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Title: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 20, 2019, 04:26:55 PM
Fire away with your changes, if any?
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on July 20, 2019, 04:39:01 PM
In: Nank

Out: Soldo

I like baker in our 22 but I’m not sold on playing him down back.
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Andyy on July 20, 2019, 04:50:03 PM
Baker was great imo. Can play almost anywhere.

Soldo solid but Nank too much upside. If Nank gets through the game tomorrow I'd have him in elsewise keep Soldo another week...
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: georgies31 on July 20, 2019, 04:56:05 PM
Crazy to drop Soldo Grundy kills Nank always in ruck duals Soldo has to stay.
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Andyy on July 20, 2019, 05:17:04 PM
Crazy to drop Soldo Grundy kills Nank always in ruck duals Soldo has to stay.

Agreed. Gives you less around the ground but he's much bigger and probably better for Grundy. Nank should just be allowed to run into form for a couple of weeks...
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: torch on July 20, 2019, 05:29:40 PM
IN

Nankervis, Caddy

OUT

Soldo, Short or Graham
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: pmac21 on July 20, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
Out Baker
In Caddy

Keep the ruck setup unless it's wet. 
Soldo must play against Grundy
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Andyy on July 20, 2019, 05:45:41 PM
In:
Caddy

Out:
Short
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 20, 2019, 06:32:39 PM
INS: Nank, Caddy

OUTS: Choi - only because he looks stuffed. Think he needs a rest. Plus coming up against Grundy, think Soldo is a better option at the moment
Baker
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 20, 2019, 06:48:06 PM
INS: Nank, Caddy

OUTS: Choi - only because he looks stuffed. Think he needs a rest. Plus coming up against Grundy, think Soldo is a better option at the moment
Baker

Don’t agree very often
But your on the money here
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Diocletian on July 20, 2019, 06:53:23 PM
Chol ahead of Slomo every day of the week and twice on match days..... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 20, 2019, 07:16:18 PM
Chol isn’t a back up ruckman as we saw today
Did look tired
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Diocletian on July 20, 2019, 07:39:16 PM
Grundy will smash whoever we play....at least Chol is agile, can move and can potentially jump over Cox....Nankervis & Soldo in the same side will just make us too slow and cumbersome... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: big tone on July 20, 2019, 07:50:20 PM
Grundy will smash whoever we play....at least Chol is agile, can move and can potentially jump over Cox....Nankervis & Soldo in the same side will just make us too slow and cumbersome... :shh
You couldn’t play Nank and Soldo in the same side ever!

Soldo goes out when Nank comes in- pretty simple
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Owl on July 20, 2019, 08:07:52 PM
they got done good by GWS today
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 20, 2019, 08:56:21 PM
From Dimma post-game on potential changes.

Caddy, like ruckman Toby Nankervis – who will play half a game in the VFL on Sunday – and demoted utility Kamdyn McIntosh, will be strongly considered for selection for Friday night's clash with Collingwood.

Source: AFL website.

Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Andyy on July 21, 2019, 09:00:47 AM
Have to say the Baker drops are interesting. I thought he was very good from where I was sitting. Might watch the replay and reserve judgment for the moment but that was my take...
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 21, 2019, 06:33:31 PM
Nank and Caddy got through VFL
Ins next week Nank , Caddy and McIntosh
Outs Chol , Baker and Short
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Diocletian on July 21, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
Jack clearly doesn't like the side being quick.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: JP Tiger on July 21, 2019, 07:16:25 PM
I wouldn't be too quick to bring Nank back after playing a half in the VFL.  Let him gain some match hardness & some body confidence in the two's before throwing him up against opponents like Grundy.  While it would be awesome to knock the Filth out of the top four this week, we will get other chances to do that later.  I'd be happy to wait for September, get them on the G & then destroy them in front of a million viewers!     :santa

Besides, I'm really enjoying watching Chol grow into the role!    :gotigers   
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Slipper on July 21, 2019, 09:01:44 PM
I don't see any obvious changes, other than to say that those at the game would have a better idea on Chol needing a rest than me, who only saw the game on TV.

But I don't see Nank on half a game in the VFL as an obvious inclusion. If Chol is tired, I seriously look to bring in Balta and try to get him to run Grundy around the ground.

Caddy and McIntosh won't lose anything spending another week in the VFL.
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: big tone on July 21, 2019, 09:26:39 PM
I don't see any obvious changes, other than to say that those at the game would have a better idea on Chol needing a rest than me, who only saw the game on TV.

But I don't see Nank on half a game in the VFL as an obvious inclusion. If Chol is tired, I seriously look to bring in Balta and try to get him to run Grundy around the ground.

Caddy and McIntosh won't lose anything spending another week in the VFL.
Balta’s injured
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Diocletian on July 21, 2019, 09:33:35 PM
Balta was back playing VFL today... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: big tone on July 21, 2019, 09:49:56 PM
Balta was back playing VFL today... :shh
Cheers

How did he go?

Just checked the VFL thread and it looks like he went ok.

