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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 25, 2019, 02:17:12 AM
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We're slight favourite despite no Rance.
Richmond v Collingwood
7:20pm AEDT, Mar 28, 2019.
@ the M.C.G.
Odds:
Richmond $1.81
Collingwood $1.97
https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/2/rich-v-coll
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Why are Collingwood flag favourites but not the fave for this game?
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Why are Collingwood flag favourites but not the fave for this game?
Dunno where everyone else has been looking but from what I’ve seen at a couple of the betting agencies, we are equal favs for the flag with the pies.
Started the round $0.50 ahead of them then dropped $0.50 behind them after rances injury then all square after their loss on Friday.
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The MCG website is saying they are expecting a crowd of 75,000 on Thursday night.
https://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2019/march/richmond-v-collingwood-march-28
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Sorry for being Captain obvious, but with losing Rance and GWS at Giants stadium the week after this is a MASSIVE MASSIVE game for the club
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75k at the G on Thursday night? Sure, no doubt. Does that include the filthy Maggot supporters too? :P
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Fans urged to plan ahead with train works and should allow extra travel time.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2019-03-25/fans-urged-to-plan-ahead-with-train-works
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Sorry for being Captain obvious, but with losing Rance and GWS at Giants stadium the week after this is a MASSIVE MASSIVE game for the club
We will be able to go into the game with nothing to lose while this time around all the pressure will be on the Pies.
If we can win on Thursday night as the underdog without Rance then it will be sweet revenge. Hopefully Dimma has learnt to not allow Sidebottom to run around and do what he wants and that we prevent Cox from being able to run and jump in a straight line at the ball. The Cats' defenders did the latter extremely well. The Pies also go all out trying to win games in the first half. So if we can stick with them on the scoreboard to half-time then we can run them down in the second half as the Eagles did on GF day and Geelong did in round 1. In the Prelim, we got too far back to make up the ground on the scoreboard.
75k at the G on Thursday night? Sure, no doubt. Does that include the filthy Maggot supporters too? :P
I would be expecting 80k+ given one is the biggest club in the land and the other being Collingwood ;).
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The loss of Alex Rance will make Richmond a "less predictable" opposition, according to Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley, ahead of the Pies' round two clash against the Tigers this Thursday.
"You might think aerially they might be more gettable in the front half," he said on Thursday, although adding the caveat that Richmond's strongest defence was stopping the ball from reaching that part of the field in the first place.
It would be a change up from the Tigers, usually known for their predictable playing style, he said.
The blockbuster match between two of the competition's frontrunners is expected to draw a crowd of more than 80,000.
"There is a fair bit of sting among the boys," warned Richmond star recruit Tom Lynch earlier in the day.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/magpies-hedge-bets-ahead-of-match-against-rance-less-tigers-20190326-p517p0.html
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The AFL website is tipping the Pies by 7 pts.
Match preview: Richmond v Collingwood
AFL.com.au
Sarah Black
Mar 27, 2019
Where and when: MCG, Thursday March 28, 7.20pm AEDT
Last time they met: MCG, preliminary final, 2018: Richmond 8.10 (58) lost to Collingwood 15.7 (97)
The Collingwood train left a shell-shocked Richmond in its wake, with Mason Cox dominating up forward in a second-term burst that resulted in a 53-point lead. Richmond rallied on the back of Jack Riewoldt's five goals, but it was too little, too late.
What it means for Richmond: Redemption. The Tigers were wounded after the Magpies overran them in the preliminary final. The two sides match up well, with Collingwood regularly causing Richmond trouble over the past few years.
What it means for Collingwood: The Magpies are under the pump after a sluggish seven-point loss to Geelong in round one. A big win over last year's minor premiers would be a strong statement.
How Richmond wins: Geelong's new-look speedy forward line poked holes in Collingwood's defence, and Richmond has the personnel to do the same. Big forwards Tom Lynch and Jack Riewoldt need to bring their smaller teammates into the game.
How Collingwood wins: Exploit Richmond's second ruckman. Collingwood has the best midfield in the competition and will greatly benefit from Brodie Grundy going head-to-head with second-gamer Noah Balta.
