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AFL Round 13
RICHMOND vs Sydney
Saturday, 17th June, 1:45 PM AEST @ the M.C.G.
Bookies (Crownbet) have the Swans as favourites:
Richmond $2.08
Sydney $1.75
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/13/rich-v-syd
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Sydney coach John Longmire is clearly an admirer of the way the Tigers go about their business and knows his team will face a tough test at the MCG on Saturday week.
"They have been fierce around the contest," Longmire said of Richmond following the Swans' win over the Bulldogs.
"Their pressure has been enormous, that's the thing I've really noticed this year.
"They play a really strong hard brand of footy, so that's a good challenge for us."
Sydney utility Gary Rohan, who pulled out with sickness a few hours before Thursday's game, is expected to be available next week.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/swans-prepared-to-face-ire-of-the-tigers-ng-s-1735104
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Given the results this weekend, this is a huge game for us. We can open a nice little break on the chasing pack if we can knock off the Swans.
But what is it with teams finding form before they play us?
Swans suddenly look like a real finals chance, and Carlton seem to have found something as well, just in time for us for the week after.
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Given the results this weekend, this is a huge game for us. We can open a nice little break on the chasing pack if we can knock off the Swans.
But what is it with teams finding form before they play us?
Swans suddenly look like a real finals chance, and Carlton seem to have found something as well, just in time for us for the week after.
So we can smack them back to a place called "reality". Go tiges! Knocked off hoodoos and always been good at wrecking milestone games etc. 3 big weeks, 3 big wins hopefully
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Given the results this weekend, this is a huge game for us. We can open a nice little break on the chasing pack if we can knock off the Swans.
But what is it with teams finding form before they play us?
Swans suddenly look like a real finals chance, and Carlton seem to have found something as well, just in time for us for the week after.
Bombers were coming off a massive win against West Coast.
North had won 4 of their past 5.
While I dont think Swans will be easy - its not dumb luck we find ourselves fourth.
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Given the results this weekend, this is a huge game for us. We can open a nice little break on the chasing pack if we can knock off the Swans.
But what is it with teams finding form before they play us?
Swans suddenly look like a real finals chance, and Carlton seem to have found something as well, just in time for us for the week after.
Bombers were coming off a massive win against West Coast.
North had won 4 of their past 5.
While I dont think Swans will be easy - its not dumb luck we find ourselves fourth.
Agree
They got themselves here and they just need to stay hungry and take every game for what it is.
Swans have been building slowly so we need to go with the right mindset and not rest till thr siren is gone. Same every week.
Ive been pretty superstitious over the years but honestly its simple.. get thr ball first, kick more goals than thr opposition, give the opposition nothing and finish with a higher score
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Given the results this weekend, this is a huge game for us. We can open a nice little break on the chasing pack if we can knock off the Swans.
But what is it with teams finding form before they play us?
Swans suddenly look like a real finals chance, and Carlton seem to have found something as well, just in time for us for the week after.
Bombers were coming off a massive win against West Coast.
North had won 4 of their past 5.
While I dont think Swans will be easy - its not dumb luck we find ourselves fourth.
No. My point was simply that we seem to be in a run of playing teams seemingly on the up.
No problems with that guys. Got to beat the best to be the best.
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The Swans are going into the game with two rucks - Naismith & Sinclair.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/swans-to-stick-with-ruck-duo-against-tigers/news-story/0d3214b27116dd8de4edee8625abcacf
No doubt Big Nank will have something to prove against his old side.
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A crowd of 47,000 is expected at the 'G on Saturday.
http://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2017/june/richmond-v-sydney-june-17
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How the hell are the Swans favourites? Currently RFC $2.00 Swans $1.82.
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How the hell are the Swans favourites? Currently RFC $2.00 Swans $1.82.
Maybe because we're coming off the bye... :rollin
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AFL website is tipping us to win by a kick.
Match preview: Richmond v Sydney
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
June 13, 2017 1:20 PM
SUMMARY
From a hopeless position of 0-6, Sydney has dragged itself back into finals contention with a strong month of football that has it sitting 4-7. In its most convincing win yet, the Swans dismantled the Western Bulldogs in round 12, reminding the competition of their defensive prowess and hunger for the contested ball. They come up against a Richmond team that will be fresh off a bye, with the Tigers keen to establish themselves in the top four after Port Adelaide and the Bulldogs missed opportunities to push them out in round 12. Damien Hardwick's team took momentum into the bye with wins against Essendon and North Melbourne, with Dustin Martin and Trent Cotchin forming one of the League's most potent double acts. The Tigers might also draw an advantage from ruck recruit Toby Nankervis, who will face his former team for the first time.
WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Saturday, June 17, 1.45pm AEST
LAST FIVE TIMES
R23, 2016, Sydney 25.14 (164) d Richmond 7.9 (51) at the SCG
R8, 2016, Richmond 14.17 (101) d Sydney 15.10 (100) at the MCG
R13, 2015, Richmond 14.11 (95) d Sydney 11.11 (77) at the SCG
R23, 2014, Richmond 10.8 (68) d Sydney 9.11 (65) at ANZ Stadium
R14, 2014, Sydney 9.8 (62) d Richmond 7.9 (51) at the MCG
THE SIX POINTS
1. The Swans had the game wrapped up by half-time when these teams last played, kicking 14 goals to one to lead by 81 points at the main break. Lance Franklin finished the game best on ground with 17 kicks, 11 marks and seven goals.
2. Richmond is one of the strongest teams for marks inside 50 this season, averaging 13.5 a game (No.2 in the AFL). The Swans are mid-table, averaging 12.6.
3. Nothing separates the sides since 2013, with the ledger at 3-3. Four of the past five games have been decided by three goals or less.
4. Both teams have struggled to cleanly dispose of the ball this season. Richmond is ranked last for disposal efficiency (71.1 per cent) and the Swans are only marginally better (71.7 per cent).
5. It’s a tale of two form lines since round six. The Tigers have lost four of six games with an average score of 77 points, while the Swans have won four from six, kicking an average score of 102 points.
