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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: pmac21 on June 12, 2020, 10:39:13 PM
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Surely Burgoyne gets a week.
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Round 3
RICHMOND vs Hawthorn
Thursday, 18 June (7:40 pm) @ the M.C.G.
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Surely Burgoyne gets a week.
You'd think so, there were two motions, and it was very dangerous.
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If the Hawks beat us with that patchwork, rabble of a team, I'll spew up.
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If the Hawks go with the same slow lumbering tall side and set-up, we'll destroy them at ground level with our speed and quick ball movement.
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We were pretty bad on thursday so anything can happen. I expect we'll win but we are a long way of our nest.
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We were pretty bad on thursday so anything can happen. I expect we'll win but we are a long way of our nest.
True but we played a Collingwood side that smacked the Dogs in round 1. After quarter time, our team defence strangled the Pies and we were on top in general play. If we do that from the start and not gift the opposition a 4 goal head start :banghead then we can control the match and it will force the Hawks to have to open up and attack to chase the game. Hopefully, we'll work this week on the quality of our F50 entries and connection as that was crap on Thursday night. It cost us the win.
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Burgoyne escapes with a fine - must've received the "Richmond next match" discount.... ::)
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The tribunal has always been biased and inconsistent. I think its hotage to public opinion as well as internal politics. With petty revenge popping up every year and big names getting off scott free. You can almost see the kangaroos bouncing around inside when the players walk out to face the media.
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Burgoyne escapes with a fine - must've received the "Richmond next match" discount.... ::)
BLM
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:shh
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Burgoyne escapes with a fine - must've received the "Richmond next match" discount.... ::)
But Paddy flopped like Fosbury
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Burgoyne escapes with a fine - must've received the "Richmond next match" discount.... ::)
BLM
My thoughts exactly TBH.
Tackle was a disgraceful act.
Any tiger would cop 2-3 weeks for that.
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Burgoyne escapes with a fine - must've received the "Richmond next match" discount.... ::)
But Paddy flopped like Fosbury
Pretty obvious this one of those rare occasions where he actually didn't... :shh
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Burgoyne escapes with a fine - must've received the "Richmond next match" discount.... ::)
BLM
My thoughts exactly TBH.
Tackle was a disgraceful act.
Any tiger would cop 2-3 weeks for that.
He should have got at least a week. Last season that is a week minimum
But I am wondering with a reduced season are thry going to lessen penalties.
Think it is wrong if they are but wondering
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Once again the MRO judging an incident on the injury outcome rather than the act itself. Burgoyne is lucky Dangerfield got up and played on. Another player could do the exact same sling tackle next week but if it results in a concussion then they'll get suspended. There would also be a "good bloke/champion" factor like Ablett getting off last year.
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The AFL has today changed the 'dangerous tackle' rules. So Burgoyne would've got a week if they were in place last Friday night.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/449920/afl-statement-amendment-to-afl-tribunal-guidelines
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Hawthorn are expected to regain gun midfielder Jaeger O'Meara for Thursday night's game against 2019 premiers Richmond, as the club seeks to atone for a performance they feel was out of character.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/gunston-backs-patton-to-learn-the-hawthorn-way-20200615-p552ku.html
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Here is your full preview to Round 3.
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theRoar.com.au
16 June 2020
Richmond vs Hawthorn
Round 3 kicks off with what threatens to be a one-sided clash when Richmond faces Hawthorn at the MCG on Thursday night.
The Tigers will be filthy for falling behind early against Collingwood in Round 2, conceding four goals in the first quarter while failing to score one themselves.
They were left to play catch-up for the rest of the evening, and eventually forced a 5.6 (36)-all draw – the teams’ first drawn match against each other in over 100 years and the lowest-scoring AFL men’s match since 1999.
Still, it was enough for the Tigers to stretch their undefeated run past twelve months, the club’s most recent defeat being against the Adelaide Crows at the Oval on June 13 last year.
On Thursday night they’ll start hot favourites to defeat a Hawthorn side that was nothing but insipid in its 61-point loss to the Geelong Cats at GMHBA Stadium last Friday night.