The stat: Richmond star defender Alex Rance has missed two games since round nine, 2014. He is now expected to be sidelined for the year after tearing his right ACL last week.
The match-up: Jordan De Goey v Dylan Grimes
Grimes (ranked 210th overall in the Schick AFL Player Ratings) will be hurting after De Goey (90th) kicked four last time they met. With De Goey capable of turning a match on its head, Grimes is set for a big task once again.
It's a big week for: Nick Vlastuin
It will be the first time we will have a look at life at Richmond without defensive general Rance. David Astbury's role taking the No.1 forward (Mason Cox) isn't expected to change, but Vlastuin may be forced to take greater responsibility.
Big call: After a quieter game by his lofty standards (23 disposals), expect Dayne Beams to dominate out of the middle in his second match back in the black and white and even kick two goals.
Prediction: Magpies by seven points
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-26/match-preview-richmond-v-collingwood
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Didn't De Goey kick most of his goals on Rance? :huh
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Club sms says there will be GA at Gate 1 but they recommend ppl to buy a reserved seat.
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Let's hope they finally put a tag on Siddebottom and double team Cox hope Dimma has learned from last year was to hard-headed.
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Let's hope they finally put a tag on Siddebottom and double team Cox hope Dimma has learned from last year was to hard-headed.
Going off Dimma’s last 8 years as coach, he isn’t one to admit he got something terribley wrong, so I’m tipping Sidebottom runs around again without much resistance.
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Let's hope they finally put a tag on Siddebottom and double team Cox hope Dimma has learned from last year was to hard-headed.
Going off Dimma’s last 8 years as coach, he isn’t one to admit he got something terribley wrong, so I’m tipping Sidebottom runs around again without much resistance.
I dont want him admitting he made a mistake, I want him to focus on why we got beaten & fix it next time around.
Mostly for the last 2 years we've done that, '17 we did it every return game
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Let's hope they finally put a tag on Siddebottom and double team Cox hope Dimma has learned from last year was to hard-headed.
Going off Dimma’s last 8 years as coach, he isn’t one to admit he got something terribley wrong, so I’m tipping Sidebottom runs around again without much resistance.
I dont want him admitting he made a mistake, I want him to focus on why we got beaten & fix it next time around.
Mostly for the last 2 years we've done that, '17 we did it every return game
Him admitting his mistake would be to play someone on Sidebottom tomorrow night.
But I bet he doesn’t.
I don’t want him to actually say the words....
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Lyons and McAveney, 2 RFC haters IMO, will probably commentate as well.
Muted replay.
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Lyons and McAveney, 2 RFC haters IMO, will probably commentate as well.
Muted replay.
Bruce is many things to many people but a Richmond hater isnt one of them
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Lyons and McAveney, 2 RFC haters IMO, will probably commentate as well.
Muted replay.
appreciate the heads up
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NO LATE CHANGES
FINAL INTERCHANGES
Richmond: Jason Castagna, Mav Weller, Jack Higgins, Brandon Ellis
Collingwood: Tom Phillips, Levi Greenwood, James Aish, Travis Varcoe
Source: AFL website.
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Dimma being interviewed on Fox now. Browny asked who will assist Nank tonight with Balta out. Dimma said “we have a few options but you might see something you haven’t seen before tonight”....
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jack to 2nd ruck
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What has happened to butler seriously so damn scared of contact now
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Lost at selection. Should have played an extra tall.
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40 more possessions and 38 more marks is a worry. We are so scrappy going forward. Do we have a lead up forward?
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Quarter time
Richmond 2.2-14
Coll'wood 3.2-20
Geez we're fumbly :banghead.
Getting smashed on the middle. Too much panic and reactive footy.
Our F50 entries are pathetic. Too slow and predictable. When we do get it in there quickly our decision making, disposals and ball-handling is woeful. Has Butler had a lobotomy this year? :help
Only positive is we're still close on the scoreboard.
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Wow. How many times have I already seen Sidebottom all on his own in a wing.
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Oh great! Jack looks like he has injured his wrist :P.
