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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: harry bosch on July 31, 2008, 01:35:26 AM
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http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/tiger-turmoil-on-free-speech/2008/07/30/1217097331636.html
Caroline Wilson and Patrick Bartley | July 31, 2008
RICHMOND director Tony Free has been hauled over the coals for breaking with club protocol and being interviewed on Melbourne radio following the Greg Miller sacking and has been warned to stop destabilising the Tigers' football department.
President Gary March confirmed last night that he had strongly reprimanded Free for speaking publicly about club and its politics and agreed Free had been "naive and over-eager" in attacking the job of examining Terry Wallace and his assistant coaches.
But March denied that Free would be stepping down as a board member, despite suggestions yesterday that the former Richmond skipper had irretrievably damaged his relationship with the Tigers' coaching staff and would be departing as a director after joining the board last month.
"I won't be moving him off the board," March told The Age last night. "We as a board are not moving Tony on. Would he step down? I wouldn't think so. I think he's a bit sheepish at the moment and I think he realises he's overstepped the mark on a couple of occasions but it's our job to educate him."
Free, who sat in the coach's box last Saturday night during the Richmond-Brisbane Lions game at the coach's invitation, has upset staff in the football department by his confrontational interviewing process and by his gung-ho approach to reviewing the club's football operation. He gave an interview to radio station SEN on Tuesday against the club's wishes.
Free has held talks with a number of assistant coaches at other clubs, along with recently retired Nathan Buckley, and some of his comments about Richmond are understood to have filtered back to Wallace's team.
March, who has insisted there was never any intention to clean out Wallace's coaching panel, admitted Free had ruffled feathers since replacing Miller on the board. "Tony's gone into it like he's played footy," said March. "With a bit of whiteline fever.
"That eagerness has come out as though we are trying to make changes. Tony's got no authority to make change. He's not the director of football. He's a Richmond Football Club director. At the moment he's not even a part of our football sub-committee although that will happen."
March also denied allegations Free had been identified as "Tiger Tony", an outspoken supporter on the Richmond website. Miller investigated whether or not Free had been contributing to the site and questioned him over the matter but Free vehemently denied it and March has accepted his denial.
March added that the board had not given Free enough direction.
"I take some responsibility for this," said March. "We never carried out a full board induction with him and that will now happen. Tony has run off trying to learn about footy again and I've tried to explain he needs to step back and do less and observe more.
"In fairness to him most of us have been on boards before and we need to help him with some guidance."
March has spoken this week with Wallace, Brian Royal, David King, Jade Rawlings and Craig McCrae regarding the speculation about coaching jobs and assured them suggestions they would be removed were inaccurate.
Of Free's relationship with Wallace's assistants, March said: "I think he's got a bit of work to do there … Has Tony acted naively? Yes, he has."
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I'm glad March has nipped this in the bud, but seriously we already look like idiots, let's just admit we made a mistake in appointing Free and get someone with the proper credentials.
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What an utter shambles :banghead :banghead :banghead.
Once again proving all this "Richmond people" talk is just sentimental crap ::) and board members who are foolish enough to listen to the old backroom boys are idiots. Like those morons know anything about running a successful football club ::).
Surely Freezer is now dead man walking. He's a loose cannon and should never have been put on the board in the first place as he is clearly out of his depth. Professional organisations don't have L-platers deciding their future ::). Free should do the right thing and hand in his resignation today pronto.
If March wants Free to stay on then March should go to!
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It couldn't get any worse on a PR level at the moment, MT
Nothing wrong with recruiting and changing your mix if it's not working, but you do it in a professional way, advising all people before you go to the media and presenting a united front behind your decisions.
Having someone make media comments when they admit they weren't a part of the process from the beginning, answered questions by saying you should ask someone else.
That interview was a role for the President and no-one else IMO.
PS: What did March mean by he's overstepped the mark on a "couple" of occasions? So there have been other incidents?
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Who is too blame here ? blame starts at the top .Gary March and Steve Wright.
And funny how the assistants are feeling uncomfortable, protecting there jobs no doubt. :lol
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Who is too blame here ? blame starts at the top .Gary March and Steve Wright.
And funny how the assistants are feeling uncomfortable, protecting there jobs no doubt. :lol
I guess if we make the finals they would be wondering, like others, where all this talk is coming from and why it's out there.
