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Title: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: one-eyed on April 30, 2023, 07:32:23 PM
Possibly Graham back?

Fire away with your changes?  :help
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: FooffooValve on April 30, 2023, 07:41:02 PM
Stunned silence. Where do you start.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: pmac21 on April 30, 2023, 07:48:52 PM
Make a statement. 
Drop Cotchin, Martin, Grimes, Miller, Soldo (for the coach killer)
In Graham, Prestia, Bauer. Dow, Biggy
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 30, 2023, 08:14:50 PM
INS: Graham, Prestia, Bauer

OUTS: Young, Miller, Cotchin (managed), Clarke (sub)


Think Sonsie and Ross get another game. Ditto Soldo

The Soldo straight back with no VFL time and we will manage his minutes was a disaster
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on April 30, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Sonsie has been dropped for far better games than what he produced today. Can’t imagine we’ll see him at afl level for a few weeks after today.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: the claw on April 30, 2023, 09:23:30 PM
Sonsie has been dropped for far better games than what he produced today. Can’t imagine we’ll see him at afl level for a few weeks after today.

I know he had a poor game up to being subbed but we are going about it wrong.
It is incumbent on the coaching staff to find a way to get these kids into games. Not just pee em off because for starters we play em out of position and they struggle.
What was the point. Plenty of the seniors were deplorable and it just smacks of blaming the kid real easy to pee the kid off rather than have a go at a shizen favorite.
To me this smacks of the club attiude for ages now.

We are not winning a flag this year a blind man can see it. So encourage the kids play them in their best roles and start weeding out those who are past their used by date. That would be reality but at the RFC  we dont often deal with reality well.

I tend to think its time we had another independent revue of the footy dept.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: lamington on April 30, 2023, 09:27:23 PM
Hmmmm is hodge looking for a coaching job?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Andyy on April 30, 2023, 09:30:30 PM
How on earth we could drum this loss up to guys like Sonsie or Soldo is laughable. A 20yo with 10 games and a ruck who has played FA for the whole year and goes straight back to the top level against Witts lmao.

Out:
Clarke - not ready, needs to bulk up
Miller - putrid
Cotchin - retire

In
Prestia
Graham
Dow

Young is lucky to be out there but clearly Tarrant is finished and when Gibcus comes back he'll go in for Young.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 30, 2023, 09:31:00 PM
One of the concerns I took out of today's presser was Dimma suggesting Graham is still 1 to 3 weeks away and Gibcus longer. He then said something about Graham maybe playing a half in the VFL next week

Seriously? Is the left not telling the right what's going on in the footy dept
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Simonator on April 30, 2023, 09:35:22 PM
One of the concerns I took out of today's presser was Dimma suggesting Graham is still 1 to 3 weeks away and Gibcus longer. He then said something about Graham maybe playing a half in the VFL next week

Seriously? Is the left not telling the right what's going on in the footy dept

And soldo comes back with no game time ? It seems like a real circus atm
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: The Machine on April 30, 2023, 09:44:48 PM
One of the concerns I took out of today's presser was Dimma suggesting Graham is still 1 to 3 weeks away and Gibcus longer. He then said something about Graham maybe playing a half in the VFL next week

Seriously? Is the left not telling the right what's going on in the footy dept


Fridge right to go next week  :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: the claw on April 30, 2023, 10:02:28 PM
omg as a non betting man im so tempted to put some money on the weagles
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: The Machine on May 01, 2023, 09:12:28 AM
Broad Balta Grimes
Rioli Biggie Baker
Pickett Taranto McIntosh
Riewoldt Bauer Martin
Cumberland Ryan Mansell
Soldo Bolton Prestia
Short Hopper Dow Ross sub: Sonsie

This will not even be close to what takes the field Saturday but a few players left out are in horrible form and need a spell.
 
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 01, 2023, 09:16:24 AM
No Fridge TM?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: FooffooValve on May 01, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Sonsie has been dropped for far better games than what he produced today. Can’t imagine we’ll see him at afl level for a few weeks after today.

