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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 30, 2022, 06:39:07 PM
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AFLW ROUND 2
RICHMOND v Adelaide
Saturday, 3rd September @ Swinburne Centre, Punt Road Oval
Start time: 11.40am AEST
Broadcast:
The Round 2 clash will be broadcast live on Fox Footy from 11.30am AEST, it will also be live streamed on the AFL Women's app.
Ticketing:
Tickets to this match are available via Ticketmaster (https://www.ticketmaster.com.au/2022-nab-aflw-season-7-richmond-v-adelaide-richmond-03-09-2022/event/13005D01DB882ABE).
All Gates open: 10.40am
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1210695/aflw-game-day-hub
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This could get ugly
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This could get ugly
As a spectacle it’s a certainty
No “could” about it
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I'll give it another crack this week.
AFLW have a free hit to play exciting footy styles from yesteryear, but instead they play boring, system-based, modern tripe which they don't have the skills and fitness to execute anyway. That's my biggest knock on it. I also think they need to de-select all players who are obviously overweight and/or don't go remotely hard at the contest, otherwise it's incredibly difficult to take it seriously. (If they don't take themselves seriously, I don't see why I should.)
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I'll give it another crack this week.
AFLW have a free hit to play exciting footy styles from yesteryear, but instead they play boring, system-based, modern tripe which they don't have the skills and fitness to execute anyway. That's my biggest knock on it. I also think they need to de-select all players who are obviously overweight and/or don't go remotely hard at the contest, otherwise it's incredibly difficult to take it seriously. (If they don't take themselves seriously, I don't see why I should.)
Agree with all of that (except for the another crack part)
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I’m having trouble watching it with the dangerous tackle umpiring, about 90% of the frees given are malarky
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Richmond AFLW vice-captain Sarah Hosking will this Saturday become the first Tiger player to reach the 50-game milestone.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1212769/sarah-hosking-to-become-first-aflw-tiger-to-reach-50-games
:clapping
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In: Jess Hosking, Maddy Brancatisano
Out: Sophie Molan, Sarah D'Arcy
Hosking returns after serving a two-match suspension handed to her in Round 9 last season, while Brancatisano is back after missing Round 1 due to Health and Safety Protocols.
Richmond AFLW team
B: Bec Miller Libby Graham
HB: Eilish Sheerin Bethany Lynch Jess Hosking
C: Tessa Lavey Sarah Hosking Kate Dempsey
HF: Ellie McKenzie Maddy Brancatisano Meagan Kiely
F: Gabby Seymour Courtney Wakefield
R: Poppy Kelly Monique Conti Grace Egan
Int (from): Katelyn Cox Stephanie Williams Stella Reid Maddie Shevlin Emelia Yassir
Emg: Kodi Jacques Meg Macdonald Jemima Woods
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1212779/aflw-tigers-make-two-changes-for-crows-clash
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Shame Brennan couldn’t get up for this we rally need her leadership.
Some good changes made. Good to Jess back, the Hosking girls are tough as nails and put the body on the line. Brancatasino is very capable at getting the ball and her tackling is very good.
D’Arcy was very disappointing last week she’s actually capable of better than that.
Molan no, she’s just no good at this level.
As much as I don’t like Molan, at least one thing you can’t say about her is that she’s unsighted which is unfortunately what Reid was again last week. She really needs to involve herself more in games. She’s very young but I’m hoping for some improvement from her this year. Hopefully she shows something this week.
I’d like to see McKenzie used more in the guts and centre forward much like Dusty is utilised.
I’d like to see more from Poppy Kelly in the ruck.
Gabby Seymour is just getting better and better and is becoming one of my favourites in the team.
Despite last weeks disaster i think there is improvement in the list so I’m expecting an improved performance this week vs Adelaide on our home deck :gotigers
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Congratulations to Sarah Hosking playing her 50th game.
Great achievement and its amazing how good she is for someone so new to the game really not having played it until she was 20. A real natural.
She’s really an improved player and a heart and soul type that leads by example. Real future captain material IMO.