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with ANY business, all staff are put through an induction program which covers these areas.
RFC did have a confidentality agreement in place, but this seems to have disappeared over the years.
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its funny how all of a sudden people are saying the tigers are in trouble because of tony free.
last year most supporters couldnt wait to place the noose around wallace and miller.
and most of this year as well ,
its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
l would suspect that steve wright also had a hand in millers removal ,maybe the tigers are using tony free as a scapegoat for some personal removal.
whatever the case is some deadwood needs to be removed if wallace cant handle new assistants maybe he should go.
you dont hear much from other clubs when they make changes ,lve got a feeling that this will benefit the club in the future, and will remove people who think they can do as they please wallace being one of them .
greg miller should have confronted march when he heard about his sacking instead of trying to turn it into a circus .
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
all in all l think people are over reacting ,l see this opportunity is a chance for us to get better people in the club and take us to the top.
our financial position is really good and now we can finally get decent staff in ,with richmond success as there prime objective not there pockets or egos .
as for tony free speaking in an interview l dont think there would be a problem any other time, its just the timing when the tigers are trying to play low key.
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Our football club looks like an unorganised brothel at the moment. Everyone should pull there heads in and just shut up.
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its funny how all of a sudden people are saying the tigers are in trouble because of tony free.
last year most supporters couldnt wait to place the noose around wallace and miller.
and most of this year as well ,
its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
l would suspect that steve wright also had a hand in millers removal ,maybe the tigers are using tony free as a scapegoat for some personal removal.
whatever the case is some deadwood needs to be removed if wallace cant handle new assistants maybe he should go.
you dont hear much from other clubs when they make changes ,lve got a feeling that this will benefit the club in the future, and will remove people who think they can do as they please wallace being one of them .
greg miller should have confronted march when he heard about his sacking instead of trying to turn it into a circus .
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
all in all l think people are over reacting ,l see this opportunity is a chance for us to get better people in the club and take us to the top.
our financial position is really good and now we can finally get decent staff in ,with richmond success as there prime objective not there pockets or egos .
as for tony free speaking in an interview l dont think there would be a problem any other time, its just the timing when the tigers are trying to play low key.
Are you Tony Free?
:shh
:rollin
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its funny how all of a sudden people are saying the tigers are in trouble because of tony free.
last year most supporters couldnt wait to place the noose around wallace and miller.
and most of this year as well ,
its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
l would suspect that steve wright also had a hand in millers removal ,maybe the tigers are using tony free as a scapegoat for some personal removal.
whatever the case is some deadwood needs to be removed if wallace cant handle new assistants maybe he should go.
you dont hear much from other clubs when they make changes ,lve got a feeling that this will benefit the club in the future, and will remove people who think they can do as they please wallace being one of them .
greg miller should have confronted march when he heard about his sacking instead of trying to turn it into a circus .
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
all in all l think people are over reacting ,l see this opportunity is a chance for us to get better people in the club and take us to the top.
our financial position is really good and now we can finally get decent staff in ,with richmond success as there prime objective not there pockets or egos .
as for tony free speaking in an interview l dont think there would be a problem any other time, its just the timing when the tigers are trying to play low key.
The guy is in a Director's role, not a stuffing media spokesman. Board members should be seen but not heard imo, you dont see the other two shooting their mouth off at ANY time. He needs to keep his head down, STFU, and do his job for the sake of himself and our club. :banghead
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Our football club looks like an unorganised brothel at the moment. Everyone should pull there heads in and just shut up.
lolol yeah it is abit but l think the media has jumped all over us .
hopefully fevola keeps up with his antics and they head over to carltank .
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its funny how all of a sudden people are saying the tigers are in trouble because of tony free.
last year most supporters couldnt wait to place the noose around wallace and miller.
and most of this year as well ,
its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
l would suspect that steve wright also had a hand in millers removal ,maybe the tigers are using tony free as a scapegoat for some personal removal.
whatever the case is some deadwood needs to be removed if wallace cant handle new assistants maybe he should go.
you dont hear much from other clubs when they make changes ,lve got a feeling that this will benefit the club in the future, and will remove people who think they can do as they please wallace being one of them .
greg miller should have confronted march when he heard about his sacking instead of trying to turn it into a circus .