I know he had a poor game up to being subbed but we are going about it wrong.
It is incumbent on the coaching staff to find a way to get these kids into games. Not just pee em off because for starters we play em out of position and they struggle.
What was the point. Plenty of the seniors were deplorable and it just smacks of blaming the kid real easy to pee the kid off rather than have a go at a shizen favorite.
To me this smacks of the club attiude for ages now.

We are not winning a flag this year a blind man can see it. So encourage the kids play them in their best roles and start weeding out those who are past their used by date. That would be reality but at the RFC  we dont often deal with reality well.

I tend to think its time we had another independent revue of the footy dept.

Lol, how about some of these young blokes come in and have a red hot crack instead of running around like a frightened show pony getting a bath from Bellis. They need to seize the opportunity, not wait for some coach to give them a kick. Bluddy well seize the opportunity with both hands!
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: FooffooValve on May 01, 2023, 09:38:25 AM
INS: Graham, Prestia, Bauer

OUTS: Young, Miller, Cotchin (managed), Clarke (sub)


Think Sonsie and Ross get another game. Ditto Soldo

The Soldo straight back with no VFL time and we will manage his minutes was a disaster

Something like this, but it sounded like Graham won't be AFL ready next week. Definitely swap Young for Bauer, maybe Biggie deserves a crack at Miller's role. Cotchin out or sub, he's only good for 2 quarters at best now. Cumberland hanging by a thread.

One thing - people get into M Rioli, but it's so noticeable when he's not playing. Gold Coast just walked it out of D50 without a hint of real or implied pressure, and that's what got their uncontested mark game going. We need a genuine press from behind forward who can make the opposition rush a few kicks and thus we have a chance to turn it over. Just didn't happen yesterday.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: The Machine on May 01, 2023, 10:35:51 AM
No Fridge TM?


He will be good to go but Dimma mentioned it could be via VFL :thumbsdown
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: mightytiges on May 02, 2023, 03:13:51 PM
No Fridge TM?


He will be good to go but Dimma mentioned it could be via VFL :thumbsdown
Our VFL team has the bye this week. Dimma must not have known the VFL fixture.

So, either we bring Graham straight back into the seniors on Saturday or hold him off for another week to give him a run first in the ressies.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: the claw on May 02, 2023, 04:43:56 PM
How on earth we could drum this loss up to guys like Sonsie or Soldo is laughable. A 20yo with 10 games and a ruck who has played FA for the whole year and goes straight back to the top level against Witts lmao.

Out:
Clarke - not ready, needs to bulk up
Miller - putrid
Cotchin - retire

In
Prestia
Graham
Dow

Young is lucky to be out there but clearly Tarrant is finished and when Gibcus comes back he'll go in for Young.
apparently if they dont dominate they arent grabbing their chance and need to go back to the two's.Thats what people actually think go figure.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: the claw on May 02, 2023, 05:56:37 PM
We are supposed to have a huge injury list but its an excuse.

Tarrant -  well there is literally Young, Miller, Nyuon and supposedly Bauer lol.What is happening here. Young comes in is out of his depth but they persevere. Nyuon is now supposedly being developed in the ruck after how many seasons. Miller who is best suited to defence imo is played every where but, and expected to beat the likes of Gawn Grundy and Witts in the ruck.

Lynch - well there is no replacement but there are options. We have two young tall fwds Bradtke who is injured unfortunately and Bauer who is not a genuine KPF size imo who we now see fit to play in defense in the reserves. Im incredulous that no one else has nothing to say about this sad state of affairs. Why are we playing the only available tall fwd we have in defense when we so desperately need to find another tall fwd.

Gibcus - Imo third tall atm  and only in second season.  imo when fit should play instead of Grimes who has been shizen most of the year.
Way its gone we will be forced to play him instead of Young as a kpd.We should be playing Miller there though imo.

Nankervis - well the logical replacement for him is Soldo. Other options mainly as second rucks are one of Ryan and Miller. There is also Colina who has been on the list forever and im asking has he even played a VFL game. It has been pretty clear That when Nankervis is fit its not ideal to play both him and Soldo for some pretty obvious reasons.

