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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Hard Roar Tiger on September 09, 2024, 06:18:37 PM
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Let’s get it done. 23 with outside pace to burn. Will be ready to rock and roll after a year off.
Think we sit back watching Cats and Pies duke it out for picks in the 20’s and then rock up with the pick 12 we get for Goldies academy pick (we have a heap of 3rd and 4the rounders to package up the deal).
And, if Doggied play hard ball (which I hope they do), we just get him in the December draft.
Win:Win
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Let’s get it done. 23 with outside pace to burn. Will be ready to rock and roll after a year off.
Think we sit back watching Cats and Pies duke it out for picks in the 20’s and then rock up with the pick 12 we get for Goldies academy pick (we have a heap of 3rd and 4the rounders to package up the deal).
And, if Doggied play hard ball (which I hope they do), we just get him in the December draft.
Win:Win
Mullet competition
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Gun player
Total flog though and I doubt he’d want to come to us anyway
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Pretty sure he is heading down the highway, will only get to us if a deal doesn’t get done I would suggest.
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Let’s stop the loser talk and start hustling him over. He lives in East Malvern, close to his family so get him playing at the home of football in front of 80k.
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Isn’t the rumour that because he’s a cotton on model he’s getting a brown paper bag from cotton on to play at geelong?
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Not a massive fan.
Absolutely butchers the ball which our team has enough of.
Seems to have things going on outside of football which I don’t think our club in its current state could help with.
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Not a massive fan.
Absolutely butchers the ball which our team has enough of.
Seems to have things going on outside of football which I don’t think our club in its current state could help with.
He’s instantly top 10 on our list. Costs us nothing. Enough of the loser talk. Let’s improve it now.
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Not a massive fan.
Absolutely butchers the ball which our team has enough of.
Seems to have things going on outside of football which I don’t think our club in its current state could help with.
He’s instantly top 10 on our list. Costs us nothing. Enough of the loser talk. Let’s improve it now.
Your being very optimistic that he’s going to make it to the PSD if that’s what you mean by costs is nothing. As has been pointed out in the baker thread it very rarely happens. That’s not loser talk, that just being realistic. If he somehow does make it there then sure, but if your considering that then I guess it’s only fair to consider baker walking too.
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Walk him to PSD like Houli
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Let’s stop the loser talk and start hustling him over. He lives in East Malvern, close to his family so get him playing at the home of football in front of 80k.
And supposedly looking at properties down on the surf coast
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We all need a beach house to get away from the big smoke Willy.
Besides, if Cats give him what he wants then as the song goes “If you can’t be with the one you love honey, love the one your with (at Tigerland)”
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Let’s stop the loser talk and start hustling him over. He lives in East Malvern, close to his family so get him playing at the home of football in front of 80k.
And supposedly looking at properties down on the surf coast
Brett Delidio did the same thing.
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Money talks.
We got lots of it.
If he's not a massive a-hole, dangle the carrot, walk him to PSD.
WB can gagf
Need to be more pushy for our future.
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Let’s stop the loser talk and start hustling him over. He lives in East Malvern, close to his family so get him playing at the home of football in front of 80k.
And supposedly looking at properties down on the surf coast
Brett Delidio did the same thing.
Vlas has or had one in Torquay...IIRC it got firebombed on the eve of the 2020 GF while he was in the Gold Coast hub.... :shh
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Let’s stop the loser talk and start hustling him over. He lives in East Malvern, close to his family so get him playing at the home of football in front of 80k.
And supposedly looking at properties down on the surf coast
Brett Delidio did the same thing.
Vlas has or had one in Torquay...IIRC it got firebombed on the eve of the 2020 GF while he was in the Gold Coast hub.... :shh
Yep he sure does, did a lot of work on it himself as a chippie.
Nice quiet place for someone to have a summer break, doesn't mean they wanna live in that shanty town permanently.
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Plenty of AFL players live in melb with houses on the surfcoast, no big deal
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TBH I cannot see the Bulldogs letting him go through to the PSD. There will be a trade to Geelong IMHO
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Clubs job is to turn around that opinion - but the player and manager not the supporters. I hope we are not too proud to do a hustle here.
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TBH I cannot see the Bulldogs letting him go through to the PSD. There will be a trade to Geelong IMHO
That'd be right.
