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Title: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: one-eyed on March 27, 2007, 12:49:22 AM
Elevation for Tiger rookies
The Age AFL round-up
March 27, 2007

The Tigers will today promote two rookies to the senior list but have resisted the urge to cover for their injured tall players by including a ruckman in those promoted. Marathon man Cam Howat and tough defender Jake King have both been added to the senior list to cover the long-term injuries of Mark Coughlan (knee) and draftee Carl Petersen (osteitis pubis). With Troy Simmonds, Ray Hall and Kent Kingsley all out injured for the early rounds of the season the Tigers toyed with promoting Angus Graham but opted for the two running players. Howat has impressed with his elite endurance running in the pre-season and King was the equal best and fairest at affiliate VFL side Coburg last year.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/03/26/1174761378616.html
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: one-eyed on March 27, 2007, 01:39:54 AM
Tiger cubs step up
27 March 2007   Herald-Sun
Mark Stevens

RICHMOND has promoted rookies Jake King and Cameron Howat ahead of Sunday's clash with Carlton.

Given the Tigers' injury concerns, both are a strong chance to step straight into the senior line-up for the club's season-opener.

Richmond coach Terry Wallace last night confirmed Howat and King were likely to be in the final squad of 25.

"We haven't decided whether they will play yet," Wallace said.

"They have been excellent and deserve an opportunity."

The two spots on the main list opened up after Mark Coughlan and Carl Peterson were placed on the long-term injury list.

Coughlan (knee reconstruction) is out for the season and Peterson, drafted last year, is listed as an "indefinitely" out with a groin injury.

Howat, 22, played the final five games for the Tigers last season.

The hard-running midfielder appears capable of becoming a senior regular this year.

King, 23 yesterday, was a co-winner of Coburg's best-and-fairest in the VFL last year.

Despite measuring in at only 174cm and 74kg, he is a hard-at-it defender.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21452939%255E19742,00.html
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: letsgetiton! on March 27, 2007, 06:08:38 AM
good move
simmonds will be right pretty soon

all the talk is about howat , but imo , king will be a beauty!!! :thumbsup
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: bluey_21 on March 27, 2007, 08:15:12 AM
Howat was a no-brainer

But I was hoping to promote Gus so that we have more height on our list.

Anywhose congrats on Howat and Kingy  :clapping
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: letsgetiton! on March 27, 2007, 08:22:16 AM
the fact that they both have been elaevated suggests both will play in rnd 1, no reason to elevate a player if he is not going to play, i am expecting big things from king cos he looks like he has the goods and grunt
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: bluey_21 on March 27, 2007, 08:49:14 AM
the fact that they both have been elaevated suggests both will play in rnd 1, no reason to elevate a player if he is not going to play, i am expecting big things from king cos he looks like he has the goods and grunt

Howat will play cos he's in very good form, but I think Kingy will struggle for selection just because there is no real injury concerns among our smalls
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: Fwoy3 on March 27, 2007, 09:23:44 AM
the fact that they both have been elaevated suggests both will play in rnd 1, no reason to elevate a player if he is not going to play, i am expecting big things from king cos he looks like he has the goods and grunt

Howat will play cos he's in very good form, but I think Kingy will struggle for selection just because there is no real injury concerns among our smalls

King did ok on Aaron Davey the other week. May be brought in to play on the pacey forwards...Eddie Betts??
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: letsgetiton! on March 27, 2007, 09:44:21 AM
the fact that they both have been elaevated suggests both will play in rnd 1, no reason to elevate a player if he is not going to play, i am expecting big things from king cos he looks like he has the goods and grunt

Howat will play cos he's in very good form, but I think Kingy will struggle for selection just because there is no real injury concerns among our smalls

King did ok on Aaron Davey the other week. May be brought in to play on the pacey forwards...Eddie Betts??

true and why elevateand not play him, he will play
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: torch on March 27, 2007, 10:06:10 AM
Howat we know will be on the wing

King, back pocket ... i think all richmond supporters like toughness in players and from reports he has that ...

i hope King does well because at his height it is very rare to be drafted. this opportunity is massive for him ... i got a feeling its going to be Hartigan v King ... if Hartigan is gone after this year King will take his place ... so Hartigan is in trouble !
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: U2tigers on March 27, 2007, 10:53:52 AM
Finally.

Nows the time for them both.

However Cam will well and truly cement his spot in the 22.

Howat will become a Tiger favourite.
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: Mopsy on March 27, 2007, 11:23:39 AM
They both have a little more age and maturity than the draftees

With a list lacking in that regard good decision in my book! :thumbsup
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 27, 2007, 11:24:21 AM
Well done to Jake & Cam - both well deserved!  :clapping

I remember Jake's first game at Coburg last year and thought - "he's a beauty" simply because of the way he plays.
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: mightytiges on March 27, 2007, 02:32:05 PM
Congratulations to both Cam and Kingy :clapping.

