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Richmond and Collingwood will face off in the first official pre-season game ahead of the start of the 2024 Toyota AFL Premiership Season, with the old rivals to meet at Ikon Park on Tuesday, February 27.
AFL Community Series
Tuesday, February 27
Collingwood v Richmond, Ikon Park, 6.40pm AEDT
Clubs can also arrange optional match simulation sessions among themselves prior to the Community Series.
The League has also confirmed the modified rules for the Community Series, which include:
- Four quarters of 20 mins plus time on (as per AFL Premiership Season)
- Squad of 30 players, eight interchange and four emergencies. Minimum of four players on the interchange bench during the match at any time
- No interchange cap
- Full panel of umpires appointed by the AFL
Tickets for the AFL Community Series will go on sale in February with further information to be communicated in late January.
All matches will be broadcast live on Fox Footy and Kayo Sports.
The club-organised match simulation sessions will also be live streamed on Kayo.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1477167/tigers-to-face-pies-in-opening-pre-season-game
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https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1734456528906965145
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Confirmed.
2024 AFL Community Series fixture (live on Fox Footy & Kayo)
Tuesday, February 27
Collingwood v Richmond, Ikon Park, 6.40pm AEDT
Wednesday, February 28
Carlton v Melbourne, Ikon Park, 6.40pm AEDT
Thursday, February 29
Sydney v Brisbane, Blacktown International Sportspark, 4.10pm AEDT
Greater Western Sydney v Gold Coast, Manuka Oval, 7.10pm AEDT
Friday, March 1
Geelong v Essendon, GMHBA Stadium, 5.10pm AEDT
Port Adelaide v Fremantle, Alberton Oval, 7.30pm ACDT
Saturday, March 2
Adelaide v West Coast, Hisense Stadium, 2.40pm ACDT
Hawthorn v Western Bulldogs, University of Tasmania Stadium, 6.10pm AEDT
Sunday, March 3
St Kilda v North Melbourne, RSEA Park, 2.10pm AEDT
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1074361/locked-in-details-confirmed-for-match-sims-practice-games
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“Collectively, Richmond, Collingwood, and our members and supporters can make a significant difference."
Our upcoming pre-season match against Collingwood will be played for the inaugural Charity Shield, with fundraising efforts going towards @FoodbankAus 💛
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1486204/richmond-and-collingwood-announce-inaugural-charity-shield
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"Charity Shield"?
Another idea copied from the NRL
I think we can do better ::)
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Tim Taranto, Dustin Martin and Liam Baker all look set for minutes against Collingwood in the inaugural pre-season Charity Shield game next Tuesday.
Tigers captain Toby Nankervis is also expected to join the trio after he was managed against the Demons, but Dion Prestia is set to take longer to be ready to play as he battles a hamstring injury.
“I think most of those boys that didn’t play on the weekend will be gearing up to have a run around, just got to tick their final boxes I suppose,” Hopper said.
Source: HeraldSun (https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2024-jacob-hopper-says-thomson-dow-will-lift-richmond-midfield/news-story/14637953f418fd30018e600cb938b6d0).
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Tickets: https://www.ticketmaster.com.au/event/1300603A7E2F0C36
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According to 7news:
* Dusty, Taranto and Grimesy will play against the Pies.
* No sign of Nank at training. Still battling with a persistent foot issue (Ch 9 though said he is "expected" to play vs Pies).
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Tiger team named for Charity Shield practice match
Five Richmond stars have been included in the team to face Collingwood at Ikon Park on Tuesday evening.
By Richmond Media
1 hr ago
Richmond has named its 26-man team for Tuesday night's Charity Shield practice match against Collingwood at Ikon Park.
The Tigers will be strengthened by the inclusions of several stars, with midfielder Dion Prestia overcoming a minor hamstring injury suffered in an internal match simulation at Punt Road on January 31.
Dylan Grimes, Dustin Martin, Liam Baker and Tim Taranto will also take the field after not featuring in last Sunday's match simulation against Melbourne at Casey Fields.
Rhyan Mansell (syndesmosis), Nick Vlastuin (managed) and Sam Banks (calf tightness) will miss tomorrow's match at Ikon Park, as will captain Toby Nankervis with foot soreness.
Richmond's four emergencies for the pre-season match are James Trezise, Maurice Rioli, Kane McAuliffe and Hugo Ralphsmith.
The game, from 6.40pm AEDT, will be the Tigers' final pre-season hit-out ahead of Opening Round against Gold Coast on Saturday, March 9.
Fundraising efforts surrounding tomorrow's Charity Shield match will go towards stuff.