Hopefully the girls give their all for her this week and cause an upset. :gotigers
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"Tricky" conditions according to the commentators.
Wakefield two shots two misses.
2 - 0
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Yet Adelaide go coast to coast for a set shot goal.
Not so tricky for them apparently ::).
2 - 6
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Another to them.
But we respond straight through and run and carry from the wing. Yassir goals :gotigers.
Rich 1.2-8
Adel 2.0-12
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Yassir does well again to get it to the square. Wakefield does better off the ground for goal :gotigers
Rich 2.2-14
Adel 2.0-12
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Quarter time
Richmond 2.2-14
Adelaide 2.0-12
Goals: Wakefield, Yassir
Good intensity so far.
Umpiring up to its usual confusing standard.
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Live stream: https://www.womens.afl/match-centre/2022/4657/rich-v-adel
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Stats to 1/4 time:
Egan 5
Conti 4
Brancatisano 4
S.Hosking 4
Lavey 4
McKenzie 4
Yassir 4 plus a goal
Disposals: 50 - 66 .... ( contested: 33 - 29 )
Clearances: 4 - 4
Inside 50s: 11 - 5
Tackles: 12 - 22
Hitouts: 3 - 5
Frees: 6 - 3
https://www.womens.afl/match-centre/2022/4657/rich-v-adel#teamstats
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Ellie to Dempsey out of the middle and Kelly marks at HF. We go sideways to Conti. Long kick and Wakefield takes a strong mark in the pack 25 out. Importantly nails the set shot. Goal :gotigers
Rich 3.2-20
Adel 2.0-12
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Poor defence. Stoppage in the Adel F50 and no Tiger protecting the goalsquare.
20 - 18
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Lynch good tackle at HF wins the HTB free. Goes inside 50 and Kiely marks 30 out. Set shot falls shot and Kelly marks by the point post. Doesn't want the shot and it's stuffed up :facepalm.
Got to take our chances. We're dominating inside 50s but not scoring.
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Half-time
Richmond 2.2 3.2-20
Adelaide 2.0 3.0-18
Goals: Wakefield 2, Yassir
The ball spent the whole quarter in our forward half but we couldn't turn it into a score. Really should be at least 3-4 goals up.
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The girls are up and about early. Fighting hard for a win hopefully they can keep it up all game.
I like the look of Egan again she’s been really good as has Sheerin.
McKenzie has been involved but I’d like her to kick more as she’s more damaging by foot despite what happened last week.
Hosking is just a bull. I’ve been impressed with Kiely this half.
Gabby not getting it all her way but hopefully she gets more reward for her hard work.
I think the girls are deadset on a win against the premiers.
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18 more inside 50s (4 times as many as the Crows) yet we're only two points up :P.
Stats to 1/2 time:
Disposals: 108 - 109 ..... ( contested: 57 - 61 )
Clearances: 7 - 14
Inside 50s: 24 - 6 ...... this is not a misprint.
Marks in50: 8 - 3 ...... so many kicks haven't made the distance from 35-40 out.
Tackles: 33 - 33 ..... we had 21 tackles in that 2nd qtr.
Hitouts: 10 - 13
Frees: 10 - 4
Conti 11
Egan 9
McKenzie 9
S.Hosking 8
Dempsey 7
Cox 6
Lavey 6
J.Hosking 5
Lynch 5
Sheerin 5
Wakefield 5 plus 2 goals.
Brancatisano 4
Yassir 4
Miller 3
Reid 3
Seymour 3
Shevlin 3
Graham 2
Kelly 2
Williams 1
https://www.womens.afl/match-centre/2022/4657/rich-v-adel#playerstats
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Good forward pressure and the Crow defender's kick is marked by Kiely 30 out. Again another set shot that can't make the distance and it's off hands.
21 - 18
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Wowee Adelaide player jumps on the footy in the goalsquare and doesn’t get it out but no free kick. :banghead
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We need to clean up our forward fifty entries.
