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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: blaisee on June 07, 2008, 04:39:39 PM
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its time to go the tank
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We don't have to.
Anyone who plays us must think there are two leagues, one that's competitive and one where if you are in trouble just put some players back and wait for the soft turnovers. In our case wait for it to go to McMahon or Tivers or Pettifer and they'll give it back to you and hand you a scoring opportunity.
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We don't have to.
Anyone who plays us must think there are two leagues, one that's competitive and one where if you are in trouble just put some players back and wait for the soft turnovers. In our case wait for it to go to McMahon or Tivers or Pettifer and they'll give it back to you and hand you a scoring opportunity.
for all u losers than constantly defend our pathetic coach and playes like mcmahon, petts and co, where are you now.
im waiting for a "i told u so" but that wont happen cause some of u live in lala land and think we r going places.
we r a rabble no doubt about that and our coach is comical.
30 points down and we scored 2 in a row and what does he do, throw a loose man in defence.
he has gotta go and that is a fact.
like the blues when they let pagan go mid season its time we let this fruitloop go and continue his solarium business.
the players dont have confidence in him and its so obvious he is not the right man for this football club
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For the love of God, if they have any brains down at Punt Rd they will play all the kids from next week. and they will tank the rest of the season. Give us picks 1 3 20 or whatever it will be and give us some hope.
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For the love of God, if they have any brains down at Punt Rd they will play all the kids from next week. and they will tank the rest of the season. Give us picks 1 3 20 or whatever it will be and give us some hope.
An oxymoron Ramps. If they play the kids then we will start to win games again - that's what did it for us earlier in the season. We have gone back to the side that lost the first few games so ingloriously and are now paying the same price.
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its time to go the tank
I feel honored today. Anyone else who wants to be smart about it and join us on the TANK, your all welcome to join.
Changes for next week
Out-
Thursfield (Hamstring)
Richardson (Nothing) but he cant win the brownlow, so give him a rest this week and start managing him towards 2009.
Tivendale (Ommitted)
Pettifer (Ommitted)
Bowden (Ommitted)
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Morton for (Pettifer)
Collins for (Tivendale)
Rance for (Thursfield)
Hughes for (Richardson)
Conners for (Bowden)
And if Foley can feign an injury, lets rest him for a week and bring in Riewoldt.
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its time to go the tank
I feel honored today. Anyone else who wants to be smart about it and join us on the TANK, your all welcome to join.
Changes for next week
Out-
Thursfield (Hamstring)
Richardson (Nothing) but he cant win the brownlow, so give him a rest this week and start managing him towards 2009.
Tivendale (Ommitted)
Pettifer (Ommitted)
Bowden (Ommitted)
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Morton for (Pettifer)
Collins for (Tivendale)
Rance for (Thursfield)
Hughes for (Richardson)
Conners for (Bowden)
And if Foley can feign an injury, lets rest him for a week and bring in Riewoldt.
Amen to that.
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For the love of God, if they have any brains down at Punt Rd they will play all the kids from next week. and they will tank the rest of the season. Give us picks 1 3 20 or whatever it will be and give us some hope.
An oxymoron Ramps. If they play the kids then we will start to win games again - that's what did it for us earlier in the season. We have gone back to the side that lost the first few games so ingloriously and are now paying the same price.
Yep. A leopard doesn't change his spots.
It also shows that you play players who will be good AFL players ahead of those who dominate VFL yet fail to make the big step-up. Cotch was hardly getting Tiv numbers at Coburg yet ability wise they are in a different league. The kids may be up and down but they will have a go and will surprise. The likes of Tivs, Petts and Hyde will be their usual mediocre selves.
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We don't have to.
Anyone who plays us must think there are two leagues, one that's competitive and one where if you are in trouble just put some players back and wait for the soft turnovers. In our case wait for it to go to McMahon or Tivers or Pettifer and they'll give it back to you and hand you a scoring opportunity.
for all u losers than constantly defend our pathetic coach and playes like mcmahon, petts and co, where are you now.
im waiting for a "i told u so" but that wont happen cause some of u live in lala land and think we r going places.
we r a rabble no doubt about that and our coach is comical.
