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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: {X} on April 25, 2008, 05:38:12 PM
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not sure if i should feel sorry 4 him being a past gr8 4us, but gees, is he really ready to try and rebuild the pathetic list he has
early in th eyr whe it didnt count he had teh bombers up and running playing gr8 footy, but the bombers have now really been exposed and the tigers are far better placed to succeed than them.
i for one was enraptured of knights' early success but now, after just round six, they will battle with melbourne for the spoon and their list is shocking
so do we feel sorry for knighter or do we say f him , he is a bomber now
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so do we feel sorry for knighter or do we say f him , he is a bomber now
I think you will find you can do both. :rollin
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so true, but we once loved sheedy until he became a bomber through and through
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many injuries in that Bomber side they lost alot of run with those but not our concern
Knights you got to love the bloke he got something to give them
But Winderlich oh please what a goofball
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injuries are no excuse, we had injuries yet terry was not treated nicely due to that fact
bombers are crap
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There's $100 on this btw :lol.
People bag Sugar as not being a captain's proverbial but Captain diving boy is the biggest passenger in that side at the moment.
And if anything sums up the Bombers right now it is that they are still persisting with a dud like Courtney Johns and giving him a game. Well Knighter won't have a hard task dropping him thanks to the tribunal.
The problem Knighter has now is that the other coaches have cotton on to his gameplan and now have knowledge on the young Dons that they didn't have back in the NAB Cup and the early rounds. Do I feel sorry for him? A little as he's inherited a shocking list that will get worse before it gets better and he will become the scapegoat while they are down the bottom on a long rebuild.
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Said it at the end of last season, said it at the start of this season, said it the other day and this morning.
Knighter is pushing it uphill, they will be lucky to win another game the bombres - stiff doodys :rollin
Love Knighter but tuff :gotigers
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There's $100 on this btw :lol.
People bag Sugar as not being a captain's proverbial but Captain diving boy is the biggest passenger in that side at the moment.
And if anything sums up the Bombers right now it is that they are still persisting with a dud like Courtney Johns and giving him a game. Well Knighter won't have a hard task dropping him thanks to the tribunal.
The problem Knighter has now is that the other coaches have cotton on to his gameplan and now have knowledge on the young Dons that they didn't have back in the NAB Cup and the early rounds. Do I feel sorry for him? A little as he's inherited a shocking list that will get worse before it gets better and he will become the scapegoat while they are down the bottom on a long rebuild.
MT l got to agree with you re; Courtney Johns
l watched this guy from day dot & seen him play a few times & he is a real dud
l expect him to be delisted or traded l'm sure Knighter is a smart man & can see what we see & think of him
Said to the wife today there is that dude Johns again & commented he should join Tarrant in the duds side :lol :thumbsup
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l expect him (Johns) to be delisted or traded l'm sure Knighter is a smart man & can see what we see & think of him
Urm, Knighter got the job on the back of him saying that the list was good enough and didn't need a complete rebuild. I don't know if he really is that smart.
Nash, Winderlich, Dyson, Lovett-Murray, Johns, Slattery etc. are all very average players. They have a gaping hole in their list, and have only really started rebuilding from the Gumbleton draft.
I do feel sorry for Knighter, he seems a nice bloke and you can tell he really wants this to work. As they say though, you can't polish a turd.
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Stage 1 Head in the Sand people.
That is where Essendon are at. Injury does not help but their list is just not up to scratch and they will really really struggle over the next few years. With Port Sydney and Us yes Us in the next 3 weeks they may be 2-7 with an only saving grace being a more intense performance against the coaches old side. Will be a long few years ahead of them. This game plan of pace is just a smokescreen to get the Bomber fans believing the development is better or is occurring quicker than expected by playing a fast attractive brand of footy that is pleasing to the eye and will hopefully stun other sides early in a season, rather than using a game plan as Danny did to limit the scoreboard damage. Better quality sides such as Geelong and the Pies and the Saints have exposed this for what it is worth and sent them to the cleaners. Coaches are responsible for the way their teams ultimately play and although a champion of our club I feel no sympathy for them nor to an extent for Knighter as to sell himself to get the job he literaly sold his soul by overestimating an already ageing and youth underdeveloped side all for a couple of hundred thousand more than what he was getting coaching Bendigo so early in his coaching career when the opportunity arose.Perhaps we'll find he will never coach at AFL level again once his tenure ends or his contract is terminated much like Frawley Schwab Balme and many others before him. It has only been "Essendon Men" in the media such as Robbo and Rohan who have kept the rest of the football world from jumping down their throats and writing scathing articles with regards to their list and on field agendas. The pressure will mount. Stage 2 Fear may have arrived this afternoon or if not in the coming weeks. :lol
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:lol HT74
Their fans are already laying into Knighter....
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?s=c47ff844d43091ffdb54086ace731e2b&showtopic=40751
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There's $100 on this btw :lol.
People bag Sugar as not being a captain's proverbial but Captain diving boy is the biggest passenger in that side at the moment.
And if anything sums up the Bombers right now it is that they are still persisting with a dud like Courtney Johns and giving him a game. Well Knighter won't have a hard task dropping him thanks to the tribunal.
The problem Knighter has now is that the other coaches have cotton on to his gameplan and now have knowledge on the young Dons that they didn't have back in the NAB Cup and the early rounds. Do I feel sorry for him? A little as he's inherited a shocking list that will get worse before it gets better and he will become the scapegoat while they are down the bottom on a long rebuild.
