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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on April 24, 2023, 11:59:20 PM
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GC at Marvel - Win
WCE at MCG - Win
Cats at MCG - Hopeful
Dons at MCG - Should Win with players back
Port at MCG - Win
Giants in Sydney - Win
Freo in Perth - Should Win
Saints at MCG - Tough under current form
Then bye. Win 6 of these 8. We go into the bye 6 wins a draw and 6 losses. With a second game against WCE and games against Hawks and Roos. There are wins ahead. I don't think we need to be all doom and gloom.
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GC at Marvel - Win
WCE at MCG - Win
Cats at MCG - Hopeful
Dons at MCG - Should Win with players back
Port at MCG - Win
Giants in Sydney - Win
Freo in Perth - Should Win
Saints at MCG - Tough under current form
Then bye. Win 6 of these 8. We go into the bye 6 wins a draw and 6 losses. With a second game against WCE and games against Hawks and Roos. There are wins ahead. I don't think we need to be all doom and gloom.
I like the optimism T. :clapping
Add to all that our fitness will hopefully improve and fingers crossed we learn how to hit a target by foot and it’s plain sailing into finals. :gotigers
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Thanks mate agree need to be optimistic but wouldn't surprise me if we don't beat Port here or Freo there at least
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Normally I'd be optimistic but I'm as flat as a pancake right now.
Extremely worried about our next game at Comic Book Stadium-v- the Suns
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Love to win 6 of 8 but not that confident we will beat the Suns next week.
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I’m extremely pessimistic about our run from here to the bye. I would only give us a chance against the WA teams and given the volatility of our playing form I’m not even confident on that
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Saints will be stuffed by then
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I'm all for pessimistic views but we've only lost 4 games and to 4 decent sides who 3 will finish top 4 in my mind at worst top 6. With 2 of them being top 2.
Pies - Premiership favs, we were in the game
Dogs - Lost in the wet by 2 points and Dogs are now in form, some dodgy umpiring, should have won.
Swans - Bad night
Dees - at full strength apart from Brown, should have won.
I think many of us have been accustomed to winning 3/4 of our games or better and being 6 points at Round 6 feels very foreign. But give us a different draw and it's be interesting to see where we'd be at.
Tough draw, injured players. It's been a poo start, bring on the next block of games. Broad back, we were much better with Short back. Graham hopefully back soon with Nank and we start to get some nucleus back.
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Normally I'd be optimistic but I'm as flat as a pancake right now.
Extremely worried about our next game at Comic Book Stadium-v- the Suns
Yep..
These games last year cost us dearly let’s see how we go this Sunday.
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GC at Marvel - Win
WCE at MCG - Win
Cats at MCG - Hopeful
Dons at MCG - Should Win with players back
Port at MCG - Win
Giants in Sydney - Win
Freo in Perth - Should Win
Saints at MCG - Tough under current form
Then bye. Win 6 of these 8. We go into the bye 6 wins a draw and 6 losses. With a second game against WCE and games against Hawks and Roos. There are wins ahead. I don't think we need to be all doom and gloom.
The only game out of that lot I'm confident of us winning is against the Eagles as they are completely decimated.
We will not get near the Cats sadly now they are back up and running :P.
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Are they that up and running.
Sure they belted Swans at their home ground which they never lose at anyway against no defence. Granted same defence we couldn't beat but gather round form is an unknown for mine.
They belted Eagles they belted Hawks who are bottom 2. They haven't beated anyone else, apart from last week. I'm not sold on Cars at all.
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Ill be the grinch again and say we may only win one or two of them.
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Every AFL club’s predicted ladder position on the ladder at the mid-season byes
One big Victorian side won’t be happy with how the round 15 predicted ladder looks, while there are mixed expectations in South Australia. See where your side might sit in six weeks time.