To support the fundraising efforts, both clubs sought permission from the AFL to fully-ticket the match and requested an adjusted entry price for members.
Club members and the general public will need to purchase a ticket to enter the match. Members must upgrade to a paid ticket, and there will be no walk-up scans for this game.
Tuesday's match against the Magpies will be broadcast live on Fox Footy, available on Kayo Sports and Foxtel.
Prior to the senior match, a VFL practice match between the two clubs will take place at the Swinburne Centre, Punt Road Oval from 3pm.
Entry to Punt Road Oval will be free, with the game to be live streamed on richmondfc.com.au and the Official Richmond Club App.
Richmond Charity Shield team v Collingwood, Tuesday, February 27, 6.40pm AEDT, Ikon Park
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Backs: Dylan Grimes 2, Tylar Young 45, Josh Gibcus 18,
Half-Backs: Jayden Short 15, Nathan Broad 35, Daniel Rioli 17,
Centreline: Kamdyn McIntosh 33, Dion Prestia 3, Marlion Pickett 50
Half-Forwards: Seth Campbell 44, Liam Baker 7, Shai Bolton 29
Forwards: Jacob Koschitzke 20, Dustin Martin 4, Noah Balta 21
Followers: Sam Naismith 24, Thomson Dow 27, Tim Taranto 14
Interchange: Tom Brown 30, Jacob Hopper 22, Jack Graham 34, Samson Ryan 32, Ben Miller 46, Jack Ross 5, Steely Green 48, Mykelti Lefau 42,
Emergencies: James Trezise 36, Maurice Rioli Jr. 10, Kane McAuliffe 28, Hugo Ralphsmith 13
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1495453/charity-shield-team-announcement
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AFL site saying Liam Baker will Captain the side in Nank's absence
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The match is a sanctioned AFL fixture, consisting of four 20-minute quarters, plus time on with the only changes to standard rules being that each side can have up to eight players on the interchange bench and have unlimited rotations.
The action will be broadcast live on Fox Footy, available on Kayo Sports and Foxtel.
COLLINGWOOD
B: Darcy Moore, Brayden Maynard, Oleg Markov
HB: Billy Frampton, Isaac Quaynor, Nick Daicos
C: Bobby Hill, Jordan De Goey, Josh Daicos
HF: Tom Mitchell, Darcy Cameron, Lachie Schultz
F: Will Hoskin-Elliott, Jamie Elliott, Brody Mihocek
Foll: Mason Cox, Steele Sidebottom, Patrick Lipinski
I/C: John Noble, Finlay Macrae, Jack Crisp, Reef McInnes, Beau McCreery, Harvey Harrison, Ash Johnson, Charlie Dean
Emerg: Nathan Kreuger, Jakob Ryan, Joe Richards, Lachlan Sullivan
Notable absentees: Scott Pendlebury, Jeremy Howe
RICHMOND
B: Dylan Grimes, Tylar Young, Josh Gibcus
HB: Jayden Short, Nathan Broad, Daniel Rioli
C: Kamdyn McIntosh, Dion Prestia, Marlion Pickett
HF: Seth Campbell, Liam Baker, Shai Bolton
F: Jacob Koschitzke, Dustin Martin, Noah Balta
Foll: Sam Naismith, Thomson Dow, Tim Taranto
I/C: Tom Brown, Jacob Hopper, Jack Graham, Samson Ryan, Ben Miller, Jack Ross, Steely Green, Mykelti Lefau
Emerg: Hugo Ralphsmith, James Trezise, Kane McAuliffe, Maurice Rioli jnr
Notable absentees: Tom Lynch, Nick Vlastuin, Toby Nankervis, Rhyan Mansell
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1079328/teams
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Where's Sonsie?
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Where's Sonsie?
Suspended for the first two rounds so I'd say they just want to look at the blokes that will actually be available for those games. :shh
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Geez no cummy! And mrj as an emergency. Doors at Last chance saloon must be closing fast?
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Geez no cummy! And mrj as an emergency. Doors at Last chance saloon must be closing fast?
No surprise really with Cumberland, limited pre-season, played VFL last week... was never an option for this game
This game is for those most like in round 1
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HTF does Ross, Graham and Ryan get a game in front of Trezise. All 3 are proven hacks. Trezise has some talent.
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Cumberland playing like he wants to stay in the vfl. Caught twice holding the ball, tackled whilst bouncing both times within 5 minute. Open teammates around him
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Rioli has shown some good gut running, sometimes rewarded and sometimes not. Seems to have a better work rate
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Should be 4 goals up. Can't kick straight.