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Going too long inside 50
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Stop bombing it. Not working
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Can we get the sack Hardwick thread back up. Go man on man you idiot. So many loose players
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Can we actually hit a target? This quarter has been us falling back allowing Collingwood to do what they want and even when we get the turnover we just kick it straight back to them :banghead.
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Too Lynch conscious. Small forwards need to lift
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brought runners in but theyve been inneffective. collingwood beating us on inside and out. need to use our speed and bring that pressure around the ball we've all gotten used to.
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Ridiculous skills.
Not playing balta wasn’t a great decision
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Thought we were about to put the que in the rack but we are scrapping hard without the ball. We have to because we turn it over so much in dangerous spots.
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Great goal Sheds! :bow :gotigers
Half-time
Richmond 2.2 6.3-39
Coll'wood 3.2 7.3-45
Don't know how we are so close :gobdrop. The last 5 mins made up for all the schoolboy crap before it. Started to win the centre clearances and clunk some marks inside F50.
Lynch starting to show why we got him.
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6 points and feel like we should 8 goals down.
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Our pressure has been below standard
Hopefully that last tackle will give the boys a pickup.
We are getting thrashed all over the ground
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Our pressure has been below standard
Hopefully that last tackle will give the boys a pickup.
We are getting thrashed all over the ground
That’s because they are playing keepings off.
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Must go man on man in second half.
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No point having a Riewoldt / Lynch forward line if one of them is in the ruck. We can’t bring the ball to ground for our smalls to bring the pressure. Balta and Gathwaite in for Ellis and Markov now please!
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How can it be holding the ball if you keep fumbling it and never take possession of it? :huh3
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Hard to win if we keep turning it over so easily :banghead
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When things aren't going your way stick to the percentages, Dusty. Kick the drop punt. That cost us 11 points.
Lynch gets it back.
52 - 63
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Surely a right foot banana is more difficult than a drop punt from that angle Dusty! Eff me we are all razzle dazzle at the wrong time.
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Another goal gifted to them from us stuffing us a golden chance up the other end :banghead.
We have been our own worst enemy tonight. Skill level has been atrocious.
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Who’s Astbury yelling at?
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Has this chaos footy style already seen it's day
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Our forward line entries are a disgrace. Total crap.
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Mav Weller, the 2's await
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Mav Weller, the 2's await
Don’t forget markov
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Sidebottom tackled and throws it right in front of our goal and it's called play on ::).
3/4 time
Richmond 2.2 6.3 9.4-58
Coll'wood 3.2 7.3 12.4-76
Hard to win when we keep shooting ourselves in the foot with our skills and dumb decision making :banghead. Markov's handgrenade handpass to Prestia which gifted Pendlebury their goal another perfect example :banghead. Even we goal we do our best to try and stuff it up :help.
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Blatant throw in our goal square by Sidebottom gets missed. Can someone run the umpires a jar of vaseline, at least be polite and lube up if you’re going stick it up our pookie.
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Mav Weller, the 2's await
Don’t forget markov
And Ellis.
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Spuds are spuds at any level. Ellis, Markov, Weller
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They are not the only ones. We have been terrible tonight. Unfortunately Collingwood are better than us. Thats the reality
but some of our better players like Martin
Have been very ordinary. Anyway tonight shows that we have
too many deficiencies to be a contender. Making the 8 will be a good effort.
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Dumb dumb dumb hack footy all night. Deserved what we got! :banghead
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Brandon Ellis been fantastic tonight, showed the haters. Needed a few mates to help him out
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They have our measure and they know it. They
have too many guns for us and theyve proved it
Again and truth is even if we had Rance and houli and Caddy
theyd still beat us anyway.
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It's no surprise that Cox and Grundy become superstars against us. Should have been beaten by 12 goals tonight.
On another note, twice as many free kicks to them tonight. Just saying
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They are not the only ones. We have been terrible tonight. Unfortunately Collingwood are better than us. Thats the reality
but some of our better players like Martin
Have been very ordinary. Anyway tonight shows that we have
too many deficiencies to be a contender. Making the 8 will be a good effort.