30 points down and we scored 2 in a row and what does he do, throw a loose man in defence.
he has gotta go and that is a fact.
like the blues when they let pagan go mid season its time we let this fruitloop go and continue his solarium business.
the players dont have confidence in him and its so obvious he is not the right man for this football club
Daniel. you are correct.
The following players ARENT uo to AFL standards and we are GOING NO WHERE by playing them.
McMahon. How on earth did we sign him up for three years ::) (lovechild of the coach.)
Schulz. No where near AFL standard, he cant play
Tivendale. I dont have to say anymore.
Pettifer. Hopeless, wouldnt get a game at another AFL club.
Polak, I told you all 2 years ago about him but posters here must be on some drugs, will never ever be any good.
Tambling. Cotchin has already passed him, like chalk and cheese these two, Sorry Ritchie, you might be better off another club.
GAME PLAN. We are going no where by repeatedly kicking the ball 15-20 metres. On occassions when we isolated Simmons etc , we looked half ok
We overuse the ball in D 50 so bad its not even funny.
I have said this before, Wallace has little idea, he has most people on the website well and truely sucked in, you will all wake up when its tooo late I am afraid, your like lost sheep
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Last season we called it the CARLTANK and we were all mortified. All they did was beat the system. We missed out on Kreuzer because lets face it that is who we were going to get. OK we got Cotch a blessing in disguise. We have beaten Freo 1 win Bombers 2 Blues 4. Right now we have an opportunity to use the system to our advantage before Gold Coast and W Sydney send us back to the stone age for another 20 odd years like the Bombers.
Lose to Melbourne 2 games and as much as people will be horrified lose to Carlton in our centenary. Hey they beat the Pies in 92 in their centenary we'll get over it. Lose to the Bombers in rd 16 and Freo in rd 21. All other games we will lose cos we aint good enough plain and simple.
We will get pick 1 pick 2 or 3 and then wither 18 or 19 and have blokes like Brown Newman Bowden Petts up for trade to get another top 230 or so pick. It will be for the greater good. For all you loyalists in 5 yrs time you won't even remember we lost to the Blues in our centennary if we have a half decent team plus they can't have another priority pick ahead of us. The greater good people the future. Operation no more wins should be on in earnest and must be carried out forcefully rigidly and precisely. Perhaps we should bring in Hyde Howat and retain Tivvas permanently for the rest of the year and a few other gems to ensure we get this plan off on the right foot. For the Greater Good fellow Richmondites. Use the loopholes in the system to advantage.
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Last season we called it the CARLTANK and we were all mortified. All they did was beat the system. We missed out on Kreuzer because lets face it that is who we were going to get. OK we got Cotch a blessing in disguise. We have beaten Freo 1 win Bombers 2 Blues 4. Right now we have an opportunity to use the system to our advantage before Gold Coast and W Sydney send us back to the stone age for another 20 odd years like the Bombers.
Lose to Melbourne 2 games and as much as people will be horrified lose to Carlton in our centenary. Hey they beat the Pies in 92 in their centenary we'll get over it. Lose to the Bombers in rd 16 and Freo in rd 21. All other games we will lose cos we aint good enough plain and simple.
We will get pick 1 pick 2 or 3 and then wither 18 or 19 and have blokes like Brown Newman Bowden Petts up for trade to get another top 230 or so pick. It will be for the greater good. For all you loyalists in 5 yrs time you won't even remember we lost to the Blues in our centennary if we have a half decent team plus they can't have another priority pick ahead of us. The greater good people the future. Operation no more wins should be on in earnest and must be carried out forcefully rigidly and precisely. Perhaps we should bring in Hyde Howat and retain Tivvas permanently for the rest of the year and a few other gems to ensure we get this plan off on the right foot. For the Greater Good fellow Richmondites. Use the loopholes in the system to advantage.
It is my view that the Greeks should be running richmond. All aboard the Ramptank! ;D
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Last season we called it the CARLTANK and we were all mortified. All they did was beat the system. We missed out on Kreuzer because lets face it that is who we were going to get. OK we got Cotch a blessing in disguise. We have beaten Freo 1 win Bombers 2 Blues 4. Right now we have an opportunity to use the system to our advantage before Gold Coast and W Sydney send us back to the stone age for another 20 odd years like the Bombers.
