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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: WilliamPowell on July 31, 2024, 02:08:10 PM
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AFL Round 21
N0rt Melbourne vs RICHMOND
Saturday, 3rd August 2024 @ Marvel Stadium
Start time: 1:45 PM
Live on Foxrtel and Kayo
https://www.afl.com.au/fixture?Competition=1&Season=62&Round=975
Sports betting have N0rt as favourites
NM $1.67
Rich $2.21
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8 point game.
Battle of the spoon.
Must lose.
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Hope we win as I always do.
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North Melbourne v Richmond Preview
Jack Makeham
SEN
3 Aug 2024
It’s the battle for the wooden spoon on Saturday afternoon and with the loser finding themselves in pole position for the first overall draft pick, neither fanbase will be clamouring too strongly for a win.
The Kangaroos enter the clash riding the marginally better run of form, having claimed a win over the Suns back in Round 17 before dropping their next three.
Meanwhile Richmond arrives to Marvel on the crest of a six-game slide, having conceded a rough 108.3 points per game since their last win back in Round 13.
The Tigers’ porous defence will be a welcome sight for a North Melbourne outfit that has struggled mightily in attack all season, ranking 16th for average points per game and dead last for inside 50 efficiency.
The Roos haven’t had much luck against the Tigers recently, having just two wins against the yellow and black since 2016, with both of those coming at Marvel Stadium.
Richmond’s well-documented aversion to Marvel is reflected in the history books, not having tasted victory there since 2021.
However this will be their first visit to Docklands with Adem Yze at the helm, so there’s a chance a different leader results in a change in fortunes.
Regardless, this clash between the two bottom of the table teams is hard to call, likely coming down to whoever wants to escape the fate of the wooden spoon the most.
Tip: North Melbourne by 11 points.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/08/01/who-will-win-and-why-the-tips-and-predictions-for-afl-round-21/
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1st or 2nd pick doesn’t matter, let’s get a win
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NO LATE CHANGES
SUBSTITUTES
North Melbourne: Robert Hansen jnr
Richmond: Kamdyn McIntosh
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1184732/follow-it-live-north-melbourne-kangaroos-v-richmond-tigers-geelong-cats-v-adelaide-crows-collingwood-magpies-v-carlton-blues-port-adelaide-power-v-sydney-swans
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1st or 2nd pick doesn’t matter, let’s get a win
Matters
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Never seen a team with so many players scared of going for goal on the run from 50 :facepalm.
Finally, after about our fourth F50 chance, Green runs down a Roo and nails the goal :clapping.
7 - 0
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12 inside 50s for just one goal. Hey let's just bomb and hope :facepalm.
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Shai made that. Mansell goal.
15 - 0
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Hooray we had a long shot on the run! Well done Seth :clapping
21 - 7
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Bolton is the worst best player on a team ever
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All Tiger mids waiting forward of the ball as Norf run it out the front for a goal. Let's not protect the defensive side Tiges :facepalm.
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Quarter time
Richmond 3.4-22
North Melb. 2.2-14
Goals: Mansell, Green, Campbell.
Not hard to tell it's a game between the two bottom sides.
20 inside 50s in one quarter to us for just 3 goals. There's no plan nor connection forward of centre. A half decent side with that dominance would be 4-5 goals up.
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Seriuously Tiges! You could see that happening from a mile out. Just allow LDU to waltz out the front of the stoppage and kick the goal ::).
The lack of basic defensive discipline does my head in :banghead.
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Hopper and Taranto are not the answer going forward. Must be the least dynamic midfield in the comp. Just look at difference to north melb.
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Our brilliant goalkicking on display again ::).
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Finally! Brown makes up for his miss.
37 - 33
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At least we're lowering the eyes and hitting up targets in the last 5 mins going inside 50. Kosi goal.
43 - 39
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That was a mark/free to Brown ump ::).
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Again failure to do the basics defensively. Balta flew and missed and the ball gets over the back of the pack for another easy Norf goal :facepalm.
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We should be at least 4 goals up.
3 of the softest misses midway through that qtr could cost us the game :banghead
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Half-time
Richmond 3.4 6.10-46
North Melb. 2.2 7.3-45
Goals: Mansell, Green, Campbell, Koschitzke, Baker, Brown.
