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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mat073 on February 23, 2009, 04:17:15 PM
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Just wondering what everyone thinks of the concept of a female commentator.
I believe in equal opportunity....but Im not looking forward to her calling matches involving Richmond.
To me its like going to a Guns n Roses concert and having Mariah Carey fill in for Axel Rose.
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If I can do my workouts at fernwood, then I have no problem with Kellie commentating.
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I don't reckon many of the blokes would have been fantastic on their first ever match. She did a reasonable job, and would no doubt get better with more experience. If she's going to be more than a token novelty, they should persist with her and let her develop her style and relax so that she can put more oomph and personality into it.
I'm sure Dennis Cometti took a while before he started dropping in the smart one liners etc.
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It would've been a flat game to commentate. Small crowd and a one sided game. Apart from Ablett it was :sleep.
I thought she did okay for her first tv game. She would've been nervous even though she's done plenty of radio work. The only criticism I have was she was a bit flat in her voice. It needed more highs and lows in her commentary to pump up the more exciting bits.
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She was very flat, was a little behind in what was happening.
She's not the worst though, Matt Campbell has that title.
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Didn't like it, and don't like the concept either.
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Agree totally with the flat comments. Her knowledge was reasonable and typical first game nerves showed through but I didn't (and won't) have a problem with her as long as she lets more excitement come out in her voice. Probably did a better job than most of us could have done. :)
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She was very flat, was a little behind in what was happening.
She's not the worst though, Matt Campbell has that title.
I'm not saying anymore
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Thought she did a good job.
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Didn't like it, and don't like the concept either.
What concept?
She did a good job for a first up effort, and I have no problems with her commentating again. What does it matter, anyway, that she's a woman? Who cares.
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Im not sexist but.......... lol it just doesnt sound right!
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Well without being too mean I thought she was crap, I actually turned over, she has a poo TV commentating voice. I work in a very proactive female environment which I support whole heartedly. But sorry her voice does not suite commentating end of story.
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Considering it was a one off - we wont have to worry about her for the remainder of this year ;D
I agree with wayne, about the flat comment and being a bit behind the play at times. I was surprised at the time that they got her to call with Tim Lane but in hindsight was probably the best option; that is the most experienced option.
Thought she saounded very nervous but the nerves settled, I don't think she was helped by it being such a crap game ;D
She is certainly not the worst I've ever heard, certainly not the best
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She is certainly not the worst I've ever heard, certainly not the best
Exactly, but I think there are plenty better, so you have to wonder if it's tokenism again.
I think Christy Malthouse does a good job and holds her own against her male counterparts.
While I didn't think Kelli did a bad job, I just wasn't overwhelmed by her.
But it was her first go at it, and deserves a bit of time to steady the nerves etc.
Same with Grant Hackett, he's still like a fish out of water :lol as a sports reporter.
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Happy to hear a female voice calling the footy. Kelli obviously loves her footy, and commentated play rather than attempt to predict it, so I didn't have a problem with her call.
If only others went to the Ritchie Benaud school of broadcasting.
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Hearing her commentate illustrated all the problems that exist with the modern game IMHO
Our game has been satinised almost beyong recongnition to the game i grew up to love in the 1980s.
With demetriou putting adrian anderson in charge the game is run to appease soccer moms, the football tragics will just have to learn to adapt and no doubt we will.
The game is largely little to no contact and will continue to resemble the game the afl is absolutely poo scared of being replaced by ( soccer ), Rolling zones and possession football which avoids contests makes for a much less visually appealling product. AFL has a historical reputation for brutality. Demetriou has made it his mandate to make it more appealling to the decision maker in most family's ..... the mum. My question is, at what cost. The bump is slowly but surely been outlawed, to appease worried mothers of injuries to there over parented, over protected offspring.
I guess the final straw is to have a whining woman commentate as well, soccer moms would love that too, what about the rest of us? I hope we dont have hear here annoying voice again, but I doubt it. What is this world coming to?
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I guess the final straw is to have a whining woman commentate as well, soccer moms would love that too, what about the rest of us? I hope we dont have hear here annoying voice again, but I doubt it. What is this world coming to?
Whining woman? ::)
I usually enjoy reading your comments but that is ridiculous.
And as I understand it we have no soccer moms here.
If the state of football is down to women in this country then I'd say the men have no balls.
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I guess the final straw is to have a whining woman commentate as well, soccer moms would love that too, what about the rest of us? I hope we dont have hear here annoying voice again, but I doubt it. What is this world coming to?
Whining woman? ::)
I usually enjoy reading your comments but that is ridiculous.
And as I understand it we have no soccer moms here.
If the state of football is down to women in this country then I'd say the men have no balls.
Yep, I take offence as well.
Typical dinosaur comments :sleep
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If the state of football is down to women in this country then I'd say the men have no balls.
I actually agree
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boring as batshit...