Lose to Melbourne 2 games and as much as people will be horrified lose to Carlton in our centenary. Hey they beat the Pies in 92 in their centenary we'll get over it. Lose to the Bombers in rd 16 and Freo in rd 21. All other games we will lose cos we aint good enough plain and simple.
We will get pick 1 pick 2 or 3 and then wither 18 or 19 and have blokes like Brown Newman Bowden Petts up for trade to get another top 230 or so pick. It will be for the greater good. For all you loyalists in 5 yrs time you won't even remember we lost to the Blues in our centennary if we have a half decent team plus they can't have another priority pick ahead of us. The greater good people the future. Operation no more wins should be on in earnest and must be carried out forcefully rigidly and precisely. Perhaps we should bring in Hyde Howat and retain Tivvas permanently for the rest of the year and a few other gems to ensure we get this plan off on the right foot. For the Greater Good fellow Richmondites. Use the loopholes in the system to advantage.
You are obviously not of my age and expected life span and can wait for all of this to happen :banghead
However in the meantime it is obvious we have a selection committee with little nous who are taking the club backwards :banghead :banghead
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who is on the selection committee ;D
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Last season we called it the CARLTANK and we were all mortified.
I was never against tanking, I was against Carlton tanking and getting our number 1 pick which we performed so badly for.
It may have been a blessing in disguise though, we might have picked Kreuzer.
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It sounded like Caro was aboard the Rampstank today on 3aw - basically we have nothing left to play (win) for. Great draft system Andy D and AA ::).
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the train is leaving the station shortly, all aboard the train that lands us Natanui and Hurley or Natanui and Rich ;D
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the train is leaving the station shortly, all aboard the train that lands us Natanui and Hurley or Natanui and Rich ;D
Forget about early draft picks, they wont fix the problems.
Ask you this, why was David Cloke so adamant that he didnt want his son( Travis ) at Punt Road.?
Why didnt Chris Judd even remotely consider going to Punt Road.
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Neither player wanted anything to do with Wallace or Miller..
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the train is leaving the station shortly, all aboard the train that lands us Natanui and Hurley or Natanui and Rich ;D
Forget about early draft picks, they wont fix the problems.
Ask you this, why was David Cloke so adamant that he didnt want his son( Travis ) at Punt Road.?
Why didnt Chris Judd even remotely consider going to Punt Road.
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Neither player wanted anything to do with Wallace or Miller..
Im not saying that theyre gonna fix the problem, im only saying that its better for us to have them than for another club to have them. We dont have enough talent and Wallace will probably be leaving soon enough. The new coach should be given as much new talent as possible.
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the train is leaving the station shortly, all aboard the train that lands us Natanui and Hurley or Natanui and Rich ;D
Forget about early draft picks, they wont fix the problems.
Ask you this, why was David Cloke so adamant that he didnt want his son( Travis ) at Punt Road.?
Why didnt Chris Judd even remotely consider going to Punt Road.
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Neither player wanted anything to do with Wallace or Miller..
May as well get the early picks Jack as TW even if he sees out his contract won't be given an extension and will be shown the door as well as his merry old band of jesters in Royal, King and co. That way hopefully a more capable coach will ensure these kids have not been suffocated enough by Terry and his bullskata and we will be able to retrieve some of their confidence and work positively with that for the benefit of the club the team and us fans.
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What is of real concern is that the young players are picking up bad habits .
Noticed Cotchin yesterday trying to hit up targets by foot that were 10-15 metres.away
Also noticed Foley and Tambling standing way back to far aat stoppages and centre bounces.
Also a common problem which has spread like cnacer is our inabilty to move the ball on quick, too many times they hold onto the ball when in the middle of the ground after a mark and allow opposition to push back. Look at Geelong, the play on at all costs, especially when past the middle of the ground.,quick entry into inside F 50 is a key to success, Pity Wallet and his clowns dont realise this.