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
all in all l think people are over reacting ,l see this opportunity is a chance for us to get better people in the club and take us to the top.
our financial position is really good and now we can finally get decent staff in ,with richmond success as there prime objective not there pockets or egos .
as for tony free speaking in an interview l dont think there would be a problem any other time, its just the timing when the tigers are trying to play low key.
Are you Tony Free?
:shh
:rollin
no,what gives you that idea?
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What an utter shambles :banghead :banghead :banghead.
Once again proving all this "Richmond people" talk is just sentimental crap ::) and board members who are foolish enough to listen to the old backroom boys are idiots. Like those morons know anything about running a successful football club ::).
Surely Freezer is now dead man walking. He's a loose cannon and should never have been put on the board in the first place as he is clearly out of his depth. Professional organisations don't have L-platers deciding their future ::). Free should do the right thing and hand in his resignation today pronto.
If March wants Free to stay on then March should go to!
well said mate.
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Not sure why anyone is bringing Steven Wright into all this, this is a board matter
The board had the football sub-committee which makes decisions on the football department, Tony Free is a board member and as such isn't responsible to Wright.
Not Wrights responsibility to be making a decision on Miller either, he's a business man, not a football expert
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Not sure why anyone is bringing Steven Wright into all this, this is a board matter
The board had the football sub-committee which makes decisions on the football department, Tony Free is a board member and as such isn't responsible to Wright.
Not Wrights responsibility to be making a decision on Miller either, he's a business man, not a football expert
infamy wright was millers boss of some sorts although miller was sort of wrights boss ,confusing YEAH.
what a conflict of interest having miller on the board ,where he is nearly untouchable .
finally hes off the board wright is his boss ,and bang hes gone .
alot of people say having former tigers around as being negative ,but millers position was negative.
he had too much control and obviously wasnt doing his job properly ,so when the chance came up he went .
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its funny how all of a sudden people are saying the tigers are in trouble because of tony free.
last year most supporters couldnt wait to place the noose around wallace and miller.
and most of this year as well ,
its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
l would suspect that steve wright also had a hand in millers removal ,maybe the tigers are using tony free as a scapegoat for some personal removal.
whatever the case is some deadwood needs to be removed if wallace cant handle new assistants maybe he should go.
you dont hear much from other clubs when they make changes ,lve got a feeling that this will benefit the club in the future, and will remove people who think they can do as they please wallace being one of them .
greg miller should have confronted march when he heard about his sacking instead of trying to turn it into a circus .
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
all in all l think people are over reacting ,l see this opportunity is a chance for us to get better people in the club and take us to the top.
our financial position is really good and now we can finally get decent staff in ,with richmond success as there prime objective not there pockets or egos .
as for tony free speaking in an interview l dont think there would be a problem any other time, its just the timing when the tigers are trying to play low key.
I think you are twisting the situation here to somehow be TW's fault?!? ??? Tony Free is the problem here plain and simple. He is is the one who broke confidentiality, who went to the media against the clubs wishes and spoke about an inhouse issue that he knew very little about. Ultimately that was both unwise to his own position and damaging to the stability of the club.
The club is reeling from the sacking of a respected and influencial member of our administration. A leader who worked tirelessly to establish the groundings of future success for our club through player recruiting and coaching/administration appointments. Now perhaps he has done as much as he could do and the timing was right for him to move on but the whole manner in which it has been handled it extremely disappointing. This is particularly upsetting considering the positive position we find ourselves on field for the first time in years.
I am starting to believe now that Miller was moved on because of board politics rather than through any vision, shakeup or effort to bring in new ideas. It just reaks of petty squabbling and power plays that have nothing to do with trying to create future success in the club and everything to do with personal agendas.
Tony Free reminds me a young leader at work who is insecure and tries to force people to respect him and his ideas through aggression. This just does not work. He should have used the invitation into the coaches box to learn and understand how things work and sit with the panel. Tony should have attempted to establish trust and empathy with the coaches so then later, when he has had time to pinpoint any areas for future improvements, he can approach TW to work with him to initiate changes or at least give the coaches some shared ownership of the process. This way any changes are made collectively, with everyone informed and when he speaks to the board to make recommendation he has been transparent to everyone which caused far less resentment for all involved.