Chris Cavanagh
HeraldSun
10 May 2023
RICHMOND
R9: Geelong @ MCG (L)
R10: Essendon @ MCG (W)
R11: Port Adelaide @ MCG (W)
R12: GWS @ GIANTS (W)
R13: Fremantle @ Optus (W)
R14: St Kilda @ MCG (L)
R15: Bye
Predicted Record: 6-7-1
Predicted Ladder Position: 11th
We shouldn’t get too sucked in by a good second half against an injury-hit West Coast last weekend. The Tigers could well get brought back to earth by Geelong on Friday night – a team they haven’t beaten since the 2020 Grand Final. Regardless, Richmond should be favoured to beat Essendon in the Dreamtime clash, given they have won their past 13 games against the Bombers. There is still a glimmer of hope for the Tigers as their draw opens up and the injury crisis eases, but there is a lot of work to do.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/a-predictive-look-at-every-clubs-ladder-position-at-the-midseason-byes/news-story/8b104179609eab65abf1a281f8b1d70f
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Would rip your arm off for that record at the bye.
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We have to be beating Don's Port and Giants and even Freo with the form they are showing. Injuries aren't a good enough excuse with only Nank and Lynch main outs.
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We have to be beating Don's Port and Giants and even Freo with the form they are showing. Injuries aren't a good enough excuse with only Nank and Lynch main outs.
TBF Lynch is the biggest out you could have in our team.
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Kane Cornes posed the following question: “Is it season over for the Tigers if they lose? Or can they recover from this?
“I think it is.”
King replied: “It probably is and they’re outsiders.”
Cornes added: “If you look at Richmond, their draw is pretty soft after this.
“They’ve got some really winnable games, but if you go two wins after nine games you’re not going to make the finals from there.
“So it’s all on the line.”
King concluded: “This is the night they need (under) the bright lights.”
The Tigers get the Cats at a good time.
Captain Patrick Dangerfield is out injured and Brad Close has been suspended, adding to the already absent group consisting of Jack Bowes, Sam De Koning, Cam Guthrie, Jack Henry, Sam Menegola, Gary Rohan, Rhys Stanley and Tyson Stengle.
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/05/12/why-this-is-a-huge-night-for-richmond-veteran-with-season-on-the-line/).
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Are they that up and running.
Sure they belted Swans at their home ground which they never lose at anyway against no defence. Granted same defence we couldn't beat but gather round form is an unknown for mine.
They belted Eagles they belted Hawks who are bottom 2. They haven't beated anyone else, apart from last week. I'm not sold on Cars at all.
Glad to be proven wrong. You were right, TigerLand :thumbsup.
The season has a pulse again. Now we need to back up tonight in Dreamtime next week. If there's one criticism, tonight is an indictment on how poorly we've performed in most games this year.
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Just do happy with that result.
Cats re no good. Have not won a single game outside of. Geelong. Great great win. Here we go
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There is a pulse….
Winnable games coming up.
Yeah we’re not that good but we are transitioning and still in the hunt.
Enjoy the ride.
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Cats game makes up for the suns loss.
Can see us beating Dons, Port, Giants, Freo and maybe not beating Saints but possibly going into the bye at about 7-1-6 which is better than I felt 3-4 weeks ago.
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Having a somewhat even ledger going into the bye would be an absolute dream. A part of me thinks the geelong game is a bit of an aberration like when we beat Sydney in 2016 but I hope the boys can use the geelong game as a launchpad for the rest of the season
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Having a somewhat even ledger going into the bye would be an absolute dream. A part of me thinks the geelong game is a bit of an aberration like when we beat Sydney in 2016 but I hope the boys can use the geelong game as a launchpad for the rest of the season
It was something of an aberration last night, not every opponent is going to be struck down with multiple injuries to important players. But, it was wonderful to see the way we went about it! Our fast ball movement & intensity was just overwhelming, the swarm was back & it was 2020 all over again! We looked sharp & decisive, even our skill level went up as we gained confidence. It was a real shot in the arm to play so well, hopefully we can keep it up from here on.
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The overlap handball through the middle with kmac, Graham, rioli which ended up with Martin was an absolute delight to watch
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Mick McGuane predicts how the ladder will look after the bye rounds
The Blues and Tigers are two teams in flux and the bye rounds look to inflict more pain on both sides. See Mick McGuane’s take on every team and how he has the ladder sitting after the byes.