The Hawks were put on the back foot early, and while they managed to at one point claim the lead in the second quarter and were only behind by six points at halftime, collapsed in a dismal second half to lose by ten goals in their first appearance at Kardinia Park since 2006.
Coach Alastair Clarkson labelled his side as “fourth-rate” and it has all but become clear that the club has become a shadow of the team that was the most dominant side of the past decade, in which they won three flags from four grand final appearances.
Veteran Shaun Burgoyne should consider himself lucky to play given he escaped with only a fine for his dangerous tackle on 250-gamer Patrick Dangerfield.
Recent history is against the Hawks, who have lost their past four against the Tigers dating back to late-2017. That said, the Tigers should unleash their frustration on them after being denied a 14th consecutive victory by way of a draw against the Pies.
Prediction: Richmond by 30 points.
https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/06/16/2020-afl-season-round-3-preview/
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Hawthorn will field the oldest team in AFL/VFL history against Richmond at the MCG on Thursday night.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/hawthorn/hawthorn-to-field-oldest-team-in-vflafl-history-when-it-takes-on-richmond-in-round-3/news-story/af35d27b8deb8d288432f3c362b54024
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View from the opposition:
The strength of the Tigers... and where we could get 'em!
By hawthornfc.com.au
18 June 2020
There's no shying away from it, the task confronting Hawthorn on Thursday night is one of the toughest assignments in football at the moment.
Taking on Richmond at the MCG, a venue which has become a fortress for Damien Hardwick's side throughout its current dynasty.
But what makes the Tigers so great? What has helped them win two of the last three premierships? What are their key strengths?
The Tigers are tenacious, that is their brand.
They chase, harass and run, both with the ball and without it.
They have recorded more tackles than their opponents in 19 of their last 27 outings, despite losing just six of these games.
Their running power is also overwhelming, winning the running bounces count in all bar four of these matches.
This pressure helps them kick winning scores - they've lost just 18 of their past 76 games.
But there is a chink in their armour that might take you by surprise.
Richmond won the clearance count just five times across 25 games in the 2019 premiership year.
And, with Dustin Martin out of the Round 3 clash, that presents a further opportunity for the Hawks to hone in on this area.
Martin is the Tigers' number one inside 50 deliverer, and ranked in the top two for clearances, contested possessions and goals for the club in 2019.
Meanwhile, the Hawks will regain Jaeger O'Meara to its midfield stocks, a man that himself ranked in his side's top two for disposals, clearances, tackles and contested possessions last year.
The midfield battle is always an important factor in football games but it seems it will be a deciding factor on Thursday night.
https://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/718576/the-strength-of-the-tigers-and-where-we-could-get-em-
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So they really do not know anything about us.
We lose the clearance and we set up a kick away to force the turnover. Money for jam
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Got to be switched on right from go as hawks will come out after last weeks disappointment.Take the game on and play it on our terms and use our speed to open them up.Focus on better forward delivery to.No exuses without Martin. I think we will better of after last week's run.
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Puopolo out for Hawthorn.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/454257/final-teams-triple-premiership-hawk-a-late-out
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Low percentage stuff Prestia doing the volley from there.
Pickett nice pass to Bolton 30 out directly in front. Misses a gettable shot :P.
1 - 0
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Bolton a poor set shot. Almost as bad as George.
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Razor pays them a free directily in front. It was there technically but let's see if Lynch and Jack get the same.
1 - 6
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First goal to Hawks
Soft free but there
Shocking miss by Bolton BTW
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A couple of ordinary contests by Stack. Coughed up the ball off a bump at HB and then got outpositioned by Wingard.
1 - 12.
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Hmmm
:banghead
Did Houli just pull out of a contest there?
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We're off again like last week. Hearing footsteps (Short and Houli dropping high sitters).
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Our skills are deplorable, and we look soft as butter!
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Another poor kick Shai.
They rebound for another.
1 - 18
Asleep again :banghead
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Kicking is terrible.
High and long into the F50 like the tigers of old. Very poor kicking.
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Here we go again
Flat as pancakes
Though no idea what the 50 was for
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Our skills are deplorable, and we look soft as butter!
Hawthorn have come to play and we haven't.
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Here we go again
Flat as pancakes
Though no idea what the 50 was for
Protected area.
