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Title: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Bulluss on June 30, 2007, 10:30:37 PM
Wallace is far too one dimensional and doesnt try players in various spots to get them into the game.

Perfect example tonight was Lids. Why wouldnt he try and move him up the ground on a wing or HF to try and get him into the game.

Key back match-ups were wrong, as were most of the midfield match ups.

The only things he constantly tried to do was get Polak free down back.
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Moi on June 30, 2007, 10:45:35 PM
I only have one question was why they played Raines on Riewoldt.
Still scratching my head on that one
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: mightytiges on June 30, 2007, 11:18:55 PM
We're Tanking!  :shh

Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Tigermonk on June 30, 2007, 11:38:40 PM
We're Tanking!  :shh



exactly
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Passionfruit on July 01, 2007, 08:08:31 AM
I only have one question was why they played Raines on Riewoldt.
Still scratching my head on that one

Because Terry Wallace mighten have much idea.
Raines on Riewoldt ::)
And fancy putting Tivendale on Gram, lol
Tambling should have gone to Montagna
And Jackson defensive shut down role on Gram.
Gram is a gun
To say we were tanking is a joke. Why play Simmonds if they were tanking, get real!
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Rodgerramjet on July 01, 2007, 08:19:21 AM
We're not tanking, we're experimenting :shh
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: bluey_21 on July 01, 2007, 08:24:32 AM
We're not tanking, we're experimenting :shh

exactly  :shh
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: julzqld on July 01, 2007, 08:43:33 AM
I absolutely hate all this talk about tanking.  The AFL should penalise teams for tanking, not reward them.  Any team that tanks should be droped to the VFL - don't deserve to play senior football.
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Passionfruit on July 01, 2007, 09:16:26 AM
Can assure you that the tiges arent tanking
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2007, 10:43:51 AM
Can assure you that the tiges arent tanking

how can you assure us jackstar
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: mightytiges on July 01, 2007, 07:30:47 PM
I absolutely hate all this talk about tanking.  The AFL should penalise teams for tanking, not reward them.  Any team that tanks should be droped to the VFL - don't deserve to play senior football.
Tanking not in the literal sense that you stop trying but more not giving the team the best possible chance to win by experimenting for the benefit of 2008 and beyond. Simmo was nowhere fit. He didn't even start in the ruck when he is clearly our 1st ruck and Patto isn't.
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: {X} on July 02, 2007, 06:58:23 AM
Can assure you that the tiges arent tanking

how can you assure us jackstar

yes jackstar , assure us, just like sheedy never tanked last year!!!

can assure you jack, sheedy is the one who should be worried, another very very very lucky win with an old aging list

ok we lost to the saints, we tanked it by playing key players out of position, but we played are far better style and hame than the bombers.

if u were an impartial supporter on sat night you would have sat there and watched a pretty damn good game of footy

but assure us, stand up and deliver, stop popping ur head in here every time we lose and assure us terry is gone and we are sh it bla bla bla

make ur point, back it up , BE A MAN

Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Ramps on July 02, 2007, 07:04:05 AM
Richmond needs to tank this year and probably next as well to do this properly. 1 17 18 34 or picks thereabouts  is what we need.

Picks 1 2 18 34 next year would finish the job.

Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: julzqld on July 02, 2007, 08:20:52 AM
Is tanking really the answer?  Doesn't seem to have done any good for Carlton.
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Passionfruit on July 02, 2007, 08:44:03 AM
Can assure you that the tiges arent tanking

how can you assure us jackstar

yes jackstar , assure us, just like sheedy never tanked last year!!!

can assure you jack, sheedy is the one who should be worried, another very very very lucky win with an old aging list

ok we lost to the saints, we tanked it by playing key players out of position, but we played are far better style and hame than the bombers.

if u were an impartial supporter on sat night you would have sat there and watched a pretty damn good game of footy

but assure us, stand up and deliver, stop popping ur head in here every time we lose and assure us terry is gone and we are sh it bla bla bla

make ur point, back it up , BE A MAN



Sat behind you actually
Ailse 11, level 2.?
Thought we will extremely well coached against Melbourne, and poorly coached on sat night.
If you think Cam Howat on harvey is a good match up?  ::)
Raines on Riedwoldt ::)
Tivendale on Gram ::)
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Mr Magic on July 02, 2007, 09:56:29 AM
So to sum up we are finding experimental ways to tank.

Riewoldt was blanketed by Thursfield last time they met, yet Raines had him for the whole game???? :lol
Wallace just ain't that stupid.
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: mightytiges on July 02, 2007, 10:02:11 PM
LOL Magic  ;D

Picks 1 2 18 34 next year would finish the job.
Guess who wants that young WA kid Naitanui next year  ;).

