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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on June 12, 2008, 05:08:51 PM
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Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Luke McGuane, Graham Polak
HB: Jordan McMahon, Kelvin Moore, Daniel Jackson
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Matt White
HF: Mitch Morton, Jack Riewoldt, Richard Tambling
F: Adam Pattison, Nathan Brown, Trent Cotchin
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Brett Deledio, Nathan Foley
I/C (from): Dean Polo, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Chris Hyde, Joel Bowden, Alex Rance, Jay Schulz,Shane Edwards
In: Riewoldt, Rance, Oakley-Nicholls, Hyde, Jackson, Polo, Morton
Out: Will Thursfield (hamstring), Jake King (hamstring), Greg Tivendale, Kayne Pettifer
New: Alex Rance (Swan Districts)
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we may actually win now that king has a "hammy" lol. more like he has been dropped
what does cleve have to do to be named
and whats with hyde even being in the squad!!!!!!
and i would not drop edwards, i know he has been quiet but the kid has got the x factor
fingers crossed polo and jon play, they deserve it
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Drop Bowden, Schulz and Hyde from the bench
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Drop Bowden, Schulz and Hyde from the bench
Exactly my thoughts entirely with an extended bennch Bowden Schulz and Hyde were still a chance to get picked. So much for Terry's theory of dropping Tivvas and replacing Hyde and vice versa as it has been going all season. :help
Play the kids and play them every week. Blokes like Bowden Tivvas Hyde Pettifer should already have played their last games for Richmond.
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i think joel is safe
I/C (from): Dean Polo, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Chris Hyde, Joel Bowden, Alex Rance, Jay Schulz,Shane Edwards
i think polo, jon, bowden, rance will be the bench
out jay, hyde and edwards, but edwards will be back soon
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Jack, Jacko and Morton are named in the starting 18 so that leaves one to come in from Rance, Oakley-Nicholls, Hyde and Polo if there are no more than 4 outs.
Surely history won't repeat and Hyde comes in as Tivs goes out :P. Good to see Tivs and Petts have got the stuff. They've played their last game (unless they both get a farewell appearance in round 22).
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Bench will be
Bowden (if they were going to drop him they would have done the same as with tiv and petts and say so)
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Lets hope one of the questions is not Hyde. Its so hard to pick which of the others will play as I have no idea what the match plan will be.
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MT, do you really think Petts has played his last game?
I agree that I think Tivvers card is now marked. But I don't know about Petts. Only 26. They may play him at the end of the year to give him some currency for trade week.
Glad to see 3 "young" kids come on. I am hoping either Polo or JON gets the 4th spot.
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Bench will be
Bowden (if they were going to drop him they would have done the same as with tiv and petts and say so)
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Lets hope one of the questions is not Hyde. Its so hard to pick which of the others will play as I have no idea what the match plan will be.
Has to be Rance give the kid a debut.
Oakley Nicholls as he is still a kid and he has shown good form at Coburg. At least Terry is rewarding a kid with form at Coburg.
Polo we just need a hard type in the team full stop.
Hyde forget it should not be considered for the rest of the year regardless of Coburg form.
Edwards just needs to be dropped to Coburg to refocus and find abit of the footy nothing more
Schulz needs to be dropped also.
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In patches Schulz has been okay this year but I feel he is not doing anywhere near enough Fluffy. He was on Jericho in the 3rd quarter last week when he kicked 3 goals and I think he will be scapegoated for that.
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In patches Schulz has been okay this year but I feel he is not doing anywhere near enough Fluffy. He was on Jericho in the 3rd quarter last week when he kicked 3 goals and I think he will be scapegoated for that.
Sorry Hellenic, I removed my post as I realized I had some major errors in it.
For everybody else Hellenic was relpying to my feeling that Schulz has been ok, he is not going mad and making double posts.
Still think Schulz had done enough to keep his spot.
