One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: yellowandback on October 18, 2016, 06:54:45 AM
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It's a pretty simple question, where are you placed with regard to the confidence or belief that you have in the club at the moment.
More importantly - why?
For me, it's shaken, not stirred......yet.
On the basis of:-
I've never seen this as the premiership combination - list, coaching staff, board, president. I've always felt the next generation would deliver that but that this group would deliver stability of results (money, ladder position, player development etc) that would get us close.
They haven't delivered any of the above this year ..... And been horrible to watch on and off field.
So while I'm prepared to give everyone at the club one more year, their ability to listen and adapt will be crucial.
So far, trade period and lack of transparency on the review have been a little more shaken....
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Your right
Definitely not the right ingredients to win a flag
New captain and coach would help
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Down
Down
Down
Down
To funky town
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Some clubs with less members, less resources, can make some tough decisions when required to shake up the complacency of mediocre mentality. The Bulldogs sacked a well regarded coach and made some tough calls in trade & draft. Bringing in a coach that actually is a forward thinker & innovator that was able to use the strengths of the list to develop a game style accordingly.
We had an opportunity to wait and see if our coach was able to improve our team but this board wasn't able to make the tough call but instead was influenced by Collingwoods decision to extend Buckleys contract. Instead We were told this was because he was able to deliver 3 finals appearances and he had the attributes to be a premiership coach.
Hardwick showed us his dud status when he lost our first final. Should've been sacked immediately after that post match press conference.
I've had no confidence in this regime since that loss.
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I'm the not sure guy. It's more likely that we'll be talking of Dimma's sacking this time next year but hey we may make finals and just a low grumbling will occur. I'm only 40% we make finals. Maybe less
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I'll say this.
If Damien Hardwick coaches Richmond a to a flag it would be the biggest disaster OER has ever faced.
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I'll say this.
If Damien Hardwick coaches Richmond a to a flag it would be the biggest disaster OER has ever faced.
I'm sure the masterminds on here will somehow take credit for turning it around.
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I'll say this.
If Damien Hardwick coaches Richmond a to a flag it would be the biggest disaster OER has ever faced.
Rubbish
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If it does happen it'll be more down to rance and martin being jets rather than Dimma mastermind string pulling
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Myself and at least 6-8 other posters have been saying all is not right with the club and personell since at least 3 years ago. And in particular after the North loss. The finals appearances were a very thin veneer over fundamental problems.
I was reported and banned for maintaining a position of being too negative.
If peoples current positions on the club were posted 12-18 months ago, at least 50% of site members would likely follow the same fate.
As for my views as of today, im trying to give the club a chance to prove itself as part of (supposedly) turning over a new leaf with personnel.
Ill next judge them at the end of the trade week. If its more of the same then wackety wack wack.
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I'll say this.
If Damien Hardwick coaches Richmond a to a flag it would be the biggest disaster OER has ever faced.
I'm sure the masterminds on here will somehow take credit for turning it around.
Says the guy who was the very last one off the Hardwick bus, merely months ago.
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I'm completely disillusioned.
I've never been as so indifferent to the club as I am now.
Blind Freddy can see Dimma is not the answer - why can't Peggy and Benny pull the trigger ?
The style of football played in 2016 made my eyes bleed. Even our victories were so unconvincing.
Once a generation players like Dusty and Rance are being wasted through an incompetent game plan.
I'm sure Cotchin has another gear to go to ....why has he stalled ?
Player development is pathetic . I'm certain Conca , B. Ellis , Lennon , Vlastuin and C. Ellis all have the tools to become decent AFL players but something is fundamentally at Richmond where players don't ever reach their potential.
If we recruit another delisted free agent ( probably from Port ) I will just about give up .
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I'll say this.
If Damien Hardwick coaches Richmond a to a flag it would be the biggest disaster OER has ever faced.
I'm sure the masterminds on here will somehow take credit for turning it around.
Says the guy who was the very last one off the Hardwick bus, merely months ago.
I started a thread entitled " time to eat some humble pie " after about round 5 or 6 where I admitted I was wrong .
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I'll say this.
If Damien Hardwick coaches Richmond a to a flag it would be the biggest disaster OER has ever faced.
I'm sure the masterminds on here will somehow take credit for turning it around.
Says the guy who was the very last one off the Hardwick bus, merely months ago.
I'm completely disillusioned.
I've never been as so indifferent to the club as I ... ) I will just about give up .
That's cause u just got off the bus bro
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I'll say this.
If Damien Hardwick coaches Richmond a to a flag it would be the biggest disaster OER has ever faced.
I'm sure the masterminds on here will somehow take credit for turning it around.
Says the guy who was the very last one off the Hardwick bus, merely months ago.
I'm completely disillusioned.
I've never been as so indifferent to the club as I ... ) I will just about give up .
That's cause u just got off the bus bro
Its true. Once your off and you see 2 to three seasons of the same crap it just becomes comical.