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Gunston on his own
Fair dinkum we are playing clueless footy again
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How was that advantage? Ross was in the process of kicking.
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Ross is poo
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Everything we could do wrong, we’re doing wrong.
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How was that advantage? Ross was in the process of kicking.
He should have stopped
No crowds, no excuse not to hear the ump. They are paying advantage alot with no crowds
Just have stop and hold
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Playing one ruckman isn't working. Lynch as a part-timer tapping the ball into the corridor in defence :facepalm.
1 - 24
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What’s Stack doing?
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Playing one Rickman isn't the issue
It is the ruckman we are playing sadly
Soldo's limitations around the ground are showing up
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Stack another two poor pieces of play.
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Another bad error by Bolton
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Starting to feel we are cooked and it's not even qtr time
We look shocking
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Honestly I'm about ready to turn it off.
Disgusted. They look slow and soft......
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Playing one Rickman isn't the issue
It is the ruckman we are playing sadly
Soldo's limitations around the ground are showing up
We're aren't winning at the stoppages either. We're getting smashed and there's no genuine second ruck to swap Soldo out.
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Crap kick by Riewoldt
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How horrible is this?
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Playing one Rickman isn't the issue
It is the ruckman we are playing sadly
Soldo's limitations around the ground are showing up
We're aren't winning at the stoppages either. We're getting smashed and there's no genuine second ruck to swap Soldo out.
Agree but Lynch as 2nd option is wrong
I'd actually use Caddy to give us the extra mid
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How many passengers are out there. Castagna, Rioli, Higgins. No wonder we cannot kick goals.
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Again Pickett goes th bump
Where is my fork?
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Get Stack and Pickett the F out of our side
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That's 5 errors by Stack in just this 1st qtr.
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Quarter time
Richmond 0.1-1
Hawthorn 5.3-33
One word: Pathetic!
We haven't played this soft since that St Kilda game at the Dome in 2017.
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Stack Pickett Ross look like they've never played footy before.
Stack should ride the bench for the rest of the game.
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Again Pickett goes th bump
Where is my fork?
Pickett isnt our best 25 players he shouldnt be playing.
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Love the long kicking game into our forward 50 when they've got 5 talls up there.
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Stack Pickett Ross look like they've never played footy before.
Stack should ride the bench for the rest of the game.
Stack been terrible as well.
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Dusty and Baker missing meant the likes of Stack, Pickett and a couple of others were lucky to get a second chance this week. Not the week to have another shocker. Ross hasn't played well since he came back from injury last year. Mind you it's hard to find a Tiger that isn't playing poorly tonight. Lazy and soft!
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Ross isnt a best 22 player either. How he is playing in front of Balta and Dow escapes me.
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Tigers of old this....soft & weak at the contest, falling off tackles, no composure or smarts , appalling skills ...and a slow & completely useless ruckman who doesn't appear to know which team he's on....... :shh
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Did anyone else notice Soldo trying to leave a mark for another player and he still let it hit him in the chest accidentally... lol you can’t make some of this poo up.
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Where is the changes for next week thread.
Stack out
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Made hard work of it. Jack's centering kick favoured no one. 1-2 between Lynch and Bolton (who goals).
Rich 1.1-7
Haw 5.3-33
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Was that Pickett again who just cost us a goal
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We are in massive trouble
Such an easy reply
:banghead
And this has NOTHING to do with no Dusty
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Arrogant, selfish play by Pickett hands them a goal. Enjoy your last game in the AFL!!!
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They get it straight back. Too easy.
7 - 39
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Percentage football just doesn't seem to agree with Pickett.... :shh
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Another bomb into the F50 :scream :banghead
Lynch and Jack R have no chance
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Picketts not up to it. Got lucky with his selection in gf and rode on the coat tails of an easy team victory over gws.
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What's with all the lazy bombing all the time? :banghead
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I just saw Rioli
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We are very ordinary. Theyll flog us tonight.
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I just saw Rioli
But he isn’t as hurtful as Stack at the moment.
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Another freebie ruck contest to them and they go the length of the ground :banghead. Lucky to not punish us again.
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I just saw Rioli
But he isn’t as hurtful as Stack at the moment.
