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Title: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: one-eyed on June 16, 2024, 09:49:45 AM
Yze post-game said Hopper will be back after the bye for the Carlton game.


Fire away with your changes?


Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Simonator on June 16, 2024, 10:04:50 AM
You just know McAuliffe will get dropped for Hopper.

What’s the point in playing Dow at this stage ? I think you know what you’re gonna get. Has shown minimal improvement but just gets given game after game.

I know many are against it but I would also look at Balta forward again with Lynch back in the side and Blight to come in to play back. Balta forward also let’s him pinch hit in the ruck. He has been really solid down back but I just think he can be more valuable around the ground and we have recruited blight for a reason, may as well play him.

Would also look at Bauer as a 3rd tall fwd. Wouldnt hurt to have a bit more structure around the flanks rather than Kosi and a bunch of smalls.

Sonsie is being played out of position but just isn’t impacting. With hopper in he stands no chance of getting a run in the midfield.

Kosi seemed a touch better but still isn’t the answer.

I would go with

Out: Kosi, Dow, Sonsie
In: Blight, Hopper, Bauer
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Andyy on June 16, 2024, 10:53:30 AM
Out:
Dow
Graham
Sonsie

In:
Hopper
Blight
Bauer
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 16, 2024, 11:28:31 AM
Any injuries either game?
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Tiger_In_Sicily on June 16, 2024, 03:00:10 PM
At this stage, pick one is priority.
No changes..just need to keep losing
Maybe put Lynch on ice for the season and Prestia.
2025 preparation must be in full motion now
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Damo on June 16, 2024, 03:10:08 PM
At this stage, pick one is priority.
No changes..just need to keep losing
Maybe put Lynch on ice for the season and Prestia.
2025 preparation must be in full motion now

Agree with you
All about pick one now

We should try and win one more game for the year if that won’t jeopardise pick one (Fremantle)

I’d still make changes though .. I’d bring in every kid that they foresee being on the list next year

The whole lot
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 16, 2024, 04:38:11 PM

I’d still make changes though .. I’d bring in every kid that they foresee being on the list next year

The whole lot

Think we're already doing that

Look at Dow (I hope Dio doesn't mind but need to add this)  :shh

 ;D
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 16, 2024, 04:43:09 PM

I’d still make changes though .. I’d bring in every kid that they foresee being on the list next year

The whole lot

Think we're already doing that

Look at Dow (I hope Dio doesn't mind but need to add this)  :shh

 ;D

If the draft is our priority then Dow should be first picked..... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Damo on June 16, 2024, 04:53:26 PM

I’d still make changes though .. I’d bring in every kid that they foresee being on the list next year

The whole lot

Think we're already doing that

Look at Dow (I hope Dio doesn't mind but need to add this)  :shh

 ;D

Smith
Blight
Tresize
Bauer

Etc

Play em and see what we’ve got in them
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: The Machine on June 16, 2024, 06:47:58 PM

I’d still make changes though .. I’d bring in every kid that they foresee being on the list next year

The whole lot

Think we're already doing that

Look at Dow (I hope Dio doesn't mind but need to add this)  :shh

 ;D

If the draft is our priority then Dow should be first picked..... :shh

Think Cumberland is your man then :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 16, 2024, 08:03:08 PM
My blinkers
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 16, 2024, 08:36:44 PM

I’d still make changes though .. I’d bring in every kid that they foresee being on the list next year

The whole lot

Think we're already doing that

Look at Dow (I hope Dio doesn't mind but need to add this)  :shh

 ;D

If the draft is our priority then Dow should be first picked..... :shh

Think Cumberland is your man then :shh

Hmm rising star nom,  33 goals in 23 games v the scared little speed bump who can't kick and has done stuff all in 31 games..... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: pmac21 on June 16, 2024, 08:38:17 PM
Cumbo & Mansell out. 
No idea who comes in but Blight looked good in the 2s. 
Hopper should come back through the reserves. 

 
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: the claw on June 17, 2024, 06:04:05 PM
Not a lot has changed for me my team again with promising  kids deserving a game while dropping those who are never going to take us anywhere and some who are just badly out of form.

