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Hardwick backs kids to turn Tigers around
Sam Landsberger
Herald Sun
July 8, 2016
DAMIEN Hardwick says Richmond has struck gold with its past two draft hauls and the pain of a failed 2016 season will be short-lived.
Hardwick will use the last eight weeks as a “springboard” into 2017 and declared on Thursday the Tigers would swiftly bounce up the ladder.
Scrutiny has intensified that Richmond is on the cusp of a lengthy rebuild after failing to win a final in 2013-15 and bombing out this season.
About half the Tigers’ playing list and most of Hardwick’s assistant coaches are coming out of contract, but Hardwick laughed off suggestions the club would trade playmaker Brett Deledio.
He said the Tigers would become a force if they surround their current batch of superstars with more players “above the line”.
And Hardwick reaffirmed his claims the 2016 list is the best he’s had in seven years, pointing to the depth in the VFL.
“The big thing for us is people only see the top of the iceberg, they only see the 22 players we put out there on a weekly basis,” Hardwick said.
“They don’t see what’s under the water and we’re really excited about the prospect of some of these young kids coming through.”
Asked which kids could light up the dreary run home, Hardwick named Nathan Drummond, Liam McBean, Ben Lennon, Jason Castagna and Oleg Markov.
Hardwick praised Daniel Rioli’s speed, agility and inside work but said he wanted the first-round pick to improve his uncontested game.
Rioli laid 13 tackles in the VFL last week while the Tigers rank last for tackles this season and won the ‘soft’ stats against Port Adelaide last week.
“I think it’ll (bouncing back) be quick,” Hardwick said.
“We’ve got some incredible talent — Deledio, (Trent) Cotchin, (Dustin) Martin, (Alex) Rance, (Jack) Riewoldt.
“We’re after more players (who can play) what we call ‘above the line’.
“Guys like Nick Vlastuin, Brandon Ellis have shown that consistently they can play that and we’re after more players to jump up.
Chis Yarran trains at Punt Rd with Corey Ellis.
“Our last two drafts we’ve been really pleased with.
“I’ve spoken about how this is the best list, people only see the 22 we put out there as the top of the iceberg, what I’m excited about is underneath.”
The Tigers will have just one top-40 pick in this year’s draft and have been strongly linked to Gold Coast ball magnet Dion Prestia.
Hardwick said the focus on the future would not translate to scoreboard pain this year.
“They (the kids) have still got to play some football to get picked at AFL level,” Hardwick said.
“We know our best football is capable. We’ve got eight games to try and regain some respect from the competition and show the footy world if we do play our best what we’re capable of doing.”
WHAT’S GOT DIMMA DANCING?
Damien Hardwick says he is excited by the past two draft hauls
2014 DRAFT
No. 12 Corey Ellis (17 games)
No. 33 Connor Menadue (16 games)
No. 52 Nathan Drummond (1 game)
No. 67 Daniel Butler (0 games)
No. 77 Reece McKenzie (retired)
Rookie Jayden Short (8 games)
Rookie Jason Castagna (2 games)
Rookie Kane Lambert (25 games)
2015 DRAFT
No. 15 Daniel Rioli (10 games)
No. 50 Oleg Markov (0 games)
No. 67 Nathan Broad (2 games)
Rookie Callum Moore (0 games)
Rookie Mabior Chol (0 games)
Rookie Adam Marcon (0 games)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/damien-hardwick-backs-kids-on-richmonds-list-to-turn-fortunes-around-quickly/news-story/a8b10231a9a641f658da9687d3f9b9c7
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Bring on the future, says bullish Hardwick
AFL.com.au
July 8, 2016
RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick thinks the Tigers can quickly bounce back into future finals contention despite the disappointment of 2016.
He scoffed at suggestions star midfielder Brett Deledio should be traded and said the club was looking for more players to reach the standards Deledio, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt and Alex Rance consistently reach.
"We've got some incredible talent," Hardwick said on Thursday.
"We're after more players [who can] play, what we call, above the line, playing not just to a capable standard … we're after more players who can jump up."
Hardwick said he was pleased with the players who had joined Richmond through the last two drafts, with Corey Ellis, Connor Menadue and Daniel Rioli all performing well at senior level.
He defended his claim that Richmond's list was the best he had seen in his time at Richmond, saying the upside of the youngsters enthused him.
"People only see the 22 we put other there, the top of the iceberg. What I am excited about is what is underneath. That is really exciting for us and we are going to see some of those boys play," Hardwick said.
