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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: bluey_21 on June 03, 2007, 05:25:53 PM
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saw on the channel 7 broadcast that they are a couple goals up. Hopefully they get up and put us a step closer to the number 1 draft :thumbsup
BTW who many games do they need to win to miss out on the priority pick
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5, if IIRC :-\
I think it tipped the doggies, but for the sake and future of the RFC... go blues :chuck lol
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Carlton won, let's hope they get over the line and win another 2 games then :pray :lol
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A win and a draw is good enough too. 4 and a half wins and they lose their priority pick.
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If we don't win this year but win say 7 next year do we still get a pre-draft priority pick because we are under the limit of total matches won over 2 years
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Stuffs up my tipping - again! :banghead
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If we don't win this year but win say 7 next year do we still get a pre-draft priority pick because we are under the limit of total matches won over 2 years
No we don't. The ruling is 8 games over two years provided you win no more than 4 games in each of the two seasons. If Carlton get 4 wins they will receive the priority pick ahead of us 4.5 and it is ours. It pains me to say it but go Blues for at least 1.5 more wins.
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yeah ... go carlton !!!
2 more wins and the "No.1" is ours !!!
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Carlton looks like posting another win.
C'mon just another 2 points and the no. 1 pick is ours :lol
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Carlton got up, playing a fantastic brand of footy. Attacking direct hard at it footy. Pity we dont do the same. Matthew Kreuzer welcome to Punt Road.
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Would prefer Cotchin or Grimes though as there is a dearth of talented ruckman available between picks 15 to 30. Could pick up Bellchambers and McEvoy with our most likely priority pick and 2nd rounder.
Result being a class inside midfielder and two excellent and importantly LEGIT ruckman
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Brief rundown of some players
Kreuzer - This years Leunberger. Super ruck prospect with excellent athleticism and skills for a big man.
Cotchin - Similar player to Murphy as a smart inside midfielder. Maybe not as a good a reader of the player but even better foot skills
Grimes - Great inside midfielder prospect. Not your modern day athlete but is a great size and runs all day and has a brilliant ability to find the ball in close. Cool head under pressure, great leadership skills and great skills.
Masten - Hard running and talented but sometimes laconic midfielder from WA. Played the champs last year and was impressive but being a WA boy probably wouldn't risk him.
Meyer - tall athletic and modern day HBF. Great skills, brilliant pace and leap, reads the play well and can take games apart.
Bellchambers - Forward cum ruckman with a good rucking ability. Has a big body and is a crash and bash type of player. Also has very strong hands making him appealing up forward.
McEvoy - Excellent ruck prospect IMO. Good height and build, extremely athletic and mobile and terrific skills for a big man. Also very versatile and can swing forward back and through the mid. Would luv him at Punt Rd
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I also want to see Cale Morton. But Kreuzer could play key forward. Cotchin is very good also but we have to wait and see the championships to get a better idea. I for one am hoping we can do a deal to get another top 10 pick. Would Port go for Schulz and Meyer?
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yeah ... go carlton !!!
2 more wins and the "No.1" is ours !!!
Melbourne..
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Just a few potential draftee ruckmen this year and that's just from Victoria!
Brent Connelly 199 84 Gippsland
Ben McEvoy 199 90 Murray
Dawson Simpson 205 97 Murray
Dean Putt 202 88 Calder
Will Sullivan 202 95 Western
Andrew Renton 202 94 Eastern
Matthew Kruezer 199 91 Northern
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:shh not too loud.
Blues will win at least one more and Melbourne are a lot better than us.
Not much solace from coming last, but that is all we have to hang our hats on this year :P :help
Upset of the season this arvo at Freo :shh :gotigers
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Reckon the blues are a big chance tonight
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Reckon the blues are a big chance tonight
I heard Franklin is out (anyone confirm)
$100 says Hawthorn are going to forfeit ;)
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Reckon the blues are a big chance tonight
I heard Franklin is out (anyone confirm)
Buddy who?