And any player who is inside F 50 should be having a shot, if you cant kick the distance, you shouldnt be playing AFL.
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is our inabilty to move the ball on quick, too mant imes they hold onto the ball when in the middle of the ground after a mark and allow opposition to push back
I think they caught this from Kayne Pettifer
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the train is leaving the station shortly, all aboard the train that lands us Natanui and Hurley or Natanui and Rich ;D
Forget about early draft picks, they wont fix the problems.
Ask you this, why was David Cloke so adamant that he didnt want his son( Travis ) at Punt Road.?
Why didnt Chris Judd even remotely consider going to Punt Road.
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Neither player wanted anything to do with Wallace or Miller..
Im not saying that theyre gonna fix the problem, im only saying that its better for us to have them than for another club to have them. We dont have enough talent and Wallace will probably be leaving soon enough. The new coach should be given as much new talent as possible.
so true now people will tell you david cloke wanted all 3 sons to play in the one team but i think he just didn't want his sons to come to a rabble like our club.
chris judd to punt road!! who are we kidding why would he come and play under wallace and have idiots like miller running the club.
judd is a superstar and wants to play finals. we wouldn't even know to spell the word let alone play in them.
march should get rid of TW now and bring in a new coach to see out the year, like ratten last year.
new coach, 3 top 20 draft picks is what we need. not to beat demons, blues and essendon.
i hope the demons pump us next week, and TW face is spread across every newspaper in town and then maybe the calls for his head will come loud and clear.
he is the cancer!! short sideways kicking. bad recruiting and game day tactics.
his gotta go and now because with him as coach he will try and win as many games as possible.
our only chance at the draft table is a new coach who will enforce the tank train
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Im not so sure tanking is the thing to do, Coaching and Recruiting seems more our problem. I didnt get to see then Adelaide game or team list due to work but we had 10? first round picks in our team against Sydney. Another 1 or 2 wont make the smallest difference if we dont have the nouse and support from the rest of the club to 1, get them to AFL standard match fitness and 2, a decent coach with at least A game plan.
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You might find that Wallace and March are good friends, interesting times ahead ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Im not so sure tanking is the thing to do, Coaching and Recruiting seems more our problem. I didnt get to see then Adelaide game or team list due to work but we had 10? first round picks in our team against Sydney. Another 1 or 2 wont make the smallest difference if we dont have the nouse and support from the rest of the club to 1, get them to AFL standard match fitness and 2, a decent coach with at least A game plan.
mate it is the way to go
would you rather a few worthless wins against the bombers, dees and freo. not for me stuff that.
this was out last chance this week to avoid going down this line. we proved we are not up to scratch and need some more quality players down at the club.
how exciting would it be to have a new coach, assistants and 3 top 20 picks.
look at the blues they played the system very smart last year and have won. they are reaping the rewards very nicely wouldn't you say.
pagan like wallace are rubbish.
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or the first time in my whole life i will go the demons game this week not caring if we win.
imo it will be the most hallow victory if we get up because it will set us back in the draft pecking order
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Im not so sure tanking is the thing to do, Coaching and Recruiting seems more our problem. I didnt get to see then Adelaide game or team list due to work but we had 10? first round picks in our team against Sydney. Another 1 or 2 wont make the smallest difference if we dont have the nouse and support from the rest of the club to 1, get them to AFL standard match fitness and 2, a decent coach with at least A game plan.
mate it is the way to go
would you rather a few worthless wins against the bombers, dees and freo. not for me stuff that.
this was out last chance this week to avoid going down this line. we proved we are not up to scratch and need some more quality players down at the club.
how exciting would it be to have a new coach, assistants and 3 top 20 picks.
look at the blues they played the system very smart last year and have won. they are reaping the rewards very nicely wouldn't you say.
pagan like wallace are rubbish.
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or the first time in my whole life i will go the demons game this week not caring if we win.
imo it will be the most hallow victory if we get up because it will set us back in the draft pecking order
Of course id like another 2-3 great players, the point i was making that it would be worthless unless we make other changes at the club, I for one was happy when Wallace was appointed our coach but now i have changed my opinion and dont think he is the right man for the job.