Instead now all the coaches despise the man and he will struggle to work with them or the players in the future. This makes it very hard for him to have any input or influence in the future.
I think he will not be around for very long. We need smart operators who can work with people rather than try and make misinformed whole-sale changes.
Stripes
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Free has held talks with a number of assistant coaches at other clubs, along with recently retired Nathan Buckley, and some of his comments about Richmond are understood to have filtered back to Wallace's team.
Well, at least I think we have found our leak. Get rid of him before he causes any more problems. >:(
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its funny how all of a sudden people are saying the tigers are in trouble because of tony free.
last year most supporters couldnt wait to place the noose around wallace and miller.
and most of this year as well ,
its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
l would suspect that steve wright also had a hand in millers removal ,maybe the tigers are using tony free as a scapegoat for some personal removal.
whatever the case is some deadwood needs to be removed if wallace cant handle new assistants maybe he should go.
you dont hear much from other clubs when they make changes ,lve got a feeling that this will benefit the club in the future, and will remove people who think they can do as they please wallace being one of them .
greg miller should have confronted march when he heard about his sacking instead of trying to turn it into a circus .
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
all in all l think people are over reacting ,l see this opportunity is a chance for us to get better people in the club and take us to the top.
our financial position is really good and now we can finally get decent staff in ,with richmond success as there prime objective not there pockets or egos .
as for tony free speaking in an interview l dont think there would be a problem any other time, its just the timing when the tigers are trying to play low key.
I think you are twisting the situation here to somehow be TW's fault?!? ??? Tony Free is the problem here plain and simple. He is is the one who broke confidentiality, who went to the media against the clubs wishes and spoke about an inhouse issue that he knew very little about. Ultimately that was both unwise to his own position and damaging to the stability of the club.
The club is reeling from the sacking of a respected and influencial member of our administration. A leader who worked tirelessly to establish the groundings of future success for our club through player recruiting and coaching/administration appointments. Now perhaps he has done as much as he could do and the timing was right for him to move on but the whole manner in which it has been handled it extremely disappointing. This is particularly upsetting considering the positive position we find ourselves on field for the first time in years.
I am starting to believe now that Miller was moved on because of board politics rather than through any vision, shakeup or effort to bring in new ideas. It just reaks of petty squabbling and power plays that have nothing to do with trying to create future success in the club and everything to do with personal agendas.
Tony Free reminds me a young leader at work who is insecure and tries to force people to respect him and his ideas through aggression. This just does not work. He should have used the invitation into the coaches box to learn and understand how things work and sit with the panel. Tony should have attempted to establish trust and empathy with the coaches so then later, when he has had time to pinpoint any areas for future improvements, he can approach TW to work with him to initiate changes or at least give the coaches some shared ownership of the process. This way any changes are made collectively, with everyone informed and when he speaks to the board to make recommendation he has been transparent to everyone which caused far less resentment for all involved.
Instead now all the coaches despise the man and he will struggle to work with them or the players in the future. This makes it very hard for him to have any input or influence in the future.
I think he will not be around for very long. We need smart operators who can work with people rather than try and make misinformed whole-sale changes.
Stripes
you should write scripts for the bold and the beautiful or one of those daytime soaps .
it is obvious that the club wants to change a few positions ,so be it .
other clubs do it ,whats the problem.
the timing is the grey area here ,but they have had this planned for a while before free even joined the board .
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I'm guessing you didn't even read what I wrote.
I don't ming hiring new assistant coaches but the many in which Tony conducted his 'review' was arrogant and childish. You need to learn before you can teach, and you need to know how the coaches work collectively and individually before he can assume to make judgments on them. If the coaches are guared around you how will you ever see how they operate?
My guess is that Tony wants to come in as a savour of the club, hire a big name assistant coach that everyone will herald as a 'masterstroke' without knowing whether they can work with the current coaches or how the person will best be used. If Tony wants to bring in a new assistant then he first has to consult with the coaches to see if and how they could be utilized.
If you want to appointment to be successful then how about involving the people who will be working with them. Pretty simple isn't it..... :o
Stripes
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you should write scripts for the bold and the beautiful or one of those daytime soaps .
it is obvious that the club wants to change a few positions ,so be it .
other clubs do it ,whats the problem.
the timing is the grey area here ,but they have had this planned for a while before free even joined the board .