If Carlton play as soft as they have tonight for the rest of the year we'll have to worry about losing first pick again.
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Gee, Wallace must have been sitting at home tonight watching the game really happy with his decision to choose us over the Hawks. :wallywink
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Gee, Wallace must have been sitting at home tonight watching the game really happy with his decision to choose us over the Hawks. :wallywink
How does Wallace come into every equation ::)
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Well he pubicly stated that our list was better that the Hawks and he also stated that he decision basically came down to that comparison.
He can certainly picks players old Plough..........F*(king :wallywink
No one can deny that he has egg on his face over this one.
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Maybe he just didn't want to go there - and why would you?
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Maybe he just didn't want to go there - and why would you?
There's every reason why you would want to coach them at the moment.
They are flying and still have a lot of highly rated youngsters still to come into the team. :o
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Goody for them ::)
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Well he pubicly stated that our list was better that the Hawks and he also stated that he decision basically came down to that comparison.
When did he say that? ???
He said his decision came down to the Hawthorn board not being able to give him total support due to the Don Scott faction not wanting him.
He said Richmond's list was a train wreck from day 1.
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Well he pubicly stated that our list was better that the Hawks and he also stated that he decision basically came down to that comparison.
So that was really wishful thinking he said that - nice one Fish :thumbsup
Give up guys - you're pathetic ::)
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ewes know who I mean ::)
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Reckon the blues are a big chance tonight
Good shout Jakey
:help
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Reckon the blues are a big chance tonight
Good shout Jakey
:help
:rollin, how are you going in your footy tipping? :lol
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Has there ever been more competition to see who can tank the most for a game as the Blues and Dees this week?! 3aw just said Cameron Bruce is out for the Dees as well (stuffs up my footyrocks team too :scream).
Go Blues. Lose that PP :pray
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Yes go blues - can't believe I just said that ;D
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Yes go blues - can't believe I just said that ;D
Go the mighty Blues :chuck
Wash my mouth out lol
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Half way thru the 2nd Dees 49 - Blues 35
Ricky Pettard off to hospital with broken ribs and a collapsed lung. MICA ambulance being used for what Doc Larkins said could be a "life threatening" situation. Lung cavity filled with oxygen from punctured lung...
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They can go alright, they can go to bloody hell :thumbsup
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Dees as good as home... 17pts up with 25 gone in the last qtr
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Dees as good as home... 17pts up with 25 gone in the last qtr
:banghead
blues still have pick 1
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Dees as good as home... 17pts up with 25 gone in the last qtr
:banghead
blues still have pick 1
And the Blues look like keeping it :scream based on today's effort.
I hope Ricky Pettard is okay. Nasty injury :(.
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Yeah and I would think the Blues would pick Kruezer with that first pick considering McLaren and Ackland have been ineffiecient for them. Can't understand how the Blues gave Ackland a 3 year contract. Too bad we don't play them twice :banghead
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Despite Pagan's sacking and a new coach coming in, it's hard to see the Blues winning another game especially now they're without Fev and Walker. As mentioned on FC, Fev will miss the next 3 weeks with a thigh injury (might be "made" to rest out the season) and Andrew Walker out with a shoulder injury.
Looks like we'll have to do with pick 2 as our first pick.
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Pick 1 Pick 2 - WGAF.
Who is saying who is best and who is saying we will pick Vodka anywayz.
Tanking = load of bullocks.
Still like #1 tho :shh
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Despite Pagan's sacking and a new coach coming in, it's hard to see the Blues winning another game especially now they're without Fev and Walker. As mentioned on FC, Fev will miss the next 3 weeks with a thigh injury (might be "made" to rest out the season) and Andrew Walker out with a shoulder injury.
Looks like we'll have to do with pick 2 as our first pick.
