Pres and Hurley:

B Ellis
Batchelor
Morris
Houli
Grigg
If the money we supposedly have offered Hurley is even remotely close then we should be getting him as a DFA.
He's only worth that kind of coin if he's coming for free, if we had to trade for him then our offer would have to be considerably lower.

Of the players above whether people rate him or not B Ellis is the only player there that can return a 1st round pick and if we could get one you would have to consider it.

ok so seems we're going hard at Prestia - what are people prepared to give up for him?
Whats he worth?
Prestia pre 2016 probably worth mid 1st round I would have thought, on his form of late I would say its dropped to late 1st/ very early 2nd round pick.
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Andyy on May 21, 2016, 04:24:14 PM
Prestia is a gun. Stocky build and great tackler.

Definite yes from me.
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Penelope on May 21, 2016, 04:39:59 PM
ok so seems we're going hard at Prestia - what are people prepared to give up for him?

Would be happy to see the following players thrown up plus a second rounder on traded from another club for both Pres and Hurley:

B Ellis
Batchelor
Morris
Houli
Grigg
If the money we supposedly have offered Hurley is even remotely close then we should be getting him as a DFA.
He's only worth that kind of coin if he's coming for free, if we had to trade for him then our offer would have to be considerably lower.

Of the players above whether people rate him or not B Ellis is the only player there that can return a 1st round pick and if we could get one you would have to consider it.

ok so seems we're going hard at Prestia - what are people prepared to give up for him?
Whats he worth?
Prestia pre 2016 probably worth mid 1st round I would have thought, on his form of late I would say its dropped to late 1st/ very early 2nd round pick.
why should what you have to give up to get him, affect what you pay a player?

One you give up money, the other you give up players/picks.

The two things are irrelevant to each other?
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 21, 2016, 04:43:03 PM
ok so seems we're going hard at Prestia - what are people prepared to give up for him?

Would be happy to see the following players thrown up plus a second rounder on traded from another club for both Pres and Hurley:

B Ellis
Batchelor
Morris
Houli
Grigg
If the money we supposedly have offered Hurley is even remotely close then we should be getting him as a DFA.
He's only worth that kind of coin if he's coming for free, if we had to trade for him then our offer would have to be considerably lower.

Of the players above whether people rate him or not B Ellis is the only player there that can return a 1st round pick and if we could get one you would have to consider it.

ok so seems we're going hard at Prestia - what are people prepared to give up for him?
Whats he worth?
Prestia pre 2016 probably worth mid 1st round I would have thought, on his form of late I would say its dropped to late 1st/ very early 2nd round pick.
why should what you have to give up to get him, affect what you pay a player?

One you give up money, the other you give up players/picks.

The two things are irrelevant to each other?

What? Who said anything about money?
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Penelope on May 21, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
Quote
If the money we supposedly have offered Hurley is even remotely close then we should be getting him as a DFA.
He's only worth that kind of coin if he's coming for free, if we had to trade for him then our offer would have to be considerably lower.
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: 🏅Dooks on May 21, 2016, 04:48:08 PM
Quote
If the money we supposedly have offered Hurley is even remotely close then we should be getting him as a DFA.
He's only worth that kind of coin if he's coming for free, if we had to trade for him then our offer would have to be considerably lower.

I see where your flying. I think there are 2 separate conversations going on here
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Penelope on May 21, 2016, 04:50:47 PM
three, now
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 21, 2016, 05:57:49 PM
What? Who said anything about money?
Was replying to WAT's comments of packaging a player and 2nd rounder for the meatball and Hurley.
No way in the world we would offer that kind of coin for Hurley unless he is willing to walk away from the druggo's as a DFA.
Hurley should cost nothing but salary cap space .
why should what you have to give up to get him, affect what you pay a player?
One you give up money, the other you give up players/picks.
The two things are irrelevant to each other?
The Hurley scenario involves a player that can walk to what ever club he wants with out having to be traded,I thought that was obvious.
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Penelope on May 21, 2016, 06:21:56 PM
how does that have any bearing on what salary you play the player?

I dont think it is so obvious as to why you pay him less if you had to trade for him? how does that change the players worth?
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Yeahright on May 21, 2016, 06:43:09 PM
how does that have any bearing on what salary you play the player?

I dont think it is so obvious as to why you pay him less if you had to trade for him? how does that change the players worth?

Has to do with free agency bidding wars. For a loose example, Vickery to us is worth what, 400k? So if Team X wanted to trade for him they'd give us pick 20 and pay him his worth ~400k. If they wanted him as a free agent however, they would have to offer him over that amount. If they wanted him for 400k we'd just match the offer. If they offered him 600k then we wouldn't bother matching it and he'd walk to them but on an inflated contract.

Prices are all hypothetical of course and knowing us, we'd match anything for that spud
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Penelope on May 21, 2016, 06:47:06 PM
lol,
when you put it way it becomes apparent that you will nearly always be paying overs for any half decent RFA
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Yeahright on May 21, 2016, 07:14:46 PM
lol,
when you put it way it becomes apparent that you will nearly always be paying overs for any half decent RFA

Yeah, pretty much the point the other bloke made. In fact, I thought it was common knowledge?
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Penelope on May 21, 2016, 07:17:18 PM
barely given it a thought
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Yeahright on May 21, 2016, 07:17:49 PM
You'll fit right in here then
Title: Re: Prestia
Post by: Penelope on May 21, 2016, 07:18:50 PM
 :lol