We make the easy look so difficult :P.
Feels like Norf will have a 15min patch in the second half which will hand pick 1 to us. As usual we're allergic to basic defensive positioning, tackling and of course kicking the ball between the two big sticks :help.
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Stats to HT:
Disposals: 174 - 202 .... (contested: 63 - 60)
Efficiency%: 80 - 70
Marks: 32 - 69
Tackles: 26 - 35 .... hello bruise free footy!
Clearances: 21 - 16 ..... ( centre: 5 - 4 )
Inside 50s: 21 - 34
In50 eff.%: 48 - 47
In50 marks: 3 - 6
Hitouts: 22 - 26
Frees: 7 - 4
Prestia 15 possies
D.Rioli 12
Taranto 12
Floss 12
Baker 10
Graham 10
Dusty 10
Hopper 9
Campbell 8
Kosi 8
Nank 8
Hugo 8
Banks 7
Bolton 7
Short 7
Broad 6
Mansell 6
Brown 5
Green 5
Miller 5
Trezise 3
Balta 1
Kmac 0 .... sub not used yet
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6070#player-stats
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Short playing another awesome game.. in line for most courageous player of the year .
It's also quite evident we need a big strong Ruckman.. can't believe they extended Nanks contract. Should have been a one year extension. He's being monstered by a Ruckman still in his nappy
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Nank tap to Baker out of the middle to Bolton 45 out. Has to kick through this one and so does.
52 - 45
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Mansell :facepalm. Open teammate 20m out yet just blindly tries the snap and misses badly.
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These umps are as clueless as the two teams. That was flat out HTB ::).
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Howler by Timmy :P. Short then didn't put his body behind the ball and just tried the toe tap.
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Jayden Short… WTF was that effort!!!
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Well done Hugo. Deserved that for the hard running to take the mark inside 50.
59 - 52
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2 terrific goals to Short for N0rt
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SHORT CAN SIMPLY JUST F OFF. USELESS C
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Green (ankle) subbed off for Kmac.
And we just literally hand an easy goal straight back to Norf :facepalm.
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Rioli with his legs taken out = no free ::).
Dumb handball by Dion though.
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Goal number 3 to Short :clapping
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We're a rabble this quarter.
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stuff Short off. He is poohouse
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Going by just 57% by foot as a team #unprofessional :thumbsdown.
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Kmac tackled without the ball in front of goal = no free ::).
Disgraceful umpiring against us this quarter.
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Kmac tackled without the ball in front of goal = no free ::).
Disgraceful umpiring against us this quarter.
We had 7 frees at halftime we now have 9
N0rt had 3 at hafltime, they now have 10
That's all
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Just woeful. Totally amateurish with and without the pill!
3/4 time
Richmond 3.4 6.10 8.12-60
North Melb. 2.2 7.3 12.6-78
Goals: Mansell, Green, Campbell, Koschitzke, Baker, Brown, Bolton, Ralphsmith.
Feels like Norf will have a 15min patch in the second half which will hand pick 1 to us.
And there it was.
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Kmac tackled without the ball in front of goal = no free ::).
Disgraceful umpiring against us this quarter.
We had 7 frees at halftime we now have 9
N0rt had 3 at hafltime, they now have 10
That's all
Yep WP. And once again it's the blatant frees to us which are not called by the fluro maggots >:(
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Pathetic qtr, pathetic effort
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Kosi in front cops one over the shoulder = no free! ::)
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Brown keeps the ball alive. Kosi goal.
66 - 78
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Senior players dusty and Prestia showing no defensive intensity or effort. Horrible example. Not to mention short as well… what hope do the young guys have
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When you constantly miss open targets under no pressure then you deserve to lose.
ps. The umps sure are wearing blue and white since half-time.
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Nankervis getting soundly thrashed again :banghead :help
Baker and Bolton looked to have already packed and are currently living in the sunshine of the Perth beaches. :help
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Short just goes to ground every contest. Campbell has just about been our best. Good game from him
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9.16 ::)
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LMAO! It's chaos but not in the good dynasty way :help.
Baker goal.
76 - 84
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Hello pick 1.