I’ve counted about a minimum 15 HTB against Adelaide but umpires just won’t pay it when they clearly drop the footy. :banghead :banghead
Then Cox gets one against her and she actually hand balled the footy :banghead :banghead :banghead
It’s a bloody joke.
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Finally someone can kick a long goal. Great kick on the run from Shevlin :gotigers.
Rich 4.3-27
Adel 3.1-19
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Brilliant. :gotigers
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3/4 time
Richmond 2.2 3.2 4.3-27
Adelaide 2.0 3.0 3.1-19
Goals: Wakefield 2, Yassir, Shevlin
35 inside 50s to the Crows 10.
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Stats to 3/4 time:
Disposals: 160 - 172 .... ( contested: 75 - 84 )
Clearances: 12 - 20
Inside 50s: 35 - 10
Marks in50: 9 - 4
Tackles: 48 - 45 ..... we've had 23 tackles in our F50.
Hitouts: 14 - 20
Frees: 14 - 10 ..... 4 to 6 that qtr.
Conti 22
Lavey 16
Egan 13
McKenzie 12
S.Hosking 10
https://www.womens.afl/match-centre/2022/4657/rich-v-adel#playerstats
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Sarah Hosking out of the middle goes long. Kelly's second effort wins the HTB free 30 out. Another kick that doesn't make the distance. No score :scream.
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Playing like a side that doesn't know how to win this last qtr. Mistakes and poor decision making galore :facepalm.
27 - 28
Only got ourselves to blame if we lose this.
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C’mon girls. Don’t think just do! :gotigers
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Another goal to them for our mistakes :banghead.
27 - 35
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:help :banghead
We can’t hit the side of a barn from 30 metres and the smallest girl in their team hasn’t ever kicked a goal has just slotted two :banghead
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Who coaches this rabble. Just turned it on.
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Lost by 9 after a scoreless last qtr.
Pathetic! Sorry that's a disgraceful loss.
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Final Score
Richmond 2.2 3.2 4.3 4.3-27
Adelaide 2.0 3.0 3.1 5.6-36
Goals: Wakefield 2, Yassir, Shevlin
Nearly twice as many inside 50s and lose :banghead.
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We can't win games if we can't score with 4 times the inside 50s :banghead. We have so many who can't kick over a jam tin especially in front of the sticks. How do you make the top level if you can't even make the distance from 30m out? :help
The only way we scored goals was on the transitional break where we got out the back rebounding from D50. Any traditional F50 entry with opposition numbers in D50 and it's just hack it and hope Auskick style. We don't lower the eyes because we have too many who can't kick from beyond 20 out and that's ignoring accuracy :help.
Feel sorry for Conti trying to carry this side :(.
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We missed Brennan up forward.
Maybe we do need a couple fatties in our team.
That big chick down back for them (Biddell?) was excellent just gobbled up all our i50 entries one after the other.
Then they had another little fatty up forward (Ballard?) that kicked two massive goals in the last gifted to her by Miller when for some reason gave her the ball lace out twice. :help
These bigger girls can still be mobile but aren’t easily shoved over like some of ours.
Anyway our forward entries were ridiculous.
It was excellent endeavour and pressure but our skill execution by foot is so bad it’s embarrassing.
The girls need investment into the program. Skills coaches are essential.
A real vflw program were the youngsters can learn properly in a professional environment and not getting thrashed mercilessly each week in Port Melbourne. :banghead
With all the rhetoric I really don’t think we as a club are taking the Woman’s league seriously enough and that’s to the detriment of every girl that puts their heart and souls into the team to play in our jumper.
It’s a disgrace and the girls should be getting better by being treated seriously.