True only because he hasn't touched the ball
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We are done
Can't see an amazing comeback from here
Disgraceful effort so far
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We miss Nank.
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Dumb footy, Bolton. Keeping it in when you were outnumbered and under pressure :facepalm.
Another gift.
7 - 45
Can we forfeit? We're playing like it.
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We look like a bottom 4 team lol
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Hmmm
:banghead
Did Houli just pull out of a contest there?
Unfortunately I think yes WP. Was it near the boundary line?
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Hopefully hardwick brings in balta dow an coleman jones next week this is shocking.
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Have we played together before? :facepalm.
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We look unfit.
Actually Slow.
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Why wasn't that in the back to Higgins?
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Time for a rebuild
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Signs were there last week with the lack of pressure and it's only got worse.
So slow and stagnate
6 goals in 6 quarters wtf is that?
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Was just saying the same thing. No hard running to create numbers.
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Ceglar is an OK ruckman he is looking like Gawn and Grundy tonight
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We’ve got some scared players out there.
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Why do we keep handballing to a stationery Soldo?
Struth
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Even Sheds is way off. Worst game in about a decade for him.
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Soldo making Ceglar look like Polly Farmer
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Reiwoldt’s body language and work ethic is pee weak.
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Why do we keep hamdballing to a stationery Soldo?
Struth
He doesn't man up so he is always free ;D.
Sorry but I had to laugh at how bad this is otherwise I'll be doing more of this :banghead.
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Finally a bit of ..are...hmm.. luck
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Pickett ducked the head a few times tonight
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Lucky goal to Sheds. Hawk defender was trying to punch that through and it went to straight to Sheds.
Rich 2.1-13
Haw 7.3-45
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Soldo making Ceglar look like Polly Farmer
Yep
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Don't wanna see soldo play again until he actually deserves it in the vfl
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We’ve kicked 7 goals in our last 6 quarters.
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Just disgraceful till half time. We have players in this team who are reserve grade players.
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That is the most pathetic, disappointing display we've witnessed on a long long time
I can't use the word effort because there hasn't been any
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Anyone with money on us to win the premiership, cash out NOW
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Don't wanna see soldo play again
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Pickett couldnt take a mark uncontested without dropping it a few minutes back.
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Half-time
Richmond 0.1 2.1-13
Hawthorn 5.3 7.3-45
Goals: Bolton, Edwards.
How did we par that quarter? :o About the only positive :P.
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Don't wanna see soldo play again
Ball was bouncing between his legs he couldnt even pick it up lol.
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Can Ross lose the Banik look and stop playing like him too.
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Castagna, zero touches and tackles!
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10 tackles for the half.
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We can't win without Martin unless Edwards plays well...:shh
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I still think we will come back a bit but the following players should be very nervous:
Stack
Pickett
Rioli
Castagna
Soldo
Ross
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Seems too many Tigers were living off premiership pudding over the lockdown. Not willing to do the basics and do them well :P.
Two weeks in a row an opposition wingman is left on his own and has 20 disposals by half-time. Sidebottom last week and Isaac Smith tonight.
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Castagna and Rioli OMG... Just spectating.
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Is it me or do we only seem to have half the numbers out on the park. Outnumbered at every contest and look like we are running through treacle and they can do no wrong. We are so far off it's not funny, not sure if it's preparation or attitude but vision behind the play is showing up a number of players which won't go unnoticed by the coaches.
Hardwick needs to remind them that you have to continue to work hard, we are the hunted again this year so need to cope with the additional pressure but not helping is that our skills over the last two weeks have been nothing short of abysmal.
Clarkson would have worked on this gameplan, media talk during the week questioning their tall backline, well we are just kicking it to them at every opportunity, dumb footy all around.
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I still think we will come back a bit but the following players should be very nervous:
Stack
Pickett
Rioli
Castagna
Soldo
Ross
What about Jack? Absolutely pathetic :thumbsdown
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Can Ross lose the Banik look and stop playing like him too.
I'd take Macca Banik right now. He didn't shirk a contest and tackled
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We are out numbered because our players are bludging.