Is there a spot for him in the senior side this year?
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 21, 2019, 09:57:05 PM
Balta was back playing VFL today... :shh
Cheers

How did he go?

Just checked the VFL thread and it looks like he went ok.

Is there a spot for him in the senior side this year?

No
Was ok today without being Brilliant
Very hesitant on many occasions
Looks tired.
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: big tone on July 21, 2019, 10:05:54 PM
My Ins and Outs for the Collingwood game

Outs- Soldo, Bellis (Short lucky)

Ins- Nank, Markov
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 22, 2019, 09:33:20 AM
Any chance the coaches have caddy come in to run with Brodie and somehow curtail his influence?

I ask this because of what Hardwick mentioned during the press conference although I didn’t see much of the reserves game except the first quarter where I thought  Markov looked pretty lively up forward. Nank was very hungry in that first quarter looks like he’s ready to come back in.

Can anyone shed some light on the role Caddy was playing in the reserves and is there any chance he might be used to mitigate Brodie’s influence considering our lack of “fit” rucks endurance wise?


Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: lamington on July 22, 2019, 10:43:01 AM
I think we have to keep Chol to not allow Cox to easily mark the ball down the line when they need a Hail Mary exit kick out of D50. If Nank is fit he comes in for Soldo.
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 22, 2019, 01:02:34 PM
With a five-day break between the VFL match and Richmond's AFL clash with Collingwood, Caddy sat out the final quarter, finishing with 18 disposals and six marks in the 14-point win.

It's not the only selection quandary facing the Tigers, after Toby Nankervis made his long-awaited return from a serious adductor injury.

The club's No.1 ruckman had missed nine weeks, and so played the first half of the VFL on managed minutes.

Coming up against a powerful duo in Jonathon Ceglar and Marc Pittonet, Nankervis had 13 hitouts, eight touches, three tackles and a goal.

He moved well, but it would be a big step up from one half in the VFL to a full match against All Australian Brodie Grundy.

After a surprise omission from the seniors, Kamdyn McIntosh did not play, with an eye to the tight turnaround between the VFL and AFL.

In the AFL win over Port Adelaide, the Tigers played Jack Graham and Kane Lambert on one wing in McIntosh's absence, with Brandon Ellis holding the opposite side.

Usual half-back flanker Oleg Markov has spent the past few weeks up forward in the VFL and finished with a four-goal haul.

Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-22/revealed-the-role-change-behind-flag-tigers-vfl-stint-)
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 22, 2019, 01:05:50 PM
FULL STRENGTH TIGERS SET TO SINK CLAWS INTO PIES

Michael Randall
-TOBY PRIME
Herald-Sun
22 July 2019


Richmond could have its best 22 available for Friday night’s blockbuster against Collingwood as premiership pair Toby Nankervis and Josh Caddy loom as inclusions.

Nankervis resumed from an adductor injury in the Tigers’ VFL 14-point win against Box Hill Hawks yesterday and finished with 13 hitouts, eight disposals and a goal.

He sat out the second half and came through the run at Box Hill City Oval unscathed.

It was Nankervis’s first game since the Round 8 win against Fremantle and he could be recalled to curb the influence of Collingwood ruckman Brodie Grundy.

“From what we saw he looked like he was ready to play, particularly early,” Tigers VFL coach Craig McRae said.

“His tackle pressure and his contest … it looks like he got through the game OK.

“I know the directive was for him to play a half to give him every chance to be able to put himself up to be selected.

“It looks like he has done that part, now it’s up to others to decide if that’s the case.”

Caddy sat out the last term after collecting 18 touches in a midfield role. He was best afield in last weekend’s win over Werribee when he had 26 disposals and kicked two goals.

Caddy looks to be well over the leg injury that forced him out of the Round 16 triumph against Gold Coast.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-daily-live-rolling-footy-news-from-around-australia-for-july-22-2019/live-coverage/b8eca7103c7822f5d3787519f413226e
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 22, 2019, 01:19:50 PM
How can we have our best 22 available when Rance isn't available  :huh3
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2019, 12:57:40 AM
Richmond, meanwhile, will not necessarily bring back Toby Nankervis for the game after just half a game in the VFL following a nine-week absence due to adductor injury, with the Tigers having to weigh up whether Nankervis is ready to take on Brodie Grundy.

The Tigers have to make a call not only on Nankervis, but also on whether they can find a spot for Josh Caddy, who had been a cornerstone of the front half until a combination of injury, younger players grasping their opportunity and team balance has seen him remain in the VFL for a few games.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/elliott-expected-back-stuff-a-show-nankervis-no-cert-20190722-p529no.html


The media are saying Collingwood are looking at bringing in Goldsack, Scharenberg, Elliott & Thomas. Doubts on Cox as apparently he is sore while Dusty won't have to worry about Greenwood (hammy).
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2019, 02:52:30 PM
In the Mix: Round 19

Sarah Black
afl.com.au
23 July 2019


RICHMOND

Get them in: Interesting times at selection for Richmond. Josh Caddy played in a defensive wing role and only for three quarters, given the five-day break between the VFL and AFL. Toby Nankervis played a half in the VFL in his return from an adductor injury, while Kamdyn McIntosh did not play at either level with the quick turnaround.