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Well an axe has been swung :rollin :rollin
Polo & JON must play because their form warrants their selection
Very good to see Morton back.
People talk about the Tiv for Hyde swap - ditto Morton for Petts ;D
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No dramas Fluffy :thumbsup
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At least with the Morton replacing Petts in the side it has happened rd 4 rd 9 and again this week and we are at least replacing Pettifer with someone who has a tendency to kick a few goals but help keep the ball in the fwd zone with 2nd and 3rd efforts. Something Petts has been crucified for on this forum.
The Tiv and Hyde charade is a mere waste of time with two blokes who won't add much value to the team going forward long term.
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King unfortunately has become a liability.
His errors cancel out his pros - of late.
After an inspiring start to 08,he needs to re calibrate.
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King unfortunately has become a liability.
His errors cancel out his pros - of late.
After an inspiring start to 08,he needs to re calibrate.
I have watched King up close and him simply will not re calibrate. He was playing suburbian football for a reason only 2-3 years ago. Its great that he is a nutter, but he lacks football smarts.
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MT, do you really think Petts has played his last game?
I agree that I think Tivvers card is now marked. But I don't know about Petts. Only 26. They may play him at the end of the year to give him some currency for trade week.
For Richmond yes I do. Two years ago there was still time on his side to save his career but at 26 and as a midsized senior player what you see if what you'll get. There's no further improvement in him after 8 years in the system and in fact he's gone backwards this year as the game has changed to one that requires high levels of defensive pressure from forwards which he struggles at or he simply refuses to do. Last week he came off the bench in the 3rd quarter and stayed 30m forward side of a ball up on the wing waiting to receive the easy pill even though we were getting pumped at the stoppages and needed numbers at the fall of the ball. Of course his opponent was at the contest and the Crows cleared it and goaled. You can't hold onto players for 8 years with no team skills.
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yes MT and if i recall you were one of the people last year to say Petts was a better footballer than Leon Davis..
Petts is a pathetic selfish footballer who should have been offloaded 2 years ago.
we will make the same mistake with schulz, Quentin and probably JON, although i still think he has one chance left.
he should have been showed the door years ago that dud schulz
ooh schulz what a great year he is having...could be dropped this week, was dropped 2 weeks ago..
yep he is on the up aint he..give me a break..
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Melbourne ... for those interested
B: James McDonald, Colin Garland, Matthew Warnock
HB: Brad Green, Paul Wheatley, Cameron Bruce
C: Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean, Lynden Dunn
HF: Jace Bode, James Frawley, Clint Bartram
F: Paul Johnson, Brad Miller, Austin Wonaeamirri
Foll: Jeff White, Chris Johnson, Nathan Jones
I/C (from): Aaron Davey, Mark Jamar, Matthew Bate, Cale Morton, Matthew Whelan, Adem Yze, Nathan Carroll
In: Davey, Frawley, Jamar, C Johnson, Carroll, Whelan
Out: Jared Rivers (groin), Brent Moloney (shoulder), Daniel Bell
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Morton on Morton perhaps ;D
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Melbourne ... for those interested
B: James McDonald, Colin Garland, Matthew Warnock
HB: Brad Green, Paul Wheatley, Cameron Bruce
C: Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean, Lynden Dunn
HF: Jace Bode, James Frawley, Clint Bartram
F: Paul Johnson, Brad Miller, Austin Wonaeamirri
Foll: Jeff White, Chris Johnson, Nathan Jones
I/C (from): Aaron Davey, Mark Jamar, Matthew Bate, Cale Morton, Matthew Whelan, Adem Yze, Nathan Carroll
In: Davey, Frawley, Jamar, C Johnson, Carroll, Whelan
Out: Jared Rivers (groin), Brent Moloney (shoulder), Daniel Bell
Rubbish side.
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King unfortunately has become a liability.
His errors cancel out his pros - of late.