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Cotchin, Higgins, Vlastuin & Grimes the only blokes having a red hot go.... :shh
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We know this group of players is good enough. The last few years have proven that. So what is going wrong ? Just effort ? Did we just get lucky being able to play soldo last year ? Was Pickett's GF game really just a one off ?
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10 tackles for the half.
An indictment. It's a pathetic enough stat on its own let alone when we've been second to ball all night.
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Our forwards are flat out sleeping.
Where’s the work rate.
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It starts in the middle. Soldo being smashed as are the mids. No run, not tackling, pathetic handballs and crap kick to a non existent forward line... :help
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Who’s on Smith. Talk about unaccountable.
Whoever it is should be looking at a few weeks with the twos thinking about life.
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Cotchin, Higgins, Vlastuin & Grimes the only blokes having a red hot go.... :shh
Agree.
Our whole back six was better in the second quarter. Only reason the scoreboard isn't even worse.
It may be harsh given what he went through to come back and he is having a go tonight but the knock on Higgo is he butchers the ball by foot.
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Dumb footy all around gifts them another.
13 - 51
No comeback tonight.
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Think we've gone overboard with just trying to tap it on
Also, the number of hanballs that have gone to bloke under pressure is staggering
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Soldo spoils Higgins :banghead
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Soldo you dopey git. You don't crash into Higgo backing back taking the mark and spoil him :facepalm.
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Caddy shot from the boundary floats to the square and rushed.
14- 51
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Soldo spoils a sure Higgins mark in the 50, and runs over the top of him
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Frustration from playing poorly is now leading to ill-discipline. That's about our 3rd 50m given away. This is late 80s/early 90s crap.
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Very simple not switched on and waiting for things to happen way to many passengers.Effort is poor to be honest leaving to others.The 2 rucks worked for us last year short quarters or no I wouldn't change a winning formula.
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Soldo is totally clueless tonight.
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This is dead set embarrassing.
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where do you start tonight? I can handle a loss but this is disgusting
who has actually played good?
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All over now....
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We have zero contested marking power around the ground.
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where do you start tonight? I can handle a loss but this is disgusting
who has actually played good?
Vlastuin
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Good to see us being carved up by a bloke who shouldn't even be playing this week.... >:(
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Pickett is in the ruck. This is ridiculous 😡.
Match committee is on crack.
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Missing targets by hand and foot.
Simple chest marks dropped.
Soft one-arm broken tackles.
Look very slow because we are unaccountable.
You name it. We're making every footy sin tonight.
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We have zero contested marking power around the ground.
While the most promising contested mark we've had for years and an actual footballer is stuck in reserves playing scratch matches...because, you know, "Ivan Soldo is such a great story".... :shh
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OMG we actually got a goal (Lynch).
Rich 3.2-20
Haw 10.3-63
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Pickett is in the ruck. This is ridiculous 😡.
Match committee is on crack.
Dimma pre-game actually said we would use Pickett in the ruck tonight :help.
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Bolton finds Jack 35 out. Misses.
21 - 64
Sting out of the game. Hawks' pressure has dropped away.
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To many missing out there hiding and blugging simple.
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Again poor selfish option Stack.
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All I can say now is hopefully this is just a wake up call we needed.
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Pickett is in the ruck. This is ridiculous 😡.
Match committee is on crack.
Dimma pre-game actually said we would use Pickett in the ruck tonight :help.
Absolute joke decision. Deserve to lose when your taking the pee. Play 2 Ruckman!! Aarggh!!!
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3/4 time
Richmond 0.1 2.1 3.3-21
Hawthorn 5.3 7.3 10.5-65
Goals: Lynch, Bolton, Edwards.
Can we at least save some percentage in the last because it's going to cop a massive whack at this rate.
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Stack has read too much of his own publicity, needs to get back to basics and stop trying to get on the highlight reel. Won't play next week and shouldn't play for a while.
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Pickett is in the ruck. This is ridiculous 😡.
Match committee is on crack.
Dimma pre-game actually said we would use Pickett in the ruck tonight :help.
Absolute joke decision. Deserve to lose when your taking the pee. Play 2 Ruckman!! Aarggh!!!
There is absolutely no point in playing soldo and nank. That is clear now. Nank has to come in for soldo next week no doubt about it.
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All over now....