Mick McGuane
HeraldSun
3 June 2023
15. RICHMOND
Round 12 – v GWS Giants, Giants Stadium L
Round 13 – v Fremantle, Optus Stadium L
Round 14 – v St Kilda, MCG L
Round 15 – Bye
It’s fair to say the way the Tigers are tracking, they will lose all three unless their injured spearhead Tom Lynch makes a remarkable return. The biggest issue for Richmond is that they can’t score at the moment. They are in the bottom six in the competition for points scored, bottom six for points scored from a turnover and bottom six for scores per inside-50. That’s not a profile to make you rapidly rise up the ladder.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-mick-mcguane-predicts-how-the-ladder-will-look-after-the-bye-rounds/news-story/3d43818bca0722f4b421160d9ffec147
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Yeah I can see us losing all 3 as well
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Will we ever win another game again?
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losing all those games will ensure mcqualter should be shown the door for a complete new fresh start under a new coach,
If a caretaker can’t enjoy some short term success then he is pretty crap at his job,
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Will we ever win another game again?
Yes ;D.
And we're now above Carlton on the ladder :lol.
Only a game and a half outside the top 8 too :o :outtahere
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The three teams on 28 are all very capable of a spectacular collapse
If we beat Freo and Stk , finals aren’t dead
6-1-7 at the bye
We have the three basket case sides in the second half of the year
If we can go 3-0 there, we need to go 4-2 in the other 6 games, which is achievable
Huge game this week
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We have 18 points after 12 games. To finish 8th i reckon we need 48 points. with the draw we have that means we need to win 8 out of 10.
If 13 wins is required then we will have to win 9 of ten.
Looks like several clubs will finish on 12 wins and i think 7th will be safe with 13 wins. meaning we need to win at least 8 from here on in.
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There's an extra round this year due to the Gather round. So, there's 11 games left.
We would need to win five of our next six (Freo, StK, Bris, Syd, WCE, Haw) to at least get realistically back in the running for a finals spot. We'd be 9-8-1 with five games to go (Melb, Dogs, StK, Norf, Port) and possibly have Lynch back in the side by then.
I don't see it happening though. Sadly, too many key injuries (esp. Lynch) and blowing too many winnable games already such as against the Dogs and Dreamtime has stuffed up our year. Any miraculous turnaround over the rest of the H/A season would need a repeat of 2014.
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Agree MT
Going to be very very very tough
Need to win the games before the bye to be any chance
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Just so I understand
I say we need to win 8
Is your saying we need to win 8 an agreement on this, or ?????
Lol. What you amazed we agree or something.
Yeah MT just figured out we play 23 games this year that is a bonus but the wriggle room is still tight.
That probably means 13 wins 52 points is needed or in our case 54 points.
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SEN SA tipping us to finish in the bottom 5.
Mark Bickley’s ladder prediction
... the former Adelaide premiership captain has both Carlton and Richmond finishing in the bottom third of the table.
The Blues and Tigers came into the season hoping to be in premiership contention, but both sit on just four wins and finals looks unlikely.
“I’ve got Richmond one spot higher in 14th with eight wins."
18th West Coast
17th Hawthorn
16th North Melbourne
15th GWS Giants
14th Richmond
13th Carlton
Jarrod Walsh
18th West Coast
17th North Melbourne
16th Hawthorn
15th Richmond
14th GWS Giants
13th Gold Coast
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/05/former-adelaide-captain-predicts-afl-ladder-bottom-6-at-halfway-point-of-the/
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For arguments sake
Let’s say we beat Hawks, Nort, WCE
That’s 7 wins
He’s tipping us to got 1-7 in the other 8 games
Reckon we are better than that
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Our record 4 - 7 - 1 = 18
4 50/50 games and imo im being a bit kind probably. None will be easy they are
Fremantle at optus. they have won their last 4?
Stkilda at mcg. I favor us for the fact its at the mcg but they have caused us all sorts of headaches in recent times.
Sydney at mcg. I give us a chance at the G. but sydney like us have had a lot of injuries and are slowly getting them back.Expect them to come home hard.Thought they beat us easy in rnd 5 at A/O.
W/B at Marvel. The fact its at Marvel i favor them besides they beat us in rnd 5 at home.
Imo we need to win at least Three of these games just to stay alive.
4 losses imo or games where we will not be favorites.
Brisbane gabba
Melbourne Mcg.
StKilda Marvel.
P/A at A/O.
Again need to win two at least just to stay alive.