Can't blame the loss of Rance either. We've butchered the ball all night. Got away with it against Carlton last week after 1/4 time but a good side like the Pies will make you pay. I would love to know the stat for scores to Collingwood from our turnovers. Reckon it will the bulk of their score.
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Brandon Ellis been fantastic tonight, showed the haters. Needed a few mates to help him out
LOL...should be playing reserves football.
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Apart from a half a dozen players all of our players are a poor mans version of all of theirs.
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Fm, umpiring, most free kicks for VS least free kicks for, umpires a disgrace..... just saying😢
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Brandon Ellis been fantastic tonight, showed the haters. Needed a few mates to help him out
LOL...should be playing reserves football.
Yeah, only had more disposals than any other Richmond player tonight. Under the pump all night
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Apart from a half a dozen players all of our players are a poor mans version of all of theirs.
Unfortunately there is alot of truth in that statement and people shouldnt be blaming the umpires. We were beaten by a better outfit thats all.
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Slowest football brain in the league. No vision, concept of time or awareness of players around him.
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Brandon Ellis been fantastic tonight, showed the haters. Needed a few mates to help him out
LOL...should be playing reserves football.
Yeah, only had more disposals than any other Richmond player tonight. Under the pump all night
No point getting the footy if you cant use it properly. He like most of our team tonight was poor.
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Is Grimes in trouble?
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I think lynch is showing really good signs. He will be a great player for us.
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This is embarrassing.
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Is Grimes in trouble?
Luckily Elliott got up, might be just a fine
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Brandon Ellis been fantastic tonight, showed the haters. Needed a few mates to help him out
LOL...should be playing reserves football.
Yeah, only had more disposals than any other Richmond player tonight. Under the pump all night
No point getting the footy if you cant use it properly. He like most of our team tonight was poor.
Sick of the double standards around here mate. Ellis had created multiple scores tonight by hard running off HB. Two in a row this quarter.
Lambert, Butler, Weller etc all been TERRIBLE. And you'll barely hear a word said against some...
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Is Grimes in trouble?
If he gets away with a fine he'll be very lucky. I love Grimesy and he has been one of our best tonight but that was dumb especially so late in the game when the result is over. Raised forearm is never a good look.
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Well done lads
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Brandon Ellis been fantastic tonight, showed the haters. Needed a few mates to help him out
LOL...should be playing reserves football.
Yeah, only had more disposals than any other Richmond player tonight. Under the pump all night
No point getting the footy if you cant use it properly. He like most of our team tonight was poor.
Sick of the double standards around here mate. Ellis had created multiple scores tonight by hard running off HB. Two in a row this quarter.
Lambert, Butler, Weller etc all been TERRIBLE. And you'll barely hear a word said against some...
I agree that Lambert Butler Weller and co. have been rubbish
so too jack graham and about 10 others tonight.
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Brandon Ellis been fantastic tonight, showed the haters. Needed a few mates to help him out
LOL...should be playing reserves football.
Yeah, only had more disposals than any other Richmond player tonight. Under the pump all night
No point getting the footy if you cant use it properly. He like most of our team tonight was poor.
Sick of the double standards around here mate. Ellis had created multiple scores tonight by hard running off HB. Two in a row this quarter.
Lambert, Butler, Weller etc all been TERRIBLE. And you'll barely hear a word said against some...
Looking forward to never seeing Ellis wearing the yellow and black again :clapping
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Our preseason wasn't great for me.To many players comfortable in that side to experienced to.
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The difference is that no one said that trio had a great game and deserved recognition.
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I hope a reporter asks dimma wtf the game plan he and his coaching staff came up with tonight and what they did after half time when they clearly saw it wasn’t working.
Nothing I hate more than when the coaches don’t make any adjustments when it’s so clearly obvious what’s wrong!
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Brandon Ellis been fantastic tonight, showed the haters. Needed a few mates to help him out
LOL...should be playing reserves football.
Yeah, only had more disposals than any other Richmond player tonight. Under the pump all night
No point getting the footy if you cant use it properly. He like most of our team tonight was poor.
Sick of the double standards around here mate. Ellis had created multiple scores tonight by hard running off HB. Two in a row this quarter.