Rich 1.6-12
Coll 0.1-1
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Make that 1.7 :P
All these are gettable shots be it set shots or on the run.
Our transition from defence has been brilliant btw. Need to finish the good work off.
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Our kicking is pathetic. Including field kicking
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Samson with the first jump and contested mark in the goalsquare :o. Goal! :gotigers
Rich 2.7-19
Coll 2.1-13
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Quarter time
Richmond 2.7-19
Coll'wood 2.1-13
Goals: Ryan, Prestia
Dominated first 10 mins with our transition and clearances but kicked 7 behinds in a row after our first goal :P. Pies had the better of the next 10 but we defended fairly well. Last 5 mins we were able to lock it in our F50 and Samson got that last goal.
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Certainly some intent there even just for a pre season match. I don't note any massive differences, hard to say from a quarter of footy.
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Stats to 1/4 time:
Short 9 disposals
Taranto 8
Baker 7
Prestia 7
Pickett 6
Dow 5
Dusty 5
Hopper 5
D.Rioli 5
Bolton 4
Disposals: 81 - 94
Marks: 12 - 36
Clearances: 10 - 9
Inside 50s: 15 - 14
Tackles: 7 - 19
Hitouts: 7 - 13
Frees: 3 - 10 ::)
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6110#team-stats
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Umpires taking the complete pee as usual. F them and the AFL
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Can't drop those 10m out Marlion.
19 - 21
Sloppy this qtr :P.
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Naismith floating across from the side takes the mark 30 out. Misses.
20 - 21
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Kmac jumped scragged = no free.
Balta arms chopped = no free.
Same old same old ::).
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First impression is that we are better organised defensively. Pies being held up a lot, and even on the fast breaks we are competitive, which didn't happen last year.
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Bobby Hill kicks a goal, didn't even realise he was playing. Hasn't been mentioned at all.
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They are just feeding off our mistakes. Sloppy with the ball and without (mistackles). Yze wouldn't be happy.
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Naismith tried to do a Dusty from the pocket.
21 - 29
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Bottom 5 this year and hopper will continue doing what hopper does
Sfa
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We have had more fumbles than the umpires have made shocking decisions. Not good enough.
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Who's the handball coach FFS.
Can't hit a target 2m away.
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basic skills have been atrocious.. no game plan will work
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Half-time
Richmond 2.7 2.10-22
Coll'wood 2.1 5.6-36
Goals: Ryan, Prestia
Understatement to say that quarter was a hard watch :P.
Pies stepped up their pressure and our basic skill level just crumbled. Also, our pressure dropped off including plenty of mistakles. When we did a look up forward, we lost our connection going inside 50 with just low percentage bombing it hoping for a pack mark.
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Half-time
Richmond 2.7 2.10-22
Coll'wood 2.1 5.6-36
Goals: Ryan, Prestia
Understatement to say that quarter was a hard watch :P.
Pies stepped up their pressure and our basic skill level just crumbled. Also, our pressure dropped off including plenty of mistakles. When we did a look up forward, we lost our connection going inside 50 with just low percentage bombing it hoping for a pack mark.
the lack of connection going fwd was very reminiscent of last year. You could understand it may take a while for players to break habits
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The final Rioli entry sums us up, 3 players running inside 50 with no pressure and just bomb it to a 2 on 1 rather than run with the footy.
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Half-time
Richmond 2.7 2.10-22
Coll'wood 2.1 5.6-36
Goals: Ryan, Prestia
Understatement to say that quarter was a hard watch :P.
Pies stepped up their pressure and our basic skill level just crumbled. Also, our pressure dropped off including plenty of mistakles. When we did a look up forward, we lost our connection going inside 50 with just low percentage bombing it hoping for a pack mark.
the lack of connection going fwd was very reminiscent of last year. You could understand it may take a while for players to break habits
FFS, they are professionals, do this, do that, it’s not rocket science, bloody pathetic
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Stats to 1/2 time:
Disposals: 169 - 199 ........ 90 kicks 79 handballs for us. That's a low kick-HB ratio.
Marks: 28 - 65
Clearances: 20 - 17
Inside 50s: 28 - 25
Tackles: 19 - 32
Hitouts: 13 - 23
Frees: 7 - 14
Baker 12 disposals
Hopper 12
Taranto 12
Dow 11
Dusty 11
D.Rioli 11
Short 11
Bolton 10
Pickett 10
Prestia 10
Broad 9
Naismith 9 ..... the bright light our there.