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If it wasn’t clear it is now. We are by far the worst team in the comp and with our list I don’t see it getting any better until we invest in the draft
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Our veterans have become so lazy and soft.
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How the stuff did our club go to poo so quickly. Gale is weak as pee
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More scoring shots plus 16 more inside 50s and yet still lose to fellow strugglers Norf who played crap because we were far worse than crap :thumbsdown.
Standards have dropped across the board on and off field that we have been an amateurish team. Our kicking efficiency was just 55% and for our mids it was as low as 25%. We're now a team of butchers with no structure or system who fail to do the basics with and without the footy. As bad as the dark days during the 37 year drought.
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More scoring shots plus 16 more inside 50s and yet still lose to fellow strugglers Norf who played crap because we were far worse than crap :thumbsdown.
Standards have dropped across the board on and off field that we have been an amateurish team. Our kicking efficiency was just 55% and for our mids it was as low as 25%. We're now a team of butchers with no structure or system who fail to do the basics with and without the footy. As bad as the dark days during the 37 year drought.
Yep midfield is just ugly to watch. Taranto and Hopper showing why GWS were happy to let them go.. only room for one of them IMO.
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How the stuff did our club go to poo so quickly. Gale is weak as pee
I mean it’s not uncommon right.
Lions last flag was 2003, by 2005 they were missing finals and other then 1 season where they tried the top up method that has also set us back, it took them 15 years to get back to contention.
Hawks last flag was 2015 and by 2017 they were missing finals other than 1 season again where they went down the top up route and failed. It’s now 9 seasons later and they may be back in the 8. My opinion is that they are over achieving and also doing themselves a disservice by finishing higher with a list that isn’t ready.
West Coast 2018 flag and by 2021 they were well and truly sliding.
Etc. etc.
And yes I’m aware of sides like Geelong and Sydney bucking that trend.
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How the stuff did our club go to poo so quickly. Gale is weak as pee
I mean it’s not uncommon right.
Lions last flag was 2003, by 2005 they were missing finals and other then 1 season where they tried the top up method that has also set us back, it took them 15 years to get back to contention.
Hawks last flag was 2015 and by 2017 they were missing finals other than 1 season again where they went down the top up route and failed. It’s now 9 seasons later and they may be back in the 8. My opinion is that they are over achieving and also doing themselves a disservice by finishing higher with a list that isn’t ready.
West Coast 2018 flag and by 2021 they were well and truly sliding.
Etc. etc.
And yes I’m aware of sides like Geelong and Sydney bucking that trend.
Building a Dynsaty team takes 4-5 good draft positions imo.
Geelong and Sydney remain competitive but dont win flags in a row. Id rather go the rebuild route, its exciting drafting and watching players like Jack, Cotch and dusty for 15 years
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How the stuff did our club go to poo so quickly. Gale is weak as pee
Hardwick copped out, did the dirty on the club and two GWS signings, Gale resigned, Dusty wants out, Rioli wants out, Baker wants out, Bolton wants out. That stuff spreads through a club at any level and infects it badly.
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Definitely one of the lowest points in the club's history.. unfortunately this is just the start of pain.
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Just had dinner and have calmed down a bit.
However, being a calmer now doesn't hide the disgust I have around today's effort.
27 scoring shots to 20 and we lose. Dominate the 1st qtr and don't put any scoreboard pressure on them
Last qtr 2 goals 5. Some of the easiest misses you'll ever see. Ditto in the 2nd. Game lost when we missed 3 sitters in a row.
As for our co-vice captain J. Short. He coughed up the ball alot but 3 stood out as the they gifted N0rt 3 of the easiest, softest goals. No wonder heads drop
I understand where we are at but I am sick of the school kid mistakes, the half hearted efforts from certain players and more than anything I'm sick of the excuses.