It was over half way through the 2nd
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Again poor selfish option Stack.
Yes but at least Stack has had the courage to not drop his head and he is taking the game on. Shameful effort tonight by the tiges
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Stack has read too much of his own publicity, needs to get back to basics and stop trying to get on the highlight reel. Won't play next week and shouldn't play for a while.
At least Stack is getting his hands on the ball.
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Pickett is in the ruck. This is ridiculous 😡.
Match committee is on crack.
Dimma pre-game actually said we would use Pickett in the ruck tonight :help.
Absolute joke decision. Deserve to lose when your taking the pee. Play 2 Ruckman!! Aarggh!!!
How about playing 1 ruckman not a bollard.
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Pickett is in the ruck. This is ridiculous 😡.
Match committee is on crack.
Dimma pre-game actually said we would use Pickett in the ruck tonight :help.
Absolute joke decision. Deserve to lose when your taking the pee. Play 2 Ruckman!! Aarggh!!!
Soldo have been so bad tonight he should be dropped and we'll need to bring in both Nank and CCJ.
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Stack has read too much of his own publicity, needs to get back to basics and stop trying to get on the highlight reel. Won't play next week and shouldn't play for a while.
How can you single out just Stack. At least he is having a far crack and trying to create run from defence....
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Says it all that all our top 3 disposal getters are all defenders.
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Stack has read too much of his own publicity, needs to get back to basics and stop trying to get on the highlight reel. Won't play next week and shouldn't play for a while.
At least Stack is getting his hands on the ball.
Spot on. A few should be ashamed of themselves
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Stack has read too much of his own publicity, needs to get back to basics and stop trying to get on the highlight reel. Won't play next week and shouldn't play for a while.
How can you single out just Stack. At least he is having a far crack and trying to create run from defence....
Bad choices. Bad execution. That's how you single him out.
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This is the first time I've said this but gee we are missing Rance
Why?
Because Vlastuin and Grimes are having to do the Rance role plus their own. When so many are missing in action this means we are missing their collective rebound
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LOL. George finally shows up and then kicks a pearler from the boundary with a drop punt :o.
Rich 4.3-27
Haw 10.5-65
Comeback on :lol
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Lynch misses a sitter from 20 out :P.
Sums up our night.
28 - 65
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Stack has read too much of his own publicity, needs to get back to basics and stop trying to get on the highlight reel. Won't play next week and shouldn't play for a while.
How can you single out just Stack. At least he is having a far crack and trying to create run from defence....
Bad choices. Bad execution. That's how you single him out.
I agree he is not the only one but he is the standout " doesn't play next week"
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That sums up our night
:banghead
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Have a look at who’s not getting a possession , not good enough in so many ways
Not the Richmond way
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Having said that where was this quick play and supporting run an hour and half ago ::).
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George :banghead
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George :facepalm. Another chest mark dropped by us tonight.
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Our game plan relys on hardwork and effort without it were back in the pack seen none of it today.
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That's better George.
Rich 5.4-34
Haw 10.5-65
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6 goals in 9 minutes
I don't think so
Broad in the ruck = better than Soldo or Pickett
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Only Cotch could kick that on his non-preferred while slipping over.
Jack marks. Another set shot miss. 3 goals gone begging this qtr :banghead.
35 - 65
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Rioli has to be dropped
No intensity, practically no effort.
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Another miss (George).
2.5 from set shots. We didn't deserve it but we could have been only 10 points down if we kicked straight :banghead.
36 - 65
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Rioli has to be dropped
No intensity, practically no effort.
Yep. One of those lucky to survive last week due to injuries to others.
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All of a sudden, you feel like straight kicking could’ve won it for us.
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That’s dropping the ball.
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Even the umps are having a shocker. That was an ordinary decision.
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Sums up the night. They only need one chance to kick a goal.
36 - 71
ps. terrible umpiring. Wingard just dropped that before he was taken to the ground.
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Wingard even gave himself up and still got the free.... ::)
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Make that 2.6 from set shots and those 6 behinds were gimmes :banghead.
37 - 71
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Higgins set shot for goals are very average
But he's been our best forward tonight
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Could've, should've but didn't have 7 goals this quarter with all the sitters we've missed.