After an inspiring start to 08,he needs to re calibrate.
i think you have some issues there mate.
u say kingy has become a liability, well what the stuff do you think Mcmahon has become then?
If kingy has been dropped ahead of Mcmahon well thats just fu.cked
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I have watched King up close and him simply will not re calibrate. He was playing suburbian football for a reason only 2-3 years ago. Its great that he is a nutter, but he lacks football smarts.
He is still playing suburban footy at Richmond.
But we some more guys to have his suburban footy heart and mongrel.
Kingy plays like a Tiger.
Edited to correct quote
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Melbourne ... for those interested
B: James McDonald, Colin Garland, Matthew Warnock
HB: Brad Green, Paul Wheatley, Cameron Bruce
C: Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean, Lynden Dunn
HF: Jace Bode, James Frawley, Clint Bartram
F: Paul Johnson, Brad Miller, Austin Wonaeamirri
Foll: Jeff White, Chris Johnson, Nathan Jones
I/C (from): Aaron Davey, Mark Jamar, Matthew Bate, Cale Morton, Matthew Whelan, Adem Yze, Nathan Carroll
In: Davey, Frawley, Jamar, C Johnson, Carroll, Whelan
Out: Jared Rivers (groin), Brent Moloney (shoulder), Daniel Bell
Rubbish side.
May give us a footy lesson on Sunday. Bring on the tank.
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I'm very pleased with the Ins and Outs this game.
King and Thursty are out through injury which is a shame but Petts and Tiv are definite outs on form/team dynamics which is an extremely welcomed decision. I realize it is unlikely to transpire this week but by having Bowden named on the bench, the match committee is signalling Joel's demise also.
I think we are and will be a much better team when these three have been premanently moved on.
My other 'targets' are-
Hyde - good average player but offers nothing that any of our rising youth don't already
Tucky - slow, lacking in skills but still has strength we need around stoppages,
McMahon - outside player who only looks good when he is feed and pressure free
Polak - one dimensional player with questionable desposal and defensive skills & pace.
Conversely including players such as Rance, Morton, Riewoldt and Polo to the extended bench is a great sign for the selectors. Now if they could just include all of these 'future' players in our team I would be very happy.
Good signs for the rest of the year and the future in general IMO! :clapping
Stripes
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disappointing to see that Rance, Polo, didnt make the squad.
he hyde and tivva door revolves once again. :banghead
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Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Luke McGuane, Graham Polak
HB: Jordan McMahon, Kelvin Moore, Daniel Jackson
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Matt White
HF: Mitch Morton, Jack Riewoldt, Richard Tambling
F: Adam Pattison, Nathan Brown, Trent Cotchin
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Brett Deledio, Nathan Foley
I/C: Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Chris Hyde, Joel Bowden, Jay Schulz
EMG: Dean Polo, Alex Rance, Shane Edwards
In: Riewoldt, Oakley-Nicholls, Hyde, Jackson, Morton
Out: Will Thursfield (hamstring), Jake King (hamstring), Greg Tivendale, Kayne Pettifer, Shane Edwards
Melbourne
B: James McDonald, Colin Garland, Matthew Warnock
HB: Brad Green, Paul Wheatley, Cameron Bruce
C: Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean, Lynden Dunn
HF: Jace Bode, James Frawley, Clint Bartram
F: Paul Johnson, Brad Miller, Austin Wonaeamirri
Foll: Jeff White, Chris Johnson, Nathan Jones
I/C: Aaron Davey, Adem Yze, Matthew Bate, Cale Morton
EMG: Nathan Carroll, Mark Jamar, Matthew Whelan
In: Davey, Frawley, C. Johnson
Out: Jared Rivers (groin), Brent Moloney (shoulder), Daniel Bell
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Rogerd3, that why we arent any good,why wouldnt you give Rance and Or Polo a game, nothing to lose.
Terry now coaching for his career one think, probably $600,000 reasons as well.