Lambert, Butler, Weller etc all been TERRIBLE. And you'll barely hear a word said against some...
Looking forward to never seeing Ellis wearing the yellow and black again :clapping
Probably BOG :thumbsup
Inb4 'for collingwood herghaha' :bow
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Dustin Martin also terrible again tonight. On the big money but producing nothing at the moment.
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I see nothing in our game plan that Dimma has changed it up.
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The difference is that no one said that trio had a great game and deserved recognition.
It's not about people talking players it's up, it's about judging each player FAIRLY instead of scapegoating the same blokes over and over
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We got problems big midfield problems.
I think a lot of us knew this and we did not do much to rectify the issue
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Lets be honest outside of about 4 or so players the rest played like donkeys tonight. Not up to it and not good enough to go with the oppositionm
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Lets be honest outside of about 4 or so players the rest played like donkeys tonight. Not up to it and not good enough to go with the oppositionm
Exactly.
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It’s way too easy to crap on Ellis but for me there’s players ahead of him that need to be dropped.
Markov, Weller, BUTLER all need to go.
Astbury is on thin ice too.
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This is embarrassing.
Really poor how we faded away so badly in the last quarter. They were playing with us in the last 20 mins.
Final Score
Richmond 2.2 6.3 9.4 10.6-66
Coll'wood 3.2 7.3 12.4 17.8-110
Stats of the night:
Apparently 9 Tigers didn't have a tackle = we had too many passengers.
Uncontested possies: 135 - 308 = Collingwood owned the ball.
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I see nothing in our game plan that Dimma has changed it up.
It looked like Dimma planned for us to sit back and play on the counter to use a Soccer analogy. Problem was we butchered the ball all night and gave the footy back too easily with Collingwood players in free space. With the Pies controlling the ball all night we used a lot of energy chasing tail and faded badly in the end.
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There was a lot worse than Ellis out there tonight.
Weller-not sure what we were thinking there
Markoff-could he work as a forward?
Lambert-is he fit, he doesn't seem to be racking up the kms like we know he can. You'd drop him for Miles if we still had Miles
Butler-has to be dropped, would drop him for Lloyd if we still had Lloyd
Hardwick-wins the Danny Frawley award for bombing it long to full forward for the whole game.
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We got problems big midfield problems.
I think a lot of us knew this and we did not do much to rectify the issue
It was noticeable towards back end of 2018 clearances were big issue.
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We got problems big midfield problems.
I think a lot of us knew this and we did not do much to rectify the issue
It was noticeable towards back end of 2018 clearances were big issue.
The form or lack of it of Dusty, Lambert and Prestia has exposed the lack of depth even more.
Nank was well beaten too by Grundy.
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We got problems big midfield problems.
I think a lot of us knew this and we did not do much to rectify the issue
It was noticeable towards back end of 2018 clearances were big issue.
The form or lack of it of Dusty, Lambert and Prestia has exposed the lack of depth even more.
Nank was well beaten too by Grundy.
Agree! Someone said that our midfield is an issue? That is 100%!
Lack of spread!
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If you can hold the ball vs Tigers....you win.
Our entire forward pressure was undone by the Pies holding the ball with short kicks or switching play. Add ruck dominance at the centre clearance and you have an arse pumping on a platter
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No pressure all game, giving away loads of space. It's a shame our coaching staff didn't address this at quarter time. Especially painful watching Sidebottom running around for half the night unchecked again until KMac went to him.
Lots of poor players tonight, but some have credits in the bank. Sorry Assange but I agree that Ellis has well and truly run out of chances - squibs it repeatedly and has long since lost the kicking penetration he had as a kid, years ago.
Out:
Weller (thought we was depth only?)
Markov (not up to it, period)
Ellis (squib, trade)
Grimes (probably suspended)
Riewoldt (probably hairline # in wrist)
In:
Balta
Garthwaite
Chol
Ross
RCD
Time to blood some youth and find some midfield depth...
On a side note, big shame we didn't play Lloyd and Miles more in 2018 when we were clearly running out of puff... They'd sure be handy right about now!
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One of the most disappointing thongs for mome tonight was the finger pointing when something went wrong early in our defensive 50.