Ratten I reckon is too proud to have his coaching career start at 0 and 6. Reckon they will be up for the Bombers game and at least a chance against Melbourne.
Think that the PP is 50-50 at this stage.
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They can afford to lie down, Richard and Jeanie Pratt will kick in the rest.
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The Blues were more competitive today but they still lost. Hard to see them winning before round 22. If Sheeds wanted to do Richmond a real favour and stick it up Carlton (and Walls) at the same he could tank it in round 20 lol.
R18: Collingwood (MCG)
R19: Port Adelaide (AMII)
R20: Essendon (MCG)
R21: Kangaroos (Dome)
R22: Melbourne (MCG)
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They can afford to lie down, Richard and Jeanie Pratt will kick in the rest.
Richard said at the lunch today that they were not tanking.
If they want to go out and get an uncontracted player nothing stopping them, it's only money!
:scream
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They can afford to lie down, Richard and Jeanie Pratt will kick in the rest.
Richard said at the lunch today that they were not tanking.
Pratt also talked about tree frogs, cows and sheep ???. I guess when you're loaded you can say anything and people will listen to it lol.
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The Blues are officially tanking ....
While Swann denied actually tanking to win a draft pick, he conceded better-performed players were being overlooked for kids and said the majority of Carlton supporters wanted the side to lose every remaining game this year.
"People ask you about whether you tank or not. If you can't make the eight you have to plan for next year," Swann said on 3AW yesterday.
"By planning for next year that doesn't always necessarily mean you have got your best team out there.
"There are some guys playing at the Northern Bullants who probably, right this minute, are better players than some of the kids that are playing, but from our point of view we need to get as many games as we can into our younger players and stuff them because that is where our future lies.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22151231%255E19742,00.html
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Blues have comeback from 44 points down to hit the front :pray
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Carlton 9 points up. Sheeds' tanking is working lol.
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Blues 16 points up at quarter time ;)
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:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
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Blues 23 points up 49-26 :lol
Fev gone down the race with some injury though.
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56-33 at half-time. Well done Sheeds :clapping lol
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Enter Carlton the tank engine ;) :rollin
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4 goals to 1 so far in this qrt to the bumbers.....Sheed's halftime address to the players obviously isn't working .
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4 goals to 1 so far in this qrt to the bumbers.....Sheed's halftime address to the players obviously isn't working .
Conversely now that Ratten has the job for next season his half time address may be working and the tank is in full swing once again.
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The Carlton tank is in full swing
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yep the tank is on
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blues are back infront
83 -79
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Forget it after blues stretch it out to 10
Dons get 3 in 3 minutes to lead by 8
the tank is on.
97-89 :banghead :banghead
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108 - 99 go blues
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Bombers in front
Pricks
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if the dons win, the blues have tanked 4 sure and teh afl should do something about it
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Lloyd lining up 25 out with 4 minutes to go
Missed
4 points up the Dons
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43 seconds to go
Bombers out of jail 118-108
Blues tank again
Geez I hate both of these clubs.
Bombers don't deserve finals hopefully we can ruin that pipedream next week.
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f ing w@nkers
i hope the demons give teh blues their own medicine in rnd 22!
we wil pump the dons!
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The Saints will finish 8th so the Bombers celebrations are for nothing anyway. The destiny of both those sides are in our hands in the last two rounds ;).
If the AFL scraps priority picks it potentially could hurt us and not Carlton next year. Carlton will deliberately have to tank against Melbourne. No Bruce, Holland, Davey, Robertson, etc.
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Ratten said Fev is gone for the year with a groin.
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If we were in Carltons position, would we not be tanking? We would have the whole Australian Army Tank brigade out on the periphery of the MCG as a sideshow for the supporters lol...the only good thing is that they must play melbourne and one of them will do themselves out of a pick.
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Enter Carlton the tank engine ;) :rollin
great call bluey ;D
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Neitz with a knee has joined Fev on the sidelines for next week's battle of the tanks.