MT l got to agree with you re; Courtney Johns
l watched this guy from day dot & seen him play a few times & he is a real dud
l expect him to be delisted or traded l'm sure Knighter is a smart man & can see what we see & think of him
Said to the wife today there is that dude Johns again & commented he should join Tarrant in the duds side :lol :thumbsup
:lol
Freo can only pick up so many Essendon duds or has-beens at a time ;D
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Geez.From the posts on Bomber Blitz I have read half are ripping into Knights and his game plan as well as his inability to be proactive in a negative situation and others :lol :rollin :lol still think they are a top 8 side with a few blokes like Jetta and co the reason why they are getting flogged. :whistle
Another 18 months with these type of results and I think these smarter Essendon fans will be welcoming some of these unconvinced head in the sand types into the fold and telling them I told you so but the seeds of failure and success starving will be bearing their fruit. :clapping
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and these are the same tossers that were on the bomber wagon praising and worshipping knights in the nab and after round 1
lol
they sound like some of us tiger fans , maybe the modern bombers will become the old tigers and teh tigers will become a power again
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jack qwants him to coach us :banghead
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Hopefully Essendon keeps it head up its arse for another 18 months before they realise they have a crap list, by that time Gold Coast will be just about up and running and we wont have to bother with Essendon for another 20 years. As for us, if we lose the next 3 games we may as well go the tank get the best picks to Richmond. Its gonna be a big 18 months for all clubs and there strategies going forward, smart clubs will get rid of the dead wood now and get in as many kids as possible.
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What stage HT is Rohan questioning the bombers and calling Johns a dud ;D
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/can-the-bombers-persist-with-johns/2008/04/25/1208743260687.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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jack qwants him to coach us :banghead
Wouldn't be blaming Knighter, Essendon are just a very average side.
Can only work with the cattle you have.
Where is Jack anyhows :shh :rollin
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jack qwants him to coach us :banghead
Wouldn't be blaming Knighter, Essendon are just a very average side.
Can only work with the cattle you have.
Where is Jack anyhows :shh :rollin
Right here you Moron!
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jack qwants him to coach us :banghead
Another quality post by an internet tool ::)
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Why arent you rubbishing Essendon, Jack??
They played the EXACT same crap we did against the pies three weeks ago, not enough kicks, too much stuffing about giving hospital handpasses over and over. If that isnt stupid to learn from a previous how to not play Collingwood I dont know what is. :shh
Even BRETT RATTEN realised after the Richmond gameplan that to beat Collingwood you put the handpass away for the day and kick it much more often to break their lines. But no Knights went along our own way we showed doesnt work and got smashed, the same way and reason we did.
Just not smart.
I guess time will tell if they learned from it like it appears we did.
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Why arent you rubbishing Essendon, Jack??
They played the EXACT same crap we did against the pies three weeks ago, not enough kicks, too much effing about giving hospital handpasses over and over. If that isnt stupid to learn from a previous how to not play Collingwood I dont know what is. :shh
Even BRETT RATTEN realised after the Richmond gameplan that to beat Collingwood you put the handpass away for the day and kick it much more often to break their lines. But no Knights went along our own way we showed doesnt work and got smashed, the same way and reason we did.
Just not smart.
I guess time will tell if they learned from it like it appears we did.
Why arent I rubbishing the Bombers ? Dont have to! There performance speaks for themselves. And I dont barrack for essendon do I :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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there is alot of love in this forum
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Yeah, so much love we are heading for divorce courts
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Why arent you rubbishing Essendon, Jack??
They played the EXACT same crap we did against the pies three weeks ago, not enough kicks, too much effing about giving hospital handpasses over and over. If that isnt stupid to learn from a previous how to not play Collingwood I dont know what is. :shh
Even BRETT RATTEN realised after the Richmond gameplan that to beat Collingwood you put the handpass away for the day and kick it much more often to break their lines. But no Knights went along our own way we showed doesnt work and got smashed, the same way and reason we did.
Just not smart.
I guess time will tell if they learned from it like it appears we did.
Why arent I rubbishing the Bombers ? Dont have to! There performance speaks for themselves. And I dont barrack for essendon do I :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
You felt happy to jump on the bandwagon when they won big time :shh.
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All I said they play an exciting brand of football if you can read.
The injuries they have to key players will kill them.
Dont know about jumping on anyones bandwagon, actually might jump on the ""Buddy Franklin Bandwagon""what do you think ?
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there is alot of love in this forum
Quite "ENRAPTURING" really :scream
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All I said they play an exciting brand of football if you can read.
The injuries they have to key players will kill them.
Dont know about jumping on anyones bandwagon, actually might jump on the ""Buddy Franklin Bandwagon""what do you think ?
I think you said more than that. . .
How about heralding Knights as a good coach after round 1 and saying he'll surprise a lot of people? Hasnt surprised me yet.
By the way there is nothing wrong with liking a player if he's a superstar is there? Not being bitter and just appreciating a genuine talent from another team. ???
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LMAO@ Jak
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The injuries they have to key players will kill them.
Like us with Simmo and co injured last year ;). Good sides have depth.
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What stage HT is Rohan questioning the bombers and calling Johns a dud ;D
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/can-the-bombers-persist-with-johns/2008/04/25/1208743260687.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
That would be stage 2 fear. He has not shown enough callousness to question other blokes not pulling their weight but merely taking it out on a bona fide supporters whipping boy. Let him question a few more of the Bombers lads and then we may see at what stage of development Rohan is. :thumbsup
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Stage 3 reassurances are not that far away either. :lol :rollin :lol
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LOL
The bomber who is flying underneath the criticism radar is Lloyd. He hasn't been the same player since coming back from that hammy torn off the bone. Plus he isn't getting the quality supply he had when he was younger. Where are you Rohan, Robbo and Mike?
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jack qwants him to coach us :banghead
Wouldn't be blaming Knighter, Essendon are just a very average side.
Can only work with the cattle you have.
Where is Jack anyhows :shh :rollin
Right here you Moron!
You think so, all I have done is stand by my club and the rebuilding process that was going to take '5 YEARS'.
I haven't been slagging off the coach at every turn, bagging the recruiting and players and game plan week after week have I.
Not saying at times it wasn't deserved but this is a long road we have been and are still on.
Tables are starting to turn now and some will have to start changing their tunes.
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Tables are starting to turn now and some will have to start changing their tunes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeriTXdLfZk&feature=related
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Yeah, so much love we are heading for divorce courts
may i suggest a pre-nup. :thumbsup
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It seems as though the football world is now in agreement that the essendon list is a shambles.
But it seems some well known posters on this site are still advocates for the old senile person who was responsible for that list to be the coach of richmond.
As I said at the time, it will never happen ever ever. :thumbsup
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Tables are starting to turn now and some will have to start changing their tunes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeriTXdLfZk&feature=related
A personal fav Ramps lol
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Fletcher gone for 3 weeks so he's no guarantee to play in the Dreamtime game.