It happened 3 times in the first qtr, with one bloke doing the pointing twice after he had stuffed up.
No excuse for that
As for the MIAs
If anyone comes across Rioli, Butler, Lambert, Astbury to name a few can you please point them towards Punt Road Oval for match review tomorrow morning
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Big Davros loves a finger point. It's all he's been doing since mid 2018
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You could see in our two victories last year that Collingwood had the potential to trouble is.
Now they have gone past us.
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They look a level above us now. :shh
A lot of very worrying signs, too many to list at 2 in the morning.. :shh :shh
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https://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2019/2/rich-v-coll
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The Pies have moved on from copying us, to copying the Eagles possession game. Buckley is a genius.
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Still maintain Dimma and his crew to stubborn we have left of from last season back half of the year and changed nothing yet we thought Lynch would give us another dimension.Teans have worked us out and involved there game plan we look static.
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We rely too much on pressure. Pies didn’t allow us to play that and on days we don’t bring pressure we fail. Need to invest in more skilful players.
Stop recruiting based on how well they pressure, start recruiting talent
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This time last year we had an unconvincing win over Carlton and then got spanked by Adelaide even worse than last night so I think it’s a touch early to be ripping out the old doom and gloom lines like teams have worked us out, our game plan hasn’t evolved etc.
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This time last year we had rance, jack and teams weren't spreading us out as the last 2 have.
Signs don't look great
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This time last year we had rance, jack and teams weren't spreading us out as the last 2 have.
Signs don't look great
Do you remember the Adelaide game? Absolutely belted us.
We also had to come back from coughing up the first 5 goals against Carlton.
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This time last year we had rance, jack and teams weren't spreading us out as the last 2 have.
Signs don't look great
We would have lost this game with Rance. Our backline kept us in it.
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The new rules are against , they advantage sides who have completely invested in their midfields like Collingwood and Hockings Geelong
Richmond were poor last night and were out coached again
Richmond need to adjust and that’s why they invested heavily in bigger midfield, sadly the afl think they need to be anonther level of government and socially enigineer our us instead of just administrating the game
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Our tacking count was woeful, what were the free kick stats?
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Our tacking count was woeful, what were the free kick stats?
25-9 ::)
Hard to tackle when your allowing so many uncontested possessions.
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Our tacking count was woeful, what were the free kick stats?
25-9 ::)
Hard to tackle when your allowing so many uncontested possessions.
I assume that was collingwood way.
IIRC, pies had most free kicks for last season and we had the most against. It continues, the throw in the goal square end of the 3rd q was a momentum killer
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Our tacking count was woeful, what were the free kick stats?
25-9 ::)
Hard to tackle when your allowing so many uncontested possessions.
Worst bit about number
Is it was 4 to 3 in our favour at qtr time
So we had 5 more frees in 3 qtrs of footy
That beggars belief
I don't normally get on the blame the umpire treadmill
And they are by no means the reason why we lost but struth they were pathetic last night
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If you can hold the ball vs Tigers....you win.
Our entire forward pressure was undone by the Pies holding the ball with short kicks or switching play. Add ruck dominance at the centre clearance and you have an arse pumping on a platter
Absolutely spot on :clapping
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You can hold the ball vs Tigers....the umpires won't call it...
efa :shh
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You can hold the ball vs Tigers....the umpires won't call it...
efa :shh
Yep, we’ve got to stick our tackles, shades of 2016 about the tackling last night.
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stuff all shepherding too...was pre-17 Richmond all over..... :shh
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Why wouldn't you go man on man, or our blokes not up to it
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Compared to Collingwood Our midfield is quite hopeless and the last two games have proved this.
Martin is not playing at the same standard we have come to expect and struggles hopelessly with the tight tag. Cotchin was MIA and when he did get the footy was pretty much ineffective as the Pies were all over him like flies on poo. Lambert was vfl standard at best and Prestia was taught a footy lesson like most others he was nowhere to be seen in the last quarter. Graham isn’t an effective tagger and doesn’t get the footy enough to be equally an effective midfielder.
Simply our midfield must lift because the way they are performing at the moment I can’t even see them winning a midfield battle against the bombers.