6. During the Swans run of four wins from five games, Isaac Heeney has climbed from No.125 overall in the Schick AFL Player Ratings to No.80. He is ranked No.6 at the Swans and No.6 among the AFL's medium/small forwards.
IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR … Lance Franklin and Alex Rance
The last time these sides met, in round 23 last year, the Tigers fielded a team of youngsters that was not competitive and Franklin kicked 7.4 in a 113-point win. Rance, who played that day, will be hoping for a tighter contest and more support in shutting down his superstar opponent in a match-up that is always worth watching. Since 2014 the pair has met four times, with Franklin kicking 18.6. If Rance wins the match-up it will go a long way to the Tigers winning. Vice versa for Franklin.
PREDICTION: Richmond by six points
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-13/match-preview-richmond-v-sydney
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How the hell are the Swans favourites? Currently RFC $2.00 Swans $1.82.
Maybe because we're coming off the bye... :rollin
Just watch their performance against last week against the Dogs
Pretty easy to work out
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Except for last season, I think history shows we lose after a bye. I think.
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Except for last season, I think history shows we lose after a bye. I think.
Only won 2 of past 7 after the bye .
Won last year - albeit against Brisbane.
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The Swans are planning to try and tag Dusty.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/afl/teams/sydney/george-hewett-set-for-biggest-assignment-against-richmond-dynamo-dustin-martin/news-story/9b520eddc19970a78221767db7e53628
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/swans-tough-afl-bid-to-tame-tiger-martin-ng-s-1736854
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Crucial game this week. I reckon Geelong will be beaten and we may even leapfrog them.
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Opening times
Gates
Public 12.00pm
AFL Reserve 12.00pm
MCC Reserve 12.00pm
Parking
Gate 3: 9.30am
Gate 5: 10.30am
Gate 6: 10.30am
Gate 7: 9.00am
Other information
Estimated attendance
47,000
General admission seating
Great Southern Stand
M1
M2 (Rows A-Z)
Q1-Q15
Ponsford Stand
M28-M32
M34-M36
Q29-Q36
Olympic Stand
Q49-Q57
Cheer squad seating
Richmond: Bays M3 (Rows A-K) and M4 (Rows A-K)
Sydney Swans: Bay M33 (Rows A-S)
http://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2017/june/richmond-v-sydney-june-17
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Sound like the Swans are going to tag Houli going by what Longmire said in his presser today (2nd half of article below).
Rance v Lance could be a letdown: Longmire
afl.com.au
15 June 2017
THOSE salivating over a marquee one-on-one matchup between Sydney superstar Lance Franklin and Richmond's Alex Rance in Saturday's clash at the MCG could be in for a letdown.
Seeing the game's best key defender trying to shut down one of the great forwards of the modern era sounds like a dream, but in reality, Tigers coach Damien Hardwick is too smart to let it happen, and his Swans counterpart John Longmire knows it.
Richmond have been burnt by the triple Coleman medallist in the past, most recently in round 23 last year when Franklin booted seven goals in his side's 113-point win at the SCG, and are likely to swing multiple backmen onto him at any one time on Saturday afternoon.
Longmire said Rance pulls in the headlines because of his outstanding career, but there was far more steel to the Tigers' defence in 2017, and onlookers waiting for the Rance-Franklin battle were in for some disapointment.
"It doesn't happen too often - footy these days is about players playing in different positions all the time but there's no doubt they'll end up on each other at times," the coach said.
"Because Rance is so good at winning the one-on-ones and shutting the key forwards down, but still be part of that rebound play that Richmond can deliver, it is a challenge for our forward group.
"But I heard Damien (Hardwick) talk about it during the week and I agree with him, Rance is in great form and he's a multiple All Australian, but his other key defenders are in great form as well.
"He's confident with any of those players on our key forwards and so he should be, they're doing a lot right the Tigers and their defensive group is really strong."
Young Swan George Hewett was given the task of quelling Western Bulldogs star Jason Johannisen and did it to perfection in round 12, but despite some suggesting he might go to Dustin Martin this week, it seems unlikely.
The 21-year-old would struggle to contain the physical Martin in the midfield, and is more suited to keeping an eye on Richmond defender Bachar Houli, who leads the team for rebound 50s and sets them up time and again with his foot skills across half back.
"He (Houli) is a very good player and very important to their team as far as what he does from their back half," Longmire said.
"He gives them great drive particularly at the MCG, he gives them great overlap run, and he's one of many players the Tigers have got in pretty good form.
"He'll take up some of our planning but it's ok to plan for them, you've still got to go out an execute, and that’s the challenge."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-15/rance-v-lance-could-be-a-letdown-longmire
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Maybe we could trade Houli to the Swans
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This has the Fremantle game written all over it....
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This has the Fremantle game written all over it....
Except Sydney are actually good!
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Tyson Stengle just elevated, interesting.
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Tyson Stengle just elevated, interesting.
Move Jack to the wing and have a 6 man midget forward line..
HF Stengle LLoyd Bolton
F Castagna Butler Rioli
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You'd think Chol would at least cover the more pressing need.... :huh
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You'd think Chol would at least cover the more pressing need.... :huh
RFC are going to revolutionise the new midget game plan that everyone will be regarding as the blue print after we win this years grand final
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You'd think Chol would at least cover the more pressing need.... :huh
RFC are going to revolutionise the new midget game plan that everyone will be regarding as the blue print after we win this years grand final
Yes, and Claw will finally check himself into a mental asylum :lol
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A massive opportunity for us now to jump up another spot and be only a game off top. Hope our boys were watching tonight's game and turn up switched on after the bye unlike Geelong who were asleep for the first half. Fire up and bring the tackling pressure and direct footy. Hurt the Swans with our speedsters.
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I get the feeling that Stengle will play.
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Prefer to be playing the Swans on the MCG rather than on a smaller ground. To win this game must win contested possession, maintain high pressure in our forwardline and kick straight.