More Kids regardless of if they are 1st or 5th or even 10th round picks wont change the way we play with our apparent lack of player development.
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Short term losses for long term gain.
Go Demons x2 this year
Lets give Matty Knights a helping hand in rd 16
and as much as this pains me lets not hinder the Blues finals charge. We all know its an exercise in futility but who are we to stop them.
Hopefully Wallet and Miller and the Assistants are sent on thir way also.
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We should tank, coughing up wins against the likes of Carlton and Essendon and Melbourne. For the likes of CArlton- cheap wins will land them in no mans land, they will come back to the field, Essendon are rooted anyway and so is Melbourne.
Lets just get some good kids.
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the train is leaving the station shortly, all aboard the train that lands us Natanui and Hurley or Natanui and Rich ;D
Forget about early draft picks, they wont fix the problems.
Ask you this, why was David Cloke so adamant that he didnt want his son( Travis ) at Punt Road.?
Why didnt Chris Judd even remotely consider going to Punt Road.
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Neither player wanted anything to do with Wallace or Miller..
yep and neither did simmo johno or browny.
Get your head out of your ar@e
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Johno=worst captain in the AFL.
Simmo came because he wanted to come back to Vic , and a 5 year contract was on the table.
Browny came over to play finals footy, what a moron.
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the tank will be on in earnest this week vs Melbourne
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Wonemarri and Robertson should have 2 defenders put on them that play loose, very loose.
That should result in about 10 goals.
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Robbo out for the season Ramps, too much Garlic in the souvo?
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My apologies for not keeping up with the workings of the snow skiing jet set. Fortunately Im just a boy from the working classes lol.
Wonaemarri will do the business, all we have to do is play him loose and we will be one week closer to the aim.
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We always make a habit of either playing teams or getting players back into form.
Perhaps we can also take some pressure of a few of their more senior blokes like Green Yze McDonald McLean and co. Of course the tanking dream can backfire if Melbourne want to ensure they get pick 1 in the draft and hence we blow out to a meaningless 7 goal lead at quarter time and ease to a 5 goal win. Ironically we play them in rd 22 also.
Interesting week ahead for the club, the team, Terry and us fans. Just another week.
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Promising performance against the Pies, Stynes has just been announced as the new chairman. The Dee's have a fair bit of incentive.
We rest Richo's knee, we rest Cotchin (he's young and no pre-season), bring in Hyde and have a starting midfield of Tivendale, Hyde and Pettifer, with McMahon and Bowden rotating with them. Comfortable 7-8 goal loss for us.
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If we go the Tank then what will we known as Richmond Tankers. Thnanks but no thanks. Y\ou can stick that where it doesn't fit. If we think of this we are a mob of gutless idiots. I rather be known as the Toothless Tigers.
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You might find that Wallace and March are good friends, interesting times ahead ;) ;) ;) ;)
WRONG......AGAIN
They arent actually good friends at all.
They have a good working relationship, its a big difference.
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If we go the Tank then what will we known as Richmond Tankers. Thnanks but no thanks. Y\ou can stick that where it doesn't fit. If we think of this we are a mob of gutless idiots. I rather be known as the Toothless Tigers.
Carlton are being lauded as geniuses for getting Kreuzer and Judd.
All they had to do is lose.
We tank, cop abuse from opposition fans through the pre-season, get a few wins early and then we sit back and wait for the accolades.
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You might find that Wallace and March are good friends, interesting times ahead ;) ;) ;) ;)
WRONG......AGAIN
They arent actually good friends at all.
They have a good working relationship, its a big difference.
You are a complete fool.
They are good freinds.
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Interesting times ahead
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If we go the Tank then what will we known as Richmond Tankers. Thnanks but no thanks. Y\ou can stick that where it doesn't fit. If we think of this we are a mob of gutless idiots. I rather be known as the Toothless Tigers.
We worry about the perception of what other teams think about us too much. If they think we are mentally fragile who cares unskilled who cares a brothel of a footy club who cares a club going nowhere who cares 2 final apps in 26 years who cares. Now if we lose our last 11 games and tank to get the first go at quality young talent you are afraid of the stigma when in 2 years we may be the best up and coming side in the AFL with the world at our feet. I just don't get it.