This week Prestia was out but rested he has been struggling anyway. He has played most weeks though.Graham was another missing but people hate it being said is nothing more than a foot soldier.

Once injuries happen the reality is the talent pool is not there.What happens is the likes of Baker, McIntosh,Graham,  Short, Ross, Vlastuin Balta Broad the ones who should now be the leaders and leading from the front cannot fill the void.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: the claw on May 02, 2023, 06:19:13 PM
Hmm for me this week.

Grimes - Miller - Vlastuin
Rioli - Balta - Broad

Banks - Hopper - Pickett
Soldo - Martin - Dow

Bolton - Riewoldt - Taranto
Cumberland - Bauer - Ryan

Prestia - Baker - Sonsie - McIntosh - Short.

Clarke - Young - Cotchin - Ross
Bauer - Banks - Dow - Prestia

Playing Miller where we should be instead of Young.
Playing Bauer as a tall fwd option where we need to develop him.Can always swing him back if they need to.
Banks has been good in the two,s reward him.Just hoping he gets a bit of ball and uses it better than McIntosh.
Dow is the same as Banks. Gotta reward him and Cotchin was awful.
Prestia in for Ross no brainer.

Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Knighter on May 02, 2023, 06:45:45 PM
Hmm for me this week.

Grimes - Miller - Vlastuin
Rioli - Balta - Broad

Banks - Hopper - Pickett
Soldo - Martin - Dow

Bolton - Riewoldt - Taranto
Cumberland - Bauer - Ryan

Prestia - Baker - Sonsie - McIntosh - Short.

Clarke - Young - Cotchin - Ross
Bauer - Banks - Dow - Prestia

Playing Miller where we should be instead of Young.
Playing Bauer as a tall fwd option where we need to develop him.Can always swing him back if they need to.
Banks has been good in the two,s reward him.Just hoping he gets a bit of ball and uses it better than McIntosh.
Dow is the same as Banks. Gotta reward him and Cotchin was awful.
Prestia in for Ross no brainer.

Josh Kennedy could come out of retirement and kick 10 on Miller.  He needs to be traded to Vermont pronto
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: the claw on May 02, 2023, 09:10:59 PM
Hmm for me this week.

Grimes - Miller - Vlastuin
Rioli - Balta - Broad

Banks - Hopper - Pickett
Soldo - Martin - Dow

Bolton - Riewoldt - Taranto
Cumberland - Bauer - Ryan

Prestia - Baker - Sonsie - McIntosh - Short.

Clarke - Young - Cotchin - Ross
Bauer - Banks - Dow - Prestia

Playing Miller where we should be instead of Young.
Playing Bauer as a tall fwd option where we need to develop him.Can always swing him back if they need to.
Banks has been good in the two,s reward him.Just hoping he gets a bit of ball and uses it better than McIntosh.
Dow is the same as Banks. Gotta reward him and Cotchin was awful.
Prestia in for Ross no brainer.

Josh Kennedy could come out of retirement and kick 10 on Miller.  He needs to be traded to Vermont pronto
You wouldn't know no one can remember the last time we played him in defence. Keep on saying it we are destroying careeres by playing them out of position before they even properly establish themselves.Beside he can be no worse than Young atm.

Give him a few games in his best role and if it fails ill jump on board with ya.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Andyy on May 02, 2023, 09:31:25 PM
How on earth we could drum this loss up to guys like Sonsie or Soldo is laughable. A 20yo with 10 games and a ruck who has played FA for the whole year and goes straight back to the top level against Witts lmao.

Out:
Clarke - not ready, needs to bulk up
Miller - putrid
Cotchin - retire

In
Prestia
Graham
Dow

Young is lucky to be out there but clearly Tarrant is finished and when Gibcus comes back he'll go in for Young.
apparently if they dont dominate they arent grabbing their chance and need to go back to the two's.Thats what people actually think go figure.

Dows been carving it up hasn't he?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: the claw on May 02, 2023, 11:34:42 PM
How on earth we could drum this loss up to guys like Sonsie or Soldo is laughable. A 20yo with 10 games and a ruck who has played FA for the whole year and goes straight back to the top level against Witts lmao.