Timing is everything pal.
learn it.
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My guess is that Tony wants to come in as a savour of the club, hire a big name assistant coach that everyone will herald as a 'masterstroke' without knowing whether they can work with the current coaches or how the person will best be used. If Tony wants to bring in a new assistant then he first has to consult with the coaches to see if and how they could be utilized.
Scary thing is, if T-a-T was Free then he was pretty open on wanting to get Sheedy
Getting in a younger and more contemporary skill set my ass
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Tony's a Tiger has returned to apologise and say he's not Tony Free :whistle
http://yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=184824&postcount=1
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Why is everyone blaming Tony Free for Millers sacking?
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Tony's a Tiger has returned to apologise and say he's not Tony Free :whistle
http://yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=184824&postcount=1
I never followed this season in the internet forums.
All the same, strange that an apology comes now ??????? :whistle
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Tony's a Tiger has returned to apologise and say he's not Tony Free :whistle
http://yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=184824&postcount=1
yeh right :wallywink
Just what we need, - a pickled has been that uses internet forums making calls on behalf of the club... :banghead
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KB today spoke very highly about Free, and said we are and will be a better club with Free on the board. Rckons Free is a super bloke, tells it as it is, a great leader, and very intelligent.
Time will tell, i hope Kb is right
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KB today spoke very highly about Free, and said we are and will be a better club with Free on the board. Rckons Free is a super bloke, tells it as it is, a great leader, and very intelligent.
Time will tell, i hope Kb is right
Wonder how KB will feel if we appoint Cameron Schwab.
Wasn't he never coming back to the club until he was dead or something lol
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KB today spoke very highly about Free, and said we are and will be a better club with Free on the board. Rckons Free is a super bloke, tells it as it is, a great leader, and very intelligent.
Time will tell, i hope Kb is right
KB sulked for 25 years.....
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KB sulked for 25 years.....
I do agree with you on that, in fact I've been critical of KB's quarter of a century long sook
Having said that, I'd still rather KB back at the club even as a token gesture than Schwab in any official capacity
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Why is everyone blaming Tony Free for Millers sacking?
I think it's all getting caught up in the same pile of doggy-doo. Free probably wasn't responsible for the sacking but it appears from things coming out that he was guilty of flapping his jaw and part of that flapping was letting slip that Miller was on the way out. Media hears, Miller hears, suddenly the end of year "thanks for coming" is forced on the club immediately. From there it just spiralled out of control in the media until everyone including the boot studder was under threat of removal from Tony the Terrible. If Free is to stay on the board and become a productive member then he best learn a very, very important lesson in public relations, diplomacy and loyalty very, very quickly, otherwise he will risk becoming the second coming of Mal Brown. And no-one wants that.
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It couldn't get any worse on a PR level at the moment, MT
Nothing wrong with recruiting and changing your mix if it's not working, but you do it in a professional way, advising all people before you go to the media and presenting a united front behind your decisions.
Having someone make media comments when they admit they weren't a part of the process from the beginning, answered questions by saying you should ask someone else.
That interview was a role for the President and no-one else IMO.
PS: What did March mean by he's overstepped the mark on a "couple" of occasions? So there have been other incidents?
As a guess Free must have come in and blown his mouth off despite having no credentials other than being a former Tiger captain. The last time he was in footy was 12 years ago. Footy has changed remarkably in the past 12-24 months let alone 12 years. Modern footy depts aren't one man bands like they would've been under Northey and Walls. Imagine if you were part of the footy dept and been there for a number of years and some guy waltzes in as your performance judge yet you know he is far less qualified than you and is learning on the job. It's completely understandable if staff are ticked off.
As for the interview if Free thought only March should answer questions on Miller's sacking then why accept to do the interview in the first place. Blind freddy would realise it would be the first question the media would ask to a club director.
Amatuer week at the RFC :scream
Who is too blame here ? blame starts at the top .Gary March and Steve Wright.
As it's a board appointment then March would be more to blame than Wright.
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Our football club looks like an unorganised brothel at the moment. Everyone should pull there heads in and just shut up.
Is that the one TM was thinking of purchasing on Punt Rd :lol.
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its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
Hello ??? Did the club not say that the decision was made last week (Tuesday 22/7/08) at a board meeting, that was attended by Free. Are they lying ???