Gibcus 6
Graham 6
Balta 5
Brown 5
Grimes 4
Kmac 4
Young 4
Campbell 3
Kosi 2
Samson 2
Green, Lefau, Miller & Ross - not used yet.
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6110#player-stats
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About the 3rd-4th time tonight we've stupidly handballed to Prestia when he wasn't free and turned it over.
22 - 43
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Shai misses another gettable chance.
23 - 43
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Selfish Shai tonight
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Look very one dimensional going forward, bombing long to contests and then we are out numbered at ground level
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Shai didn't look and just went the shot from 45. If you take the responsibility then you've got to kick 'em.
24 - 43
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50 to Young and gets his first (unofficial) goal as a Tiger.
Rich 3.12-30
Coll 6.7-43
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Shai & Dusty aren't serious out yhere
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Shai & Dusty aren't serious out yhere
yep. its just a pre season but the message should be everyone's position is up for grabs including these two. games like this make me really dislike the way bolton plays. pleading for a free kick while the opposition has the ball 1m from him
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First time we didn't just bomb. Kmac lowered the eyes and hit up Baker 45 out. And another miss :scream.
31 - 49
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Is Hopper playing?
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We’re just running on train tracks. No spread or width to create space. Looks a lot like the old game plan of just hack it forward at all costs.
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I will pay more attention in the real games, but im just not seeing any differences. Same dumb kicks forward, lack of pressure, show boating from bolton. Rome wasnt built in a day
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Need at least one forward leading up at the ball carrier. We're just kicking it to the Pies defenders who are in front as the ball inside F50 doesn't get over the top.
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Prestia has been very meh too.
Players the likes of prestia, pickett, grimes even broad and graham.. arent going to be the guys to take us forward
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We refuse to run inside 50 with the ball.
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Summed up our night there. Another kick inside 50 under no pressure goes straight to a Pies defender :facepalm.
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3/4 time
Richmond 2.7 2.10 3.14-32
Coll'wood 2.1 5.6 8.11-59
Goals: Ryan, Prestia, Young
Just 3 goals in 3/4ers of football :P. Tonight has been wooden spoon stuff after the first 10 mins.
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Looking bottom 2-4 for sure tonight. Skills are just so poor under pressure.
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Stats to 3/4 time:
Disposals: 257 - 291 .......... 132 kicks 125 handballs. You don't win games handballing as much as you kick.
Marks: 45 - 93
Clearances: 26 - 30
Inside 50s: 41 - 41
Tackles: 28 - 43
Hitouts: 19 - 33
Frees: 7 - 17
Taranto 20 disposals
Baker 18
Hopper 18
Dow 17
Short 17
Bolton 16
Dusty 15
D.Rioli 15
Pickett 14
Prestia 14
Broad 12
Naismith 12
Graham 11
Kmac 10
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6110#player-stats
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Balta now misses another one (set shot).
3.15 :facepalm.
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21 - 8 free kicks. Just saying
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Seen enough of Kositcke. Not up to it.
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Our membership dept. tomorrow morning is going to be happy about tonight's 'effort' - NOT! :P
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Hooray! We finally nailed a set shot (Baker).
Rich 4.15-39
Coll 9.14-68
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Seen enough of Kositcke. Not up to it.
Lynch will replace him when he comes back.
Balta hasn't done much either tonight.
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No need to get all hysterical. It's a practice match. Macintosh Ross etc won't be in the team for much longer. They are all still learning a new system. Some poor signs so far but also many positive. Give them time to settle . We also have never really been a team that is on fire early in the season. Let's have some patience before we all start panicking
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Dow goal.
Rich 5.16-46
Coll 9.14-68
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Kamdyn clearly our best in my opinion
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Kamdyn clearly our best in my opinion
That's laughable
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Graham with a quad injury in the last minute.
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Well that was embarrassing after the siren.
But, good for Ryan having a crack at Cox. Bloody grub!
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Kamdyn clearly our best in my opinion
That's laughable
Too 3 in ranking points for us so not really.
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Kamdyn clearly our best in my opinion
Go KMac!!
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Final Score
Richmond 2.7 2.10 3.14 5.16-46
Coll'wood 2.1 5.6 8.11 10.16-76
Goals: Ryan, Prestia, Young, Baker, Dow.
:P
Doing the basics right like skills and goalkicking at the top of the list at training before Round "Zero".
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Sloppy as hell .
Sobering reality check.