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Knighter must be feeling a touch of deja vu over this Peverill and Johnson public relations stuff up by the Bomber Prez given Spud forced Matty into retirement and a farewell game.
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I seriously think that if Ess F.C aren't entirely happy with Knighters progress by Round 16 that he should get the sack. Thus RFC making sure they get him back to the club, creating a role for him and respecting him in the way that he should be - a champion of the RFC !
COME HOME MATTHEW !
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im sorry to say this , not really, but knighter after a good start to coaching is starting to look and sound very silly. only has one game plan and no defensive strategies, he wont last
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Knighter's getting no help from their bumbling president Les Patterson either. The bombers board live in fairyland. Hardwick told them the truth and they didn't want to hear it so they gave the job to Matty and now that the promised top 8 finish is/was always a pipe dream, their fans are turning on Knighter. Whoever took over from Sheeds was always taking on a poison chalice.
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Leave it out. There's not one person on whatever coaching selection comittee they had who thought they'd play finals this year.
Knights wont be judged until his third season, and unlike wallace, I bet he wont be carrying around a wooden spoon after 3 years at the club.
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Knights wont be judged until his third season, and unlike wallace, I bet he wont be carrying around a wooden spoon after 3 years at the club.
He'll be carrying one around after 1 year..
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Leave it out. There's not one person on whatever coaching selection comittee they had who thought they'd play finals this year.
Knights wont be judged until his third season, and unlike wallace, I bet he wont be carrying around a wooden spoon after 3 years at the club.
It's well known that when applying for the Essendon job Knighter offered the board a more positive picture of where their list was at and didn't rule out a top 8 finish unlike Hardwick who was more pessimistic and as it turned out realistic. Remember last year Hird on footy classified midway through the year said people within the Essendon inner sanctum thought they were a top 4 side. That club is deluded.
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geez gotta love how they wheeled out sheeds as some token gesture of him been the 40,000 member signed...nice feel good story. :lol
we have the pres opening his gob ...we have the new coach upset by him doing it and the CEO basically agreeing..
lets hope they all enjoy living in a loveless marriage :lol
:nopity they have all made their bed let them lie in it and see how it feels. :lol
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geez gotta love how they wheeled out sheeds as some token gesture of him been the 40,000 member signed...nice feel good story. :lol
Easy to inflate the membership figures when you don't separate ticketed and non-ticketed memberships :whistle. If we did that we could say we have 38k and rising.
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where is jack, this is usually the time when he does a lazarus
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he must be on vacation :thumbsup
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If we lose - 4.45pm Saturday :yep
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Leave it out. There's not one person on whatever coaching selection comittee they had who thought they'd play finals this year.
Knights wont be judged until his third season, and unlike wallace, I bet he wont be carrying around a wooden spoon after 3 years at the club.
It's well known that when applying for the Essendon job Knighter offered the board a more positive picture of where their list was at and didn't rule out a top 8 finish unlike Hardwick who was more pessimistic and as it turned out realistic. Remember last year Hird on footy classified midway through the year said people within the Essendon inner sanctum thought they were a top 4 side. That club is deluded.
So they sacked Sheedy because they had a top 4 list?
Despite what the old wives say, it was time to renew and rebuild, and they took on the person they thought was good at developing a young group of players. No-one who has any say at Windy Hill thinks Knights is going to build a premiership side. They just think he can develop talent and take them a couple of 2 steps forward.
The rest is just rumor and speculation.
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There's $100 on this btw :lol.
It's threads like this I really miss Jack :'(
Err kidding, but it's a good thread ;D
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Leave it out. There's not one person on whatever coaching selection comittee they had who thought they'd play finals this year.
Knights wont be judged until his third season, and unlike wallace, I bet he wont be carrying around a wooden spoon after 3 years at the club.
It's well known that when applying for the Essendon job Knighter offered the board a more positive picture of where their list was at and didn't rule out a top 8 finish unlike Hardwick who was more pessimistic and as it turned out realistic. Remember last year Hird on footy classified midway through the year said people within the Essendon inner sanctum thought they were a top 4 side. That club is deluded.
So they sacked Sheedy because they had a top 4 list?
Despite what the old wives say, it was time to renew and rebuild, and they took on the person they thought was good at developing a young group of players. No-one who has any say at Windy Hill thinks Knights is going to build a premiership side. They just think he can develop talent and take them a couple of 2 steps forward.
The rest is just rumor and speculation.
But how do you know that's what they thought 1980 any more than other speculation. That wasn't the word out of Essendon after Knighter's appointment and they sure weren't denying the top 8 talk after the NAB Cup until now that the proverbial has hit the fan. Even Rohan Connolly couldn't help himself back in March and tipped them to finish in the top 8. I agree 1980 it is time for them to renew and rebuild. I just don't believe they from their board down believed at the time their list was as bad as it is and they thought they didn't need to bottom out again a la 2006.
As for Sheeds - well apart from no finals in 3 years, poor recruiting since their last flag, and a perception they needed a younger coach like Knighter who could connect with Gen-Y, they sacked Sheeds with 6 still games to go because Voss was making coaching noises and they knew 3 other clubs searching for a new coach were interested in him also. They panicked.
Btw they were sitting 4th after round 11 last year when Hird was on Footy Classified. Scraping just a 2 point win against the poor old Dees out of the next 5 games and falling outside the top 8 would've changed their mind.
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They always knew there'd be a long period of acclimitasing to "life after sheedy", which is why they took longer than they should have to sack him.
Every single person at that club knows it will take more than a couple of seasons to learn to live without sheedy.
Knighter will be a good coach, but wont last there too long. Lets hope he doesnt become another Balme, Malthouse or dare I say it, Sheedy who refuses to have anything to do with us because when he was at another club, we slammed the door shut
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Yep Knighter has taken on a list that will take years to rebuild and that will get worse before it gets better with Fletcher, Michael, Lloyd and Lucas 30 or older. Ryder is a gem but their other KP options they put their faith in like Bradley who has gone and Johns are duds. Gumbleton has torn his hammy about 4 times in the space of 12 months so there's no guarantee on him either.