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Tanking is only one way is saying we are one hell of a hopeless team with no balls. And you have to think of getting the better picks in the draft. Well look at Tanbling, he's proven what. To me not much too i think that blows that out of the water.
Why not hold our heads up straight and play like our song goes. I don't hear it saying we're from tankerland a mob that runs from a fight whenever it can. Cause thats is what it should be if we tank.
Stuff early picks we have yet to do any good with then apart from Lids. And a few others to.
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We won't lose. We will finish with 7 wins and pride in hand.
I agree though, we should start to tank. :shh
Stripes
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Tanking is only one way is saying we are one hell of a hopeless team with no balls. And you have to think of getting the better picks in the draft. Well look at Tanbling, he's proven what. To me not much too i think that blows that out of the water.
Why not hold our heads up straight and play like our song goes. I don't hear it saying we're from tankerland a mob that runs from a fight whenever it can. Cause thats is what it should be if we tank.
Stuff early picks we have yet to do any good with then apart from Lids. And a few others to.
I am sure Bushranger Carlton fans were as mortified as many of our fans are or will be if we do follow that path and if you think it don't make a difference to the end product then so be it, but getting our hands on pick 1 and most likely 3 or 4 and having another selection in the first 20 will allow us to address deficiencies in our list. We shouldn't worry about any perception that other's have about us nor what our song says at this point in time. This is a once in a 20 years opportunity especially with the 2 new franchises taking all the kids from next year. Its all for the greater good and if we get emotionally connected to all the perceived negative media talk and public talk over what we do then we shouldn't be in a cut throat environment lest we offend someone and do something that's morally incorrect. If finding a loophole in your tax and claiming something you shouldn't is considered a business expense or a rule of business hten think of tanking a s a loophole in the system to get a return that will give us a higher dividend than if we did nothing. That is all I am saying.
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Well Hellenic Tiger 74 if you think tanking is okay then go to Carlton where you belong as I think its totally wrong. Stuff top draft picks. We usually pick up crap anyway.
I kwon that if I was in a fight I wouldn't want you on my side as you would be the one running from the battle, cause its easier to run than fight for what is yours.
This is what is wrong with the side its easier to lose than to fight or even put up a half a fight. We once had a good fighting spirit bnut now it looks like all we are after is draft picks. Stuff'em. Lets fight this out to the end of the season and have some pride in what we are.
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Well Hellenic Tiger 74 if you think tanking is okay then go to Carlton where you belong as I think its totally wrong. Stuff top draft picks. We usually pick up crap anyway.
I kwon that if I was in a fight I wouldn't want you on my side as you would be the one running from the battle, cause its easier to run than fight for what is yours.
This is what is wrong with the side its easier to lose than to fight or even put up a half a fight. We once had a good fighting spirit bnut now it looks like all we are after is draft picks. Stuff'em. Lets fight this out to the end of the season and have some pride in what we are.
Theres a lack of reality in your post. the reality is we need more class. the reality is we can get more class by tanking, the reality is if we dont tank none of us will see a flag before we all end up on the old age pension, the reality is our club will probably go down the tubes if we get no success over the next 5 years coz we cant afford to lose another generation of supporters, the reality is we have to tank to give ourselves a chance. thats the reality of it, and if we dont tank we are stupid.
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Ok mate its attitudes like these that keep the club where they are in the s***house for so long . You could not be further from the truth. I am a tiger through and through and in a fight if would be wise to have me on your side but rather than give you an insight into my characteristrics how about thinking outside the square for once in your life rather than taking an antequated stance and maybe just maybe when the dust settles you may be in a better position than you originally started. Oh and don't bother replying to this as we wouldn't want your unwaivering love and passion of the Richmond Football Club cloud your judgement to someone of my ilk who loves Carlton and backs down in a fight. Unprogressive thoughts by people like you is what is holding the club back. We've waisted 26 years whats another 11 weeks going to do. Think ppl think.
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I will agree to disagree with you and you with me. As this is all it will end up being, but on this subject only.
As there will be thing's that you write that I will more than likely agree with later down the track.