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Simple fact is we are run by people with little idea how to run a successful club. Until these critical people are replaced the best we can hope for is an EF thrashing
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A similar question was on the RFC Members Survey emailed last week.
While I answered "down", I added in the text box that many of the issues/problems we saw in 2016, were evident in previous years (2012-15) but not acted upon by the powers that be when they needed to. If these issues were isolated to 2016 then you would give the current admin and footy dept. 2017 to turn things around. However, their repeated failures to not only be proactive in addressing issues when they arise but not being able to spot these issues in the first place until it's too late, is why you can't have any confidence in them making the right decisions and fixing anything.
It's why I answered "0" (poor) to all questions in the RFC Members Survey relating to the Board, admin, coaching and recruiting.
I also answered "0" (poor) to how the Club communicated with members and supporters in 2016. Absolutely pathetic! I didn't hold back either explaining why in the text box ;).
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l delete the members surveys. seriously if they need to have a survey to ask supporters how to better the club they should be working at Safeway or Subway :snidegrin
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I could just about quote everyones posts here and add my own bit...
Ive never felt so dissapointed in all my time following the Tigers as I do now.
There are times where I jest :shh but now is not one.
In 2010 I had genuine belief that we would strip the beast apart and rebuild it, no guarantees that we would be holding a cup five years later but at least we would right all the wrongs of the last 30 years. Here I am now 7 seasons later and were only marginally better off than where we were in 2010. Sure we have Jack, Rance and Dusty but we continue to fail to recuit and develop players for our needs. The other players on our list would probably flourish at another club but stall at ours.
The most telling thing for me with Damien at the helm is this, even in our best circa 2013 we came to a roadblock and fell apart. " The Egg" Players clearly lack self belief, that is something that can be encouraged via a mentor/ coach like a Beveridge etc.
The list profile in my view are confidence based emotional players, they fire up and play well when our backs are against the wall but become complacent as soon as its back to process driven coaching. Damien IMV had them on the right track for a few years but I believe lost them. in fact I dont think we ever recovered from that Carlton Elim loss.
Dont have time to go into too much detail now but you all know, I love the club, I put what I can into it, memberships keep ticking over year after year etc and they just fail us year after year.
I just want an honest club that will make the calls it needs to, and so many of us can see that from here
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The Prestia deal - holy hell. Theyd want to get the other deals done well and not trade overs
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The club is choc-full of confidence......tricksters.....
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I'll say this.
If Damien Hardwick coaches Richmond a to a flag it would be the biggest disaster OER has ever faced.
I'm sure the masterminds on here will somehow take credit for turning it around.
Keep saying it and you're bound to be right. Like the ones saying Hawks were heading downwards for the past 3 years :lol
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Basically the resigning of Ivan Maric says it all.
Compare that to whats happening at Hawthorn.
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Basically the resigning of Ivan Maric says it all.
Compare that to whats happening at Hawthorn.
Yep Hawthorn have had a great trade period havent they
not
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Maric looks a lot better with the nankervis signing
He's not a terrible 3rd / 4th string option
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Has the game plan changed?
If it's still 2005 football - bottom 6.
if 2017 football - in the mix.
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The club is choc-full of confidence......tricksters.....
Dirty, Rotten Scoundrels.
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Confidence rising rapidly maybe back to a roar soon ;D
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I feel better than I did two days ago .
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Why?
Same coach, same admin , same recycled duds.
Got rid of a bloke who kicks 30+ and a two time b and f.
Again, why?
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Well for starters Vickery didn't have his own cheer squad - especially on OER .
Lids time is up . Time for him to build his nest egg. Hes given 11 years great service but hes been ravaged by injury lately and played on one leg this year.
Dimma will either succeed or be sacked in 2017 . Its win win .
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I'll be content if the board is overthrown in an egm
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Post the trade period, we've made up a little ground.
We've picked up 2 known quantities who should play another 8 years at the club.
They are the perfect age profile to complement Cotchin, Martin, Rance and Jack.
We've nailed the ruck ttrade - perfect profile in age and trade for what we need.
I'm hoping he's a Mumford quality trade but hope isn't a strategy.
We not batting deeply I the draft but we can't expect that to happen either.
Bringing 3 established players is going to cost draft picks.
For it to be a stellar trade, I'd have personally liked a couple of free hits with 2nd or 3rd round picks for Bellis and Lennongrad. The others mentioned on this forum aren't good enough to be traded. Simple really.
So now it's over to the coaching and conditioning staff to get these players fit and playing something resembling a winning game plan.
It's good enough to be a top 8 side but I kind of hope we have one of those 10 win years where we get a new coach, a couple of awesome draft picks and a new list manager
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lol you sad idiots would whinge about the incompetent way we won if we brought a flag home
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If we can get Barlow as a free agent I will be wrapped
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Enjoy it while u can. ;D