As for Sheeds and Malthouse, we opened the door and they shut it back in our faces. Sheeds just used us time and time again to get another contract at Bomberland. He couldn't do it one last time once our board decided to stick with Wallace for 5 years.
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Sheeds just used us time and time again to get another contract at Bomberland. He couldn't do it one last time once our board decided to stick with Wallace for 5 years.
Sheeds had his chance to coach us, he decided not to. That's history.
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Just so long as they don't turn around and thump us in Dreamtime game.
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If we ever were to change coaches, I'd like to have Chris Bond in the equation as well.
Seems to have been overlooked but he gets good cred from most observers.
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Chris Bond IMO is definitely someone worth getting back to the club. :thumbsup
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Yep Knighter has taken on a list that will take years to rebuild and that will get worse before it gets better with Fletcher, Michael, Lloyd and Lucas 30 or older. Ryder is a gem but their other KP options they put their faith in like Bradley who has gone and Johns are duds. Gumbleton has torn his hammy about 4 times in the space of 12 months so there's no guarantee on him either.
As for Sheeds and Malthouse, we opened the door and they shut it back in our faces. Sheeds just used us time and time again to get another contract at Bomberland. He couldn't do it one last time once our board decided to stick with Wallace for 5 years.
We shut the door on Malthouse well before he was leaving the Eagles and we wanted him back.
Goes back to his days with the Dogs.
Regarding Sheedy, a matter of interpretation. He would never leave the bombers to coach us. Whether he played us or not, doesnt change the fact he never wanted to coach us.
and we were offering a lot more money than they were
Lets not make the same mistake with Matty Knights.
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We shut the door on Malthouse well before he was leaving the Eagles and we wanted him back.
Goes back to his days with the Dogs.
How so?
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Regarding Sheedy, a matter of interpretation. He would never leave the bombers to coach us. Whether he played us or not, doesnt change the fact he never wanted to coach us.
and we were offering a lot more money than they were
Lets not make the same mistake with Matty Knights.
Sheeds also barracked for Essendon as a kid. We were/are his second favourite ::).
As for Knighter, he has to deal with bomber fans who are gutted after today's spanking. They conceded the last 13 goals :o.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=41402
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i remember reading this forum years ags, 2 i think, and jackstar, tigermonk and X were calling for knighter to be our coach. i recall many on here laughing saying he would be no good
lmao
do you see how ALL THE BOMBER players embrace love and respect knighter. the bond he has with them is awsome.
i have never ever ever seen the rfc embrace and maul terry in a huddle like the bombers do with knights
matty has every bombers ears, minds heatrs and souls, they play for him !
we stuffed up again at not getting knights back to richmond
why the hell are richmond serial stuff ups when it comes to making the right call in empoying ppl
:banghead :banghead :banghead
matty knights come home!
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Was quite impressed every time he was in the huddle the young bombers were hanging on every word he said.
He certainly has them playing for him.
Much as I dislike Essendon I'm pleased for Knighter. He was my favourite tiger in the mid-late 90's.
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Yep, remember it well.
I actually told people that the Essendon list was good in fairly good shape
MT said that Sheeds left it in a bad way and essendon were going no where.
Guess what ::)
Sheeds started to play these young players in his last 2 years there.
Matty now has these young players playing an exciting style of play.
actually the bombers were awesome last night.
Good Luck to Matty Knights and the Bombers.
They bottomed out and are now climbing back up.
Now, where is Terrys five year plan.
Oh how we were sucked IN.
My also add love the way that Monfires, Winderlich, Lovett and co play. yes , they are in the 3rd and 4th seasons at windy Hill
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Dont forget Paddy Ryder
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i remember reading this forum years ags, 2 i think, and jackstar, tigermonk and X were calling for knighter to be our coach. i recall many on here laughing saying he would be no good
lmao
do you see how ALL THE BOMBER players embrace love and respect knighter. the bond he has with them is awsome.
i have never ever ever seen the rfc embrace and maul terry in a huddle like the bombers do with knights
matty has every bombers ears, minds heatrs and souls, they play for him !
we stuffed up again at not getting knights back to richmond
why the hell are richmond serial eff ups when it comes to making the right call in empoying ppl
:banghead :banghead :banghead
matty knights come home!
You're an idiot, when he achieves something other than beating a team that's won one game, then good luck to him.
He was one of my favourite people at the club and it's always a bonus to have Richmond people who are good at what they do at the club. But he's not with us so we move on. And it's not the people on here's fault he isn't so grow up you little man ;)
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i remember winderlich in the game that polo debuted in, polo bog, winderlich was creamed.
after the game , sheedy made him run out at an empty MCG, and made him do repeat sprints
look at him now, wont stop running, and our best runners go sideways and backwards
many on here did bag jack monk and x and bagged sheedy at the time cos he repeatedly reinforced that the bombers list is better than ours and were building a premiership team not a basketball team
i just dont understand how and why terry has bluffed so many so called "intelligent" ppl
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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He has achieved something.
they beat Collingwood, carlton, hawthorn.
What else do you want ????
And they absolutely rubbed our nose in it last night.
They play exciting football :thumbsup
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i just dont understand how and why terry has bluffed so many so called "intelligent" ppl
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Because you' wouldn't recognise intelligence if it hit you with a sledgehammer ::)
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i remember reading this forum years ags, 2 i think, and jackstar, tigermonk and X were calling for knighter to be our coach. i recall many on here laughing saying he would be no good
lmao
do you see how ALL THE BOMBER players embrace love and respect knighter. the bond he has with them is awsome.
i have never ever ever seen the rfc embrace and maul terry in a huddle like the bombers do with knights
matty has every bombers ears, minds heatrs and souls, they play for him !
we stuffed up again at not getting knights back to richmond
why the hell are richmond serial eff ups when it comes to making the right call in empoying ppl
:banghead :banghead :banghead
matty knights come home!
You're an idiot, when he achieves something other than beating a team that's won one game, then good luck to him.