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Team Stats:
Disposals: 198 - 222 ..... ( contested: 93 - 109 )
Kicks: 119 - 144
Handballs: 79 - 78
Clearances: 16 - 30
Inside 50s: 38 - 20
Marks: 9 - 5
Tackles: 63 - 59
Hitouts: 23 - 28
Frees: 17 - 13
Individual possies:
Conti 26
Lavey 19
Egan 16
Miller 14
S.Hosking 13
McKenzie 13
Dempsey 11
J.Hosking 10
Kiely 9
Sheerin 9
Brancatisano 7
Cox 7
Shevlin 7
Lynch 6
Seymour 6
Wakefield 6
Reid 5
Kelly 4
Yassir 4
Graham 3
Williams 3
https://www.womens.afl/match-centre/2022/4657/rich-v-adel#playerstats
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We can't win AFLW games with Kelly and Reid as key forwards. One can't kick 25m and the other can't get a kick whilst letting her opponent dominate
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Why we continue to try and defend a 1 goal lead with 10 mins to go does my head in
Just like the men found a way to lose.
Club is 3 from 3 this week in unforgivable losses
Who coaches this rabble. Just turned it on.
Ryan Ferguson, former mens AFL development coach. Got the gig when afl soft cap was slashed. Was a way of keeping him at the club
The girls need investment into the program. Skills coaches are essential.
A real vflw program were the youngsters can learn properly in a professional environment and not getting thrashed mercilessly each week in Port Melbourne. :banghead
With all the rhetoric I really don’t think we as a club are taking the Woman’s league seriously enough and that’s to the detriment of every girl that puts their heart and souls into the team to play in our jumper.
It’s a disgrace and the girls should be getting better by being treated seriously.
I've deliberately removed your comments about "fatties". Don't think body shaming is necessary. Seriously hope you and a few others don't have daughters. Don't think you realise the damage comments like that can do
On your actually point about bigger bodies, I actually agree. There is a place and a need .
But on our women's program and your point there. Totally agree 100%
The damage being done in the development of our young players is plain to see. The alignment is not working and it is embarrassing
I've asked a few times when will be getting our VFLW team again and keep bring told when the AFLW soft cap increases. I find this staggering.
We are spending the entire cap. On what is what I want to know
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Are we serious about this comp or what? Recruit some decent players and get a decent coaching group.
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Are we serious about this comp or what? Recruit some decent players and get a decent coaching group.
We have decent players
Our best 6 are 6 of the best in the comp
The next 6 are good players
Then we drop away and that's in part to having no VFLW side
You just need to look at our men's program and how much our development improved once we got our VFL side
Same would happen here
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AFLW Tigers overrun by Crows
By Sarah Black
AFL Media
3 September 2022
RICHMOND 2.2 3.2 4.3 4.3 (27)
ADELAIDE 2.0 3.0 3.1 5.6 (36)
GOALS Richmond: Wakefield 2, Yassir, Shevlin Adelaide: Ballard 2, Woodland, Prowse, Martin
BEST Richmond: Conti, Egan, Lavey, McKenzie, S.Hosking Adelaide: Hatchard, Biddell, Marinoff, Randall, Ballard
INJURIES Richmond: Nil Adelaide: Nil
Reports: Nil
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Richmond AFLW were overrun by a fast-finishing Adelaide by nine points on Saturday at the Swinburne Centre.
The 5.6 (36) to 4.3 (27) loss consigns Richmond to a 0-2 start, having absolutely dominated nearly every facet of the game for the first three quarters in a heartbreaking loss.
Skipper Chelsea Randall played three quarters in the middle before being moved to half-forward, and the rejigged and more mature Crows outfit subsequently unsettled the Tigers, wresting control after the ball had lived in the home team's half.
Courtney Wakefield kicked two behinds early but the Tigers spearhead found the middle soon enough, booting two.
Richmond absolutely dominated territory in the first half, recording 24-6 inside 50s, with Adelaide backs Sarah Allan, Chelsea Biddell, Marijana Rajcic and Brooke Tonon defending grimly to hold the Tigers to only a two-point lead at the main break.
The third term was a torrid struggle, and it looked as if Adelaide was going to make Richmond pay for its inability to convert its dominance to scoreboard pressure, until defender Maddie Shevlin streamed forward to slot a running goal from 45m.