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Prefer to be playing the Swans on the MCG rather than on a smaller ground. To win this game must win contested possession, maintain high pressure in our forwardline and kick straight.
Must also kick a higher score than the opposition
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Prefer to be playing the Swans on the MCG rather than on a smaller ground. To win this game must win contested possession, maintain high pressure in our forwardline and kick straight.
Must also kick a higher score than the opposition
If you don't have the right number of talls though not even that will work.
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Buddy versus Rance as Richmond and Sydney do battle
The Australian
June 16, 2017
Greg Denham
Senior Sports Writer
Melbourne
Richmond host Sydney at the MCG tomorrow in one of the most crucial games of the round. Fact. The Tigers are playing as well as they have for some time and victory could set them up for a top-four finish, which would guarantee more than one finals appearance for the first time since 2001.
If the Swans are to come back from the dead after losing their first six rounds, they need to win to keep pressing for an eighth straight finals appearance as they have little margin for error during the remainder of the season.
But what isn’t known and won’t be known until the early afternoon, is who will play on Sydney star Buddy Franklin.
The match-up of the season between Alex Rance, the All Australian fullback for the past three years, and Franklin, who won All Australian honours as a key forward for the sixth time last year, may be fleeting, according to both coaches. But it is doubtful they will be like ships that pass in the night.
Earlier this week, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick made the big call that his team had Franklin covered. He said Rance, the vastly improved Dave Astbury and an equally improved and injury-free Dylan Grimes would play their roles in preventing Franklin from dominating.
“I will back any of our key defenders versus Buddy,” he said. “All three of those guys are really putting their hands up to getting Buddy at any stage.”
The Tigers have been hurt by Franklin in the past. In the two clashes between the two clubs last year, Franklin was outstanding, making 21 scoring shots. He kicked seven goals in round 23 when the Swans had a 113-point win at the SCG and it was no fault of his that Sydney lost by a point after the siren at the MCG in round eight when he booted five.
However, Sydney coach John Longmire did not shy away yesterday from the likelihood that his most influential player could be monstered by any number of combinations the Tigers throw at him.
Of a potential pairing of Franklin and Rance, Longmire said: “It doesn’t happen too often — footy these days is about players playing in different positions all the time, but there’s no doubt they’ll end up on each other at times.
“Because Rance is so good at winning the one on ones and shutting the key forwards down, but still be part of that rebound play that Richmond can deliver, it is a challenge for our forward group.
“I heard Damien talk about it during the week and I agree with him: Rance is in great form and he’s a multiple All Australian, but his other key defenders are in great form as well. He’s confident with any of those players on our key forwards and so he should be, they’re doing a lot right, the Tigers, and their defensive group is really strong.”
What will help Franklin will be the performance of Sydney’s second tall option, Sam Reid, who has been a hot and cold commodity all season. Last week he kicked two goals in the Swans’ return to their best in a 46-point win over the Western Bulldogs. In round two, also against the Dogs, he kicked a personal-best six goals.
But in between he kicked just six goals in eight games, including being held goalless in four of them. In fairness to him, he was concussed early in the Swans’ loss to Hawthorn in round 10 and virtually took no part in the contest.
If Reid can create some early havoc tomorrow, it should allow Franklin to get off the chain.
Longmire has worries all over the ground, including how to combat Richmond midfielder Dustin Martin. He hinted George Hewett, in just his second season, was not the answer just because he had kept Bulldogs defender Jason Johannisen quiet eight days ago.
Longmire suggested Hewett would better serve the Swans on rebounding Tigers defender Bachar Houli, who is back to his best. “He (Houli) is a very good player and very important to their team as far as what he does from their back half,” Longmire said.
“He gives them great drive, particularly at the MCG, he gives them great overlap run. He’ll take up some of our planning but it’s OK to plan for them. You’ve still got to go out an execute, and that’s the challenge.”
Another interesting aspect of the game will be the clash of the ruckmen. Sydney pair Sam Naismith and Callum Sinclair are likely to go head to head with 2016 teammate Toby Nankervis, who was not ranked in the Swans’ top two big men in his brief career before moving south, where he has been a revelation at Punt Road.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/buddy-versus-rance-as-richmond-and-sydney-do-battle/news-story/b721ae7645c50130226995cf52960a8c
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FINAL INTERCHANGES
Richmond: Jayden Short, Shai Bolton, Connor Menadue, Jason Castagna
Sydney: Gary Rohan, Callum Sinclair, Dean Towers, Nic Newman
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-17/final-teams-saturday
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How the hell are the Swans favourites? Currently RFC $2.00 Swans $1.82.
thats what I said
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Rampe on Jack. So there's mismatch there.
Bolton crumbs and finally gets his first AFL goal :clapping :gotigers
Rich 12
Syd 1
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Good pressure so far. Our speed working to our advantage.
Holding the ball against the Swans 35m out. Cotch goal :gotigers
Rich 19
Syd 3
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The Tigers are away to a great start with four forward half intercepts (Sydney has none) that have launched two of their three goals.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/13/rich-v-syd
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Glad they're missing their shots.
19 - 4
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Two dropped marks at either end :scream.
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Good play by Titch out of defence to Macca (good mark). A few short passes ends up with Lloyd who hits up Lambert 45m out. OOTF :P.
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Jack playing 2nd ruck today in F50.
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A fraction sloppy last 10 mins. Making that one mistake each time.
Macca to Lloyd to Caddy who stabs to Rioli on the boundary 50m out. To the goalsquare and rushed through.
Rich 20
Syd 4
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Rioli to Titch to Lambert who marks. Hands to Georgie to Dusty in the square = GOAL! :gotigers
Rich 4.2-26
Syd 0.4-4
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Grigg to HF. Jack clever tap to Bolton who runs in and slams on another :gotiges
Rich 32
Syd 4
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Free to Nank and then 50 for a Swan lazily being in the protected area.
Shot after the siren. 20m out.
Grrr ..... Misses :P.