Geelong with their endless cap space, side deals, free houses etc
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Convincing a player to walk to the PSD sounds great when we’re getting the player, not so much when we’re the ones losing a player. Hope those of you hoping we go down that route with smith will be just as open minded if eagles/freo go down that path with baker.
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Convincing a player to walk to the PSD sounds great when we’re getting the player, not so much when we’re the ones losing a player. Hope those of you hoping we go down that route with smith will be just as open minded if eagles/freo go down that path with baker.
We’ll just reselect him.
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Convincing a player to walk to the PSD sounds great when we’re getting the player, not so much when we’re the ones losing a player. Hope those of you hoping we go down that route with smith will be just as open minded if eagles/freo go down that path with baker.
We’ll just reselect him.
But in this hypothetical scenario, we’ve already used our pick on Smith, so the eagles/freo as well as other clubs would be free to take him lol
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Convincing a player to walk to the PSD sounds great when we’re getting the player, not so much when we’re the ones losing a player. Hope those of you hoping we go down that route with smith will be just as open minded if eagles/freo go down that path with baker.
We’ll just reselect him.
But in this hypothetical scenario, we’ve already used our pick on Smith, so the eagles/freo as well as other clubs would be free to take him lol
get the baker did done first which you would think wouldn't be an issue with clarke :shh
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Were not getting Smith.
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Convincing a player to walk to the PSD sounds great when we’re getting the player, not so much when we’re the ones losing a player. Hope those of you hoping we go down that route with smith will be just as open minded if eagles/freo go down that path with baker.
We’ll just reselect him.
But in this hypothetical scenario, we’ve already used our pick on Smith, so the eagles/freo as well as other clubs would be free to take him lol
Don’t flinch first. West Coast need Baker, they desperately need a win. If we hold the line, they will cave in first.
We can make the Bailey Smith thing happen if we choose to be ruthless enough. Might pee off the player manager - who hd far too many cards in this part of the industry - but it would show our balls to get something done
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There’s something off with Bailey smith. I don’t think he can reclaim his 2021 finals form. This is a guy who tried to bail out Lachie hunter after he drunk drove into 4 parked cars, got caught with the nose beers, took mental health leave afterwards, and then when he did his acl did his rehab in Europe away from the club when most players at least hang around to support younger players. The bulldogs supported him through all of this and now he requests a trade and also recently on Instagram he throws shade at the dogs (now deleted)
He gives me Clayton Oliver vibes that he will never regain his peak and will just be 70% his best and be a distraction to other players
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There’s something off with Bailey smith. I don’t think he can reclaim his 2021 finals form. This is a guy who tried to bail out Lachie hunter after he drunk drove into 4 parked cars, got caught with the nose beers, took mental health leave afterwards, and then when he did his acl did his rehab in Europe away from the club when most players at least hang around to support younger players. The bulldogs supported him through all of this and now he requests a trade and also recently on Instagram he throws shade at the dogs (now deleted)
He gives me Clayton Oliver vibes that he will never regain his peak and will just be 70% his best and be a distraction to other players
Well said
Not sure I want him around a super young list
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Yes , has a Daniel Connors feel about him,
Seems to be heading for Geelong by all news reports.
Anyway who knows , someone else might pop up who wants to come to our club.
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Convincing a player to walk to the PSD sounds great when we’re getting the player, not so much when we’re the ones losing a player. Hope those of you hoping we go down that route with smith will be just as open minded if eagles/freo go down that path with baker.
We’ll just reselect him.
But in this hypothetical scenario, we’ve already used our pick on Smith, so the eagles/freo as well as other clubs would be free to take him lol
Don’t flinch first. West Coast need Baker, they desperately need a win. If we hold the line, they will cave in first.
We can make the Bailey Smith thing happen if we choose to be ruthless enough. Might pee off the player manager - who hd far too many cards in this part of the industry - but it would show our balls to get something done
Lol the last time i looked we need a win more. Like us they are in full on rebuild mode but apparently unlike us they are desperate.
Gotta love the hyperbole.
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They’ve had 10 wins in their past 3 seasons. Have become a joke in the AFL. Have zero talent under the age of 23 apart from Reid and possibly Ginby. Desperately need an angle to say they are turning this rabble around for their supporters. Baker is a start.
The fact they have put pick 3 on the table already is a clue of how desperate they have become.