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Frees 23-8
I see nothing has changed
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Gonna be a long year .. just lay back and think of the draft picks.... :shh
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I wouldn’t give the season away after one practice match
At the end of the day we played the reigning premiers , in that context I didn’t think we were too bad
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Team stats:
Disposals: 343 - 378
Kicks: 184 - 259
Handballs: 159 - 119
Marks: 66 - 130
Clearances: 32 - 36
Inside 50s: 51 - 58
Tackles: 34 - 47
Hitouts: 22 - 38
Frees: 8 - 23
Individual disposals:
Short 27
Taranto 26
Hopper 23 ..... 68% groundtime
Baker 22
Dow 20
Bolton 19
Dusty 18 ..... 70% groundtime
Broad 17
Pickett 17
D.Rioli 17
Kmac 16
Graham 14
Prestia 14 ..... 54% groundtime
Naismith 13 ..... 67% groundtime
Balta 11
Young 10
Brown 9
Campbell 9
Gibcus 8
Kosi 8
Ross 7 ..... 20% groundtime (last qtr)
Grimes 5 ..... 54% groundtime
Green 4 ..... 30% groundtime (second half)
Ryan 4 ..... 59% groundtime
Miller 3 ..... 25% groundtime (last qtr)
Lefau 2 ..... 25% groundtime (last qtr)
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6110#player-stats
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Dow, Gibcus & McAullife in the VFL highlights of the day..... :shh
Kozi's a dud...Balta foward will be a bust...Samson looked better than both of of them and don't rate him as a forward either...rather just get games into Fawcett and promote May in the MSD if we have a spot...
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Gonna be a long year .. just lay back and think of the draft picks.... :shh
do we even have any?
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Gonna be a long year .. just lay back and think of the draft picks.... :shh
do we even have any?
Based on last year's ladder position: 6, 25, 26, 39, 43, 44, 62, 70, 74, 80
A good hand with a few clubs needing points for father sons & academy players so there will be plenty of opportunities to trade up ...and that's before taking into account whether or not we trade out any players for even more picks... :shh
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Gonna be a long year .. just lay back and think of the draft picks.... :shh
do we even have any?
Based on last year's ladder position: 6, 25, 26, 39, 43, 44, 62, 70, 74, 80
A few clubs will need points to for father sons & academy players so there will be plenty of opportunities to trade up ...and that's befire taking into account whether we trade out any players for even more picks... :shh
we need multiple top 10 picks imo, if not top 5. Can’t escape having to hit the draft to rebuild
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Frees 23-8
I see nothing has changed
1 free after half time
Not that's laughable
Talk about over handballing
When 4 of your top 5 possession winners have more handballs than kicks your in strife
Out F50 entries were diabolical
Why did our the majority of F50 entries go thprugh Kosi when he was constantly 1 out against at least 2 sometimes 3? Yes he had a poor game but his teammates didn't do him any favours
A couple of our Cubs did themselves no favours tonight in getting themselves a game in round 0
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I wouldn’t give the season away after one practice match
At the end of the day we played the reigning premiers , in that context I didn’t think we were too bad
Couldn't agree more. If there's one thing that annoys me about commentators and supporters, it's drawing far-reaching conclusions from pre-season games, especially ones where we have a new coach, system, players etc and we are playing the reigning premiers.
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Dow, Gibcus & McAullife in the VFL highlights of the day..... :shh
Kozi's a dud...Balta foward will be a bust...Samson looked better than both of of them and don't rate him as a forward either...rather just just get games into Fawcett and promote May in the MSD if we have a spot...
So McAualiffe played well in the VFL?
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I was at the game and there were patches where we looked fantastic
Other times we looked 2nd rate. Our over the top handballing was the killer IMHO
As always I'll be interested to see what the replay shows promise on some cases doesn't
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Dow, Gibcus & McAullife in the VFL highlights of the day..... :shh
Kozi's a dud...Balta foward will be a bust...Samson looked better than both of of them and don't rate him as a forward either...rather just just get games into Fawcett and promote May in the MSD if we have a spot...
So McAualiffe played well in the VFL?
2nd BOG after Sonzie IMO.... :shh
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Dow, Gibcus & McAullife in the VFL highlights of the day..... :shh
Kozi's a dud...Balta foward will be a bust...Samson looked better than both of of them and don't rate him as a forward either...rather just just get games into Fawcett and promote May in the MSD if we have a spot...
So McAualiffe played well in the VFL?
2nd BOG after Sonzie IMO.... :shh
Ok. That’s positive.
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I was at the game and there were patches where we looked fantastic
Other times we looked 2nd rate. Our over the top handballing was the killer IMHO
As always I'll be interested to see what the replay shows promise on some cases doesn't
Wallace-era Hospital stuff....Handball game only works when running in waves and we weren't...... :shh
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Just got home after the game.