Under the pump: It was an excellent team performance by the Tigers, although raw disposal numbers may have been boosted by some over-handballing. With Nankervis edging closer to a return, Ivan Soldo may struggle to hold his spot. Liam Baker struggled at times in his new role behind the ball but looked better as the match progressed.

Medical room: No injured players are closing in on a return at AFL level, although mid-season recruit Marlion Pickett (finger) is a chance to play his first game for the club in the VFL.

Verdict:
If 'Nank' is right to take on Brodie Grundy, Soldo should make way given Mabior Chol's ability forward. McIntosh having the week off indicates he's likely to come back in, with Jack Graham potentially the unlucky one. Baker for Caddy if he's picked to return.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-23/in-the-mix-whos-pushing-for-selection-in-round-19
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: big tone on July 23, 2019, 10:42:46 PM
All I ask for Friday night is we play someone on Sidebottom.
Graham, Lambert or even McIntosh could do it if he comes back in.

He is their barometer IMO.

I understand Dimma backs our system in but there is nothing wrong with taking away their best player as well.
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on July 23, 2019, 10:56:00 PM
Just saw on channel 7, cotchins wife expecting any day now. May miss the pies game if she happens to go into labour on Friday.
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 23, 2019, 11:48:13 PM
Induce her then press a few buttons

What's the issue

Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Rampsation on July 24, 2019, 08:20:50 AM
This time she needs to produce a boy.
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: pmac21 on July 24, 2019, 01:48:05 PM
Don't care as long as it's a boy
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 24, 2019, 03:00:04 PM
Collingwood v Richmond

Jamie Elliott is seemingly ready to return for Collingwood and could give the Magpies another avenue to goal.

The Pies will likely want another key defender to help deal with Tom Lynch and Jack Riewoldt. Tyson Goldsack and Matt Scharenberg would have to be in the frame.

All eyes will be on Toby Nankervis for the Tigers after one game back in the VFL. Ivan Soldo would make way if he is ready to go.

Josh Caddy has also pushed for selection after a couple of weeks in the VFL, while Patrick Naish, Oleg Markov and Derek Eggmolesse-Smith were also impressive.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/07/23/four-club-captains-morris-nankervis-headline-potential-ins-for-round-18/
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 24, 2019, 06:53:17 PM
Mark Stevens on Ch 7 news just said Nank won't be playing for the seniors on Friday night.

Goldsack not playing for the Pies either. Scharenberg, Elliot & Thomas are expected to come in. Cox won't be one of the ones Collingwood drops.
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 25, 2019, 11:09:33 AM
Caddy won’t play either
Emergencies will be Butler , Oleg , Naish and either Short or Baker
McIntosh will be the only in
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: one-eyed on July 25, 2019, 12:09:26 PM
Teams: Tigers sweat on Cotch baby watch

Glenn McFarlane,
Herald Sun
25 July 2019


Richmond remains hopeful captain Trent Cotchin will be right to play in Friday night’s massive game with Collingwood despite the impending birth of his third child.

But ruckman Toby Nankervis won’t be taking on Magpie ruckman Brodie Grundy, with the Tigers opting to give him extra game time in the VFL.

Cotchin’s wife Brooke is due to have the couple’s third child early next week.

“There is always a chance that these things happen but it is what it is … at this stage he (Cotchin) is playing and we’ll work our way through that if something changes,” Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said.

“He’s in the side at this stage, not sure exactly when it (the birth) is going to happen obviously. But we hope he gets through the game like he did last week.”

Hardwick said the Tigers didn’t want to risk Nankervis after his one game back in the VFL after a long injury lay-off.

“He won’t play, he’ll have another half at VFL level,” he said.

“He missed a large chunk of game time and it was a pretty significant injury, especially in the ruck.”

“We will get him through another game and then assess it the week after.”

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-teams-round-19-see-all-the-ins-and-outs-for-this-weeks-games/news-story/e5b7f8b0eebf862d37572475e694517b
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 25, 2019, 07:42:13 PM
Caddy won’t play either
Emergencies will be Butler , Oleg , Naish and either Short or Baker
McIntosh will be the only in

It hasn't come to pass  :rollin
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Andyy on July 25, 2019, 08:15:53 PM
Fingers crossed Cotch has a boy finally!
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 26, 2019, 12:40:42 AM
Caddy won’t play either
Emergencies will be Butler , Oleg , Naish and either Short or Baker
McIntosh will be the only in

It hasn't come to pass  :rollin

I thought Caddy played for North :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Pies game?
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on July 26, 2019, 04:56:45 AM
Caddy won’t play either
Emergencies will be Butler , Oleg , Naish and either Short or Baker
McIntosh will be the only in

It hasn't come to pass  :rollin

Well there was only 26 that trained yesterday and the 22 from last week and Oleg , Butler. Naish and McIntosh trained 🤔