Today was totally unacceptable and rather just letting the coach face the media (though you could tell he was peeved today) it's about time the President surfaced and said something. All the Club has done this year has left it all to either Yze, Balmey or occasionally Benny. Time for the President to speak and say it's being last is unacceptable
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Would you rather be us, with a rebuild ahead. Or Sydney, on top of the ladder beaten by over 100 points. And lost 5 of the last 6. It’s crazy times in the afl
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Team stats:
Disposals: 354 - 407 .... ( contested: 118 - 124 ; uncontested: 234 - 277 )
Efficiency%: 70 - 81
Kicks: 177 - 239
Handballs: 177 - 168 ::)
Turnovers: 65 - 65
Marks: 67 - 128 .... ( contested marks: 4 - 13 ) :help
Tackles: 55 - 61 ::)
Clearances: 39 - 33 .... ( centre: 11 - 10 ; stoppages: 28 - 23 )
Inside 50s: 60 - 44 ::)
In50 eff.%: 47 - 48
In50 marks: 8 - 13
In50 tackles: 10 - 9
Hitouts: 43 - 50
Bounces: 6 - 11
One %ers: 47 - 37
Frees: 11 - 16
Individual possies:
Prestia 29
Taranto 27
Graham 24
Short 22
Baker 21
Floss 21
Hopper 20
D.Rioli 20
Broad 16
Dusty 16
Nank 16
Campbell 15
Banks 14
Miller 13
Bolton 12
Hugo 12
Kosi 12
Mansell 10
Brown 8
Trezise 8
Balta 7
Green 6 .... subbed off 3rd qtr
Kmac 5 ..... subbed on 3rd qtr
https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/6070#player-stats
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Just had dinner and have calmed down a bit.
However, being a calmer now doesn't hide the disgust I have around today's effort.
27 scoring shots to 20 and we lose. Dominate the 1st qtr and don't put any scoreboard pressure on them
Last qtr 2 goals 5. Some of the easiest misses you'll ever see. Ditto in the 2nd. Game lost when we missed 3 sitters in a row.
As for our co-vice captain J. Short. He coughed up the ball alot but 3 stood out as the they gifted N0rt 3 of the easiest, softest goals. No wonder heads drop
I understand where we are at but I am sick of the school kid mistakes, the half hearted efforts from certain players and more than anything I'm sick of the excuses.
Today was totally unacceptable and rather just letting the coach face the media (though you could tell he was peeved today) it's about time the President surfaced and said something. All the Club has done this year has left it all to either Yze, Balmey or occasionally Benny. Time for the President to speak and say it's being last is unacceptable
WP, take a panadol or 2. This year (and the next2) will be train wrecks....But in 4-5!!! Look at the bigger picture. Most of those playing today won't be there then.
Edited to correct post
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There was an indifference toward the game yesterday.
It was frankly a little bruise free from both sides with the game at the intensity of circle work.
We looked the better side for the most part but the Roos looked liked they wanted it more - fair enough as they have been a joke for 4 years. They’ve won 15 games in 5 years. There’s your context.
To bottom out properly is to rebuild. Anything else is just sooo Essendon.
If Rioli, Bolton and Baker want to go for 5 first rounders then I am all for it. Ideally get a couple next year so that we can pick up 3-4 of the best players in the next 2 drafts.
It’s the perfect platform to build back up as Tassie start to harvest all the young talent for the next 3 years after 2026.
Bigger picture always prevails and I see the next couple of years as an opportunity like we had from 2006 - 2009.
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stuff me why did we resign HRS. Got pantsed by Scott all day.
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WP, take a panadol or 2. This year (and the next2) will be train wrecks....But in 4-5!!! Look at the bigger picture. Most of those playing today won't be there then.
As I said I am well aware of where we are at right now. But when you walk away questioning effort then I have a major issue
Sometimes it not the loss but how you lose, yesterday is a case in point.
If it's going to ve train wreck then come out and say it, don't play games and just say it. The first bloke who should say it is Pur President who seems to be MIA during what is a bloody dark period for our Club
They want members and fans to kick in $$$ for the redevelopment then show the members and fans some respect and start being honest
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We're was the leadership from the senior group all went missing. Momentum killers Short and Taranto. Skills and kicking was amateur stuff. We got a few bad apples in our senior group not on the same need to go. Hopper ,Taranto, Prestia and Short horrible kicking.
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WP, take a panadol or 2. This year (and the next2) will be train wrecks....But in 4-5!!! Look at the bigger picture. Most of those playing today won't be there then.
As I said I am well aware of where we are at right now. But when you walk away questioning effort then I have a major issue
Sometimes it not the loss but how you lose, yesterday is a case in point.