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
Are you serious ??? I've heard some atrange ones this week but that takes the cake
If this whole sordid episode wasn't so serious it would be hystericial..... if it was any other club we'd be doing this :ROTFL :ROTFL
Sadly I can't help but do this :banghead :banghead
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Why is everyone blaming Tony Free for Millers sacking?
Miller's actual sacking has almost become a side issue to all this. The timing of it all and the way it has been handled has been a shambles. For March and the board to put themselves (or rather their decisions) before the team at this time is pathetic. So no I'm not blaming Free for Miller's sacking. It's just from what we've seen he is a loose cannon without any football management credentials apart from being a ex-captain of the club. It comes across as a token appointment to appease those who cry out for more "Richmond people". The club needs qualified leaders who unite everyone to work towards a common goal of success; not divide it between board and footy dept.
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geez its going to be an interesting off season.
now lets see how these factions line up.... :shh
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its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
Hello ??? Did the club not say that the decision was made last week (Tuesday 22/7/08) at a board meeting, that was attended by Free. Are they lying ???
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
Are you serious ??? I've heard some atrange ones this week but that takes the cake
If this whole sordid episode wasn't so serious it would be hystericial..... if it was any other club we'd be doing this :ROTFL :ROTFL
Sadly I can't help but do this :banghead :banghead
Miller was always going to get the flick. ;)
Wouldnt think Wallet would be sleeping too well these days ;)
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Parkin on Footy Teams tonight said that there is more to come. Was quite adamant that there are more heads to roll and was coy when asked if that included Wallace. To me it raises 2 questions - can we be any more self-destructive and is Parkin stooging for turmoil when we play them in 2 weeks.
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now that Miller is gone its open slather.
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Miller was always going to get the flick. ;)
Wouldnt think Wallet would be sleeping too well these days ;)
Given the fuss that TaT has caused with his Internet involvement do you think that there is any chance that you will ever get a job back at RFC?
Do you even want one?
???
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i hope for some on the board that the tiges dont get a flogging against the cats, some might develop a nervous twitch come late saturday night.
oh interesting times ahead :lol :lol :lol :lol
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I think we can win, I hope so anyway
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Miller was always going to get the flick. ;)
Wouldnt think Wallet would be sleeping too well these days ;)
Given the fuss that TaT has caused with his Internet involvement do you think that there is any chance that you will ever get a job back at RFC?
Do you even want one?
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Mate, dont want one. Over it, working with imposters who think there more important than the players, lol
Might be go back to coaching local footy next year.
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As l stated before Free is a scapegoat
stands out like balls on a bull, put the pieces into the puzzle
surely l dont need to write them up
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its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
Hello ??? Did the club not say that the decision was made last week (Tuesday 22/7/08) at a board meeting, that was attended by Free. Are they lying ???
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
Are you serious ??? I've heard some atrange ones this week but that takes the cake
If this whole sordid episode wasn't so serious it would be hystericial..... if it was any other club we'd be doing this :ROTFL :ROTFL
Sadly I can't help but do this :banghead :banghead
from what l heard wp the tigers board had been talking about removing miller for at least 6 weeks .
but l guess we all hear different storys ,l think removing greg would not of been a sudden decision .
getting him off the board was the first step and made it easier to get rid of him .
l think there will be more to come and hopefully the club handle it better .
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Mate, dont want one. Over it, working with imposters who think there more important than the players, lol
Might be go back to coaching local footy next year.
Thats it, they have had the wrong people in positions for years & replace them with the wrong people over
The club needs a bloke like Brendan Gale but as you say Jack he wont join because of imposters
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What I don't understand is now, when we are starting to finally make progress with our finances, playing list and onfield performance, we decide to get rid of the people who initiated the plan and club structure to achieve that success?! ???
Miller may have been over his used by date but the whole sacking at this stage of the year reaks of petty, selfish, boardroom politics to me. Why make any changes at this time of the year when we are still a chance to make the finals. Why not wait until we are out of the finals race or the season is over. Either way it would still occur before the magic October (The Magic decision month apparently!).
I'm all for change if its warrented but all this destablisation just seems untimely and unproductive to me.