3 wins where we will definately be favorites.
Wce optus
Hawthorn mcg
N/M Mcg.
Have to win all three there can be no slip ups
That would leave us.
12 WINS 10 LOSSES AND 1 DRAW = 50.The scenario allows for just 3 losses and is imo a best case scenario with 12 wins plus the draw getting us thru.
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Best case scenario is that we win the next 15 games straight
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Best case scenario is that we win the next 15 games straight
The old
“My cock is two inches”
“From the floor”
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Our record 4 - 7 - 1 = 18
4 50/50 games and imo im being a bit kind probably. None will be easy they are
Fremantle at optus. they have won their last 4?
Stkilda at mcg. I favor us for the fact its at the mcg but they have caused us all sorts of headaches in recent times.
Sydney at mcg. I give us a chance at the G. but sydney like us have had a lot of injuries and are slowly getting them back.Expect them to come home hard.Thought they beat us easy in rnd 5 at A/O.
W/B at Marvel. The fact its at Marvel i favor them besides they beat us in rnd 5 at home.
Imo we need to win at least Three of these games just to stay alive.
4 losses imo or games where we will not be favorites.
Brisbane gabba
Melbourne Mcg.
StKilda Marvel.
P/A at A/O.
Again need to win two at least just to stay alive.
3 wins where we will definately be favorites.
Wce optus
Hawthorn mcg
N/M Mcg.
Have to win all three there can be no slip ups
That would leave us.
12 WINS 10 LOSSES AND 1 DRAW = 50.The scenario allows for just 3 losses and is imo a best case scenario with 12 wins plus the draw getting us thru.
Our record at Docklands against the Dogs is pretty woeful. 2-1-9 since 2005 :P. The only wins both came in 2013. Mind you we haven't played them there since 2019 and it was our dumbness playing dry footy in the wet earlier this year that cost us the game. If we are to make the finals, we have to beat the sides like the Dogs that are also vying for the lower places of the Top 8.
Port in the last round could be a surprise one. If Port are securely locked into a top 2 spot, they may not be up for a dead rubber that is meaningless to them. Similar to when we played the Swans in the final round of 2014 at Stadium Australia. We jumped the Swannies with a 5 goal start and then hung on thanks to Rance's herculean efforts and Dusty's goal.
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Rance was king that day MT
One of the best games I’ve seen a Tiger play
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Rance was king that day MT
One of the best games I’ve seen a Tiger play
Totally agree Damo. An incredible game. Rance was a human wall.
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Our record 4 - 7 - 1 = 18
4 50/50 games and imo im being a bit kind probably. None will be easy they are
Fremantle at optus. they have won their last 4?
Stkilda at mcg. I favor us for the fact its at the mcg but they have caused us all sorts of headaches in recent times.
Sydney at mcg. I give us a chance at the G. but sydney like us have had a lot of injuries and are slowly getting them back.Expect them to come home hard.Thought they beat us easy in rnd 5 at A/O.
W/B at Marvel. The fact its at Marvel i favor them besides they beat us in rnd 5 at home.
Imo we need to win at least Three of these games just to stay alive.
4 losses imo or games where we will not be favorites.
Brisbane gabba
Melbourne Mcg.
StKilda Marvel.
P/A at A/O.
Again need to win two at least just to stay alive.
3 wins where we will definately be favorites.
Wce optus
Hawthorn mcg
N/M Mcg.
Have to win all three there can be no slip ups
That would leave us.
12 WINS 10 LOSSES AND 1 DRAW = 50.The scenario allows for just 3 losses and is imo a best case scenario with 12 wins plus the draw getting us thru.
Our record at Docklands against the Dogs is pretty woeful. 2-1-9 since 2005 :P. The only wins both came in 2013. Mind you we haven't played them there since 2019 and it was our dumbness playing dry footy in the wet earlier this year that cost us the game. If we are to make the finals, we have to beat the sides like the Dogs that are also vying for the lower places of the Top 8.
Port in the last round could be a surprise one. If Port are securely locked into a top 2 spot, they may not be up for a dead rubber that is meaningless to them. Similar to when we played the Swans in the final round of 2014 at Stadium Australia. We jumped the Swannies with a 5 goal start and then hung on thanks to Rance's herculean efforts and Dusty's goal.