If it's going to ve train wreck then come out and say it, don't play games and just say it. The first bloke who should say it is Pur President who seems to be MIA during what is a bloody dark period for our Club
They want members and fans to kick in $$$ for the redevelopment then show the members and fans some respect and start being honest
💯 first we have heard of anyone but Yze address the season about time. They have left Yze to the wolves the club at times.Livingstone 10 minutes of bs last week to. Let's hope they have the courage and balls to make hard calls because they don't it will set us back.
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Anyone considering the reality that it's not in our medium or long term interest to have won yesterday.
We aren't competing for spot 8. Only thing we have to compete for is pick 1. And we nailed that yesterday, either by design or by incompetence.
I'm not unhappy about it tbh.
Tassie coming soon and draft changes likely next year, so this is our only chance to clean up in a draft. We have loads of ammunition and will have more when we trade players out, unfortunate though that may be.
Need to look at the big picture here. We are very, very well positioned in an allegedly deep draft to set ourselves up for another dynasty.
Look at teams like North with kids like LDU, Wardlaw, Sheezel etc. This year we could pick up an entire midfield of that quality.
Get it done Tiges.
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WP, take a panadol or 2. This year (and the next2) will be train wrecks....But in 4-5!!! Look at the bigger picture. Most of those playing today won't be there then.
As I said I am well aware of where we are at right now. But when you walk away questioning effort then I have a major issue
Sometimes it not the loss but how you lose, yesterday is a case in point.
If it's going to ve train wreck then come out and say it, don't play games and just say it. The first bloke who should say it is Pur President who seems to be MIA during what is a bloody dark period for our Club
They want members and fans to kick in $$$ for the redevelopment then show the members and fans some respect and start being honest
Totally agree. President needs to stand up and start making a presence.
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Andy using North as an example is counterproductive to your point. They have been crap and playing for draft picks for how many seasons now and all of that to finish 17th.
I absolutely hate this notion that we need to finish last to properly start this rebuild. Like the difference between pick 1 and 2 is going to be the difference. Notice that the 3 players you mentioned for north, none of them were pick 1…..sheezel, LDU and wardlow all went at picks 3-4.
Tanking is loser talk and creates a horrible standard and environment that can set clubs back a decade.
What’s done is done now. We’ll have pick 1 and for everyone’s sake I well and truly hope that whoever is taken at that pick ends up being the clear standout from the rest of the draft.
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Andy using North as an example is counterproductive to your point. They have been crap and playing for draft picks for how many seasons now and all of that to finish 17th.
I absolutely hate this notion that we need to finish last to properly start this rebuild. Like the difference between pick 1 and 2 is going to be the difference. Notice that the 3 players you mentioned for north, none of them were pick 1…..sheezel, LDU and wardlow all went at picks 3-4.
Tanking is loser talk and creates a horrible standard and environment that can set clubs back a decade.
What’s done is done now. We’ll have pick 1 and for everyone’s sake I well and truly hope that whoever is taken at that pick ends up being the clear standout from the rest of the draft.
Not suggesting we tank. Just suggesting that winning is counterproductive.
At face value the draft pick values are the only measurable indication of a future outcome, so having P1 is a benefit to us.
North still crap but years ahead of us. Just like Hawthorn. It will click sooner than us.
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Andy using North as an example is counterproductive to your point. They have been crap and playing for draft picks for how many seasons now and all of that to finish 17th.
I absolutely hate this notion that we need to finish last to properly start this rebuild. Like the difference between pick 1 and 2 is going to be the difference. Notice that the 3 players you mentioned for north, none of them were pick 1…..sheezel, LDU and wardlow all went at picks 3-4.
Tanking is loser talk and creates a horrible standard and environment that can set clubs back a decade.
What’s done is done now. We’ll have pick 1 and for everyone’s sake I well and truly hope that whoever is taken at that pick ends up being the clear standout from the rest of the draft.
Yes Norf have been crap for years but they are starting to see the fruits of the high draft picks they have had in recent years.
Cotchin and Dustin (picks 2 & 3) were instrumental in our dynasty.
You can use high picks to rebuild if you nail them.
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Ofcourse high draft picks are essential and we need them badly.