He said the team was looking to springboard into 2017 in the remaining eight weeks now that finals were out of the picture.
Hardwick said Nathan Drummond, Ben Lennon, Jason Castagna and Liam McBean were all likely to get opportunities in the senior line-up in the final part of the season if their form in the VFL deserved it.
Chris Yarran makes an appearance at Richmond training on Thursday. Picture: AFL Media
In the immediate term Richmond will bring back ruckman Shaun Hampson after he missed a week with a knee injury.
He conceded veteran Ivan Maric had battled in his first game back after a long stint in the VFL.
Rioli has put his name forward after making 13 tackles in the VFL on Sunday.
"He looked a class above on the weekend, his speed, agility and his tackling," Hardwick said.
He said the youngster was working on winning more uncontested ball to add more polish to his game because his endeavour and courage were second to none.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-07/bring-on-the-stuff
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Lmfao :lol
Ahhhhhhh dear.....just a joke the spin this guy comes up with to suit the situation
Not a man to be trusted.
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bla bla bla turn it around bla bla bla, why not sooner then dimma.
Footscray will kill us because we play weak football
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Richmond, the home of bruise free football...... :banghead
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That sounds great, until you look at it closely.
what I would like to know is why we have no real intensity, player shepherding, player follow up, player movement for options, why we constantly go to the sides and not up the middle, why we can't put teams away when they are on a plate, why our tackle rate is so low, why we struggle constantly against sides like North and Carlton, why do we move the ball like treacle flowing uphill, why do our players get rag dolled constantly, why they are rewarded for games when they don't chase or do 'the team thing', why are we so slow, why do we let our captain get tagged out of the game and offer no support,
doesn't matter what players we have with our current game plan.
Improvement requires change.
Team list, team selection, team ethos, coaching, all need to be addressed.
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3 years too late u selfish über flog damien
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such vitriol! simple fact is my whiney commie forum comrade, you just cannot make jam from poo
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:lol dimma
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such vitriol! simple fact is my whiney commie forum comrade, you just cannot make jam from poo
Clearly you've not tried Damien's creamed topped poo cake
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3 years too late u selfish über flog damien
:thumbsup
matt thomas
chris knights
grigg extension
chappy
hampson
etc etc. complete garbage and part of the reason we are where we are. spots kids could have easily filled or top end talent yet we wasted a million dollars on duds like hampson, grigg and the cripple knights.
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Always add substance a well placed etc etc
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“The big thing for us is people only see the top of the iceberg, they only see the 22 players we put out there on a weekly basis,” Hardwick said.
What a dumb, narcissistic bastard.
Get the out of Punt rd
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Lmfao :lol
Ahhhhhhh dear.....just a joke the spin this guy comes up with to suit the situation
Not a man to be trusted.
The people who rented his house found that out.
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Makes Wallace look like an amateur when it comes to spin,the sooner he's gone the better.
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, we have depth, it's just that we don't really have depth, so now everybody is going to see the guys I threaten to play all year but never need to......because it's the best list in my time at the club.
U F L !!!
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Ulverstone Football League?
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As deluded as Danny Frawley and as sneaky as Wallace.
What a combination.
To,dimmer's credit, he's his own narcissist.
FL.
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, we have depth, it's just that we don't really have depth, so now everybody is going to see the guys I threaten to play all year but never need to......because it's the best list in my time at the club.
U F L !!!
10 Coburg 12 5 7 0 101.51 20
11 Werribee 10 4 6 0 89.17 16
12 Northern Blues 11 4 7 0 74.50 16
13 Richmond 11 3 8 0 91.02 12
14 Frankston 11 2 9 0 62.63 8
15 North Ballarat 11 2 9 0 56.28 8
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oh look...
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That sounds great, until you look at it closely.
what I would like to know is why we have no real intensity, player shepherding, player follow up, player movement for options, why we constantly go to the sides and not up the middle, why we can't put teams away when they are on a plate, why our tackle rate is so low, why we struggle constantly against sides like North and Carlton, why do we move the ball like treacle flowing uphill, why do our players get rag dolled constantly, why they are rewarded for games when they don't chase or do 'the team thing', why are we so slow, why do we let our captain get tagged out of the game and offer no support,
doesn't matter what players we have with our current game plan.
Improvement requires change.
Team list, team selection, team ethos, coaching, all need to be addressed.
Mostly fair enough, but which teams go up the middle when they don't have a fast rebound or are not behind and need to take a risk?