Quarter time
Richmond 5.3-33
Sydney 0.4-4
Goals: Bolton 2, Riewoldt, Martin, Cotchin.
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As I predicted, Shia is a very special player. Thank you Tyrone 😘
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Keep it up, Tiges.
Our speed is doing the damage. Bolton is proof of that. Would be close to B.O.G. to 1/4 time.
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Shai goes good
Shia is that extremely annoying actor
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I reckon Jack & Shai are going to make a great combination ... :clapping :gotigers
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The Tiger supporters are delighted with an opening quarter that ends with their team leading by 29 points. Richmond has been ferocious at the contest, leading the contested possession count (47-32), with Shai Bolton having a game-high seven.
Richmond has been able to play the game predominantly on its terms leading the inside count (16-10), forward half intercepts (7-3) and forward 50 tackles (5-2).
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/13/rich-v-syd
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Swans players having a go at each other already.
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My prediction almost came true. Rance's shot :o bounces but misses.
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Macca free 60m out HFF. Long to position on the other side and Dusty runs and jumps to mark it. Goal :gotigers.
Rich 6.3-39
Syd 0.4-4
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:banghead
Crap free to Buddy 55m out. Poor kick and Houli marks. Bachar then turns it straight over back to Buddy who goals.
39 - 10
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Rance to Caddy at CHB to Astbury. Down the free kick to Lloyd for a set shot. Misses.
Got to take these chances Tiges.
We get it back via Titch and Georgie gets the free. Another set shot. Goal :gotigers.
Rich 7.4-46
Syd 1.4-10
13 mins Q2
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Macca having a good game in defence.
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Don't know what's worse
Listening to Roos continually talk about how bad the swans are atm without paying us any credit or Dunstall almost barracking for the swans
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There were hands on the back but a nice Swan dive ::).
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Prestias kicking has been sublime today so far.
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Menadue to Jack who collects and gets it on. Dusty about to pounce the Swan defender back heels it through for a point.
We get it back and Prestia nice pass to Georgie. Hits the post :P.
Rich 48
Syd 16
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Cheap shot, Buddy. Reported for high bump on Menadue.
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I reckon we're about 2 more goals in a row away from breaking their backs. Got to put the hammer down now and take our chances
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Just making a few key dumb unforced errors at critical moments which is stopping us from burying them.
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stuffing Lloyd has been useless
Dumb prick
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Bloody turnover with 23 secs to go gifts them a goal on the siren :banghead
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Lloyd playing like he's been pulling bongs all morning
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Half-time
Richmond 5.3 7.6-48
Sydney 0.4 3.5-23
Goals: Bolton 2, Martin 2, Riewoldt, Cotchin, Castagna.
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Lloyd playing like he's been pulling bongs all morning
should never have been in the side in the first place
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This quarter the Swans lead in first possession at stoppages (10-2) and clearances (9-3), but have scored just the one goal from a stoppage.
Sydney lead hitouts to advantage (10-1), and first possession wins at stoppages (21-11). However, this has only translated into a 17-13 advantage in clearances, and Sydney has been outscored 8-13 from stoppages.
In a sign of an even team performance, Richmond has 11 players with ten or more disposals, while the Swans have just the three such players.
Richmond has the edge for inside 50s (28-25), forward 50 marks (7-5) and forward 50 tackles (8-4).
Possies:
Short 12
B.Ellis 12
Bolton 12
Prestia 11
Houli 11
Grigg 11
Lloyd 11
Lambert 11
Jack 10
Macca 10
Cotch 10
Caddy 10
Astbury 10
Dusty 9
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/13/rich-v-syd
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Rioli & Butler need to get going this half
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Beginning to lose structure and discipline ...leaders must stand up.
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Swans have lifted big time
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Boy did we need that. Titch goal :gotigers.
Rich 8.6-54
Syd 4.5-29
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We needed that against the run of play. That Edwards goal came from butler being clean and one grabbing it on the wing
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I am heartily sick of the overt concentration of the commentators on Sydney!!!!!
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Good tackle by Lloyd on Grundy. 45m out. Needs to make up for the one he cost us before half-time. He does :gotigers.
Rich 60
Syd 29
11 mins Q3
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Good team response tigers.
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Loving Prestia's efforts
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Richmond has seemingly been able to outnumber Sydney when the ball has been in dispute, and lead in loose ball gets 46-26.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/13/rich-v-syd
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Is someone going to plant one on heenys jaw today?
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LOL.
Thank gawd Buddy missed badly too.
60 - 36
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Can we be clean by hand, Tiges?
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Come on Lloyd how can you miss a 5 metrehandball by 10 metres?
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Their last two goals have come off our possession by hand :banghead.
60 - 42
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:banghead :banghead
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They are killing us in the midfield at the moment.
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We're in trouble here. Can't get hands on the footy. And they are trying to bully us smashing our players after every goal.
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How was that not htb????
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Come on Tiges. Lift in the middle.
7- 20 in contested footy this quarter :help.
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What's with all the aimless handball this qtr :banghead
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Swans getting everything from the umps this qtr too.
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Did someone give Buddy angry pill?
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stuffing LLOYD
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We need this, come on Constanza
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Hooray we finally got a free. Menadue to Caddy to Cotch and finds Georgie 40m out. Too close to man on the mark ::) and sprays it.
Rich 61
Syd 48
2:39 min to go to 3/4 time.
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Absolutely cannot cop one here
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3/4 time
Richmond 5.3 7.6 9.7-61
Sydney 0.4 3.5 7.6-48
Goals: Martin 2, Bolton 2, Riewoldt, Cotchin, Castagna, Edwards, Lloyd.
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Fire up tiges! Big last qtr coming up
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If I see stuffen Lloyd in this team again I bloody spew up. Brain dead footballer
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That quarter was summed up by all the dud handpasses :banghead.
Midfield needs a blast from Dimma. Out-worked, sloppy and got smashed that quarter.
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The Swans lead the inside 50 count 14-5 this quarter, and in doing so have denied the Tigers their renowned forward half control and preferred game style.