As fwoy said King is a back pocket so he must be going to play on Betts. He's been playing that role all preseason. He will also free up Rainesy to play further up the ground and spend time in the midfield.
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: Harry on March 27, 2007, 02:35:32 PM
Kings promotion is interesting.  Is this aimed at freeing up Raines to run, carry and attack?  Raines was very good at keeping his man quiet in the back pocket.  Is terry looking to slowly move him into the midfield?  

It's strange also because of the other back pocket candidates in White and Hartigan.  Has White fallen out of favour?  I think Hartigan's in the departure lounge just quietly.  Hopefully White and King can fight for the defensive tagging role.  It appears Newman has been freed from all manning responsibilities.  

I kinda like it coz IMO we need all the help we can get in the midfield.  If Raines is slowly moved into the middle, aswell as the addition of Howat, it will surely help.  Hopefully it will keep Tivendale and Krakouer out of the team.
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: mightytiges on March 27, 2007, 03:23:54 PM
I think we're trying to develop White into a midfielder also or at least play him further up the ground. He needs to improve his decision making though. Agree about Harts Harry. Like Jacko he can't find a position.
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: letsgetiton! on March 27, 2007, 03:55:23 PM
Kings promotion is interesting.  Is this aimed at freeing up Raines to run, carry and attack?  Raines was very good at keeping his man quiet in the back pocket.  Is terry looking to slowly move him into the midfield?  

It's strange also because of the other back pocket candidates in White and Hartigan.  Has White fallen out of favour?  I think Hartigan's in the departure lounge just quietly.  Hopefully White and King can fight for the defensive tagging role.  It appears Newman has been freed from all manning responsibilities.  

I kinda like it coz IMO we need all the help we can get in the midfield.  If Raines is slowly moved into the middle, aswell as the addition of Howat, it will surely help.  Hopefully it will keep Tivendale and Krakouer out of the team.

imho, white is just a shorter version of tivendale, he wont make it

krak is safe, the way choco royal spoke about his preseason and his qualities, there is no way his position is on the line.  he is our only player besides brown with with footy smarts, and no one in the league has better evasive, agility and refelx skills than krak.
and he m,ay appear slow, but choco said he is no 1 in the team for repeated sprint efforts, initially he is beaten but after each repeated sprint he actually catches up and passes everyone, and footy is all about repeated sprints
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: Harry on March 27, 2007, 04:21:31 PM
Why does he average about 10 posessions if he's so footy smart and fit?

I'd rather persist with White.  Krak doen't have the hunger and desire.
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: mightytiges on March 27, 2007, 04:48:00 PM
Krak is a finisher which all good sides need but forward pockets in today's footy need to be able to be able to play midfield as well  and get the pill when the first tier is rested. Krak's problem has always been consistency. Anyway I don't want to turn this thread into one about Krak.

White is only about to start his second year. I'll give him some slack to improve on his decision making this year. Kingy is 3 years older than Matty.
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: tiga on March 27, 2007, 10:03:12 PM
Kingy will be a kick ass back pocket for us. He's going straight into my dream team now that he's been elevated! The guy is tough as teak and has plenty of composure in tight situations. Well done Jake and well done Cam!  :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: torch on March 27, 2007, 10:39:20 PM

i would give white another year ... don't jump on his back yet ...

he will be another tivendale ... well ... not really ... no one can be tivendale ... only tivendale can be ...

white will be white ... and too me its ... 3 players fighting for that 1 position ...

Hartigan, White, King ... all similar height and same hard attacking running and tackling ...

so lets see what King can do if he does get a go ... and as for white ... lets see ...

i remember whites game against brisbane late last year ... even though it wasn't something to brag on ... (82 point win) ... he showed something ...

but thats only 1 game out of 10 or 11 he has played !
Title: Re: Howat and King promoted off the rookie list
Post by: mightytiges on March 27, 2007, 11:02:25 PM

i would give white another year ... don't jump on his back yet ...

he will be another tivendale ... well ... not really ... no one can be tivendale ... only tivendale can be ...

white will be white ... and too me its ... 3 players fighting for that 1 position ...

Hartigan, White, King ... all similar height and same hard attacking running and tackling ...

so lets see what King can do if he does get a go ... and as for white ... lets see ...

i remember whites game against brisbane late last year ... even though it wasn't something to brag on ... (82 point win) ... he showed something ...

but thats only 1 game out of 10 or 11 he has played !

Well said torch, especially the bit about Tivs  ;D