A lot to do to get that pressure mojo back to the levels we’ve come to expect.
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Nankervis can't ruck against the best, all he can do is try to nullity them.
If he can't nullify them they get the clearance and this year we can't stack our backline.
Hardwick says we wont play two genuine ruckmen it is not how we play.
Now Jack is down for four weeks maybe we can play Nanks and Soldo out of full forward.
Soldo may not be as effective around the ground but will not get beaten in the middle very often.
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I’m not sold on Soldo. :rollin
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I’m not sold on Soldo. :rollin
You'd rather see more of Moore?
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I’m not sold on Soldo. :rollin
You'd rather see more of Moore?
:rollin
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Collingwood's domination of the ruck and clearances killed us as did their mid size forwards. The kicking into the forwardline was woeful and played into the hands of their defence. More worrying was our inability to get hands on the ball and inability to force them to kick to a contest. Missed Caddy how long is he out for ?
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1. The Tigers need to get their mojo back
Richmond wrote a premiership blueprint based on pressure. The Tigers in 2017, on their way to the flag, were manic and played with an intensity around the ball that was unmatched. They also carried that into 2018, before stumbling in the preliminary final. But that tenacity was missing on Thursday night against Collingwood, with Richmond registering only 33 tackles for the game. The Magpies laid 60, and also had far more of the ball (467 disposals to 303). There were six Tigers who didn't lay a tackle, and another 10 who could manage just one, with all of a number of their small forwards – Daniel Rioli, Mav Weller, Jason Castagna and Jack Higgins – in that boat. The Tigers aren't looking themselves at the start of 2019, and getting their pressure back will be a big factor in returning to form.
- Callum Twomey
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-31/nine-things-we-learned-from-round-two
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How Buckley dismantled the Tigers' manic press
Pinidu Chandrasekera
theRoar.com.au
1 April 2019
It’s been two nights since the Pies notched their first win of the 2019 campaign against a fellow premiership fancy, but the implications of how they ran away 44-point winners could have a telling impact in the coming weeks.
Much has been made of whether Alex Rance’s absence was to blame for the Tigers disappointing showing, overshadowing another fascinating talking point to emerge from Thursday night’s contest.
But before we get to that, just in case you’ve spent the last nine days without power, internet connection or any Australian newspaper, last Thursday the country was suddenly thrown into abject disarray as five-time All Australian defender Alex Rance tragically succumbed to a knee injury in the battle-hardened trenches at the MCG’s Punt Road end.
It is without a doubt the single biggest tragedy mankind has laid its eyes on since a rather large ship ran into an iceberg on a frosty night back in 1912.
If you need to take a moment to process the news, please do. Word on the street is that offices around the country were understaffed last Monday morning, as thousands of workers took a long weekend to ease themselves into this new reality.
My view on the matter is quite simple. While I’m not disputing Rance’s importance to the Tigers’ set-up, the manner in which the Pies played on Thursday night would have nullified his impact regardless.
Same goes for Bachar Houli.
The Tigers’ defence has a heavy reliance on zone defending. Their ideal scenario being to block up the space inside their defensive 50 to force their opponents to kick the ball long down the line.
The decision to go down the line to a three vs three or even four vs four contest is a mini-win for the Tigers, as this is the most effective situation for Rance to intercept and launch a counter attack from halfback.
Even in his absence, the Tigers strength of defending as a group was demonstrated on the rare occasions when the Magpies midfield was forced to go down the line.
The likes of Dylan Grimes and Nick Vlastuin would compete in the same pack, with both able to either enforce a spoil to take the ball out of play, or intercept and launch an attack.
But Buckley came prepared.
Collingwood’s modus operandi was to deprive the Richmond back line of a chance to work as a unit through zone defence.
As soon as the Pies were able to clear their defensive 50, they were more than happy to be patient.
Chipping the ball meticulously across halfback, changing the angles to cut into the midfield or switching to the fat side of the ground to shift the Tigers defence.
The stats paint an incredible story. Collingwood winning the mark count by a remarkable 78-174, and of the 174 marks they took on the night, only 15 were contested.