He was one of my favourite people at the club and it's always a bonus to have Richmond people who are good at what they do at the club. But he's not with us so we move on. And it's not the people on here's fault he isn't so grow up you little man ;)
thank you for your delightful comments and input, muchly appreciated.
are you lonely, you seem a little stressed and angry?
btw, matty knights has achieved in 1 yr more than terry has in 5!
so i suggest you grow up angry lady ;)
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He has achieved something.
they beat Collingwood, carlton, hawthorn.
What else do you want ????
And they absolutely rubbed our nose in it last night.
They play exciting football :thumbsup
They played a team that has a mission to get rid of a coach
That doesn't count
And we've beat the Hawks Carlton and Collingwood last year - big stuffing deal
You're so in love with this club, Jack
Go and buy a membership and just leave the Tiges
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i just dont understand how and why terry has bluffed so many so called "intelligent" ppl
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Because you' wouldn't recognise intelligence if it hit you with a sledgehammer ::)
maybe thats why i recognise you, i may miss the intelligent ones, but not the feral pigs like you
go back to ur wallace fantasy and get ur toy out
you wanna get personal , bring it on, im sure all on here will appreciate that.....not!
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i just dont understand how and why terry has bluffed so many so called "intelligent" ppl
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Because you' wouldn't recognise intelligence if it hit you with a sledgehammer ::)
maybe thats why i recognise you, i may miss the intelligent ones, but not the feral pigs like you
go back to ur wallace fantasy and get ur toy out
you wanna get personal , bring it on, im sure all on here will appreciate that.....not!
You call people feral pigs and that's not personal :rollin
Mate, you aint worth it
Neither is the club leak, Jack
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My also add love the way that Monfires, Winderlich, Lovett and co play. yes , they are in the 3rd and 4th seasons at windy Hill
5th, 7th and 6th seasons. ;)
They are playing well.
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He has achieved something.
they beat Collingwood, carlton, hawthorn.
What else do you want ????
And they absolutely rubbed our nose in it last night.
They play exciting football :thumbsup
once again i will repeat myself just because im stupid and for all the other stupid people on here to read again
knights has achieved in 1 year more than what terrry has in 5. that is a joke but its true
btw, even wallace said he was outcoached by a young coach. how embarrassing , terry should bury his head and hide
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so moi,
how can jack be the club leak, iirc, he know longer is involved in the club. so if he does as u suggest get info, then someone else is the leak
u may be peasantly surprised but terry himself couls be the leak, we all know he loves teh media and wont coach again and his only career after footy is the media
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so moi,
how can jack be the club leak, iirc, he know longer is involved in the club. so if he does as u suggest get info, then someone else is the leak
u may be peasantly surprised but terry himself couls be the leak, we all know he loves teh media and wont coach again and his only career after footy is the media
I've had many phone calls from Jack when he was at the club
So many it became annoying :banghead
So yes, he's not there any more thank goodness, but a minor detail like being there or not wouldn't stop him from spreading garbage, true or not.
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:birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday
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Danny Frawley took Richmond to a preliminary final and we all know what sort of a coach he was.
Knights has done nothing, I don't personally have anything against Matthew Knights, but my personal opinion is that he will not make it as a coach, over the next 2 years Essendon will implode.
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Danny Frawley took Richmond to a preliminary final and we all know what sort of a coach he was.
Knights has done nothing, I don't personally have anything against Matthew Knights, but my personal opinion is that he will not make it as a coach, over the next 2 years Essendon will implode.
:rollin
he already is showing he has what it takes to make it as a coach
he has shown more in 1 1/4 seasons than terry has in 5
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i remember reading this forum years ags, 2 i think, and jackstar, tigermonk and X were calling for knighter to be our coach. i recall many on here laughing saying he would be no good
LMAO @ X giving himself a rap under a the name TigerTime.
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i must be stupid, i dont get it
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i remember reading this forum years ags, 2 i think, and jackstar, tigermonk and X were calling for knighter to be our coach. i recall many on here laughing saying he would be no good
lmao!
it's that kind of narrow minded neanderthel view that makes a beeline for the roger merrets and Mark harveys of the world ...this is 2009 not 1984...a successful coach in afl football demands a real high callibre individual...simpy because Damian Hardwick played for ESS over Richmond says ABSOLUTELY nothing for his ability to instil team values and galvanise a team to a game plan...well done Knighterafter hearing his first press conference , like Clarkson, i knew they had their man :thumbsup
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i remember reading this forum years ags, 2 i think, and jackstar, tigermonk and X were calling for knighter to be our coach. i recall many on here laughing saying he would be no good
LMAO @ X giving himself a rap under a the name TigerTime.
:lol
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So many genius's - Don't think many bagged Knighter, but what he had ahead of him!
Atm looks like many of us were wrong, hope you really enjoy being right. :banghead
And if you r so effen smart how come u guys rnt coaching? ohh that's right ur just smartars guessworkers and take the credit when you are right and dissapear when ur wrong.
Same song and dance :sleep
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yeah thats it
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So many genius's - Don't think many bagged Knighter, but what he had ahead of him!
Atm looks like many of us were wrong, hope you really enjoy being right. :banghead
And if you r so effen smart how come u guys rnt coaching? ohh that's right ur just smartars guessworkers and take the credit when you are right and dissapear when ur wrong.
Same song and dance :sleep
Actually have coached ;)
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i remember reading this forum years ags, 2 i think, and jackstar, tigermonk and X were calling for knighter to be our coach. i recall many on here laughing saying he would be no good
LMAO @ X giving himself a rap under a the name TigerTime.
Could be right there Jakey
Got little man syndrome written all over this bloke lol
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Loved Knights as a player and would love to have him back at the Tiges.
However LMAO at him having achieved anything, what a load of pigs swill.
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i must be stupid, i dont get it
Sorry mate, I mistook you for X.
Let me explain. And since X is no longer a member and you are not X, I am not breaking any site rules by the following summary.
Now I don't know how long you were reading this site for before you mustered the energy to sign up, but it seems quite a while. X was a strange character. Part village idiot, part village people. A flamboyantly gay, angry midget who used to frequent these parts.
Once again, my sincere apologies. Thank god for everyone that you are not X.
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So many genius's - Don't think many bagged Knighter, but what he had ahead of him!