A few take aways:
- Gibcus and Naismith brilliant positives. If anything these pros outway any negatives from a game in Feb. Gibcus game alone.
- Dusty looks up for it, made some awful errors trying silly things but it's Feb. Polish will come.
- Grimes played fairly well, which last year didn't look likely. Would love for him to finish a career on a high.
- Love the fisty stuff at end on Cox. He started it and deserved being roughed up. 7ft Jane.
- Forward line structure remains an enormous concern. It's raw and new so has a fair bit of leniancy but it's our biggest area of improvement. Lynch back will be enormous as we have said for 12 months. Issue is he is unlikely to be here in 3+ years time.
A game in Feb vs Premiers the result is meaningless. Good to see some slick passages of play. Long way to go.
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Richmond CBAs (Centre Bounce Attendances)
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https://twitter.com/aflratings/status/1762420091436843307
Richmond CBA Qtr breakdown
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https://twitter.com/aflratingsStats/status/1762422934503821668
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Bit of perspective guys we're in a rejuvenation period with a new coach not going happen right away.Yze would have learned heaps from the second half very beneficial. In saying that we got to do the basics right in respect to footy skills and hitting targets there not negotiable.Some old players who got a game still got there bad habits.
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I doubt the senior players cared.
Just going for a run.
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Just got home after the game.
A few take aways:
- Gibcus and Naismith brilliant positives. If anything these pros outway any negatives from a game in Feb. Gibcus game alone.
- Dusty looks up for it, made some awful errors trying silly things but it's Feb. Polish will come.
- Grimes played fairly well, which last year didn't look likely. Would love for him to finish a career on a high.
- Love the fisty stuff at end on Cox. He started it and deserved being roughed up. 7ft Jane.
- Forward line structure remains an enormous concern. It's raw and new so has a fair bit of leniancy but it's our biggest area of improvement. Lynch back will be enormous as we have said for 12 months. Issue is he is unlikely to be here in 3+ years time.t u
A game in Feb vs Premiers the result is meaningless. Good to see some slick passages of play. Long way to go.
Seeing Gibcus jumping for marks, landing and then bouncing straight up is great to see. Also, seeing him running hard is fantastic.
Hard not like Naismith, has agro but it's controlled (Nank take note), isn't a tortoise when he moves, not bad below the knees for a big bloke, a lock for OR versus GC
Yes, the 2nd half was average but for a praccy game where we are trying to bed down a new style of play the result wasn't a surprise.
Think I've posted it a few times the over use of handball was the killer
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Just got home after the game.
A few take aways:
- Gibcus and Naismith brilliant positives. If anything these pros outway any negatives from a game in Feb. Gibcus game alone.
- Dusty looks up for it, made some awful errors trying silly things but it's Feb. Polish will come.
- Grimes played fairly well, which last year didn't look likely. Would love for him to finish a career on a high.
- Love the fisty stuff at end on Cox. He started it and deserved being roughed up. 7ft Jane.
- Forward line structure remains an enormous concern. It's raw and new so has a fair bit of leniancy but it's our biggest area of improvement. Lynch back will be enormous as we have said for 12 months. Issue is he is unlikely to be here in 3+ years time.t u
A game in Feb vs Premiers the result is meaningless. Good to see some slick passages of play. Long way to go.
Seeing Gibcus jumping for marks, landing and then bouncing straight up is great to see. Also, seeing him running hard is fantastic.
Hard not like Naismith, has agro but it's controlled (Nank take note), isn't a tortoise when he moves, not bad below the knees for a big bloke, a lock for OR versus GC
Yes, the 2nd half was average but for a praccy game where we are trying to bed down a new style of play the result wasn't a surprise.
Think I've posted it a few times the over use of handball was the killer
Being at the game, what did you make of the spread of our mids ? Watching it we just looked so slow with Dow appearing to be the only one with a bit of agility about him. You can only have so many the likes of Hopper, Taranto, Graham, Prestia in your team
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Being at the game, what did you make of the spread of our mids ? Watching it we just looked so slow with Dow appearing to be the only one with a bit of agility about him. You can only have so many the likes of Hopper, Taranto, Graham, Prestia in your team
Have to say I think we didn't get the centre square set up right most of the time. You highlighted the issue, the spread was strange. IMV you can't have Taranto, Prestia and Hopper at centre bounces at the same time. Graham didn't take many centre clearances. Which I'll confess confused me after it worked the week before, so drop him out of the conversation. Dusty didn't spend as much time in there as been hyped he would.