But the narrative is we need pick 1 and if we had finished with pick 2 then it would have been a failure and imo that’s just not true at all.
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Ofcourse high draft picks are essential and we need them badly.
But the narrative is we need pick 1 and if we had finished with pick 2 then it would have been a failure and imo that’s just not true at all.
I get your point, but my view is that we're not challenging from the bottom 4 regardless, so we might aswell finish bottom and get pick one. Then all our later picks are one spot higher too.
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Of course high draft picks are essential and we need them badly.
But the narrative is we need pick 1 and if we had finished with pick 2 then it would have been a failure and imo that’s just not true at all.
I dont agree with all the talk along the lines of oh well this year pick one may as well be pick 5. it is a nonsense.
If im wrong and the MEDIA LOL are right then if we as a club are not trying to split pick one into say pick 4 and 8 then we are not doing due diligence. This to me is the only advantage pick one gives us. I think it is splitable.
There are two kids there id like to get my hands on before anyone gets a look at em.
A couple of simple sliding door moments.
1/ We manage to split #1 for 4 and 8 as an example. Me i want Smillie im happy to keep #1. But for the sliding door moment 4 and 8 it is. we may even need to add something.
We trade Dan Rioli to Dumwit for picks 6 and 20.
We trade Baker plus pick 33 to Freo for 12 and 25.
We get compo for Graham lets say pick 40.
We then bundle up 39, 51, 57, and 64 or some variation of this for a top 20 pick to a club who needs those picks.
It would leave the following picks.
4, 6, 8, 12, 19, 20, 21, 40,41, 72.
Not as mad as it seems imo. If its a real deep draft we could then look at the last 4 picks for future picks and strengthen our draft hand for the following season.
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12 inside 50s for just one goal. Hey let's just bomb and hope :facepalm.
Adem?
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Seriuously Tiges! You could see that happening from a mile out. Just allow LDU to waltz out the front of the stoppage and kick the goal ::).
The lack of basic defensive discipline does my head in :banghead.
Adem again.
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Hopper and Taranto are not the answer going forward. Must be the least dynamic midfield in the comp. Just look at difference to north melb.
Pace and explosive power totally lacking always has been well since the demise of Dusty.
Dow, Prestia, Graham lol, Taranto, Hopper Dusty it doesnt get any slower than that its been a problem for years.
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David King on Fox Footy's First Crack was critical of Yze's coaching by playing Prestia, Taranto and Hopper at the same time in the midfield and not mixing it up enough with others such as Bolton, Baker and even Dan Rioli.
Prestia 2 effective kicks from 10.
Taranto 4 effective kicks from 11.
Hopper 3 effective kicks from 8.
King pointed out that Baker won 2 centre clearances from the 6 times he was at a centrebounce yet in the last quarter he wasn't used.
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Of course high draft picks are essential and we need them badly.
But the narrative is we need pick 1 and if we had finished with pick 2 then it would have been a failure and imo that’s just not true at all.
I dont agree with all the talk along the lines of oh well this year pick one may as well be pick 5. it is a nonsense.
If im wrong and the MEDIA LOL are right then if we as a club are not trying to split pick one into say pick 4 and 8 then we are not doing due diligence. This to me is the only advantage pick one gives us. I think it is splitable.
There are two kids there id like to get my hands on before anyone gets a look at em.
A couple of simple sliding door moments.
1/ We manage to split #1 for 4 and 8 as an example. Me i want Smillie im happy to keep #1. But for the sliding door moment 4 and 8 it is. we may even need to add something.
We trade Dan Rioli to Dumwit for picks 6 and 20.
We trade Baker plus pick 33 to Freo for 12 and 25.
We get compo for Graham lets say pick 40.
We then bundle up 39, 51, 57, and 64 or some variation of this for a top 20 pick to a club who needs those picks.
It would leave the following picks.
4, 6, 8, 12, 19, 20, 21, 40,41, 72.
Not as mad as it seems imo. If its a real deep draft we could then look at the last 4 picks for future picks and strengthen our draft hand for the following season.
No Bolton trade?
I wonder if both Baker and Bolton want Freo for some success.
They have picks 8, 13, 16 and 25 and it won't be enough IMO. Maybe a future pick as well given 25 will be the last uncompromised draft.