Atm looks like many of us were wrong, hope you really enjoy being right. :banghead
And if you r so effen smart how come u guys rnt coaching? ohh that's right ur just smartars guessworkers and take the credit when you are right and dissapear when ur wrong.
Same song and dance :sleep
:clapping Hit the nail on the head! Bit like Hutchy, big song and dance when they can claim a right guess....tumbleweeds down the main street for a while if they are wrong.
They are just like all of us on here, arm chair experts but for some reason they think they are more expert than the rest of us :bow
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Tell you that Hutchy is on the money.
Problem is the people hate the truth.
Wait and see what the punt road circus dishes up this week. ::) :banghead :banghead
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Tell you that Hutchy is on the money.
Problem is the people hate the truth.
Wait and see what the punt road circus dishes up this week. ::) :banghead :banghead
We're waiting Jack
Gee wizz, Scoop, you're onto it again :rollin
::)
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i must be stupid, i dont get it
Sorry mate, I mistook you for X.
Let me explain. And since X is no longer a member and you are not X, I am not breaking any site rules by the following summary.
Now I don't know how long you were reading this site for before you mustered the energy to sign up, but it seems quite a while. X was a strange character. Part village idiot, part village people. A flamboyantly gay, angry midget who used to frequent these parts.
Once again, my sincere apologies. Thank god for everyone that you are not X.
Who was a devotee of Kiss ;)
:rollin
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i must be stupid, i dont get it
Sorry mate, I mistook you for X.
Let me explain. And since X is no longer a member and you are not X, I am not breaking any site rules by the following summary.
Now I don't know how long you were reading this site for before you mustered the energy to sign up, but it seems quite a while. X was a strange character. Part village idiot, part village people. A flamboyantly gay, angry midget who used to frequent these parts.
Once again, my sincere apologies. Thank god for everyone that you are not X.
:lol
I think X once described himself as the perfect physical specimen, I don't know where you got the idea that he was a midget!!
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i must be stupid, i dont get it
Sorry mate, I mistook you for X.
Let me explain. And since X is no longer a member and you are not X, I am not breaking any site rules by the following summary.
Now I don't know how long you were reading this site for before you mustered the energy to sign up, but it seems quite a while. X was a strange character. Part village idiot, part village people. A flamboyantly gay, angry midget who used to frequent these parts.
Once again, my sincere apologies. Thank god for everyone that you are not X.
:lol
I think X once described himself as the perfect physical specimen
But he would wouldn't he lol
If he is I am too :nope
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i must be stupid, i dont get it
Sorry mate, I mistook you for X.
Let me explain. And since X is no longer a member and you are not X, I am not breaking any site rules by the following summary.
Now I don't know how long you were reading this site for before you mustered the energy to sign up, but it seems quite a while. X was a strange character. Part village idiot, part village people. A flamboyantly gay, angry midget who used to frequent these parts.
Once again, my sincere apologies. Thank god for everyone that you are not X.
LMAO
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I admit I was critical of the Bombers picking Knights as head coach and I maintain at the time he wasn't the highest credentialled coach available to them. He never had any success as a player or a coach and at the end of the day he still hasn't won anything worthwhile yet. Let's see how they go when Lloyd retires and they have no forward line, not much there other than Gumbleton who can't get on the park and Neagle is a hack.
He only got the job over Hardwick because he sold the board the belief that the team was ahead of where everyone else said they were. They have had a lot of very early picks in the past few years though so there will be some quality coming through, but remember they started well last year too and it didn't end the season that well.
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i must be stupid, i dont get it
Sorry mate, I mistook you for X.
Let me explain. And since X is no longer a member and you are not X, I am not breaking any site rules by the following summary.
Now I don't know how long you were reading this site for before you mustered the energy to sign up, but it seems quite a while. X was a strange character. Part village idiot, part village people. A flamboyantly gay, angry midget who used to frequent these parts.
Once again, my sincere apologies. Thank god for everyone that you are not X.
:lol
I think X once described himself as the perfect physical specimen
But he would wouldn't he lol
If he is I am too :nope
maybe you two are perfect for each other :rollin :lol :rollin :lol
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maybe you two are perfect for each other :rollin :lol :rollin :lol
There were three of us who commented :wallywink
Woohoo a threesome hahaha
;)
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maybe you two are perfect for each other :rollin :lol :rollin :lol
There were three of us who commented :wallywink
Woohoo a threesome hahaha
;)
kinky! or is this afl culture lol u may want jackstar to join in lol oh this afl/nrl culture lol
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Everyone was wrong about Matty Knights except the Essendon hierarchy. It was one of the biggest shock appointments I've seen given he was replacing the biggest coaching shoes in AFL in Sheeds (based on years of service).
How did Essendon get it so right? He was in their system and they knew first hand what he was capable of.
And that speaks volumes to me. Matthew Knights was in the Bombers system and not ours because Wayne Campbell stabbed him in the back. Whether the club didnt want to groom him or whether he was so jarred at how the club treated him, the fact is that along with Malthouse & Sheedy, the club has yet again let another potential premiership coach slip out of its structure.
I have no doubt at this point Knights will be a successful coach. He has no fear, he backs himself, his tactics and his team, and he isnt afraid to talk straight.
It makes me loathe the people that run this club no end that they're too busy infighting, politicking and leaking decade after decade to break the vicious circle. Knights has been lost to us for the same reason Malthouse was.
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Everyone was wrong about Matty Knights except the Essendon hierarchy. It was one of the biggest shock appointments I've seen given he was replacing the biggest coaching shoes in AFL in Sheeds (based on years of service).
How did Essendon get it so right? He was in their system and they knew first hand what he was capable of.
And that speaks volumes to me. Matthew Knights was in the Bombers system and not ours because Wayne Campbell stabbed him in the back. Whether the club didnt want to groom him or whether he was so jarred at how the club treated him, the fact is that along with Malthouse & Sheedy, the club has yet again let another potential premiership coach slip out of its structure.
I have no doubt at this point Knights will be a successful coach. He has no fear, he backs himself, his tactics and his team, and he isnt afraid to talk straight.