If the set ups we saw last night is what we're planning for the season proper then we are going to struggle. We clearly lack pace and if we are going to over use handball to clear then the struggles are going to be magnified
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Graham had precisely zero clearances last week so not sure exactly how it "worked".... :shh
We have a few quicker players on the list now and should be playing everyone who's not named Hugo as much as possible... :shh :shh
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Graham had precisely zero clearances last week so not sure exactly how it "worked".... :shh
We have a few quicker players on the list now and should be playing everyone who's not named Hugo as much as possible... :shh :shh
0 tackles as well
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Graham had precisely zero clearances last week so not sure exactly how it "worked".... :shh
We have a few quicker players on the list now and should be playing everyone who's not named Hugo as much as possible... :shh :shh
0 tackles as well
Last night or last week?
I thought there were no individual stats after the match simulation against the Demons?
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Being at the game, what did you make of the spread of our mids ? Watching it we just looked so slow with Dow appearing to be the only one with a bit of agility about him. You can only have so many the likes of Hopper, Taranto, Graham, Prestia in your team
Have to say I think we didn't get the centre square set up right most of the time. You highlighted the issue, the spread was strange. IMV you can't have Taranto, Prestia and Hopper at centre bounces at the same time. Graham didn't take many centre clearances. Which I'll confess confused me after it worked the week before, so drop him out of the conversation. Dusty didn't spend as much time in there as been hyped he would.
If the set ups we saw last night is what we're planning for the season proper then we are going to struggle. We clearly lack pace and if we are going to over use handball to clear then the struggles are going to be magnified
I just said Graham too because he has similar drawbacks to those players. I suppose my worry is I’m not even sure you can have hopper and Taranto together. 1 extractor like
Taranto, 1 classy player like dusty and one fast run and spread player like Dow ( wish we had a better option ) sort of like Mitchell, de goey and daicos or Oliver, petracca and viney
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But tarranto is meant to be fast though right? He comfortably won our 2km. I guess his kicking inside 50 got criticism so they’re wary of him playing outside mid but surely with his tank you’d find a way to make it work?
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Taranto is far from the ‘slow’ player he is being made out to be. He is perfectly capable of bursting out of packs and spreading for a handball receive.
I do think that our midfield would work best with more or less always having 1 of dusty or bolts in there. Don’t see why that can’t be done either, they can just both rotate with each other through the midfield and forward lines.
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Taranto is far from the ‘slow’ player he is being made out to be. He is perfectly capable of bursting out of packs and spreading for a handball receive.
I do think that our midfield would work best with more or less always having 1 of dusty or bolts in there. Don’t see why that can’t be done either, they can just both rotate with each other through the midfield and forward lines.
That's why I was confused on Tuesday night.
We were told that Dusty was going to be mainly mid-field this year, that's what we've been told. So why didn't he start there more often? We were told Shai would have bursts so that played out as expected. But the lack of Dusty at centre bounces was for me at least perplexing
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"Highlights" :-\
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1496965/highlights-community-series-v-collingwood
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LOL - how many frees were missed in those lowlights. stuffen joke
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I'm not sure why the umps bothered turning up ... other than to pay frees to Collingwood ... :-\
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I was at the game and there were patches where we looked fantastic
Other times we looked 2nd rate. Our over the top handballing was the killer IMHO
As always I'll be interested to see what the replay shows promise on some cases doesn't
Wallace-era Hospital stuff....Handball game only works when running in waves and we weren't...... :shh
I absolutely agree and it was the most glaring thing that I took out of the whole game.
Handballs should be a second nature basic skill for any player, especially any in the system more than 2 years. There's really no excuse you can give as to why so many handpasses in one game are either ineffective and complete turnovers.
Wallace was a blowhard and loved the look of his own reflection but he couldn't raise the standards above pee poor and he wonders why during his tenure we had 0 finals appearances.
It would work if a professional footballer getting over 100k a year minimum to play a game of footy and get to train full time at a high class facility, could just do the basic fundamentals of the game to a professional standard.
It's like if a qualified electrician couldn't wire in an oven or if a plumber had trouble installing a new mixer tap or if a chef couldn't cook a medium rare steak.
Hardwick, after 2016, with first class leadership, was able to cultivate an environment of excellence even to the point of embracing deficiencies, but we were able to have ultimate success when culture demanded a professional commitment to a particular skill-set and there was none better than us in the whole competition.
There is just no excuses to poor skills especially when there is no pressure applied.