The Swans have won the loose ball get count (24-13) this quarter, after conceding this (18-38) to Richmond in the first half.
All four of the Sydney goals this quarter have come from chains started in the forward half, with the territory battle in this match critical.
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Fire up tiges! Big last qtr coming up
Yep. How much do we want this?!
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The small forwards need to lift and run, run, run.
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Smashed in contested footy as well. Lost 34- 51 that qtr.
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Great work by Rioli with the tap on but he's tackled as he kicks. However the Swans defender kick is poor and straight to Jack 50m out. He misses though.
Rich 62
Syd 48
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Rance cuts of the kick out of defence by the Swans. His pass is good and Nank marks. Hits the freaking post :banghead.
Out bloody set shot goalkicking :banghead
63 - 48
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Cotch in the middle to Prestia forward of centre. Long. Edwards crumbs and snaps another point.
64 - 49
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That was blantant HTB. Jones had ages to dispose of it >:(. Great chase by Menadue not rewarded.
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If anyone says our entries have cost us instead of missing easy shots has nfi!!!! How many goals have we missed from 25 today? Ffs
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Grigg turnover in defence across goal gifts them a goal :scream :banghead
64 - 55
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WHAT THE HELL :banghead
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Thank gawd Rance is playing.
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Another stupid turnover :banghead
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:banghead
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All their goals are set up by our dumb turnovers :banghead.
Grimes off limping too.
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Cotch to Rioli to Jack 48m out on the boundary. Kicks the hard one. Goalllllllllllllllllllllllll :gotigers
Understatement to say we needed that.
Rich 10.10-70
Syd 9.7-61
16 mins Q4
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Too easy, Tiges :banghead.
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Just over 8 mins to go.
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And poor disposal going forward :banghead.
Crowd is 58k :o,
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We look tired
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Get stuffed ump. That's not deliberate. it was off the side of the boot >:(
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Swans in front :banghead
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Great leadership Cotchin!
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We look tired
Got to be mentally tough.
Schoolboy skill errors have hurt us big time.
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Umpires can go and get stuffed and so can Dudwick the most clueless coach in our history
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Meanwhile Hardwick retreats to the back of the box!
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Deliberate against the Swans. Dusty with it. Has a snap and misses but it's called back. Grigg with it misses.
71 - 73
About 5 mins to go.
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"Lloyd lost it" is the slogan of today.
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Under 3 mins to go.
71 - 74
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Can't seem to get it in our forward 50
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1:24 min to go. Swans with possession.
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Can't win the 50/50s.
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Under 20 secs. We've lost it.
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Weak effort. No excuses.
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stuffing useless pieces of stuffing poo
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Not good enough, Tiges.
A repeat of the GWS game. Had chances at the start of last quarter to kick goals and missed and then got run over :banghead.
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stuff this poo club!!!!
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Absolute pee weak in the head. This many games like this in a season is ridiculous. Can become a better team like we have but if we keep losing games like this and being pee weak mentally we will never go anywhere in finals
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Weak as pee. stuffen chocked again!! Yes I stuffen looking at you Grigg, Lloyd, Houli and u other stuffen panic merchants
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Houli, Ellis, Grigg =poo
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:banghead :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck
The AFL court jester does it again. Comedy club! :rollin
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Just stuff Dudwick off now. Continues to pick stuffen hacks because they his mates!!!
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Game should have been over at half-time but our dumb turnovers gifting them goals and our poor goalkicking yet again kept them it in.
More scoring shots but still lost. Pathetic!
Just 3 goals in a half is pathetic as well.
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Houli, Ellis, Grigg =poo
Yep...the fan boys can spruik them all they want but in clutch situations these 3 panic, jib and cough it up.
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Weak as pee. stuffen chocked again!! Yes I stuffen looking at you Grigg, Lloyd, Houli and u other stuffen panic merchants
Their turnovers were really costly.
Lloyd with 23 secs to go in the first half kicks into the corridor.
Houli straight pass to Buddy.
Grigg across the face of goal.
Then all the useless handballs by the most of our midfield that missed the target gifted the Swans the rest of their goals.
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BTW Menadue was screwed several times by the umps in that last quarter.
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Butler only had 4 disposals and Rioli 8. Not good enough
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The Swans were able to overwhelm the Tigers as the game wore on, winning contested possessions (90-73) and inside 50s (30-21) which denied the Tigers their forward half control.
Nic Newman with a game-high 620 metres gained was crucial today.
http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/13/rich-v-syd
Who was on Newman by the way?
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Time for Rioli to be dropped.
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Time for Rioli to be dropped.
Has struggled of late and keeps losing his feet, needs to win more of the one on ones but feel he is another of the small amigos running out of puff.
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What is worrying is that we don't learn same scenario over and over chance to kill the game we blow it should have been over yet we kept them in it, and then football smarts go missing ,players just mentally weake.
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Nearly enough close losses to make it a Netflix series. RIP Tiges, Buddy and holding the ball.
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36 points up and loose it shameful.
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Summary:
1st qtr = brilliant
2nd qtr = dumb footy in the last 4 minutes. Thanks Sam Lloyd, a true gift giver
3rd qtr = soft and predictable
4th qtr = pathetic
Terrific, just terrific TM
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Lloyd been poor last 4 games useless like to see Lennon be given 4 games.
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Lloyd been poor last 4 games useless like to see Lennon be given 4 games.
Main issue with Lloyd is his lack of leg speed.
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Watching today I thought some blokes thought they were the inspiration of the Beatles classic "Nowhere Man"
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Missing easy set shots to put the game away keeps them in the game :banghead
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Lloyd been poor last 4 games useless like to see Lennon be given 4 games.
Main issue with Lloyd is his lack of leg speed.
True
But that's always been offset by good decision making
That's completely disappeared so he's a liability now
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Richmond captain Trent Cotchin spoke to 3AW in the rooms.
He said the Tigers “let one slip”.
“Any loss is a tough one, especially when you’re dominating the game,” Cotchin said.
“We’ll be better for it.”