Out:
Clarke - not ready, needs to bulk up
Miller - putrid
Cotchin - retire

In
Prestia
Graham
Dow

Young is lucky to be out there but clearly Tarrant is finished and when Gibcus comes back he'll go in for Young.
apparently if they dont dominate they arent grabbing their chance and need to go back to the two's.Thats what people actually think go figure.

Dows been carving it up hasn't he?

Apparently so. Seems to smack a bit of the RC-D situation where his face just does not fit.
Would not hesitate to play Banks on a wing this week and Dow starting onball send the message your prepared to back em in and reward some good vfl form for once rather than regurgitating one  or a few of the favorites.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 03, 2023, 08:55:10 AM
No Fridge TM?


He will be good to go but Dimma mentioned it could be via VFL :thumbsdown

True but Dimma also said in his presser that he was still 1-3 weeks away  :lol
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: one-eyed on May 03, 2023, 02:18:51 PM
In the Mix: Round 8

Sarah Black
afl.com.au
3 May 2023


(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=952)

If he successfully gets through training this week, Richmond will be welcoming back Jack Graham from a hamstring injury.

Tyler Sonsie struggled to make an impact against Gold Coast (but wasn't alone in that regard) while Judson Clarke was the starting sub.

Jack Ross performed well upon his recall to the senior side.

Ben Miller was barely sighted with two disposals and three hitouts, but allowed Ivan Soldo (57 per cent game time) to ease his way back after a foot injury.

There still isn't much depth in the VFL, but the side's better performers in the 73-point loss – Rhyan Mansell (three goals), Hugo Ralphsmith (21 disposals, two goals) and Thomson Dow (28 and 11 clearances) – are all AFL-listed.

Star midfielder Dion Prestia should also be right to go after a week off due to being managed.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/917779/in-the-mix-r8-who-s-under-the-pump-pushing-for-selection-
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: lamington on May 03, 2023, 03:42:58 PM
Legit question regarding rcd if he is legit good does the whole afl not see it or is there a conspiracy and that’s why he’s in sanfl?
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: pmac21 on May 03, 2023, 04:07:16 PM
Surely Cotch is the starting sub this week or gets managed. 
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: taztiger4 on May 03, 2023, 08:47:11 PM
Legit question regarding rcd if he is legit good does the whole afl not see it or is there a conspiracy and that’s why he’s in sanfl?

has he played SANFL yet, I looked a week or so ago & he hadnt, same as Stack in Perth
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: mightytiges on May 03, 2023, 09:13:43 PM
Legit question regarding rcd if he is legit good does the whole afl not see it or is there a conspiracy and that’s why he’s in sanfl?

has he played SANFL yet, I looked a week or so ago & he hadnt, same as Stack in Perth
RCD has played the past two games for Woodville-West Torrens.

https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/woodville-west-torrens/1008297/?league=sanfl&season=2023

Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 03, 2023, 10:23:56 PM
Legit question regarding rcd if he is legit good does the whole afl not see it or is there a conspiracy and that’s why he’s in sanfl?

has he played SANFL yet, I looked a week or so ago & he hadnt, same as Stack in Perth
RCD has played the past two games for Woodville-West Torrens.

https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/woodville-west-torrens/1008297/?league=sanfl&season=2023

He was injured pre-season, so late start to his season

Knee injury i was told
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: torch on May 03, 2023, 11:20:45 PM
IN (OUT)

Prestia (Young)



Round 8 v West Coast

B:     Grimes     Miller     Vlastuin

HB:     Rioli     Balta     Broad

C:     Pickett     Taranto     McIntosh

HF:     Bolton     Ryan     Clarke

F:     Cumberland     Riewoldt     Martin

R:     Soldo     Prestia     Hopper

I:     Short     Ross     Sonsie     Baker

S:     Cotchin
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Andyy on May 04, 2023, 12:25:18 AM
Legit question regarding rcd if he is legit good does the whole afl not see it or is there a conspiracy and that’s why he’s in sanfl?

has he played SANFL yet, I looked a week or so ago & he hadnt, same as Stack in Perth
RCD has played the past two games for Woodville-West Torrens.

https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/woodville-west-torrens/1008297/?league=sanfl&season=2023



Underwhelming start to his season.