The small forwards from both sides enjoyed the work of the talls, with Emelia Yassir and Rachelle Martin snapping truly in the first half.
Monique Conti (26 disposals, five clearances) thrived going head-to-head with the likes of Anne Hatchard (26 and six) and Ebony Marinoff (22 and 11 tackles) in a star-studded midfield battle.
A tale of two teams
The match was a contrast in styles, with Richmond eager to lock the ball in its attacking half and aiming to get the ball forward at all costs with run, carry and pure chaos. By contrast, Adelaide wanted to control play with a kick-mark uncontested method. At one point in the third term, Richmond had 23 tackles inside 50 to zero, but poor disposal in its attacking zone and outstanding defence kept the Crows in the game.
Up next
Richmond will host Hawthorn at the Swinburne Centre on Sunday.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1213641/aflw-tigers-overrun-by-crows
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(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f4f9.png) Hear from Ferguson after today's loss to the Crows:
Watch here: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1213705/aflw-r2-ferguson-post-match
"We took it up to the reigning premier and showed what we're capable of, but they showed us how you can play big moments well and take your opportunities."
Doesn't sound like Katie Brennan will be back anytime soon either :-\.
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Why we continue to try and defend a 1 goal lead with 10 mins to go does my head in
Just like the men found a way to lose.
Club is 3 from 3 this week in unforgivable losses
Who coaches this rabble. Just turned it on.
Ryan Ferguson, former mens AFL development coach. Got the gig when afl soft cap was slashed. Was a way of keeping him at the club
The girls need investment into the program. Skills coaches are essential.
A real vflw program were the youngsters can learn properly in a professional environment and not getting thrashed mercilessly each week in Port Melbourne. :banghead
With all the rhetoric I really don’t think we as a club are taking the Woman’s league seriously enough and that’s to the detriment of every girl that puts their heart and souls into the team to play in our jumper.
It’s a disgrace and the girls should be getting better by being treated seriously.
I've deliberately removed your comments about "fatties". Don't think body shaming is necessary. Seriously hope you and a few others don't have daughters. Don't think you realise the damage comments like that can do
On your actually point about bigger bodies, I actually agree. There is a place and a need .
But on our women's program and your point there. Totally agree 100%
The damage being done in the development of our young players is plain to see. The alignment is not working and it is embarrassing
I've asked a few times when will be getting our VFLW team again and keep bring told when the AFLW soft cap increases. I find this staggering.
We are spending the entire cap. On what is what I want to know
Spot on WP. It’s a disgrace. Ask them how kangaroos can afford a vflw program as well as field a competitive AFL team.
PS. On the issue of fatties I was joking around as well as saying they were hard to stop. I reckon in the girls game you need some Plugger types especially up forward.
And yes I have 3 daughters and they can dish it back as well as take it.
And they also think I’m hilarious :rollin
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Think AFLW is the one "professional" sport where size should barely matter. No use having 22 fit girls that have no ability. 22 big chicks with great skill would probably slice them up
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Think AFLW is the one "professional" sport where size should barely matter. No use having 22 fit girls that have no ability. 22 big chicks with great skill would probably slice them up
Great point.
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Crows fly home against tough Tigers
By Sarah Burt
The Age
September 3, 2022
Adelaide have come from behind to break a much-improved Richmond’s hearts after the Tigers led by eight points at three-quarter-time in a tight battle at the Swinburne Centre on Saturday afternoon.
The first AFLW clash between the sides was a fierce contest, with the Crows eventually winning by nine points, 5.6 (36) to 4.3 (27).
Both sides had lost in round one – the reigning premier Crows were looking to bounce back after they were defeated in a grand-final rematch against Melbourne last week.
Richmond were again without skipper Katie Brennan due to a foot injury, with Sarah Hosking stepping in as captain on her 50th AFLW game, the first Tiger to reach the milestone.
Hosking’s twin sister, Sarah, ran out for her first game of the season alongside Maddy Brancatisano in her 25th game.