Stripes
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stripes i hear ya.
this is why i think there has been alot more going on behind th escenes that we dont know about. the tigers atm have been pretty quiet, but they surely must not have been happy with certainparts about millers role thus have decided to let him go. yes timing was bad, but he was meant to be sacked at yrs end, the leak brought it fwd, thats another story.
but i feel miller probably was too close to the coaching staff thus not in a position to make unbiased clear judgements, the fact he wanted to add 3 yrs to wallaces contract at teh start of the year when he was on the board just proved he had his and wallaces interests ahead of the club. this plus his loyalties to the kangaroos and who knows what else prompted a full review .
lets be honest, wallace has a 5 year plan, there was no need to extend his contract til his contract expires. if all the boxes are ticked and we are at or beyond where his 5 yr plan intended, extend it, but if we are not, then he has failed. its plain and simple. if we get to finals this yr and make it next yr, im sure wallace will find and extension will be offered, but if we miss finals this yr and next yr, wallace can kiss his coaching career goodbye. i am sure that if we cant make finals in wallaces 5 yr term, even wallace will admit he failed.
i believe we can make the finals this yr, and am positive we will next yr. as the tigers are in control of their destiny this yr, wallace will also be, this yr and next. wallace should be rewarded with an extension after we find some success and finals, not now as miller wanted,
millers role at the rfc has been vastly overrated and he has bluffed many supporters i am glad to see the end of him
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its not frees fault miller went,it was decided before free joined the board .
Hello ??? Did the club not say that the decision was made last week (Tuesday 22/7/08) at a board meeting, that was attended by Free. Are they lying ???
miller no doubt leaked his possible sacking to the media and took off .
Are you serious ??? I've heard some atrange ones this week but that takes the cake
If this whole sordid episode wasn't so serious it would be hystericial..... if it was any other club we'd be doing this :ROTFL :ROTFL
Sadly I can't help but do this :banghead :banghead
from what l heard wp the tigers board had been talking about removing miller for at least 6 weeks .
but l guess we all hear different storys ,l think removing greg would not of been a sudden decision .
getting him off the board was the first step and made it easier to get rid of him .
l think there will be more to come and hopefully the club handle it better .
They may have been talking about it for longer and the writing was on the wall since Miller left the board, but March admitted the decision to sack Miller was made at the last board meeting which was on the Tuesday before the Brisbane game. So on the back of 4 wins from 5 games and with a crunch game coming up to boost our finals chances the board decides to sack a member of the footy dept naively hoping they could keep it quiet for 7 weeks. How stupid can you get! ::)
Some supporters are too forgiving of what's happened because they are just glad Miller is gone. For the president and his board to put themselves before the team is a disgrace. Whatismore we are looking for a new major sponsor and that will be a lot easier to find if we were to make the finals. Not to mention the boost it would give to next year's membership. Nah let's put an L-plater on the board and create instability now for the sake of it ::) :banghead.
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miller put himself before the team many times. so why are so many tiger fans so forgiving of that?
lets face some facts, everyone on the board is a rfc peron, millers is not. we lost no one important
lets move on, the love some have for than bs artist miller is making me sick
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miller put himself before the team many times. so why are so many tiger fans so forgiving of that?
I can't recall any instances. Got a couple of examples to jog my memory?
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lets move on, the love some have for than bs artist miller is making me sick
Then grab a bucket and move on
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Well according to Caro only Freezer gets classed as a "Richmond person" on the board. That talk is sentimental nonsense anyway. So called "Richmond people" screwed our club into the mire in the first place and then kept it there for a quarter of a century ::). You want the best people who know what they are doing; not amatuers who need to learn on the job and needs to ask his mates what he is suppose to be doing. If this was another club we'd be calling them a rabble.
In any case this isn't about the actual decision to sack Miller. If it happened at the end of the season when it should have been done no one would care. It's about the timing and handling of the situation which has been an utter shambles. If you were one of the players busting their backside to get us into the finals you would feel like throttling the president and tell him and the board to butt out and shut up until the end of the season. Then again it's rumoured that's already happened lol.
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Parkin on Footy Teams tonight said that there is more to come. Was quite adamant that there are more heads to roll and was coy when asked if that included Wallace. To me it raises 2 questions - can we be any more self-destructive and is Parkin stooging for turmoil when we play them in 2 weeks.