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And another miss (poster to Caddy).
::)
39 - 71
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Well....that was shyte.... :shh
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This is really a rubbish performance. When Chad Wingard is pulling ur pants down that tells the story really. Smith getting possessions at will. Truly terrible game.
Lacklustre, disinterested, no pressure, poor work rate, poor accountability.
Is it the loss of Caracella? Our ball movement is terrible. Fitness looks poor.
Our run and carry non existent.
Our forward line are the worst culprits as there is virtually no pressure in the ball carrier especially from our forwards. Practically no tackling intensity at all.
Clearly it’s between the ears. No one willing to stand up and work hard.
Very poor.
If the hawks were fourth rate last week we looked fifth rate
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Final Score
Richmond 0.1 2.1 3.3 5.9-39
Hawthorn 5.3 7.3 10.5 11.5-71
Goals: Castagna 2, Lynch, Bolton, Edwards
Got what we deserved. Only turned up for the last quarter when the game was done.
Pathetic and mostly uncompetitive for three quarters.
10 goals in total and none in first quarters across two games. Every opposition is going to be studying both games but for us it starts with workrate and getting back to basics.
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This is really a rubbish performance. When Chad Wingard is pulling ur pants down that tells the story really. Smith getting possessions at will. Truly terrible game.
Lacklustre, disinterested, no pressure, poor work rate, poor accountability.
Is it the loss of Caracella? Our ball movement is terrible. Fitness looks poor.
Our run and carry non existent.
Our forward line are the worst culprits as there is virtually no pressure in the ball carrier especially from our forwards. Practically no tackling intensity at all.
Clearly it’s between the ears. No one willing to stand up and work hard.
Very poor.
I had the caracella thought. But it can't be as simple as that, surely. Although all 3 games this year have been very ordinary
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Our forward line is a rabble. If Jack and Lynch don’t take marks we can’t kick a score. There isn’t a lot of talent, creativity or scoring capacity in our small forwards.
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Yep starts last 2 weeks have killed us to slow of the blocks.Get back to basics hunt the footy work for each other to many passengers that's our game plan if we do otherwise we loose.Get 2 rucks in to.
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Interesting to see how many changes we make next week. Can't be too many when the 2s are only having Micky 🐁 games.
Must make some though
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5 out our top 6 possession getters were defenders. Not their fault. Mids were horrible but our forwards were worse. Time for a few changes to put a rocket up some.
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Let's hope this is the moment we change our mindset for season 2020.
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Let's hope this is the moment we change our mindset for season 2020.
Have to hope
Surely it can't get any worse :-\
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Our game plan for the first three quarters was straight out of 2016, only in the last quarter did we try to move the ball quickly.
We really miss Blake.
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Slow and unfit.
Were they complacent over the last few months? Figured they'd show up and just keep winning?
Work rate is deplorable.
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First time in almost 60 years (since 1961) that we have failed to kick a goal in the first quarters of consecutive games.
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl-richmond-tigers-goalless-first-quarter-first-since-1961-history-112852591.html
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Thursday night game suck when you play poorly and lose.
Bring on next Saturday
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Beaten up badly in the midfield which meant even when we went inside 50 it was via poor disposal and decision making given we were under pressure. Hawk defenders could easily intercept wayward bombs which stifled our tall forwards and nullified our small forwards (who were ordinary as well).
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Thursday night game suck when you play poorly and lose.
Bring on next Saturday
Sucks even more when you have a few days off work (extra long weekend).
I'm like the players were at the start of the game..
Extra long weekend and I'm as flat as a pancake
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So does anyone know who was supposed to be playing on Smith?
I didn’t see Pickett much on the screen so was it him?
Whoever it was should be ashamed of themselves.
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So does anyone know who was supposed to be playing on Smith?
I didn’t see Pickett much on the screen so was it him?
Whoever it was should be ashamed of themselves.
It was Graham for a while. Not a wingman
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Played wet weather footy in dry conditions...overdid the cute little tap-ons & soccer kicks sans the run, Pace & pressure required to back it up which just made it look soft, dumb & lazy....also can't help wondering if the lack of crowds are adversely effecting our energy levels...also harder to wear teams down in shorter games.... :shh
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I don’t want to single out 1 player as most were poor but if soldo plays next week I watched a different game to the coaches......