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Hearing her commentate illustrated all the problems that exist with the modern game IMHO
Our game has been satinised almost beyong recongnition to the game i grew up to love in the 1980s.
With demetriou putting adrian anderson in charge the game is run to appease soccer moms, the football tragics will just have to learn to adapt and no doubt we will.
The game is largely little to no contact and will continue to resemble the game the afl is absolutely poo scared of being replaced by ( soccer ), Rolling zones and possession football which avoids contests makes for a much less visually appealling product. AFL has a historical reputation for brutality. Demetriou has made it his mandate to make it more appealling to the decision maker in most family's ..... the mum. My question is, at what cost. The bump is slowly but surely been outlawed, to appease worried mothers of injuries to there over parented, over protected offspring.
I guess the final straw is to have a whining woman commentate as well, soccer moms would love that too, what about the rest of us? I hope we dont have hear here annoying voice again, but I doubt it. What is this world coming to?
correct.
You know that annoying sound of fingertips running down the board at school. Well thats what it felt like listening to that Underwood on Channel 10.
I was actually embarrassed for her it was that bad. She is a nice sort though maybe a career elsewhere beckons.
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Sounds like it was a once off......for the time being.Also an example of channel 10 trying to reinvent the wheel.
If not wanting kelli to commentate games makes me a dinosour, I will happily change my name to T-REX.lol
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Don't think its necessarily footy...
Look on a saturday night just about any big city in Australia you'll see half the men in girls jeans. Sons of Germaine Greers disciples. Masculinity is not really in vogue......
But couldn't be bothered about Kelli Underwood, got bigger issues than whether the person commentating on the footy I'm watching has a set of nuts between their legs.
Besides, we put up with Bruce McAvaney's limp wristed knee touching queerness for how long? This is hardly a far stretch..
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Sounds like it was a once off......for the time being.Also an example of channel 10 trying to reinvent the wheel.
If not wanting kelli to commentate games makes me a dinosour, I will happily change my name to T-REX.lol
Don't want to misinterpret you or Blaisee, but are you both saying women shouldn't be in the game at all, or just this instance?
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I dont really care as long as she gets the players names right, as that is one thing that peeves me off
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Don't want to misinterpret you or Blaisee, but are you both saying women shouldn't be in the game at all, or just this instance?
I know one woman who shouldn't be involved at all, this particular woman who doesn't follow any sports whatsoever can't see what the big deal is about a RFC game on Fox. She can't see the need for me to be focused 100% on the TV and not her or the screaming children when the tiges are on :whistle
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Sounds like it was a once off......for the time being.Also an example of channel 10 trying to reinvent the wheel.
If not wanting kelli to commentate games makes me a dinosour, I will happily change my name to T-REX.lol
Don't want to misinterpret you or Blaisee, but are you both saying women shouldn't be in the game at all, or just this instance?
Moi....I have alot of respect for Caroline Wilson and look forward to seeing her on Footy Classified every Monday.
I think its great that we have a female goal umpire.
I believe Football is a form of entertainment and having Kelli commentate detracts from my enjoyment of the game.This is just the way I feel.
I dont like Will Smith either and wont watch any of his movies .I hope that doesn't make me racist.
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Sounds like it was a once off......for the time being.Also an example of channel 10 trying to reinvent the wheel.
If not wanting kelli to commentate games makes me a dinosour, I will happily change my name to T-REX.lol
Don't want to misinterpret you or Blaisee, but are you both saying women shouldn't be in the game at all, or just this instance?
I have a question for you,
Is Ms Underwood the best person they could find for the job, or the best female they could find for the job?
Therin lies your answer ;)
I am all for equality, but this is a case of rampant reverse sexism . Its ridiculous.
You could find 1000 blokes to do the job as well as Kelli did it, but no, we have to give the job to a woman, paying no regard to her relative ability ( or lack of ability for that matter )
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You could find 1000 blokes to do the job as well as Kelli did it, but no, we have to give the job to a woman, paying no regard to her relative ability ( or lack of ability for that matter )
Well in that case why didn't they? Use one of the 1000 blokes I mean. Perhaps she was the best person for the job after all. ::)
You need to get that chip on your shoulder seen to.
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I have a question for you,
Is Ms Underwood the best person they could find for the job, or the best female they could find for the job?
Therin lies your answer ;)
I am all for equality, but this is a case of rampant reverse sexism . Its ridiculous.
You could find 1000 blokes to do the job as well as Kelli did it, but no, we have to give the job to a woman, paying no regard to her relative ability ( or lack of ability for that matter )
She's probably not the best for the job and wouldn't have been my choice.
But is Grant Hackett the best sports news presenter?
I really doubt it.
Horses for courses on this topic. We both can provide lots of examples where someone has been used for a job that others can do better.
But what I was askiing you was if you thought there was a place for women in footy was more what I was asking.