But as for this tanking crap I think and know I couldn't hold my head up and say I agree with it ever. No matter what the cost is.
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Interesting times ahead
no. you are the fool
They are not good friends
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Graeme Bond on 3aw (Richmond premiership player too) just before said we should tank if we lose this week. In fact he reckons it would be a popular decision if we came out now and said we're playing the kids and don't care if we don't win another game. Russell asked if Terry could avoid to tank without avoiding the stuff and Bondy said "no one will hate Terry if Richmond gets Natanui".
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Graeme Bond on 3aw (Richmond premiership player too) just before said we should tank if we lose this week. In fact he reckons it would be a popular decision if we came out now and said we're playing the kids and don't care if we don't win another game. Russell asked if Terry could avoid to tank without avoiding the stuff and Bondy said "no one will hate Terry if Richmond gets Natanui".
Graeme Bond is correct.
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Natanui
I'm in for the tank...as of this week.
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Natanui
I'm in for the tank...as of this week.
That makes two of us []())([] :thumbsup
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Natanui
I'm in for the tank...as of this week.
One player no matter how good he is will fix our problems
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its not about natanui per se. Its about getting the extra early pick getting picks 1 & 3 is alot better than 4 and 20
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its not about natanui per se. Its about getting the extra early pick getting picks 1 & 3 is alot better than 4 and 20
Ramps pal it is about him..
we not only get picks 1 and 3 but by picking up this fellow we gain a ruckman and another midfielder...cox like from what i here..
we havent had a descent ruckman since the general..
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Natanui
I'm in for the tank...as of this week.
One player no matter how good he is will fix our problems
Agree. I also think that a team that tanks doesn't deserve to be in the AFL.
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The RFC has a culture problem.
Todays comments by Wallace on Richo are disgraceful ( talk about blaming others).
At least he has a decent crack at things.
The tiges for a month were going ok , because they were having a red hot go, last 2 weeks have been terrible due to them not having crack. Coaches fault that they have fallen away.
I dont think we can afford to tank.. Thats means after the past 4 years we are no better off ???
Can tell you that 2 players in the first round will not fix our problems, you people are dreaming unfortunately. Reason being that apart from 2 or 3 players, our recruiting over the past 4 years has been disgraceful.
And our delistings and signing guys back again worse.
How on earth is Schulz still there, and who was the bright spark who resigned Tuck at the start of the year ::)
And dont get me started on Cam Howat, is he coming or going, oh dear. :lol
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Natanui
I'm in for the tank...as of this week.
One player no matter how good he is will fix our problems
Agree. I also think that a team that tanks doesn't deserve to be in the AFL.
its called list management pal and the pies did it as did the blues...
blues last year only got more noticed but teams have done it before..
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The RFC has a culture problem.
Todays comments by Wallace on Richo are disgraceful ( talk about blaming others).
At least he has a decent crack at things.
The tiges for a month were going ok , because they were having a red hot go, last 2 weeks have been terrible due to them not having crack. Coaches fault that they have fallen away.
I dont think we can afford to tank.. Thats means after the past 4 years we are no better off ???
Can tell you that 2 players in the first round will not fix our problems, you people are dreaming unfortunately. Reason being that apart from 2 or 3 players, our recruiting over the past 4 years has been disgraceful.
And our delistings and signing guys back again worse.
How on earth is Schulz still there, and who was the bright spark who resigned Tuck at the start of the year ::)
And dont get me started on Cam Howat, is he coming or going, oh dear. :lol
i only think it will work with a new coach and a new mindset.
so true what you said about schulz.
he will become the next pettifer and everyone in 4 years will say why didn't we offload when we had the chance.
now pathetic pettifer is worth nothing on the open market and neither will half of these players on our list who can't play...
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Natanui
I'm in for the tank...as of this week.
One player no matter how good he is will fix our problems
Agree. I also think that a team that tanks doesn't deserve to be in the AFL.
its called list management pal and the pies did it as did the blues...
blues last year only got more noticed but teams have done it before..