Says it all that broad came in for 10mins at the end and was our best ruckman.
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I've liked Broad whenever I've seen him play ruck...admittedly more for his follow up work than his actual ruck work... :shh
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When Short dropped a sitter after hearing footsteps from Patton, and seconds later Houli short armed it with Patton bearing down again, I knew it wasn't going to be a good night.
That and our forwards not getting near it, while Tim O effing Brien got his hands to almost everything early.
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I am getting close to starting up the NO EXCUSES thread soon
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Played wet weather footy in dry conditions...overdid the cute little tap-ons & soccer kicks sans the run, Pace & pressure required to back it up which just made it look soft, dumb & lazy....also can't help wondering if the lack of crowds are adversely effecting our energy levels...also harder to wear teams down in shorter games.... :shh
^^^^^ this
Have been wondering myself what if any impact no crowds is having
The obsession of tapping the ball on rather than grabbing it is hurting us big time. I get that it is how we like to play but right now it isn't working.
So IMV there are more times than not that taking possession knowing you are going to get tackled immediately would work better as we get a stoppage, reset and go again.
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It's never going to be your night with your superstar full forward is missing them from 15 meters out.
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It's never going to be your night with your superstar full forward is missing them from 15 meters out.
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You can say that again.
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You can say that again.
Good to see you of the politics threads
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If we don't get a Hawks like response next week then were in big trouble.
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All my richmond mates reckon our players dont care about this season. Covid, shorter quarters, longer breaks, no crowds. Its like our players dont give a poo. Bring on 2021.
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David King said on 3AW: “If you wobble Richmond … if you can lay a punch or two on the Richmond Football Club, you’ve gotta knock them out.
“Collingwood didn’t knock them out last week … the Hawks didn’t give them the same chance.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-coach-damien-hardwick-puts-heat-on-tigers-for-poor-start/news-story/4d57e728b01e9820e9754a94222b2a48
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Round 3 Report Card
Foxsports
22 June 2020
RICHMOND
For the first time in over a year, Richmond was beaten; and at the MCG, no less. If we’re honest, the Tigers never looked like themselves on Thursday night, with the Hawks running past defenders described as “turnstiles” by St Kilda champion Nick Dal Santo on Fox Footy’s coverage. A team that averaged 104 points in the finals last season has now kicked just five goals in consecutive weeks. Obviously not having Dustin Martin hurt, but this was otherwise a full-strength side. Something has to be wrong.
In the votes
It’s never a good sign when your leading disposal getters are all defenders. Bachar Houli (25 disposals, six marks), Nick Vlastuin (22 disposals, six marks) and Dylan Grimes (18 disposals, seven marks) were forced into action all night and did about as well as could be expected; they gave up 16 scoring shots and recorded 14 themselves, which doesn’t sound quite as bad as the night looked. Only Trent Cotchin (18 disposals, three clearances) stood up in the midfield.
Room for improvement
Where do we begin? That frantic pressure that has become a hallmark of this side was missing all night; far too often the Hawks just ran through the Tigers. Then there was the ball movement, which was mostly non-existent. Far too often the Tigers were caught plodding their way down the ground as Alastair Clarkson’s boys flooded back and set up a tight defensive structure. On the few occasions the ball actually did get to the forward line, the Tigers made a mess of it, hacking kicks into intercept defenders or in one particularly poor moment watching Tom Lynch miss from the top of the goalsquare. Jack Riewoldt and Ivan Soldo were the lowlights.
Grade
D-
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-report-card-round-3-2020-afl-analysis-every-club-graded-best-and-worst-performers-best-on-ground-votes/news-story/72929d3d1db15acab0856ef019feffc5
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D-
That was being gracious
F- should have been the rating
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No surprise no Tigers in the coaches votes.
Richmond v Hawthorn
10 Jaeger O'Meara (HAW)
8 Isaac Smith (HAW)
6 Jonathon Ceglar (HAW)
3 Ben McEvoy (HAW)
3 Chad Wingard (HAW)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/456458/coaches-votes-r3-rising-sun-does-it-again-port-star-still-leads