If Yze isn't going to demand excellence in the basic fundament skills of the game then he may as well pack it in because he is kidding himself and our team.
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The most glaring thing to me was team selection
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I was at the game and there were patches where we looked fantastic
Other times we looked 2nd rate. Our over the top handballing was the killer IMHO
As always I'll be interested to see what the replay shows promise on some cases doesn't
Wallace-era Hospital stuff....Handball game only works when running in waves and we weren't...... :shh
I absolutely agree and it was the most glaring thing that I took out of the whole game.
Handballs should be a second nature basic skill for any player, especially any in the system more than 2 years. There's really no excuse you can give as to why so many handpasses in one game are either ineffective and complete turnovers.
Wallace was a blowhard and loved the look of his own reflection but he couldn't raise the standards above pee poor and he wonders why during his tenure we had 0 finals appearances.
It would work if a professional footballer getting over 100k a year minimum to play a game of footy and get to train full time at a high class facility, could just do the basic fundamentals of the game to a professional standard.
It's like if a qualified electrician couldn't wire in an oven or if a plumber had trouble installing a new mixer tap or if a chef couldn't cook a medium rare steak.
Hardwick, after 2016, with first class leadership, was able to cultivate an environment of excellence even to the point of embracing deficiencies, but we were able to have ultimate success when culture demanded a professional commitment to a particular skill-set and there was none better than us in the whole competition.
There is just no excuses to poor skills especially when there is no pressure applied.
If Yze isn't going to demand excellence in the basic fundament skills of the game then he may as well pack it in because he is kidding himself and our team.
Post of the year to date. As to the premiership years we came up with a system that allowed for a lot of role players to perform that role. Now that the system is worked out we are left with our fair share of premiership players who are well just plain deficient.
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The most glaring thing to me was team selection
Too slow & looked disturbingly like a continuation of Hardwick & Mini's selection criteria...can cop a losing season getting games into the kids but not with the same old has-beens & plodders....... :shh
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Not sure you can put the poor skills on Yze or the handball crap. That's been there for the last 2 years. Players who can't hit a target or have poor skills need to be weaned out of this team seniors or not. That's not negotiable for me.
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I was at the game and there were patches where we looked fantastic
Other times we looked 2nd rate. Our over the top handballing was the killer IMHO
As always I'll be interested to see what the replay shows promise on some cases doesn't
Wallace-era Hospital stuff....Handball game only works when running in waves and we weren't...... :shh
I absolutely agree and it was the most glaring thing that I took out of the whole game.
Handballs should be a second nature basic skill for any player, especially any in the system more than 2 years. There's really no excuse you can give as to why so many handpasses in one game are either ineffective and complete turnovers.
Wallace was a blowhard and loved the look of his own reflection but he couldn't raise the standards above pee poor and he wonders why during his tenure we had 0 finals appearances.
It would work if a professional footballer getting over 100k a year minimum to play a game of footy and get to train full time at a high class facility, could just do the basic fundamentals of the game to a professional standard.
It's like if a qualified electrician couldn't wire in an oven or if a plumber had trouble installing a new mixer tap or if a chef couldn't cook a medium rare steak.
Hardwick, after 2016, with first class leadership, was able to cultivate an environment of excellence even to the point of embracing deficiencies, but we were able to have ultimate success when culture demanded a professional commitment to a particular skill-set and there was none better than us in the whole competition.
There is just no excuses to poor skills especially when there is no pressure applied.
If Yze isn't going to demand excellence in the basic fundament skills of the game then he may as well pack it in because he is kidding himself and our team.
There's no excuse for poor skills when no pressure applied agree 100% , but we have to many players who.have poor skills or struggle to hit targets you either got it or not simple as that.
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The most glaring thing to me was team selection
Too slow & looked disturbingly like a continuation of Hardwick & Mini's selection criteria...can cop a losing season getting games into the kids but not with the same old has-beens & plodders....... :shh
Yup. Surely some of the cubs are getting in over kmac, Graham, Ross, Pickett and the likes.
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The most glaring thing to me was team selection
Too slow & looked disturbingly like a continuation of Hardwick & Mini's selection criteria...can cop a losing season getting games into the kids but not with the same old has-beens & plodders....... :shh
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The most glaring thing to me was team selection
Too slow & looked disturbingly like a continuation of Hardwick & Mini's selection criteria...can cop a losing season getting games into the kids but not with the same old has-beens & plodders....... :shh
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Ive seen nothing so far to suggest much will change. If it werent for grahams injury he would be selected with grimes and pickett. Crazy