I gather from your above answer you're not totally against women if they're the right person for the job. That's good, but hey, I can find just as many blokes in footy that are frauds and/or annoy the crap out of me as well.
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Can't understand the fuss. I turned the teev over to watch the game and it took me a while to realise it was Kellie commentating.
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There was a poll in the herald sun which had 56% of people saying Kelli was not a success.There were over 5000 votes.
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Sounds like it was a once off......for the time being.Also an example of channel 10 trying to reinvent the wheel.
If not wanting kelli to commentate games makes me a dinosour, I will happily change my name to T-REX.lol
Don't want to misinterpret you or Blaisee, but are you both saying women shouldn't be in the game at all, or just this instance?
Moi....I have alot of respect for Caroline Wilson and look forward to seeing her on Footy Classified every Monday.
I think its great that we have a female goal umpire.
I believe Football is a form of entertainment and having Kelli commentate detracts from my enjoyment of the game.This is just the way I feel.
I dont like Will Smith either and wont watch any of his movies .I hope that doesn't make me racist.
Agree, it's just personal choice, and I respect your right to like her or not.
I'd like to see her have a preseason to see if she improves or not. I'm figuring they're testing her out as well, just to see if she can hack it, if we like her as etc. Just like coaches do a bit of finetuning during the preseason so do television stations I'm guessing.
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There was a poll in the herald sun which had 56% of people saying Kelli was not a success.There were over 5000 votes.
I would have been one of them. But I didn't hate what she did, it was just abnormal to hear a woman calling the footy. I hope they give her another go because I'd give anything for someone to replace Dwayne Russell lol
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Having reflected on what I said earlier......in the spirit of Richmond giving Ben Cousins another chance-I will give Kelli another go...But gee I hope its not a Tiger game.
If truth be known my first reaction to seeing Caro on talking footy was WHO THE HELL IS THIS WOMAN.
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There was a poll in the herald sun which had 56% of people saying Kelli was not a success.There were over 5000 votes.
And there was a poll in the Age, 60% of people were in favour of Kelli.
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I have a question for you,
Is Ms Underwood the best person they could find for the job, or the best female they could find for the job?
Therin lies your answer ;)
I am all for equality, but this is a case of rampant reverse sexism . Its ridiculous.
You could find 1000 blokes to do the job as well as Kelli did it, but no, we have to give the job to a woman, paying no regard to her relative ability ( or lack of ability for that matter )
She's probably not the best for the job and wouldn't have been my choice.
But is Grant Hackett the best sports news presenter?
I really doubt it.
Horses for courses on this topic. We both can provide lots of examples where someone has been used for a job that others can do better.
But what I was askiing you was if you thought there was a place for women in footy was more what I was asking.
I gather from your above answer you're not totally against women if they're the right person for the job. That's good, but hey, I can find just as many blokes in footy that are frauds and/or annoy the crap out of me as well.
Underwood >>>>>>>>>>>>> poor old Grant lol.
I agree they are testing her out. She's been a good and knowledgeable footy reporter on the radio for a while now so they must be just seeing how she'd go commentating.
I personally don't think there are the good commentators available. Most modern day ones wouldn't last two seconds compared to the personality of a Mike Williamson, Lou Richards or Rex in his hey day. Cometti is the only one decent on Seven (Bruce has lost his spark since they got back the footy coverage and they've given Watson the stuff down to the boundary because he'd put you to sleep). TEN has hardly anyone that makes you go yeah he's great and when we're playing Hawthorn or Carlton the bias is cringeworthy. BT is pretty good on MMM but I can't stand nuff nuff Spud's "special" commentary :rollin. I actually like Eddie commentating non-Collingwood games :outtahere.
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BT is going to be doing some of the Foxtel games this season
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I am all for equality, but this is a case of rampant reverse sexism . Its ridiculous.
You could find 1000 blokes to do the job as well as Kelli did it, but no, we have to give the job to a woman, paying no regard to her relative ability ( or lack of ability for that matter )
It is interesting that what seems to have been lost in all of this is the fact that Ch 10 gave another of their sports reporters a chance to call a game the week before. That was always their intention during the NAB Cup. To reward their staff with an opportunity - the 2 people being Underwood & Waters
FWIW - Rob Waters called the Brisbane/Saints game the week before and to be honest IMHO he was woeful. But no-one has critiqued his efforts. I certainly don't think I read or heard a word about his performance. It is likely he will just not get another go
Last year I'm sure they gave Andy Maher a go as well and he hasn't been commentating matches on Ch 10 since, he remains stuck on the boundary line ;D
So I am not really sure it can be classed as "rampant reverse sexism".
I agree totally that it should be a case of giving the job to the best available, a person's gender should not play a role. I think they (Ch 10) have simply given 2 people a chance at commentating nothing, more nothing less
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Give me Kelli any day over idiot Maher's uncontrolled blue-barracking :chuck. He makes Eddie sound neutral.