Tom Langdon, Jack Crisp, Jordan Roughead and Jeremy Howe finished the night with a whopping 50 marks between them, almost three quarters of the Tigers total count.
However, Collingwood’s game-plan wasn’t purely designed to counter the Tigers defence.
They were able to execute this style of play that was a far cry from the centre corridor running machine which propelled them into last year’s grand final, because Buckley now has the key personnel to implement it.
The returning Darcy Moore has barely put a foot wrong in the first two games, and added with the shrewd acquisition of Jordan Roughead, the duo give the Magpies the sort of defensive height that was so desperately needed to match the Eagles’ talls in their grand final loss.
Not only that, but the Pies midfield boasts an array of gut-running wingmen.
Much is said and written about the Pies midfield brigade but the outside run of Steele Sidebottom, Chris Mayne and Tom Phillips is just as crucial as the class of say Scott Pendlebury, Dayne Beams and Adam Treloar.
Without the hard work of these outside midfielders to find space on the wing and switch from one side of the ground to the other, the back line would be pressed in and constantly under pressure without an easy outlet.
Even ruckman Brodie Grundy was able to assist in the transition, finding space on the wing in a manner which his opposite number Toby Nankervis just couldn’t emulate.
On the other side of the coin, this was the type of game plan which rendered the Tigers small- to medium-sized brigade relatively useless.
Richmond’s trademark throughout the last 24 months has been its manic pressure.
A ruthless ability to swarm forward with quick handball chains, grubber kicks and a level of intensity which saw the opposition under intense pressure.
But this style of play relies on one fundamental element which the Tigers were missing on Thursday night: tackling.
Despite having 164 more disposals, the Magpies doubled the Tigers tackle count, which read 33-60, with eight Richmond players failing to lay a single tackle on the night.
By keeping the ball off the ground, the Tigers’ fleet of medium-sized half backs and half forwards were forced onto the back foot.
For players like Daniel Rioli, Dan Butler, Jack Graham, Mav Weller and Jason Castagna to have an impact, they needed to change the dynamic of the game to a fast-paced handball fest.
And naturally, the amount of time spent shifting between either side of the ground as the Pies raffled the ball across half back paid its toll.
The Tigers’ defenders were isolated inside their defensive 50, caught in one-on-one contests and unable to defend as a unit – a recipe for disaster when trying to nullify the strength of Jordan De Goey or the height of Mason Cox.
Perhaps Thursday’s game might have been an early Christmas gift to the rest of the competition.
Buckley’s game plan forced the Tigers to defend man-to-man, deprived them of the football, and rendered their small-medium sized brigade ineffective.
It was truly an all-of-the-above approach.
What impact this will have on the Tigers opponents is yet to be seen.
But with GWS, Port Adelaide, Sydney and Melbourne to come, all of whom possess the ability to replicate Collingwood’s game plan, we won’t have to wait long for the answer.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/03/31/how-buckley-dismantled-the-tigers-manic-press/
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KB's view:
The Pies took 174 marks for the game, 96 more than Richmond, and Bartlett said he was surprised that style undid the Tigers, when they used to have an answer for it.
“They did (lack an intensity),” Bartlett told SEN’s The Curtain Raiser.
“I’ve always felt when Hawthorn played that style of play and were winning premierships, Richmond played pretty well against Hawthorn in that period.
“Somehow they closed up Hawthorn, put a lot of pressure on Hawthorn and caused turnovers.
“I just thought last night when Collingwood started playing that Hawthorn-style of game, it would suit Richmond, but they were so far off the pace in terms of putting pressure on the Collingwood players.
“The skill level of Collingwood was pretty good. They actually played keepings off with the Tigers.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/03/29/tigers-off-the-pace-says-bartlett/
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Coaches votes (Hardwick & Buckley)
RICHMOND v COLLINGWOOD
9 Scott Pendlebury (COLL)
6 Jack Crisp (COLL)
6 Chris Mayne (COLL)
5 Jordan De Goey (COLL)
3 Brody Mihocek (COLL)
1 Adam Treloar (COLL)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-01/aflca-votes-round-two-gun-cat-soars-five-players-get-10