Is tanking really the answer?  Doesn't seem to have done any good for Carlton.
Draft and monetary penalities (which they deserved) really stuffed them right up. With no early picks they were forced to top up with heaps of recycled duds and resort to AFL handouts to keep afloat which kept them down in mediocreland. It's only been the last 2 drafts that they've been able to introduce talented kids like Murphy, Kennedy and Gibbs. As we know youngsters will take time to develop and they need the support of senior bodies around them. They had that early in the season with their best 22 on the park and being ahead of other clubs in their preparation. With Stevens gone for the year, Thorton being out and their other senior players struggling, the marathon of an AFL season has finally taken its toll.
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: Passionfruit on July 02, 2007, 10:05:33 PM
Whats the point in tanking when we repeatedly stuff the picks up anyway ::)
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: torch on July 02, 2007, 10:20:09 PM
Raines on Riewoldt ???

Joel on no one ???

Tivendale got killed ... must be delisted ...

Title: Wallace on Raines vs Riewoldt match-up
Post by: one-eyed on July 04, 2007, 04:46:28 AM
From RFC and Sportal:

The Richmond coach said his decision to play young running defender Andrew Raines on St Kilda's match-winning centre half-forward Nick Riewoldt at the weekend was not a sign of what some commentators suggest is a lack of tall defensive options.

Wallace said the move was more to do with finding a match-up capable of keeping pace with Riewoldt's extraordinary running ability.

"Graham (Polak) can play those roles as well and has played them. We played Port Adelaide a few weeks ago and he played on Tredrea, so he can take those sorts of roles.

"We just thought that the way Nick plays the game and with his ability to get up high on the lead that it might have taken Graham out of the picture a little bit, so that's why we went with Andrew for the match-up on this occasion."

"He (Raines) only got beaten once in a one out clash where Nick took the mark, turned around and ended up kicking the goal so from that point of view his four goals weren't from being outsized, I thought he did a very good job."

"Nick (Riewoldt) still was a good player for them which he is week in and week out but certainly we've said we've had a little bit of deficiency in that (defensive) area (and) that's why we went and got Graham Polak last year."

Raines agreed that the height discrepancy – Riewoldt stands at 193 centimetres and Raines 184 – was difficult to counter but he still enjoyed tackling the tall order.

"Any task is pretty tough at AFL level but it was a great experience playing the best forward in the league and I was pretty much playing centre-half back," Raines said.

"(Riewoldt is) a lot taller than me and very good but I enjoyed the task and even though he kicked a couple of goals on me I thought that early on I only kept him to one before half-time, I thought (I) might be a chance keeping to that but (he is a) terrific player and (it was) a great experience playing against him."

http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=46522

http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/afl-news-display/wallace-wants-tall-defenders-30202
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: {X} on July 04, 2007, 07:00:38 AM
riewoldt was not the match winner, what a crock

g train kicked 5 and i wouldnt even say he was

what won the game for the aints

1/ crucial clearances late in teh 3rd quarter and in the first half of the last quarter

2/ flukey goals kicked by riewoldt( 2 flukes, 1 bs free), flukey goal kicked by gilbert

3/ our inability to be 4-5 goals up at half time , cos thats how much better than them we were and just kept on missing goals
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: julzqld on July 04, 2007, 08:19:02 AM
Yeah I would have had Harvey and Montagna as the match winners, not Riewoldt and the ugly man.
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: blx on July 04, 2007, 09:16:06 AM
I think terrys just fast tracking our juniors. Leaving Howat on Harvey is one example. Howat will have gained a hell of a lot out of that meeting. Its obvious that Howat (although maligned by some including me) is in his long term plans. Howat does run all day, thats his strength but i'd love to see him improve his body strength and become a more damaging player rather than alot of his soft disposals out on a wing. He really needs to sometimes go for the damaging disposals not just the easiest one, which i think he takes alot.

Thursfield is another who is getting the big jobs every week in order to "fast track" him. He copes quite admirably IMO.

Howat, Edwards are Foley are the beginings of a our future midfield types. They run and run and run and run. When we get these types up and atom in a few years time we will be a very fast side.

I think the team gameplan is slowly cranking into gear. You can tell that the boys are starting to get used to terry's run and carry gameplan and im getting very excited about our future. Foley says “We are all confident about where we are heading and we can see the direction we’re going.” thats basically it.

patience brothers and sisters, patience ;)
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: mightytiges on July 04, 2007, 04:02:40 PM
I think terrys just fast tracking our juniors. Leaving Howat on Harvey is one example. Howat will have gained a hell of a lot out of that meeting. Its obvious that Howat (although maligned by some including me) is in his long term plans. Howat does run all day, thats his strength but i'd love to see him improve his body strength and become a more damaging player rather than alot of his soft disposals out on a wing. He really needs to sometimes go for the damaging disposals not just the easiest one, which i think he takes alot.
Open space allows Cam time to always use his preferred side without being caught or forced back and sideways to wheel around. As they say the other leg is just for standing on.

Agree blx the young blokes are now being fast tracked for 2008 and beyond.
Title: Re: Why doesnt Wallace try something different for once
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 04, 2007, 09:47:38 PM
Yeah I would have had Harvey and Montagna as the match winners, not Riewoldt and the ugly man.

Agree Julz - the ugly one was well held for all but 10 minutes. Reiwoldt...hmm... I am not allowed to comment on Nick  ;D

thought Montagna was the difference - that match up didn't work at all.