Eagles have 3 and 23. Not enough for Bolton again but if they were silly enough to give us 3 + F1 I'd be inclined to give them Bolton and pay a bit piece of his wage to make them do it.
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David King on Fox Footy's First Crack was critical of Yze's coaching by playing Prestia, Taranto and Hopper at the same time in the midfield and not mixing it up enough with others such as Bolton, Baker and even Dan Rioli.
Prestia 2 effective kicks from 10.
Taranto 4 effective kicks from 11.
Hopper 3 effective kicks from 8.
King pointed out that Baker won 2 centre clearances from the 6 times he was at a centrebounce yet in the last quarter he wasn't used.
Probably because they’re all leaving
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Ofcourse high draft picks are essential and we need them badly.
But the narrative is we need pick 1 and if we had finished with pick 2 then it would have been a failure and imo that’s just not true at all.
I get your point, but my view is that we're not challenging from the bottom 4 regardless, so we might aswell finish bottom and get pick one. Then all our later picks are one spot higher too.
Great post because it’s facts.
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Ofcourse high draft picks are essential and we need them badly.
But the narrative is we need pick 1 and if we had finished with pick 2 then it would have been a failure and imo that’s just not true at all.
I get your point, but my view is that we're not challenging from the bottom 4 regardless, so we might aswell finish bottom and get pick one. Then all our later picks are one spot higher too.
Great post because it’s facts.
And hold all the power in the PSD
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Ofcourse high draft picks are essential and we need them badly.
But the narrative is we need pick 1 and if we had finished with pick 2 then it would have been a failure and imo that’s just not true at all.
I get your point, but my view is that we're not challenging from the bottom 4 regardless, so we might aswell finish bottom and get pick one. Then all our later picks are one spot higher too.
Great post because it’s facts.
And hold all the power in the PSD
Exactly.
Honestly sick of the dribble about loser mentality.
We are losers, period. We deserve the spoon.
If we want to get the club into contention again then we need to bring talent in. The best way to do that is by drafting. So we need the best draft hand.
FFS people just take a knee for 3 more games. The season ended months ago.
Even aside from all the sooking here, you think the players are going to put their balls on the line over the next few weeks? F to the no. They will jog around, take their money, try to avoid injuries etc. Just hanging for their summer holidays and some trade offers (for a few of them) so staying healthy and playing bruise-free footy to some extent is going to be their top priority, and no amount of coach or CEO chatter is going to change that.
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All I’m stating is that the obsession with pick 1 over pick 2 is being severely severely overstated and I’ve provided evidence from past drafts to support this.
All I’m getting in return is pretty much pick 1 is higher than pick 2 so it’s better, well duhhhh.
And please, gives us all the power in the PSD. Again there has been a very very select few cases where a player nominating for the PSD doesn’t go exactly where he wants, they can just prenegotiate their contract to ensure only their desired club takes them. There’s also only very few occasions were a player has left their current club high and dry to get to their preferred one for nothing in the PSD.
Again, what’s done is done. We will finish bottom because we are the worst side in the league and will be ‘rewarded’ with pick 1 for it. Just don’t tell me it’s the b all and end all of a rebuild without any evidence to back it up.
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I would split that pick 1 for 2 good picks inside the top 12.
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Ofcourse high draft picks are essential and we need them badly.
But the narrative is we need pick 1 and if we had finished with pick 2 then it would have been a failure and imo that’s just not true at all.
I get your point, but my view is that we're not challenging from the bottom 4 regardless, so we might aswell finish bottom and get pick one. Then all our later picks are one spot higher too.
Great post because it’s facts.
And hold all the power in the PSD
Bang on. Not to mention 1st pick of round 2 and 3 which are also damn fine picks
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Coaches Votes:
North Melbourne v Richmond
10 Luke Davies-Uniacke (NMFC)
5 Jackson Archer (NMFC)
5 Bailey Scott (NMFC)
5 Dion Prestia (RICH)
3 Liam Baker (RICH)
2 Tristan Xerri (NMFC)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1189961/coaches-votes-r21-carlton-blues-skipper-patrick-cripps-surges-as-big-guns-make-a-move-in-race-for-aflca-champion-player-award