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Hardwick backs kids to turn Tigers around
Sam Landsberger
Herald Sun
July 8, 2016
DAMIEN Hardwick says Richmond has struck gold with its past two draft hauls and the pain of a failed 2016 season will be short-lived.
Hardwick praised Daniel Rioli’s speed, agility and inside work but said he wanted the first-round pick to improve his uncontested game.
Rioli laid 13 tackles in the VFL last week while the Tigers rank last for tackles this season and won the ‘soft’ stats against Port Adelaide last week.
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And so it begins wont be long and we have a B Ellis clone.
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As others have alluded to.
How ironic things are going to be turned around by kids he has not thought good enough to play in front of the myriad of duds he regularly plays
Can understand supporters talking every kid on the list up but the coach fmd.
How many of those 14 kids will even make it how many are A gradersjeezus h Geez 6 of the 14 i already have grave concerns about.
I wonder if DH appropriate initials has even looked at what other clubs have recruited in recent years and how our kids stack up against them.
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C'mon Claw, this is just a blip in the steam train that is the RFC. We have the best coach in the league with the greatest game plan ever devised, the best recruiting that money can buy, let's not forget that these new recruits are getting the best in development from "Guru Chocco" and remember that we have DanTheMan & BJ Blair getting us the big fish they've been promising
We will win the premiership next year we are that good :rollin
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Mystery War Chest. Does it actually exist?
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Mystery War Chest. Does it actually exist?
Yes it does exist
It kept " inside our four walls "
Lol :lol :lol :rollin
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Coach of the team last in tackles wants kid who laid most tackles in either grade last week to work on his outside game more.....says it all....
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Hardwick backs kids to turn Tigers around
Sam Landsberger
Herald Sun
July 8, 2016
DAMIEN Hardwick says Richmond has struck gold with its past two draft hauls and the pain of a failed 2016 season will be short-lived.
Hardwick praised Daniel Rioli’s speed, agility and inside work but said he wanted the first-round pick to improve his uncontested game.
Rioli laid 13 tackles in the VFL last week while the Tigers rank last for tackles this season and won the ‘soft’ stats against Port Adelaide last week.
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And so it begins wont be long and we have a B Ellis clone.
Coach of the team last in tackles wants kid who laid most tackles in either grade last week to work on his outside game more.....says it all....
Groundog day, recall a similar msg when dusty was tearing it up inside in his first 2 seasons, 3 years later our strongest player was an out and out outside receiver. What a coach :clapping
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do we want players that are good by foot getting most of their ball inside and having a large portion of their disposals under pressure?
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Rioli doesn't need to work on his outside game, he's quick and a natural....our tackling's a major issue and right now he's one of the few who's sticking them....
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working on your outside game doesnt mean laying less tackles, it means learning how to time and position yourself to to receive when your team mate has the ball. Its about what you do when we have possession, not the opposition.
Our spread when we have the ball is also a major problem, which is why we often end going in circles with ball, or having to consistently go down the line to a contest.
Whether rioli needs to do that or not, I dont know, i havent seen him enough, or seen him do anything more than cameos, but personally i don't have a problem with players being taught to have a more rounded game.
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do we want players that are good by foot getting most of their ball inside and having a large portion of their disposals under pressure?
Do we want our most dynamic inside player playing almost exclusively outside?
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working on your outside game doesnt mean laying less tackles, it means learning how to time and position yourself to to receive when your team mate has the ball. Its about what you do when we have possession, not the opposition.
Our spread when we have the ball is also a major problem, which is why we often end going in circles with ball, or having to consistently go down the line to a contest.
Whether rioli needs to do that or not, I dont know, i havent seen him enough, or seen him do anything more than cameos, but personally i don't have a problem with players being taught to have a more rounded game.
Correct, however, whoever is responsible for developing the outside game of players at punt road is not doing a great job bc it seems that outside and tackling seem to be mutually exclusive skill sets.
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It does seem that way, but if we look at Martin he does now have a well rounded game, and his tackling has improved, but probably is still not what youd expect from someone with his strength.
whether this could have been done without taking him too far to an outside game, as seemed to happen, who knows? Its not something I have had any real long term experience with, but I doubt a player will ever forget how to win inside ball.
Tackling accross the board could be better, but do we have any examples of someone who showed themselves to be a good tackler, in terms of numbers and technique, that has had this coached out of them?
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Yeah Shyte who knows 2nd year martin was getting a contested possession every 45 sec during intraclub games
And lord damien had a public cry he was not outside enough... F-moron
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I would certainly like to see Rioli get on the end of a few more handballs. Doesn't mean he has to tackle less. His pressure is awesome.