It makes me loathe the people that run this club no end that they're too busy infighting, politicking and leaking decade after decade to break the vicious circle. Knights has been lost to us for the same reason Malthouse was.
youve gotta be kidding 1980
Knights has done what he had to do and paid his dues as a coach, he failed at port adelaide and failed at the bendigo bombers as well. One thing he did do though was learn from his failures, he is a much better coach now from learning his trade at different environments than if he stayed at Richmond.
If Knights is such a loyal servant of the tigers he will come back. He will hone his skills and come back when the time is right. Probably In three years time when we screw over our latest coach. Hopefully people wont be hammering Knights ( just like you have Malthouse and Sheedy ) for not coming back and rebuilding richmond, when you and I both know that having the right infrastructure around the coach is just as imprtant as having the right coach. By infrastructure I mean strong board, great development prgramme, elite facilities and elite recruiting network, basically I mean $$$$$$$$. The bombers have money and up until this year we didnt. So basically when you add that to our poor culture we had/have no chance.
I hope and prey he makes a success of his career at essendon. If he does that it will be one for the hsitory books, I cant remember a player from a perenially unachieving club going on to beoming a premiership coach. Would be a huge story and good luck to him.
YOu cant blame Campbell for that. And I hate Campbell
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why hate campbell , he and knights are very very similar
if anything wayne has more grey matter and that cant be a bad thing
and wayne LOVES richmond
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why hate campbell , he and knights are very very similar
:scream :scream :scream
Like in Campbell's dreams maybe
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no not his dreams, just bec you dont see it thats not my problem
their footy styles and beliefs are on par, same as game styles.
dont know why many bag wayne so much, he gave his all to our club. morons
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Actually have coached ;)
We know We know - But Keilor Park or whatever don't cut it Jack. ;) ;)
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If Knights is such a loyal servant of the tigers he will come back. He will hone his skills and come back when the time is right. Probably In three years time when we screw over our latest coach.
Wouldn't it be the ultimate irony if was Campbell who took over as coach of Richmond for 3 years then Knights came back to Richmond and took his job
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Actually have coached ;)
We know We know - But Keilor Park or whatever don't cut it Jack. ;) ;)
Nah, Keilor Park havent won a flag for 20 years ::) ::) ::)
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Everyone was wrong about Matty Knights except the Essendon hierarchy. It was one of the biggest shock appointments I've seen given he was replacing the biggest coaching shoes in AFL in Sheeds (based on years of service).
How did Essendon get it so right? He was in their system and they knew first hand what he was capable of.
And that speaks volumes to me. Matthew Knights was in the Bombers system and not ours because Wayne Campbell stabbed him in the back. Whether the club didnt want to groom him or whether he was so jarred at how the club treated him, the fact is that along with Malthouse & Sheedy, the club has yet again let another potential premiership coach slip out of its structure.
I have no doubt at this point Knights will be a successful coach. He has no fear, he backs himself, his tactics and his team, and he isnt afraid to talk straight.
It makes me loathe the people that run this club no end that they're too busy infighting, politicking and leaking decade after decade to break the vicious circle. Knights has been lost to us for the same reason Malthouse was.
And that is why Campbell will not make it as a coach at Tigerland because the supporters will 'eat' him as they have others before him.
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i must be stupid, i dont get it
Sorry mate, I mistook you for X.
Let me explain. And since X is no longer a member and you are not X, I am not breaking any site rules by the following summary.
Now I don't know how long you were reading this site for before you mustered the energy to sign up, but it seems quite a while. X was a strange character. Part village idiot, part village people. A flamboyantly gay, angry midget who used to frequent these parts.
Once again, my sincere apologies. Thank god for everyone that you are not X.
:lol
I think X once described himself as the perfect physical specimen
But he would wouldn't he lol
If he is I am too :nope
maybe you two are perfect for each other :rollin :lol :rollin :lol
LMAO X.
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Everyone was wrong about Matty Knights except the Essendon hierarchy. It was one of the biggest shock appointments I've seen given he was replacing the biggest coaching shoes in AFL in Sheeds (based on years of service).
How did Essendon get it so right? He was in their system and they knew first hand what he was capable of.
And that speaks volumes to me. Matthew Knights was in the Bombers system and not ours because Wayne Campbell stabbed him in the back. Whether the club didnt want to groom him or whether he was so jarred at how the club treated him, the fact is that along with Malthouse & Sheedy, the club has yet again let another potential premiership coach slip out of its structure.
I have no doubt at this point Knights will be a successful coach. He has no fear, he backs himself, his tactics and his team, and he isnt afraid to talk straight.
It makes me loathe the people that run this club no end that they're too busy infighting, politicking and leaking decade after decade to break the vicious circle. Knights has been lost to us for the same reason Malthouse was.
youve gotta be kidding 1980
Knights has done what he had to do and paid his dues as a coach, he failed at port adelaide and failed at the bendigo bombers as well. One thing he did do though was learn from his failures, he is a much better coach now from learning his trade at different environments than if he stayed at Richmond.
If Knights is such a loyal servant of the tigers he will come back. He will hone his skills and come back when the time is right. Probably In three years time when we screw over our latest coach. Hopefully people wont be hammering Knights ( just like you have Malthouse and Sheedy ) for not coming back and rebuilding richmond, when you and I both know that having the right infrastructure around the coach is just as imprtant as having the right coach. By infrastructure I mean strong board, great development prgramme, elite facilities and elite recruiting network, basically I mean $$$$$$$$. The bombers have money and up until this year we didnt. So basically when you add that to our poor culture we had/have no chance.
I hope and prey he makes a success of his career at essendon. If he does that it will be one for the hsitory books, I cant remember a player from a perenially unachieving club going on to beoming a premiership coach. Would be a huge story and good luck to him.
YOu cant blame Campbell for that. And I hate Campbell
I've got nothing but admiration for Knights for doing it the hard way and nothing but contempt for Campbell for not.
I'm sure the issues between us and Knights go beyond Campbell and the captaincy. We think we're still such a big club and that everyone wants to coach us and why would we bother grooming someone like Knights? From what I remember we also scorned Malthouse when he was starting out and he never forgot it.
Cant hold it against Malthouse for not coming back to coach us or Knights if he never does. It was up to the club to see the coaching potential and groom them. Expecting them to come back after they've proven themselves and show loyalty when we've given none out is naive.