AUDIO: https://omny.fm/shows/3aw-is-football/trent-cotchin-any-loss-is-a-tough-one
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Lloyd was always serviceable because he could play taller and good for a goal or two. He has no other tricks so when he isn't doing those he isn't doing anything.
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Richmond captain Trent Cotchin spoke to 3AW in the rooms.
He said the Tigers “let one slip”.
“Any loss is a tough one, especially when you’re dominating the game,” Cotchin said.
“We’ll be better for it.”
AUDIO: https://omny.fm/shows/3aw-is-football/trent-cotchin-any-loss-is-a-tough-one
So much learning from losses we should be flag favourites by now.
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Richmond captain Trent Cotchin spoke to 3AW in the rooms.
He said the Tigers “let one slip”.
“Any loss is a tough one, especially when you’re dominating the game,” Cotchin said.
“We’ll be better for it.”
AUDIO: https://omny.fm/shows/3aw-is-football/trent-cotchin-any-loss-is-a-tough-one
Absolute crap Cotch
We're not better for it or from it.
We embarrassed ourselves again
Stupid comment from the skipper
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One thing is for sure. If we become better for close losses, we are a monty to win the flag next year.
I just don't see the evidence of learning anything from this. We dominate, yet do everything in our power to kill the momentum we build.
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Time for Rioli to be dropped.
Don't be stupid... his uncle was a champ for us.... :shh
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Richmond captain Trent Cotchin spoke to 3AW in the rooms.
He said the Tigers “let one slip”.
“Any loss is a tough one, especially when you’re dominating the game,” Cotchin said.
“We’ll be better for it.”
AUDIO: https://omny.fm/shows/3aw-is-football/trent-cotchin-any-loss-is-a-tough-one
Absolute crap Cotch
We're not better for it or from it.
We embarrassed ourselves again
Stupid comment from the skipper
At least no one said " Sydney are a good side".......hang on.
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I thought Astbury was very good again today.
We may need to think about playing him at CHF as Jack needs some help.
Rance, Grimes and McIntosh as our 3 talls down back and see how that goes??
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I thought Astbury was very good again today.
We may need to think about playing him at CHF as Jack needs some help.
Rance, Grimes and McIntosh as our 3 talls down back and see how that goes??
It is tempting, but I'd rather let Astbury settle into that defensive role, even if it costs us short term.
He is starting to show why they gave him No.12. I don't want to tempt fate.
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I thought Astbury was very good again today.
We may need to think about playing him at CHF as Jack needs some help.
Rance, Grimes and McIntosh as our 3 talls down back and see how that goes??
It is tempting, but I'd rather let Astbury settle into that defensive role, even if it costs us short term.
He is starting to show why they gave him No.12. I don't want to tempt fate.
You can always send him back???
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I thought Astbury was very good again today.
We may need to think about playing him at CHF as Jack needs some help.
Rance, Grimes and McIntosh as our 3 talls down back and see how that goes??
It is tempting, but I'd rather let Astbury settle into that defensive role, even if it costs us short term.
He is starting to show why they gave him No.12. I don't want to tempt fate.
You can always send him back???
I'm thinking along the lines of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'd hate to see him go forward and lose that defensive form.
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I thought Astbury was very good again today.
We may need to think about playing him at CHF as Jack needs some help.
Rance, Grimes and McIntosh as our 3 talls down back and see how that goes??
Thought Astbury was outstanding so I'd leave him down bakc
Why not try McIntosh at CHF
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Weak as pee. stuffen chocked again!! Yes I stuffen looking at you Grigg, Lloyd, Houli and u other stuffen panic merchants
Their turnovers were really costly.
Lloyd with 23 secs to go in the first half kicks into the corridor.
Houli straight pass to Buddy.
Grigg across the face of goal.
Then all the useless handballs by the most of our midfield that missed the target gifted the Swans the rest of their goals.
You forgot Lloyds handball that missed his target by 10 metres and cost us a goal early in the 3rd.
Otherwise carry on
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I thought Astbury was very good again today.
We may need to think about playing him at CHF as Jack needs some help.
Rance, Grimes and McIntosh as our 3 talls down back and see how that goes??
Thought Astbury was outstanding so I'd leave him down bakc
Why not try McIntosh at CHF
Yep i would try it and have said it for weeks. We desperately need other marking options. Lennon ? He can take a mark and hits packs. We might need to elevate Chol... not ready but he can ruck assist, contest, run and mark. The small forwards have been good but time for a slight change me thinks.
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Spent all our tickets in the first half. Sydney was Ali to our George Foreman. We still carry too many dumb panic merchants & poorly skilled players. Halfstep Halftime Hardwick needs to finally realise that his old favourites Grigg, Houli, Edwards and a few others aren't going to take us further and have been common denominators in these kind of defeats for years now.
Lloyd is just a liabilty now - surely Lennon couldn't do any worse.
Tackling numbers might've improved but tackling technique is still absymal, never seem to stop the handball and we still miss too many tackles.
Players need to stop keeping the ball alive at all costs in the clinches and start playing the percentages and kill the ball, unless they have a clear option.
Rioli needs to seperate himself from his opponents and encourage the kick over the top - teammates should kick it ahead of the contest regardless to encourage him to turn his opponent and use his pace.
Set shot goal kicking is a disgrace. Nankervis & Castagna worst offenders - the latter a serial offender.
Halfstep is still a stunned mullet in the box. Worst matchday coach in the AFL.
Short is a completely useless defender, and whilst he can be handy on the rebound he's not on Yarran's level to compensate. Might be time to put him forward again and stick one of the indigineous kids back there.
Butler's lack of awareness is becoming a concern - and why does he constantly hesitatate with his kicks anyway?
..and there's at least dozen other things but I can't arsed right now.....
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I thought Astbury was very good again today.
We may need to think about playing him at CHF as Jack needs some help.
Rance, Grimes and McIntosh as our 3 talls down back and see how that goes??
Thought Astbury was outstanding so I'd leave him down bakc
Why not try McIntosh at CHF
Because he cannot mark the footy??