Adelaide made three changes this week, with new recruit Amber Ward making her debut after moving across from West Coast, while Brooke Tonon and Zoe Prowse were also named.
In a hot start in the opening term, last season’s leading goalkicker Ash Woodland opened the goalscoring to get the Crows on the board early, followed quickly by Prowse.
Emelia Yassir finished a clean passage of play for the Tigers with their first major, followed by another off the boot of Courtney Wakefield.
Richmond managed repeat entries but only had two to show for it, while Ebony Marinoff starred for the Crows with eight disposals and three tackles in the first term, becoming the first AFLW player in history to record 800 career kicks.
Wakefield got another for the Tigers in the second term, but the Crows responded quickly with a dribble through from Rachelle Martin, leaving the Tigers just two points up.
The Tigers had four times the number of inside 50’s but their inaccuracy in front of goal was continuing from last week. They were dominant on the ground with forward pressure but weren’t getting reward for effort as Adelaide’s defence held strong.
Anne Hatchard became just the second player in AFLW history to record 200 career marks as she dominated for the Crows, having notched 14 disposals, four marks and five tackles by half-time. Richmond remained two points up at the main break.
After a tight re-start, Richmond defender Maddie Shevlin took matters into her own hands and finally broke the dam wall, booting one to put them eight points up. Monique Conti was on track for her best career game, on 21 disposals and nine contested possessions leading into the final term.
Richmond were prolific in tackles inside 50, edging the AFLW record, but had the wind taken out of their sails when life-long Crows supporter Abbie Ballard slotted a goal for Adelaide to put them one point up. They had also shifted skipper Chelsea Randall forward in an attempt to capitalise.
Ballard got another as Richmond ended nine points behind at the final siren.
Randall said afterwards: “Richmond were outstanding … they really brought the pressure, we just had to come out and press the game up a little bit more and be more aggressive in our forward line.
“We were chasing that first win after the loss to Melbourne last week and we did it.”
ADELAIDE 2.0 3.0 3.1 5.6 (36)
RICHMOND 2.2 3.2 4.3 4.3 (27)
GOALS
ADELAIDE: Ballard 2, Woodland, Prowse, Martin
RICHMOND: Wakefield 2, Yassir, Shevlin
BEST
ADELAIDE: Hatchard, Woodland, Marinoff, Biddell, Gould, Randall
RICHMOND: Conti, Egan, McKenzie, Wakefield, Seymour, Kelly, Lavey
INJURIES None
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/crows-fly-home-against-dominant-tigers-to-notch-win-20220903-p5bf4o.html
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Only a win would have offset last weeks debacle
Girls showed they could match it with the best for most of the game, brings some hope to the season
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(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f4f9.png) Hear from Ferguson after today's loss to the Crows:
Watch here: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1213705/aflw-r2-ferguson-post-match
"We took it up to the reigning premier and showed what we're capable of, but they showed us how you can play big moments well and take your opportunities."
Doesn't sound like Katie Brennan will be back anytime soon either :-\.
Why the heck has our coach got an Adelaide coloured hat on? :huh3
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24+ disposals in #AFLW games for RICH
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13x: MONIQUE CONTI
@RichmondWomens @aflwomens #AFLWTigersCrows
https://twitter.com/sirswampthing/status/1565903346938294273
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Conti is head and shoulders above the rest. Good football is good football, and she is enjoyable to watch.
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Why the heck has our coach got an Adelaide coloured hat on? :huh3
It is the Club's cap from last year's "Pride Round" and he's been wearing it since it was released.
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Conti is head and shoulders above the rest. Good football is good football, and she is enjoyable to watch.
Best player in the league but doesn’t get the votes as she is in a arse side
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Coaches votes:
Richmond v Adelaide
9 Monique Conti (RICH)
9 Chelsea Biddell (ADEL)
6 Anne Hatchard (ADEL)
3 Tessa Lavey (RICH)
3 Ebony Marinoff (ADEL)
https://www.womens.afl/news/102347?_ga=2.248800647.1284796830.1654439057-224749430.1603381344