Broad - Miller - Vlastuin
Smith - Blight - Brown

Trezise* - Taranto* - D Rioli*
Nankervis - McAuliffe* - Baker*

Campbell* - Balta - Coulthard
Bauer - Lynch - Bolton*

Martin* - Hopper* - Banks* - Prestia*

Ralphsmith*

Outs - Graham, Short, Dow, McIntosh, Koschitzke, Mansell, Cumberland, Sonsie.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: The Machine on June 17, 2024, 07:40:52 PM

I’d still make changes though .. I’d bring in every kid that they foresee being on the list next year

The whole lot

Think we're already doing that

Look at Dow (I hope Dio doesn't mind but need to add this)  :shh

 ;D

If the draft is our priority then Dow should be first picked..... :shh

Think Cumberland is your man then :shh

Hmm rising star nom,  33 goals in 23 games v the scared little speed bump who can't kick and has done stuff all in 31 games..... :shh


Cumberland runs around where the ball isn’t….time to give up and go bush.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 17, 2024, 07:53:54 PM

I’d still make changes though .. I’d bring in every kid that they foresee being on the list next year

The whole lot

Think we're already doing that

Look at Dow (I hope Dio doesn't mind but need to add this)  :shh

 ;D

If the draft is our priority then Dow should be first picked..... :shh

Think Cumberland is your man then :shh

Hmm rising star nom,  33 goals in 23 games v the scared little speed bump who can't kick and has done stuff all in 31 games..... :shh


Cumberland runs around where the ball isn’t….time to give up and go bush.

Yet has somehow still managed to kick 33 goals in 23 games being where the ball isn't...as for Dow, we're far better off when he's where the ball isn't... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 17, 2024, 09:02:18 PM
Hopper, Bauer and Blight in

Dow, Cumberland, Sonsie out

Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: the claw on June 17, 2024, 09:09:38 PM
I like so many others think Dow is a bust. The real concern what young mid is there outside of McAuliffe who they refuse to give a full game to anyway.

Dow keeps getting games because the pickings are so slim. He lacks in too many areas and these deficiencies are why he won't make it unless he can be reinvented somehow. Good luck with that.
He does alright when he can hit the ball on the edges of contests but he is a total liability in tight and on the spread his lack of penetration kicking and one sidesness with a lack of pace means he is unlikey to ever be anything but an on the edge mid.

Cumberland well hes had 14 touches in three games. I got lambasted last week because i dared ask what happens if he doesnt kick some goals.
This week no goals and 4 disposals no goals to salvage his game. His game is lacking but we cannot say it.

I felt sorry for him this week he is only 183cm he's a small medium player  and he got belted in the air on saturday i can only assume we were hoping he could take some marks. He is a small forward and needs the ball on the ground end of story. That aside i loike the thought of a goal kicking small fwd but we are not getting enough in other areas most of the time.

One concern was just how opponents ran away from him.

WE need goal kicking small forwards but we need them to be more than that. We need tackling quick defensive small forwards but we need them to be more than that.

Our small forwards imo just don't tick enough boxes.

Instead of slanging matches about how bad each player is how about a bit of common sense and just acknowledge that both atm are lacking in too many areas.Personally i think its time to cut our losses and move on with both.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: sdc01 on June 18, 2024, 06:53:02 PM
is Joel Garner eligible? if so i reckon he should be given  go...as well asSsmith
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 18, 2024, 08:44:53 PM
is Joel Garner eligible? if so i reckon he should be given  go...as well asSsmith

Garner is on our VFL list not AFL so no; he's not an option
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: mat073 on June 19, 2024, 08:55:53 PM
Pick Blight already
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 19, 2024, 09:01:42 PM
is Joel Garner eligible? if so i reckon he should be given  go...as well asSsmith

Garner is on our VFL list not AFL so no; he's not an option

Worth a rookie pick - especially if we lose a lot of experience in the off season....would also help balance out the age profile a bit...though I'm told he's more interested in pursuing a career in coaching....:shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: the claw on June 20, 2024, 01:18:46 PM
9 players who have been heavily criticised or more to the point continue to be heavily criticised its been the same forever. they play too many below par games then have a decent game or two then its back to normal.
The decent games are the aberrations. They most weeks fail to have enough impact in a game.

The 9 most guilty of this this year who are in the team  are  Cumberland, Short, Graham, Dow, Sonsie, McIntosh, Mansell, Ralphsmith and Kossie. Outside of Sonsie who im yet to give up on, if the rest were cut it would not matter i cant see them being a part of any future successful team we may build.

What do we actually lose if most of them do not get a game this week?

Prestia for Dow. its a huge upgrade despite Prestia's body and longevity..
Hopper for Graham. same as above.
McAuliffe for Sonsie getting a full game.
Trezise for McIntosh. Enough is enough.
Smith for Shortsteps poos his pants.
Blight for Kossie  and Balta to chf no brainer atm.
Bauer for Cumberland.

Mansell is at least giving some defensive fwd pressure besides there is no one else putting their hand up for a sml fwd shot..
Ralpgsmith or Banks to sub

What do we lose? imo nothing.

The team would look like this with seven changes

Vlastuin - Miller - Broad
Brown - Blight - Smith

Rioli - Taranto - Trezise
Nankervis - McAuliffe - Baker

Campbell - Balta - Mansell
Bauer - Lynch - Bolton

Martin - Hopper - Prestia - Ralpsmith/Kossie

Ralphsmith/Banks

Is that not the way forward. Have the ins not put their hand up. Have those dropped really done enough consistently enough.