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Hyde should not be playing, i suppose he is only in to play a run with role. Thing that i find strange is that Polo has also been doing this at Coburg and playing very good footy. Surely the better long term option is to play Polo, his form also warrants it.
JON is someone who i havent been a big fan of, in saying that he form has been very solid over the the last few games at Coburg and a few small things over the last month have given me a little more respect for him. Last weeks game was by far the best i have seen from him.
Morton is a much better option than Pettiger :thumbsup
Jack :thumbsup
Jackson i am still not sure on either. Great kid with determination and grunt, just not sure he is up to AFL though.
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Training form seems to have decided the last spots.
Sadly it looks like Deano cost himself a spot at training. Make a few too many skill errors and was told by Plough he needed to lift his skills. In one case he took a mark just outside 50 then played on when he shouldn't have isolating himself and then dished a poor handball under pressure. Conversely Hyde trained very well, getting a heap of footy running the lines and hitting targets inside 50 (if only he'd show this during an actual game). That's the only explanation I can give for the Hyde-Tivs turnstile continuing this week and Polo missing out :P.
Jack cut up Rance on the lead.
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Garbage keeping Bowden and once again Tivs out Hyde in the tradition of 2008 continues. You would think it would be more beneficial for the club long term going forward to play the kids instead the coach has put himself his pride his value and his self preservation first and plays the duds who may not fail on Sunday against the weaker teams but will inevitably be found out when we play the stronger ones.
Would rather watch us get flogged by a better side with the kids in there than watch us get flogged with the old buggers in there like the last two weeks. Garbage..........
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Garbage keeping Bowden and once again Tivs out Hyde in the tradition of 2008 continues. You would think it would be more beneficial for the club long term going forward to play the kids instead the coach has put himself his pride his value and his self preservation first and plays the duds who may not fail on Sunday against the weaker teams but will inevitably be found out when we play the stronger ones.
Would rather watch us get flogged by a better side with the kids in there than watch us get flogged with the old buggers in there like the last two weeks. Garbage..........
i have never read a reply i agree with more than i do this one...
so true mate.
TW is coaching for TW not the RFC
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Garbage keeping Bowden and once again Tivs out Hyde in the tradition of 2008 continues. You would think it would be more beneficial for the club long term going forward to play the kids instead the coach has put himself his pride his value and his self preservation first and plays the duds who may not fail on Sunday against the weaker teams but will inevitably be found out when we play the stronger ones.
Would rather watch us get flogged by a better side with the kids in there than watch us get flogged with the old buggers in there like the last two weeks. Garbage..........
i have never read a reply i agree with more than i do this one...
so true mate.
TW is coaching for TW not the RFC
Hang-on, so what it Hyde doesn't play ?
You do realise that he is named as part of a 7-man interchange bench which is ubject to 3 exclusions.
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Garbage keeping Bowden and once again Tivs out Hyde in the tradition of 2008 continues. You would think it would be more beneficial for the club long term going forward to play the kids instead the coach has put himself his pride his value and his self preservation first and plays the duds who may not fail on Sunday against the weaker teams but will inevitably be found out when we play the stronger ones.
Would rather watch us get flogged by a better side with the kids in there than watch us get flogged with the old buggers in there like the last two weeks. Garbage..........
i have never read a reply i agree with more than i do this one...
so true mate.
TW is coaching for TW not the RFC
Hang-on, so what it Hyde doesn't play ?
You do realise that he is named as part of a 7-man interchange bench which is ubject to 3 exclusions.
hyde should not even be on a 14 man interchange bench, let alone a 7 man bench..
when is he going to play the fcukin kids all the time. he is a complete fu.khead TW.
where the good coaches run players into form, TW runs players out of form just like he did when he played hyde on the brownlow medalist in sydney....hahaha
i was there to witness it with my own eyes. possibly the biggest joke ive seen by any coach since the geesh
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Garbage keeping Bowden and once again Tivs out Hyde in the tradition of 2008 continues. You would think it would be more beneficial for the club long term going forward to play the kids instead the coach has put himself his pride his value and his self preservation first and plays the duds who may not fail on Sunday against the weaker teams but will inevitably be found out when we play the stronger ones.