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Enter Carlton the tank engine ;) :rollin
great call bluey ;D
So what will ratts and the blue cont the blue cont the blue controller do this week. :rollin
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Enter Carlton the tank engine ;) :rollin
great call bluey ;D
So what will ratts and the blue cont the blue cont the blue controller do this week. :rollin
Carlton will be winning up to 3/4 time before they all mysteriously get knee injures :shh
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(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/Froars/Richmond/cartontankcopy.jpg)
I think I can, I think I can lol ....
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(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/Froars/Richmond/cartontankcopy.jpg)
I think I can, I think I can lol ....
Melbourne don't have the need to tank as much as Carlton, but I think this week may be 8 on 8 players.
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(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/Froars/Richmond/cartontankcopy.jpg)
I think I can, I think I can lol ....
:lol
I know I can't, I know I can't :whistle
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Twiddledee and Twiddledum in AFL House say tanking doesn't exist while we've got everyone associated with Carlton come out today and say they want to lose:
"In all fairness, I would rather them lose because of the draft picks," Koutoufides said last night.
Former president John Elliott said winning was simply not an option. "We've got to lose."
Premiership coach Robert Walls said the No.1 draft picks should be the priority. "I don't want Carlton to win because, as a supporter, the benefits of losing are so great."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22318979%255E20322,00.html
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Is Kouta still classed as on the Blues playing list?
It'd be hilarious if the AFL took away the Blues' draft picks again on a technicality of one of their player encouraging his side to lose.
It's a total farce. Even Garry Lyon last night was claiming the underdog tag for Melbourne this week with only 23 players to choose from.
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What happens if the Blues and the Demons draw?
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What happens if the Blues and the Demons draw?
Both lose it I'm pretty sure. :thumbsup
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Doesn't matter cause we will beat aints :thumbsup
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What happens if the Blues and the Demons draw?
They both lose their priority picks.
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Plough has come out today and dared Carlton to win.
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Plough has come out today and dared Carlton to win.
doubt it, the reason Ratten was installed was because he agreed to help carlton tank for the next few years ;) :lol
what is his record 7 games for 7 losses ::)
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Plough has come out today and dared Carlton to win.
doubt it, the reason Ratten was installed was because he agreed to help carlton tank for the next few years ;) :lol
what is his record 7 games for 7 losses ::)
Ratten's record is in jeopardy as they're playing a team that wants to tank as much as the Blues do this week lol.
I hope it finishes a draw. We then get picks 1, 17 and 18 :thumbsup
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Plough has come out today and dared Carlton to win.
doubt it, the reason Ratten was installed was because he agreed to help carlton tank for the next few years ;) :lol
what is his record 7 games for 7 losses ::)
Ratten's record is in jeopardy as they're playing a team that wants to tank as much as the Blues do this week lol.
I hope it finishes a draw. We then get picks 1, 17 and 18 :thumbsup
what i wanna see melb do in the last quarter with 5 minutes to go if they are winning that is, send an extra player on the feild. just say theer was a communication breakdown on the bench and have 19 players out there and make sure an official notices.
that would forfeit the game and give teh points to carlton lol
i dare the demons to be brave and do this
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Plough has come out today and dared Carlton to win.
doubt it, the reason Ratten was installed was because he agreed to help carlton tank for the next few years ;) :lol
what is his record 7 games for 7 losses ::)
Ratten's record is in jeopardy as they're playing a team that wants to tank as much as the Blues do this week lol.
I hope it finishes a draw. We then get picks 1, 17 and 18 :thumbsup
what i wanna see melb do in the last quarter with 5 minutes to go if they are winning that is, send an extra player on the feild. just say theer was a communication breakdown on the bench and have 19 players out there and make sure an official notices.
that would forfeit the game and give teh points to carlton lol
i dare the demons to be brave and do this
LOL
Or they should just rush a point to Carlton and then walk off.