Yep, saw that segment myself and I reckon Parkin knows something.As you said, he was adamant there was more to come and he was firmly of the belief that it would be good for the Club. He was very sheepish when asked if it involved TW, but after BT pressed for more, he hinted it may well do so.
Interesting times ahead if that is the case.
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lets move on, the love some have for than bs artist miller is making me sick
Then grab a bucket and move on
thats a very blokey joke, so funny
look miiller was and always will be a troll. he is gone and he isnt coming back
he wqas sacked by the swans, sacked by the roos, and now we made the trifecta. the fact that he was sacked from his 2 previous jobs says enogh
all you miller brainwashed lovers move on build a bridge and get over it
focus on the team and the club , not how we sacked that snake :banghead :banghead :banghead less noise was made when kb was stitched up!
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I believe we look like idiots, I believe that Gary March has damaged himself in this episode and he should resign, the board need to take a good hard look at themselves en masse, Gary March should be replaced by a David Morgan type (ex ceo of Westpac).
This rubbish with the Miller removal should have happened 3 months ago, they should have pulled the trigger then and got Balme back to Richmond. The newspaper headlines would have been of a Tiger Coup in getting Balme especially from Geelong. It would have been a powerful play from an improving club instead we have a rabble situation. They should all be ashamed of themselves at Punt Rd. I was right - we look like a disorganised Brothel.
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Parkin on Footy Teams tonight said that there is more to come. Was quite adamant that there are more heads to roll and was coy when asked if that included Wallace. To me it raises 2 questions - can we be any more self-destructive and is Parkin stooging for turmoil when we play them in 2 weeks.
Yep, saw that segment myself and I reckon Parkin knows something.As you said, he was adamant there was more to come and he was firmly of the belief that it would be good for the Club. He was very sheepish when asked if it involved TW, but after BT pressed for more, he hinted it may well do so.
Interesting times ahead if that is the case.
Probably adding to the coaching panel, not taking away.
And if it Wallace going, more leaks ::)
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lets move on, the love some have for than bs artist miller is making me sick
Then grab a bucket and move on
thats a very blokey joke, so funny
look miiller was and always will be a troll. he is gone and he isnt coming back
he wqas sacked by the swans, sacked by the roos, and now we made the trifecta. the fact that he was sacked from his 2 previous jobs says enogh
all you miller brainwashed lovers move on build a bridge and get over it
focus on the team and the club , not how we sacked that snake :banghead :banghead :banghead less noise was made when kb was stitched up!
You pretending to be female is just a little revolting.
Just be who you are and stop scaring me.
:help
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look miiller was and always will be a troll. he is gone and he isnt coming back
he wqas sacked by the swans, sacked by the roos, and now we made the trifecta. the fact that he was sacked from his 2 previous jobs says enogh
all you miller brainwashed lovers move on build a bridge and get over it
focus on the team and the club , not how we sacked that snake :banghead :banghead :banghead less noise was made when kb was stitched up!
Seeing you seem to know so much about the bloke you must know him very well indeed ::). Troll, snake bs artist - l
Sacked from his 2 previous jobs :help now that's funny
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some people got out of the wrong side of the bed today
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Parkin on Footy Teams tonight said that there is more to come. Was quite adamant that there are more heads to roll and was coy when asked if that included Wallace. To me it raises 2 questions - can we be any more self-destructive and is Parkin stooging for turmoil when we play them in 2 weeks.
Yep, saw that segment myself and I reckon Parkin knows something.As you said, he was adamant there was more to come and he was firmly of the belief that it would be good for the Club. He was very sheepish when asked if it involved TW, but after BT pressed for more, he hinted it may well do so.
Interesting times ahead if that is the case.
From memory, wasn't Parkin was involved in the 2003 coach selection committee that actually selected Wallace
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From memory, wasn't Parkin was involved in the 2003 coach selection committee that actually selected Wallace
Correct
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Good to see the off-field leak/stuff-up hasn't affected the side Gary lol :whistle
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Good to see the off-field leak/stuff-up hasn't affected the side Gary lol :whistle
I wouldnt think it had too much to do with our form, we just arent good enough.
Add to the fact that many of our younger players are falling off the pace as the season draws to a close.
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Good to see the off-field leak/stuff-up hasn't affected the side Gary lol :whistle
Has nothing to do with it.
Blame the fool we have as coach MT