I reckon he should have played forward a bit before we delisted him, he's the same size as Jack plus good mark + kick for goal. Oh well...
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: taztiger4 on May 04, 2023, 12:43:31 PM
Legit question regarding rcd if he is legit good does the whole afl not see it or is there a conspiracy and that’s why he’s in sanfl?

has he played SANFL yet, I looked a week or so ago & he hadnt, same as Stack in Perth
RCD has played the past two games for Woodville-West Torrens.

https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/woodville-west-torrens/1008297/?league=sanfl&season=2023

Ok, thanks
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: one-eyed on May 04, 2023, 12:59:49 PM
Dimma in his presser said Graham and Prestia will be back this week.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: one-eyed on May 04, 2023, 03:42:18 PM
'Spy' says Prestia and Graham trained fully. Cotch was in the rehab group (sub or rested this week?). Lynch and Tarrant walked laps. No sight of Young at training (injured?). Bauer possibly making his debut but not confirmed.
Title: Cotchin to miss Eagles clash (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on May 04, 2023, 04:24:45 PM
Tiger to miss Eagles clash

RICHMOND has ruled veteran Trent Cotchin out of its clash against West Coast on Saturday.

The Tigers said the former captain was battling general soreness and would miss the encounter against the Eagles.

It comes after Richmond rested Dion Prestia for its clash against Gold Coast in round seven.

Cotchin, 33, has played in all seven games for the Tigers this season, averaging 14.9 disposals, 2.7 marks and 2.3 tackles.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/918078/live-blog-r8-teams-first-tiger-out-latest-news
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: georgies31 on May 04, 2023, 04:34:20 PM
I got to ask the question why do we make our veterans play on yet we're resting them so early on in the season should have retired full stop.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Simonator on May 04, 2023, 06:17:51 PM
Sonesie and Cumberland out. F me dead
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Willy on May 04, 2023, 06:46:06 PM
Sonesie and Cumberland out. F me dead

TBF They were both awful last week.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 04, 2023, 07:01:27 PM
I got to ask the question why do we make our veterans play on yet we're resting them so early on in the season should have retired full stop.

Not sure saying the Club made them play on. Both Jack and Cotch wanted to go in. Think they were given the option

Also, resting him this week means he will play 300th game in Melbourne at the MCG. Think that  out definitely has something to do with him being rested this week
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: georgies31 on May 04, 2023, 07:14:29 PM
I got to ask the question why do we make our veterans play on yet we're resting them so early on in the season should have retired full stop.

Not sure saying the Club made them play on. Both Jack and Cotch wanted to go. Think they were given the option

Also, resting him this week means he will play 300th game in Melbourne at the MCG. Think that  out definitely has something to do with him being rested this week

I get your points mate , but seems to me from outside stinks of arrogance no club early on and especially us cannot afford to rest players when your at 1 win out of 7.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: the claw on May 04, 2023, 08:23:41 PM
Sonesie and Cumberland out. F me dead

TBF They were both awful last week.
Agreed but so have a lot of the older blokes for weeks on end and they dont cop it in the neck hardly ever.

It reeks of a club or those in charge of footy saying we will back in the really old and aging blokes but we won't back in the kids and give em a chance at redemption.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Simonator on May 04, 2023, 09:19:13 PM
Sonesie and Cumberland out. F me dead

TBF They were both awful last week.

May be true but these two are some of the few youngsters I actually have faith in. Both should play every game for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on May 04, 2023, 10:03:53 PM
Sonesie and Cumberland out. F me dead

They had 2 effective possessions between them and played 55 and 85 minutes each. You cannot blindly play them.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game next week?
Post by: JP Tiger on May 04, 2023, 10:38:59 PM
Sonesie and Cumberland out. F me dead

They had 2 effective possessions between them and played 55 and 85 minutes each. You cannot blindly play them.
Exactly!  And if we don't make even the kids earn a game then what message does that send to the whole squad?