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Yep - any half decent tall defender would take him to the cleaners....
....though he'd probably still be an upgrade on Elton & Griffiths....
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Yep - any half decent tall defebder would take him to the cleaners....
....though he'd probably still be better than Elton & Griffiths....
Anyone that can stay out there more than 5 minutes is already doing better than Biff.
Elton just isn't any good full stop... I was going to say he tries hard at least but I think "tried hard" past tense is more appropriate. Bloody useless in his last few games at senior level.
F them both off.
Play Astbury forward and McIntosh in defence.
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I don't think it's fatigue, we panic when we get 5 goals ahead of teams (for some reason :huh)
We play the opposite of our style of play once we get a decent break and when behind, we do the inverse (Melb, Collingwood, Eagles).
It's purely a mental thing.
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Took sydney at qt at $4.60
Betting live against these amateurs is the easiest money you will make and I strongly advise you all to do the same until dudwick is no longer there
What you witnessed yesterday is the same as what you will see in September. Under dimwit this team is as soft as you will find
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Spent all our tickets in the first half. Sydney was Ali to our George Foreman. We still carry too many dumb panic merchants & poorly skilled players. Halfstep Halftime Hardwick needs to finally realise that his old favourites Grigg, Houli, Edwards and a few others aren't going to take us further and have been common denominators in these kind of defeats for years now.
Lloyd is just a liabilty now - surely Lennon couldn't do any worse.
Tackling numbers might've improved but tackling technique is still absymal, never seem to stop the handball and we still miss too many tackles.
Players need to stop keeping the ball alive at all costs in the clinches and start playing the percentages and kill the ball, unless they have a clear option.
Rioli needs to seperate himself from his opponents and encourage the kick over the top - teammates should kick it ahead of the contest regardless to encourage him to turn his opponent and use his pace.
Set shot goal kicking is a disgrace. Nankervis & Castagna worst offenders - the latter a serial offender.
Halfstep is still a stunned mullet in the box. Worst matchday coach in the AFL.
Short is a completely useless defender, and whilst he can be handy on the rebound he's not on Yarran's level to compensate. Might be time to put him forward again and stick one of the indigineous kids back there.
Butler's lack of awareness is becoming a concern - and why does he constantly hesitatate with his kicks anyway?
..and there's at least dozen other things but I can't arsed right now.....
all correct, i highlighted the bit that does my head in the most (after our continual set shot misses). When will these morons learn to kill the ball and force a ballup?
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Here are my thoughts ...
Sydney tried to bully us from the opening bounce - but they were shell shocked early .Tigers were brilliant.
Tide definitely turned 5 minutes before half time .
Like the GWS game - crucial goals were missed at critical times . ( thanks Nank ) Easy goals . This again has cost us victory.
They are brewing something pretty special down at tigerland but its hasn't come together just yet . Still a few missing pieces of the jigsaw.
Dusty looked proppy. Maybe he was injured.
Lennon must come in for Lloyd - who has been ordinary.
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This has the Fremantle game written all over it....
Hate to say it but I was right. When will we learn the killer instinct??
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well, we lack talls, when our midgets are all shagged from running/jumping all day, their talls are able to take marks over their heads with little effort. It is like watching Corgis versus Great Danes in the second half
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well, we lack talls, when our midgets are all shagged from running/jumping all day, their talls are able to take marks over their heads with little effort. It is like watching Corgis versus Great Danes in the second half
I like this - we need to play a few more talls as you need that contest at times down the line. We didn't pull the trigger on that kick as smalls were the only options against tall opponents.
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This has the Fremantle game written all over it....
Hate to say it but I was right. When will we learn the killer instinct??
I thought this game mirrored the game against the other Sydney team .
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You can't have one ruckman.
You can't have install fwd.
You can't have a coach who can't inspire at crucial times and hasn't been able to for 8 years.
It's Dimmers legacy. ...close but not really that close after all.
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Dion Prestia says Richmond unlucky in close loss to the Sydney
Rebecca Williams,
Herald Sun
18 June 2017
RICHMOND midfielder Dion Prestia has described the Tigers latest close loss as “unlucky” but admits the team’s response to Sydney’s second-half pressure let it down.
In what has become the story of their season, the Tigers succumbed in another tight finish when they surrendered a six-goal second-quarter lead to lose by nine points to the Swans at the MCG on Saturday.
The defeat was the Tigers’ fourth loss under 10 points this season, following similar results in close encounters against the Western Bulldogs (five points), Fremantle (two points) and Greater Western Sydney (three points).
Prestia said the Tigers’ review had centred on what they could have done better in the last term, but the positive was they had been in the contest.
“We have been in the game, that’s the positive that we take out of it,’’ Prestia said.
“We had one blowout loss against Adelaide, but we’ve been in games, we won a couple of close games as well at the start of the year, which was good.
“But I think it’s just the way that the comp’s going, it’s a very close year this year.
“I think maybe those games where we lost (it was) maybe a structure thing, it wasn’t really luck.
“In the heat of the moment, it’s hard to get everything right and after the siren goals and goals with 10 seconds to go, you can’t set that out.’’
Sydney had trailed the Tigers by 36 points in the second quarter, but kicked eight of the last nine goals to claim their fifth win from six games.
Prestia said the difference had been the Swans’ rise in pressure in the second half.
“We got off to a flying start, I think we were up by about 36 points at one point, but to Sydney’s credit they slowly clawed us back and hit the lead at the right time ... (we were) a bit unlucky,’’ Prestia said.
“We said after quarter time that they would come out and probably start to lift their pressure, which I feel they did around the stoppages.
“We just couldn’t really finish off our work. We were playing the same as we were in the first half, but we just missed a lot of shots inside 30, inside 40.
“But to their credit, they lifted in the second half and got the job done.’’
Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said after the match the Tigers had to learn how to deal with pressure situations in tight games.
Asked if the Tigers had lost their nerve in the last quarter, Prestia said there had been a lot of pressure going into the game before the Swans’ turned up the heat.