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I've got nothing but admiration for Knights for doing it the hard way and nothing but contempt for Campbell for not.
I'm sure the issues between us and Knights go beyond Campbell and the captaincy. We think we're still such a big club and that everyone wants to coach us and why would we bother grooming someone like Knights? From what I remember we also scorned Malthouse when he was starting out and he never forgot it.
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oh ok, I get it, so we scorned Knighter by not offering him a role with the club yet you have nothing but contempt for campbell because we offerered him one...umm, makes sense ::)
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Congratulations to Matty Knights on the way the Bombers are playing this year.
I think he is a good young coach and has his team playing very well.
I would love to see him coach at the Tigers at some stage.
However, I don't think it will happen for the following reasons;
A. I believe he is very bitter about the way he was treated at Richmond by Frawley and the clubs support of Spud decisions.
B. Not being offered any sort of coaching role with the club when he decided to get into coaching.
C. The vitriol heaped on his coaching of the Bendigo side (who to be fair weren't particularly successful with him as coach) by tigers supporters
D. Fear of the way our supporters will treat another rebuild (which will have to happen)
IMO we have a better list than the Bombers. I hope we can find a coach who can develop the list that we have at our disposal.
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i find this issue of supporters eating coaches at Richmond a complete joke. all it needs is for 1 coach to come in and get rid of who ever is not going to be part of the next premiership assault. It needs to be done over 2 years and not more than 2 years. Wallace made the mistake of not gutting the joint early enough and starting again. The new coach, if he does that has a chance at changing the culture. Richmond is a losing culture, we dont have winners at Richmond, the only winner is Cousins and hed be just about the only exception to my call of sacking every player who is not going to be there when it counts. The second issue is the club clearly has issues with its development of coaches, they need to find the money, hire 3 or 4 development coaches and give more time to each players development.
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it makes me sick, it makes me cry when i see our Matthew Knights at Essendon. come home Matthew, we still love you!
i can't believe we treat our Champions with such respect. saying that, Richardson should go out on his own terms!
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I know the Bombers made the finals but I'm still surprised they extended Knighters' contract by 2 whole years so he's got another 3 years to go. No Lloyd, Lovett and Lucas (although he was finished) and they scrapped into the top 8 with just 10 wins and were flogged by almost 100 points in the elimination final. No doubt they improved quite a bit but are they getting ahead of themselves just a touch. I could see them missing the finals next year if Neagle and Gumbleton don't stand up for most of the season.
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MT Essendon Football Club and their board have progressed nicely to Stage 6 after two years of the Post Sheeds era. What the f*** anger 1 took place during season 2008. Remember their 100 point loss to a crap team like St Kilda in rd 22 2008. But remember now that the retirements of club stalwarts are taking place the rot is settling in just outside Windy Hill and looking for a nice spot to get cozy for the next 20 years :lol :rollin :lol
Stage 6 What the f***/anger2.
Surely we cannot be that bad surely we can't keep
losing the way he have been. After all we managed to coax blokes from the VFL who have failed already in their attempts at AFL football to come back and play AFL football. That in itself is a top 6 job isn't it? The guys we have recruited are really good why do we keep losing? Our coach has good intentions. This is so mind boggling. I just can't fathom as to why we are not winning. We are not poo. With a bit of luck things will change I am sure of that. We are better than a 5-17 side I will tell you that, stuff what anyone says. Its time to fly the flag for the footy club what's the talk back hotline for SEN?
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I know the Bombers made the finals but I'm still surprised they extended Knighters' contract by 2 whole years so he's got another 3 years to go. No Lloyd, Lovett and Lucas (although he was finished) and they scrapped into the top 8 with just 10 wins and were flogged by almost 100 points in the elimination final. No doubt they improved quite a bit but are they getting ahead of themselves just a touch. I could see them missing the finals next year if Neagle and Gumbleton don't stand up for most of the season.
I totally agree, getting way ahead of themselves. They are linked to every player likely to be traded, as if they are topping up their list for a premiership tilt? You have got to be kidding me!!! Pin thier hopes on Jobey Watson, puhlease the kid is an over rated goofball DT point getter. Matty Knights is going down a very Richmond like path of a team overplaying one year and then topping up the list with over the hill also rans to have a "tilt" lmao be lucky to make finals next year.
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Tall Poppy creaping in for you boys.
The Bombers are on the right track and they made finals with several of the older players having little or no influence.
How do some of these names sound to you
Pears
Neagle
Hurley
Hill
Ryder
Watson
Winderlich
Prismall
Stanton
Mcveigh
There are probably more i left out that would get a game at Punt Road before most of our list.
Pretty good from where im standing.
Knighter has worked this list beautifully with some help from Sheeds
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Inside 24 months, Knights has created what he believes is a premiership list ???.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/bombers-coach-swings-axe-to-stamp-style/story-e6frf9l6-1225796261504
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Some good laughs in this thread!! :lol
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have to agree there. :lol
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SACKED Essendon coach Matthew Knights has met the Crows as Adelaide seeks a new midfield coach and the former Richmond captain searches for a way to stay in the AFL.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/knights-in-talks-with-crows/story-e6frecoc-1225938849677
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Re-reading this thread is good for one thing - highlighting why some poster's opinions aren't worth much. :lol :rollin :lol
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I thought he was getting the senior gig at Southport?
Tambling & Knighta in one off season, my crowie mates are going ape poo :clapping
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How the wheel turns hey !
Don't write us off for finals in 2012 or even next year :shh
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Matthew Knights has been quietly working with Adelaide for no financial reward since the 2011 pre-season helping Neil Craig with opposition analysis. His role, according to the Crows, has been to analyse key performances and individuals from teams the Crows are about to play.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/knights-works-with-crows-20110712-1hc8y.html#ixzz1Ruur11KE
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easy to volunteer when Essendon are footing the bill :lol
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gee and arent the Crows doing so well.
Knighter good player but please dont come back to Punt Road to coach, in any form
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crows woes nothing to do with opposition analysis :wallywink
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Knighter will have a wry smile now :yep.
The man who replaced him at the Bombers is not the messiah; he's just a very naughty boy ;D.