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:rollin :rollin :rollin
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or just stay behind the goals and keep rushing behinds :rollin
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The tanking is in full swing - No Brad Fisher and Heath Scotland is in doubt to play for Carlton. No Neitz nor Sylvia for Melbourne.
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the afl must bring a lottery system in , 2 groups, top 8 a nd bottom 8
bottom eight will get their draft order picked out of a hat, followed by the top 8
all done random, has nothing to do with ladder position and no priority picks
or why not give 9th 1st pick
10th 2nd pick
11th 3rd pick etc
that would stop tanking completely
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the afl must bring a lottery system in , 2 groups, top 8 a nd bottom 8
bottom eight will get their draft order picked out of a hat, followed by the top 8
all done random, has nothing to do with ladder position and no priority picks
or why not give 9th 1st pick
10th 2nd pick
11th 3rd pick etc
that would stop tanking completely
Yes but then you're continually punishing the stragglers.
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I think just get rid of priority picks.
The big issue is that the Blues get pick one and three if they tank successfully. No-one gives a shi'te if Melbourne tank.
Or have the priority picks start at pick 9, so the bottom 8 teams get from pick 1-8, then priorities, then the top 8 get to pick.
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the afl must bring a lottery system in , 2 groups, top 8 a nd bottom 8
bottom eight will get their draft order picked out of a hat, followed by the top 8
all done random, has nothing to do with ladder position and no priority picks
or why not give 9th 1st pick
10th 2nd pick
11th 3rd pick etc
that would stop tanking completely
Yes but then you're continually punishing the stragglers.
so be it, make them work hardr and play with more passion
why should failures be rewarded, system sux
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Totally sick of this, blown out of all proportion to be honest.
And these Officials and ex players say they want to lose = loser mentality which I hope rubs of on the whole team for many years to cum.
Who knows WTF the first picks in the draft r gunna turn out like.
Mate how much pressure is on this Vodka dude if he gets picked first.
Hope we rape StKilda and then WGAF .
Just pized Scum will get 2 picks in top 3
No more Spoons for RFC
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the afl must bring a lottery system in , 2 groups, top 8 a nd bottom 8
bottom eight will get their draft order picked out of a hat, followed by the top 8
all done random, has nothing to do with ladder position and no priority picks
or why not give 9th 1st pick
10th 2nd pick
11th 3rd pick etc
that would stop tanking completely
Failure should be rewarded with ONE pick but this priority crap makes it a joke.
Yes but then you're continually punishing the stragglers.
so be it, make them work hardr and play with more passion
why should failures be rewarded, system sux
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Blues' Matthew Lappin retiring from AFL
The Age
August 29, 2007 - 3:34PM
Carlton veteran Matthew Lappin has announced his retirement from the AFL effective immediately.
Captain Lance Whitnall is in doubt to play Melbourne on Sunday because of his knee problem while half-back Heath Scotland is also in doubt because of a corked thigh.
Ratten dismissed speculation the Blues would be better off losing to Melbourne to secure the No.l pick in the national draft.
Ratten said he was preparing his team to win and said his players took no notice of the Tanking speculation.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Sport/Blues-Matthew-Lappin-retiring-from-AFL/2007/08/29/1188067170420.html
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Totally sick of this, blown out of all proportion to be honest.
And these Officials and ex players say they want to lose = loser mentality which I hope rubs of on the whole team for many years to cum.
Who knows WTF the first picks in the draft r gunna turn out like.
Mate how much pressure is on this Vodka dude if he gets picked first.
Hope we rape StKilda and then WGAF .
Just pized Scum will get 2 picks in top 3
No more Spoons for RFC
Well said CUB :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Dermie's now jumped on the Blues to lose bandwagon yet Andy D still believes tanking doesn't exist ::).
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22335432%255E19742,00.html
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or why not give 9th 1st pick
10th 2nd pick
11th 3rd pick etc
I'd go:
9th 1st pick
16th 2nd
15th 3rd
That would stop it and make it fair to the bottom sides.