Did say i was being a bit kind regards the 50/50 category.
Look we could play out of our skins for the rest of the year and its most likely we will miss finals.
I think all clubs are a bit bigger and more organised than just saying hey its mathematically possible to make finals. I think in a lot of cases that talk is to keep fans on board.
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We're still aiming for finals according to McQualter in his presser today.
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Well it's not like we can target a good pick :lol
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"I've got no doubt that with the remaining ten games, they're at least going to cause some problems." - Damian Barrett.
With Andrew McQualter getting Richmond firing again, can the Tigers make finals?
Sunday Footy Show discussion: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1667686572114993152
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CAN IMPROVING TIGERS MAKE FINALS CHARGE UNDER MCQUALTER?
By Lachlan Geleit
SEN
11 June 2023
Richmond’s finals hopes are alive following their upset 70-85 win over Fremantle at Optus Stadium last night.
With wins in their last two games, Richmond holds a 5-1-7 record and just six points behind the eighth-placed Western Bulldogs.
As the Tigers look to have improved in recent weeks under interim coach Andrew McQualter, journalist Damian Barrett believes Richmond are a genuine finals threat.
He discussed the side’s form and McQualter taking over from Damien Hardwick with Tony Jones and Matthew Lloyd on Nine’s Sunday Footy Show.
Jones: “If you're a Richmond supporter watching at the moment, can they (play finals)?”
Barrett: “Yeah, they can, they’re just six points out (of the eight) as we just saw on the ladder. “I've got no doubt that with the remaining 10 games, they're at least going to cause some problems which they did last night for the Dockers. ”
Lloyd: “What do you say to Damien Hardwick walking out when he did, he felt that there was nothing really much to gain from the season.
“It may help Richmond on the field.”
Jones: “Was it more his (Hardwick’s) mindset (that caused him to depart)?”
Barrett: “I think it was.
“They lost that game to Essendon by a point and then lost the first game under Andrew McQualter by 10 points against Port Adelaide.
“Then they’ve won the past two, the first by six points against GWS and last night by 15 against Fremantle.
“They toughed out both of them, and they've got a draw which I think is favourable to them to at least keep this dream alive.”
The Tigers will hope to win their third-straight game when they take on St Kilda in the MCG on Saturday.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/11/can-improving-tigers-make-finals-charge-under-mcqualter/
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If he gets us to finals from where we are I would pretty much be happy to give him the job.
I think we're in for 3-5 years of pain so I'm not overly fussed if he doesn't become a premiership coach but he might well be a good option to see us through a tough period.
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A 'Mini' revival is on at Richmond
Road wins can mark a turning point in a season, so what will back-to-back travel victories under a new coach do for the Tigers? Saturday night's 15-point win against Fremantle was Richmond's best this season and it showed us there is a pulse in 2023 under Andrew McQualter, who is 2-1 since taking over and is making a compelling early case to win the top job permanently. The Tigers are clearly playing for the coach they call 'Mini' and doing the tough, gritty things he demands. A sixth win for the season against St Kilda next Saturday night at the MCG and finals will be right back on the agenda. – Nathan Schmook
https://www.afl.com.au/news/944933/six-things-we-learned-this-saint-can-win-the-rising-star
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Richmond can still make the eight
While they looked dead and buried just a few weeks ago, Richmond have found something under Andrew McQualter to keep their finals hopes alive.
The big guns in Tim Taranto, Shai Bolton, Toby Nankervis, Jayden Short and Dustin Martin are all building in form and you can see the belief growing.
Even though they have a 5-1-7 record following their win over Fremantle on Saturday night, the Tigers are just six points out of the eight as the draw begins to open up for them.
In the current form that they’re in, Richmond are every chance of going 7-3 in their last 10 games which could be enough to sneak in and play in September.
The Tigers play all of West Coast, Hawthorn and North Melbourne on the run home and if they win all of those, they may only need to go 4-3 in their other fixtures with winnable games against St Kilda twice, Sydney at home and the Western Bulldogs to come.
It’d be an incredible effort from here, but the heart is still well and truly beating at Punt Road.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/12/the-big-talking-points-and-questions-out-of-round-13/