“It’s a lot of pressure going into the game, but I think the way Sydney play, they got a lot of numbers back so their midfielders were pushing back pretty hard which made it a bit tough to score and then they were getting us on the rebound,’’ Prestia said.
“So that’s maybe why we couldn’t convert and were taking some tough shots ... it was just the way that Sydney structure up.’’
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/dion-prestia-says-richmond-unlucky-in-close-loss-to-the-sydney-swans/news-story/135fb930eb92664397bbc052adf87f32
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Here are my thoughts ...
Sydney tried to bully us from the opening bounce - but they were shell shocked early .Tigers were brilliant.
Tide definitely turned 5 minutes before half time .
Like the GWS game - crucial goals were missed at critical times . ( thanks Nank ) Easy goals . This again has cost us victory.
They are brewing something pretty special down at tigerland but its hasn't come together just yet . Still a few missing pieces of the jigsaw.
Dusty looked proppy. Maybe he was injured.
Lennon must come in for Lloyd - who has been ordinary.
Tide turned when Lloyd's turnover gifted them a goal shortly /2 time. After quarter time it appeared we went to sleep. The defence was fantastic all day-Rance, Astbury and Grimes. Cotchin tried to hard to get into the game but just couldn't make an impact and Dustin definitely didn't look 100 percent. Can't afford to miss easy shots. Can't afford to gift easy goals(eg Griggs's turnover).
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Tide turned when Lloyd's turnover gifted them a goal shortly /2 time.
BINGO :bow
Made the comment at half time "turning point right there, soft so bloody soft"
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Richmond’s loss to Sydney the biggest sliding-doors moment of the season
Mark Duffield
West Australian
19 June 2017
Round 13: Unlucky for some. Or perhaps luck has little to do with it.
Richmond lost their fourth game for the year by less than 10 points against Sydney at the MCG on Saturday.
If they had won even two of them — the ones Fremantle and Greater Western Sydney snatched from them at the death — they would be equal on points with Adelaide and GWS at the top of the ladder.
This was the round’s sliding-doors moment and perhaps the biggest such moment of the season.
The Tigers, nursing a lead that grew to six goals in the second term, conceded eight of this game’s last nine majors to lose.
That’s a hard thing to do, especially when your primary defender Alex Rance is playing one of the all-time great games on Lance Franklin.
At times in Saturday’s desperate last quarter, Rance looked capable of stopping the tide from coming in.
Winning the football and sending it back the other way was easy by comparison until Sydney skipper Josh Kennedy figured out the way to prevent Rance from intervening in Sydney attacks — he lobbed a 50m bomb over Rance’s head for a momentum-building goal.
Had Richmond won, they would have been primed for a tilt at the top four. Had Sydney lost, they would have been all but eliminated from the race for the finals.
Now you fancy both teams are going to end up fighting for the same spots at the bottom end of the top eight.
The Swans are probably going to have to win seven of their last 10 to have the chance to make it, but home games against Essendon, Gold Coast, Fremantle, St Kilda and Carlton will provide hope that that is achievable.
There is also an away game against Hawthorn.
Richmond have Hawthorn, Gold Coast, Brisbane and Fremantle in their way, but the Dockers clash is in Perth and the Suns match is in Queensland.
An old-fashioned Melbourne blockbuster against improving Carlton on Sunday and two games against St Kilda are likely to shape the Tigers’ finals destiny.
Much has been made of Richmond’s inability to win the close ones this year.
They were unlucky with a couple of umpiring decisions in their five-point loss to the Western Bulldogs, but they didn’t protect the back end of the centre square at the last centre bounce against the Dockers and Lachie Neale stormed out to kick the ball to David Mundy, who converted.
And they didn’t man the mark against GWS at the last critical kick-in from a behind.
When long-kicking Nathan Wilson bombed the ball to the centre circle, the only player over the back of the pack to crumb for the Tigers was lumbering ruckman Toby Nankervis.
It was disorganisation personified.
It must be said that some of Richmond’s players are unlikely to enjoy the post-match review of the loss to Sydney, including some of the lightning-quick runners who helped them establish their decisive first-half break in the first place.
Shai Bolton, who set the game alight with two goals in the first quarter, was virtually invisible after half-time when he had just two disposals.
Daniel Rioli, who had only eight possessions for the match, went to ground a number of times in the tense last quarter when he needed to hold his feet and stay involved in contests.
Jason Castagna missed a couple of precious shots on goal. Dan Butler had four touches for the game. Connor Menadue took on tacklers twice and paid for it. Memo to Menadue: The Swans don’t miss tackles when they are switched on as they were after half-time in this one.
In fairness, all of those players are young and learning.
But the four points on offer in this game were a high price to pay for the football education they got from the Swans.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-loss-to-sydney-the-biggest-sliding-doors-moment-of-the-season-ng-b88510754z
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Coaches votes (Hardwick & Longmire)
RICHMOND v SYDNEY
10 Alex Rance (Rich)
6 Nic Newman (Syd)
4 Jake Lloyd (Syd)
3 Isaac Heeney (Syd)
3 Tom Papley (Syd)
2 Bachar Houli (Rich)
2 Zak Jones (Syd)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-19/aflca-votes-round-13-five-out-of-six-perfect-10s
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Tide turned when Lloyd's turnover gifted them a goal shortly /2 time.
BINGO :bow
Made the comment at half time "turning point right there, soft so bloody soft"
And this is what happens in these games that end up handing over on a plate.
A simple mistake made by a player that really is average at best.
It then infects the whole lot of them...
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Coaches votes (Hardwick & Longmire)
RICHMOND v SYDNEY
10 Alex Rance (Rich)
6 Nic Newman (Syd)
4 Jake Lloyd (Syd)
3 Isaac Heeney (Syd)
3 Tom Papley (Syd)
2 Bachar Houli (Rich)
2 Zak Jones (Syd)
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-19/aflca-votes-round-13-five-out-of-six-perfect-10s
Houli has photos