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BF saying SEN reported that Carrazzo has "flu symptoms" and may miss. Carlton will say the whole team has it on Sunday and their little league side will have to play instead ::).
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Blues, Demons 'will play to win'
2:21 PM Fri 31 August, 2007
AAP
AFL CHIEF executive Andrew Demetriou remains convinced that Melbourne and Carlton will do all they can to win Sunday's twilight MCG clash.
There is widespread speculation about whether Carlton in particular will "tank" to maximise their draft selections.
"I'm sure they'll be genuinely wanting to win, there's too much at stake for players who are playing for their careers, as are coaches," Demetriou told Southern Cross broadcasting.
"I'm not going to deny that there are people out there who think it's a good thing that their team will lose but I can assure you of this, if you are relying on a priority draft pick to save your football club you are delusional.
"There's much more to winning games than a priority pick."
http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=50199
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"There's much more to winning games than a priority pick." :wallywink
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Carlton being hit by a plague of illnesses not seen since Biblical times ::)
Marc Murphy reportedly has tonsolitis and is expected to miss!
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Game over already ::). Dees have kicked the first 4 goals.
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Game over already ::). Dees have kicked the first 4 goals.
you sound suprised MT ;)
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Game over already ::). Dees have kicked the first 4 goals.
you sound suprised MT ;)
You would've thought the Blues at least show some subtly :whistle. They might as well painted 18 witches hats navy blue and scattered them around the 'G. Melbourne could break every record in the book today.
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Pathetic :banghead
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the pressure is going to huge on carlton
they'd be hoping that kreuzer is better than Cotchin otherwise they will be coping poo from us for a while lol
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Waite kicks a goal and comes off ::)
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the pressure is going to huge on carlton
they'd be hoping that kreuzer is better than Cotchin otherwise they will be coping poo from us for a while lol
Be great to turn the tables but if Morton turns out better than Cotchin then they'll give us crap.
I don't really care about them getting first pick as we should get a good kid (Cotchin) at 2 anyway. But to get picks 1 and 3 even though they didn't finish last is a joke. It's just such a massive advantage.
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not really they needs picks 1 & 3 cause they are poo
Carlton is the worst team in the AFL
all there older players are retired or breaking down
next year they will be poo too ;D
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its easy to tank
just let the other team flog you in the first quarter
then play your own game of football knowing you will always have control over the contest to lose
stuffing cheating tankers
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the pressure is going to huge on carlton
they'd be hoping that kreuzer is better than Cotchin otherwise they will be coping poo from us for a while lol
Be great to turn the tables but if Morton turns out better than Cotchin then they'll give us crap.
I don't really care about them getting first pick as we should get a good kid (Cotchin) at 2 anyway. But to get picks 1 and 3 even though they didn't finish last is a joke. It's just such a massive advantage.
i wouldn't be worried, they will just get another softie like Gibbs who can't keep his feet in the goal square ;D :lol
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well take a look at lance big red he struggles to kick 50 metres he lost all that fat & his energy
see them all smiling after a lose just shows me there always been a cheating club
hope they get found out for something like breach the salary cap again & lose there draft picks
maybe one of there players will be phone tapped & caught out saying we were told to tank :pray :pray :pray :pray
maybe l'm selfish at not getting the picks we deserve that go with our stuffing worthless title the wooden spoon
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well take a look at lance big red he struggles to kick 50 metres he lost all that fat & his energy
see them all smiling after a lose just shows me there always been a cheating club
hope they get found out for something like breach the salary cap again & lose there draft picks
maybe one of there players will be phone tapped & caught out saying we were told to tank :pray :pray :pray :pray
maybe l'm selfish at not getting the picks we deserve that go with our effing worthless title the wooden spoon
as i said don't worry, they will just eff up their picks anyway :thumbsup