Exactly its called list management. How people can find loopholes in the tax system and think nothing of it when tax time comes around or be accepting of it yet when a club finds a loophole to better its list for the betterment of the club 2 or 3 years in advance its called piracy. Right now our future is more important than our present. Remember the club comes first in this instance.
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Jack to an extent is right with culture being an issue regardless of what players you have. Look at the Saints in 5 years ago. The whole footy world was agog and proclaiming them as the next big team with all the talent they had and that their premiership window was open, but we all know what can happen behind the scenes when ego's clash and common sense goes out the window and the traits that have haunted your clubs culture rear their ugly head. It affects everyone in the club from top to toe and things that were once bread and butter suddenly become difficult. 1 flag in 112 is testament to this.
What I am trying to say is we need to change elements of our culture down at the club and indoctrinate a winning and successful culture that intimidates the opposition rather than have other clubs dictate to us what we are and as a result taunt us accordingly.
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big story breaking our at punt road.
footy show coming up
hmmmm interesting????
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for me it comes down to the same old argument. The key question is it better to have the extra quality player or is it not. I firmly believe that our club would be better of in the longer term with the extra quality player.
jacko is correct that the drafts from 2004 have been buggered up, thats why we havent completed the first wave of the rebuild - its also another reason why we need the early picks now, to make up for mistakes over the past 3 years.
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I dont think we can afford to tank.. Thats means after the past 4 years we are no better off ???
We've gone from an ageing list with just a handful of young players to one where over half the list is 21 or under. On the ladder we are no better off but our list is. Even the Hawks were still a bottom 3 side 4-5 years after picking up Hodge, Mitchell, Ladson, Brown, Williams, Bateman, etc. Rebuilding lists takes time and our next coach will be the one who'll gain the rewards. Only the club panicking and self-destructing again through lack of patience will stuff it up.
Can tell you that 2 players in the first round will not fix our problems, you people are dreaming unfortunately.
So picking up two kids the quality of a Cotchin is worse than picking up one. Yep that makes sense ???.
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Can tell you that 2 players in the first round will not fix our problems, you people are dreaming unfortunately.
So picking up two kids the quality of a Cotchin is worse than picking up one. Yep that makes sense ???.
All I am saying is that it doesnt matter if you have 1 or 2 players in the first round, its not going to fix the problems at Punt Road. Where is Richard Tambling with his career ? I rest my case
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Can tell you that 2 players in the first round will not fix our problems, you people are dreaming unfortunately.
So picking up two kids the quality of a Cotchin is worse than picking up one. Yep that makes sense ???.
All I am saying is that it doesnt matter if you have 1 or 2 players in the first round, its not going to fix the problems at Punt Road. Where is Richard Tambling with his career ? I rest my case
Where is Cotchin at? I rest my case.
No it doesn't solve everything but it gives you far better odds at picking up the elite talent especially in last and this year's drafts and helps builds depth. Essentially you are replacing your last pick in the draft with a top 5 pick.
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You are only as good as your bottom 6 players
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if we add 2 quality players at the top, then dont the bottom 2 drop off... technically doesnt that make the list a better list.
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You might need to say that more slowly Ramps for those that don't get it lol.
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if we add 2 quality players at the top, then dont the bottom 2 drop off... technically doesnt that make the list a better list.
One syllable at a time :rollin
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You might need to say that more slowly Ramps for those that don't get it lol.
I apologise for my destruction of the english language. I will do my best not to assassinate the english language- capish!
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Agree we should play all the kids and take games on, whatever the result of that being I can live with.
No more of this possesion football and no more Tivs or Petts they are finished.
Bowden is on his last legs and must change his defensive general attitude and become more of a reflex back urself type otherwise ta ta also.
McMahon could be a luxury in a good team and that atm we are not.
ie: have the teammates to get it to him cause he wont go in and get it.
Wallace is a hard one, we should be doing better by now and there is still half a season to go.
We showed good signs and then we just turn everything upside down against the Swans, I really don't get it.
Anyway I will still go and Support the "Richmond football club" at every chance I get, cause it's in the blood :gotigers
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You are only as good as your bottom 6 players
Look at Coburg and Coburg ressies for how good our bottom 6 are. We just need to be patient and let nature run its course.