Imo if everyone was fit the only three id have in contention outside of that team would be Gibcus, Lefau, and Ross.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 21, 2024, 08:20:11 PM
What's with the love for Trezise?

Cant see it myself.  :help
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Andyy on June 21, 2024, 09:07:24 PM
What's with the love for Trezise?

Cant see it myself.  :help

Neither. He'll get delisted IMO.

Wasted pick on a player type we simply don't need.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 21, 2024, 09:49:01 PM
What's with the love for Trezise?

Cant see it myself.  :help

Neither. He'll get delisted IMO.

Wasted pick on a player type we simply don't need.

x3
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Tiger Khosh on June 21, 2024, 09:56:08 PM
What's with the love for Trezise?

Cant see it myself.  :help

Neither. He'll get delisted IMO.

Wasted pick on a player type we simply don't need.

x3

Never been too impressed watching him play. Handful of players I think are better options at half back flank than him. Like others though I think we need to give him atleast a few games and then make a decision at end of season.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 21, 2024, 10:17:40 PM
Watching Carlton against Geelong, we are in big trouble next week.

Plus really enjoying them giving Geelong a touch up
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: the claw on June 21, 2024, 10:54:06 PM
188cm still putting on size.

Goes hard,always competes and actually gets a lot of hbg. Lays tackles that stick is strong in the contest and is very good over head.
He has good pace and covers the ground real well.
Last he is very good at what all defenders should be that is he defends real well.

The only knock i can see is his kicking can be a bit scratchy at times, in saying that he plays with composure with ball in hand.

His debut game was fantastic and his second game was very servicable until he was injured in March.. Tough assignment as well playing on Ports Marshall and doing okay giving away so much height. Marshall got off the chain after Trezise went off.

He did not play another game until May and has mostly been given run with or specific stopping roles since.

He is a player we really need to look at imo of course. People have goes at me for supposedly writing players off too quickly which is  a falsehood.  im not writing anyone off after just two games in which he showed plenty and coming from a country league such a short time ago.  Because of injury hes basically been playing for us just over a season.  Seems others are but somehow manage to back in blokes who have been there for years and still struggle.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 21, 2024, 11:41:28 PM
lmao you regularly write off kids after 5 minutes...hell you've even been known to write 'em off on draft night... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: the claw on June 22, 2024, 01:13:24 PM
lmao you regularly write off kids after 5 minutes...hell you've even been known to write 'em off on draft night... :shh

Nope just not the case. Unlike your good self. See the above lmfao.
 prefering other players on draft night to the ones we took is not writing them off thats a simple preference for another player or another type. Most ten year olds can make that distinction but not all it seems. ;)
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: The Machine on June 22, 2024, 08:08:03 PM
188cm still putting on size.

Goes hard,always competes and actually gets a lot of hbg. Lays tackles that stick is strong in the contest and is very good over head.
He has good pace and covers the ground real well.
Last he is very good at what all defenders should be that is he defends real well.

The only knock i can see is his kicking can be a bit scratchy at times, in saying that he plays with composure with ball in hand.

His debut game was fantastic and his second game was very servicable until he was injured in March.. Tough assignment as well playing on Ports Marshall and doing okay giving away so much height. Marshall got off the chain after Trezise went off.

He did not play another game until May and has mostly been given run with or specific stopping roles since.

He is a player we really need to look at imo of course. People have goes at me for supposedly writing players off too quickly which is  a falsehood.  im not writing anyone off after just two games in which he showed plenty and coming from a country league such a short time ago.  Because of injury hes basically been playing for us just over a season.  Seems others are but somehow manage to back in blokes who have been there for years and still struggle.


Spot on Claw. Trezies has a bright future and is trending in the right direction.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: the claw on June 24, 2024, 06:18:18 PM
 Broad - Miller - Vlastuin
Smith - Blight - Brown

Rioli - Taranto - Trezise
Nankervis - McAuliffe - Baker

Mansell - Balta - Campbell
Bauer - Koschitzke - Bolton

Martin - Prestia - Hopper - Ralphsmith

Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: The Machine on June 24, 2024, 06:38:09 PM
Could we use Trezise as a tagger?
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: eliminator on June 24, 2024, 06:47:13 PM
Not sure whether they will risk bringing in Hopper. Without Lynch need to try something different. Would be good if they brought in Smith Tresize and Blight.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: one-eyed on June 25, 2024, 05:25:56 PM
Hopper is the only one of our long list of injured to be returning this week.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: one-eyed on June 25, 2024, 05:33:04 PM
Team Tips:

Spearhead Tom Lynch has suffered a fresh injury setback, with the Tigers’ talisman falling victim to another hamstring injury following Richmond’s Round 14 loss to Hawthorn. While it’s the opposite hamstring to the one he injured earlier in the year, it’s yet another blow for Adem Yze’s embattled brigade. With Jacob Koschitzke already back in the fold, Mykelti Lefau out for the season and Samson Ryan (ankle) now unavailable for a couple of weeks, could Noah Balta be set for another shift forward? Shai Bolton (corked quad) and Jack Graham (hamstring) are seemingly available for Sunday’s bout with the in-form Blues, with neither listed on the club’s Tuesday injury report. In positive news, Jacob Hopper (hamstring) is available for selection and plotting a return this Sunday, while Dion Prestia (calf) is looking at Round 17 or 18 before he is potentially recalled.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2024-round-16-team-tips-predicted-sides-and-squads-ins-and-outs-team-changes-injuries-returns-latest-team-news/news-story/e87adf46794d972c2cd6757fd9a821a5
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Willy on June 27, 2024, 05:49:47 PM
Blight is debuting.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Simonator on June 27, 2024, 06:01:00 PM
Right move ! Balta fwd.

Just quietly this is one of the stronger teams we’ll present this year imo. Not saying much but there’d be nothing to make me happier than beating the blues as the heavy underdogs
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: one-eyed on June 27, 2024, 06:18:38 PM
Yze is considering the 22-year-old Blight after two strong performances in the VFL, with Noah Balta an option in attack again.

"so we might have to get creative with our talls this week. We are struggling with talls at the moment" - Yze.

Source: AFL website
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Siberian on June 27, 2024, 08:24:00 PM
Right move ! Balta fwd.

Just quietly this is one of the stronger teams we’ll present this year imo. Not saying much but there’d be nothing to make me happier than beating the blues as the heavy underdogs
I'd rather Nank forward and Balta and Kosi ruck
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 27, 2024, 09:22:44 PM
Right move ! Balta fwd.

Just quietly this is one of the stronger teams we’ll present this year imo. Not saying much but there’d be nothing to make me happier than beating the blues as the heavy underdogs
I'd rather Nank forward and Balta and Kosi ruck


Balta is not a forward's aersehole....high time people faced the facts.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 28, 2024, 12:52:44 AM
Right move ! Balta fwd.

Just quietly this is one of the stronger teams we’ll present this year imo. Not saying much but there’d be nothing to make me happier than beating the blues as the heavy underdogs
I'd rather Nank forward and Balta and Kosi ruck


Balta is not a forward's aersehole....high time people faced the facts.... :shh
There are forwards and there are backs, sometimes you can make a forward out of a back, and sometimes you can make a back out of a forward, and not to be backward, moving forward, Noah is a back …. IMVHO
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Wazza on June 28, 2024, 01:28:26 AM
Poor Balta. His development was halted due to his moving back and fwd crap in the past and they are doing it again. Leave him back and develop him into the next greatest backman.
Stop gap filling RFC because you didn't draft KPFs to develop in the first place.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Simonator on June 28, 2024, 08:11:26 AM
Right move ! Balta fwd.

Just quietly this is one of the stronger teams we’ll present this year imo. Not saying much but there’d be nothing to make me happier than beating the blues as the heavy underdogs
I'd rather Nank forward and Balta and Kosi ruck


Balta is not a forward's aersehole....high time people faced the facts.... :shh

I think Balta is a bit better than a forwards hole, but that’s not the point. He’s just the best we have atm. In an ideal world he would play back and we would have some form of a key forward putting their hand up, but that’s not happening. 

I did have the thought though that maybe both balta and blight will play back to take on curnow and McKay, otherwise we are left with probably broad on curnow who would just get towelled up imo.
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 28, 2024, 01:40:38 PM
Actually think Balta's best position-or at least where he can have the most influence on the game and do the most damage in the shortest amount of time - is in the ruck... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Wazza on June 28, 2024, 06:34:07 PM
Actually think Balta's best position-or at least where he can have the most influence on the game and do the most damage in the shortest amount of time - is in the ruck... :shh

Yes, you have a point. He is amazing to watch in the ruck and almost does it all himself. Don't reckon he can do that all game tho. But definitely should have short spells there at times  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 28, 2024, 08:12:29 PM
Actually think Balta's best position-or at least where he can have the most influence on the game and do the most damage in the shortest amount of time - is in the ruck... :shh

Agree with this Dio

In the ruck due to his athleticism it basically means we have another mid fielder
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 28, 2024, 08:58:07 PM
Doesn’t have the engine
Title: Re: Changes for the Carlton game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 28, 2024, 09:06:21 PM
Doesn’t have the engine

Key point is " shortest amount of time". He gives us a massive boost when he gives Nank a chopout