Would rather watch us get flogged by a better side with the kids in there than watch us get flogged with the old buggers in there like the last two weeks. Garbage..........
i have never read a reply i agree with more than i do this one...
so true mate.
TW is coaching for TW not the RFC
Hang-on, so what it Hyde doesn't play ?
You do realise that he is named as part of a 7-man interchange bench which is ubject to 3 exclusions.
The final squad was quoted on the last page of the thread and Hyde is in
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Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Luke McGuane, Graham Polak
HB: Jordan McMahon, Kelvin Moore, Daniel Jackson
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Matt White
HF: Mitch Morton, Jack Riewoldt, Richard Tambling
F: Adam Pattison, Nathan Brown, Trent Cotchin
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Brett Deledio, Nathan Foley
I/C: Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Chris Hyde, Joel Bowden, Jay Schulz
EMG: Dean Polo, Alex Rance, Shane Edwards
In: Riewoldt, Oakley-Nicholls, Hyde, Jackson, Morton
Out: Will Thursfield (hamstring), Jake King (hamstring), Greg Tivendale, Kayne Pettifer, Shane Edwards
Not happy with Hyde. Thought Polo should have got tha spot.
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That is fu.cked it really is..
no rance but hyde gets another go..
TW's match up for hyde this week..
he will be tagging jeff white out of the square...
what a joke...
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Hyde IS a mindboggling selection, particularly with no Moloney in the D's side. Who is left to tag ? Brock ?
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Before we all jump the gun ( myself included)
I suggest we all just calm down a little and remember TW is the official spin king.
I personally dont think that the final side that has been selected will be th 22 that run out Sundy afternoon.
There will be at least 1 last minute change ( i hope) (http://www.xbox360leagues.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/fingers_crossed.gif)
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OK everyone just off the grapevine from Tassie.
Edwards is there.
Rance is there.
Polo has been left in Melbourne.
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OK everyone just off the grapevine from Tassie.
Edwards is there.
Rance is there.
Polo has been left in Melbourne.
The game doesn't start until 2:30 so maybe he just hasn't been out there yet. :-\
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No. this is confirmed i know someone involved with Tassie F.C.
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No. this is confirmed i know someone involved with Tassie F.C.
No worries. Good work. :thumbsup
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Polo has been left in Melbourne.
Could be just precautionary just in case someone pulls out of the side late tomorrow. Having said that I would prefer Polo in instead of Hyde.
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Looking forward to seeing how jon goes the next couple of years - I can see something there.
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Looking forward to seeing how jon goes the next couple of years - I can see something there.
yeah well i dont share your optimism.
i see a very good vfl player, thats it.
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Looking forward to seeing how jon goes the next couple of years - I can see something there.
yeah well i dont share your optimism.
i see a very good vfl player, thats it.
OT but relevant for the comment "good VFL player," Tom Roach is still dominating the for North Ballarat. :rollin
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Looking forward to seeing how jon goes the next couple of years - I can see something there.
yeah well i dont share your optimism.
i see a very good vfl player, thats it.
Yeah, I will also be very interested in watching JON today. He is an unknown quantity that has the potential to make us all go WOW or conversely, what were we thinking.
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I saw what I think he has, just get the too much thinking out of his decisions and we have a player.
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I only noticed JON a few times but he did okay for his first game back in the seniors. The real test for him will be in games where the pressure is fully on and there's less time and space.
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I only noticed JON a few times but he did okay for his first game back in the seniors. The real test for him will be in games where the pressure is fully on and there's less time and space.
Watch the tape ;D
Seriously, perhaps it is a good thing that you didn't notice him - means there was no clangers ;) and people going like this :scream