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Have zero talent under the age of 23 apart from Reid and possibly Ginby.
Wow
What a ridiculous statement
They’ve got plenty of talent coming through .. Elijah Hewett will be a star for one
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They need Baker and Graham because the lack leadership and will pay overs to get it imho
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They need Baker and Graham because the lack leadership and will pay overs to get it imho
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They need Baker and Graham because the lack leadership and will pay overs to get it imho
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Actually not correct. If they need experience then we do to. Yet its okay for us to hit the draft but not them.
Where did we finish this year again. Where did they finish. Both clubs need a massive influx of quality YOUNG players.
McGovern, Yeo, Kelly, Barass, Sheed, Duggan, Hunt, Allen, Witherden, Cole, Ryan, Waterman off the top of my head. All with 100 plus games
They probably have more 100 game players than us.
Like us they need an influx of quality players in the right age bracket.
Put it this way Graham and Baker are at wce and they want to come to us would you trade for them given we are about to enter one of the deepest strongest drafts of all time.
By the time we rebuild neither will be there or at best way below their low ceiling best.
I tell ya what they do lack IF Barass is traded. Key defenders. Splitting their pick three if they manage it would be real clever and ideal given the draft.
Lets say for arguments sake they manage to get picks 8 and 14 somehow for pick 3. Potentially Trainor the best kpd in the draft and lets say the local boy is there in Allan.
they have 13 the Barass trade and they have pick 23. They can do what we are trying to do and thats bring in 4 quality kids that like us they are lacking.
One question just how soon do people here think they will be challenging again. Oh whats that i hear similar time frame to us.
Even if they trade Graham and Baker probably won't be there when they become genuine contenders again. Neither bring anything imo that they don't already have in their system.
We can afford to lose both because of the same reason.
Like us get the rebuild totally complete then target mature list deficiencies with decent picks.
I don't know why its so hard to apply the same principles to others that we apply to ourselves.
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In the last 2 years they have drafted seven kids in the top 40 of the draft.
We’ve drafted ZERO.
So let’s not pretend the rebuild is at the same stage. They are ahead of us timewise.
As for age demographics .. lot of the blokes you mention are either 30+ years old, or not midfielders
They have plenty of kids, and plenty in the 29+ yo bracket
Graham and Baker are both 26yo and both premiership players …
They fill a void and WCE seem very keen
WCE want both players .. I’ll ask you Claw, why would that be?
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not experience , they need leadership , I’m pretty sure we also need these type of players to mentor the kids we have and will get. If we don’t get overs I would be happy to keep our players.
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not experience , they need leadership , I’m pretty sure we also need these type of players to mentor the kids we have and will get. If we don’t get overs I would be happy to keep our players.
Agree (except Graham)
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In the last 2 years they have drafted seven kids in the top 40 of the draft.
We’ve drafted ZERO.
So let’s not pretend the rebuild is at the same stage. They are ahead of us timewise.
As for age demographics .. lot of the blokes you mention are either 30+ years old, or not midfielders
They have plenty of kids, and plenty in the 29+ yo bracket
Graham and Baker are both 26yo and both premiership players …
They fill a void and WCE seem very keen
WCE want both players .. I’ll ask you Claw, why would that be?
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I ask you where is the evidence other than speculation that they want both players. Tell me why they would want either when despite a slightly earlier rebuild start their needs for quality kids in abundance is almost as great as ours.
Do you really believe that clubs rebuild in two years? picks 1, 9, and 14 are the only top 20 picks they have had in that time.
If wce give up more than pick 23 for Baker then they deserve to languish near the bottom. Graham if they want him and they are smart they take him and they say to us, for 3rd band compo you pay half his salary for the first year so we actually get pick 22.
Where the hell does Graham fit into their midfield group, Kelly, Sheed, Reid, Hewitt, Ginbey and Yeo they have more depth than us.
Even Baker for that matter and they have their share of big mids who may or may not come on.
Again i will say if in wce shoes i would not be going anywhere near either Baker or Graham there are better options in this very good deep even draft. Its not as if Graham and Baker will have them challenging anytime soon is it. They are many years away from challenging just like us.Both clubs have a whoile heap of pain coming their way still.
Why don't people just stop and look outside of their black and yellow hearts. Because there is just so much delusion and wishful thinking going on. Its heart felt with not much thinking going into it.