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Title: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: one-eyed on March 31, 2009, 04:10:22 PM
Here's the podcast courtesy of SEN of Joel's interview at training:

http://www.podsentral.com/sites/default/files/Matt%20cross%20for%20Podcast.mp3 (http://www.podsentral.com/sites/default/files/Matt%20cross%20for%20Podcast.mp3)

More here on the Herald-Sun site with video of the interview

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25268977-19742,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25268977-19742,00.html)

Finn Bradshaw with AAP
March 31, 2009 12:45pm

Speaking before training today, veteran Joel Bowden said the team has tried to learn from last week's disappointment.

"We did the review on Friday and went through areas to improve on, areas we though we did OK ... there weren't too many we did OK on, unfortunately.

"This week we're going to be as competitive as we possibly can. Geelong are a very good side ... it's going to be a great challenge for us. In some ways that's a good thing for us ... we have to get back on the horse and show we're ready to go," Bowden said.

While admitting there were areas to work on, Bowden stressed that the team wasn't throwing the bady out with the bathwater.

"We don't train for six months to have one bad loss and then say everything's broken. So we're going to train today on the areas we've been training the past few months," he said.

Bowden put the onus on he and his teammates to put in better effort against Geelong on Saturday than they did in last Thursday's season opener, when they were humiliated by Carlton.

"Perhaps if we're not competitive maybe there's changes made to personnel or changes made to the structure or the system that we're trying to implement," he said.

Richmond's nightmare start - in which they were thrashed by 83 points on a massive stage and lost Ben Cousins and Andrew Raines to injury - heaped the pressure on Wallace and the players, who are out to reach the club's first finals series since 2001.

Bowden said the Tigers had to quickly learn to respond in the best way even though the Cats at Skilled Stadium represent one of the game's most formidable assignments.

"Football is a very, very hard game and someone once said footy's about 90 per cent mental and only 10 per cent physical," he said.

"This week against Geelong we need to go in with a very, very strong mindset that we're going to go hard at the ball and play our role.

"Everyone has to play their role, from the most senior to the most junior player, they're going to have to do better, myself included ... we have to make sure we're competitive because last week we weren't competitive."

Bowden said the mood at the club was still a positive one, although he had adopted a bunker-down approach by steering clear of newspapers, radio and television for the week.

"Although I do hold a position at the players' association (he is the AFLPA president) in a week like this I've decided to not be so involved in consuming (media)," he said.

So, Bowden said he was unaware of comments made by Collingwood president Eddie McGuire, who made the link between the Richmond coaching job and Kevin Sheedy.

"You know what? I missed that one," Bowden said.

BEN Cousins has taken the first steps on the road to recovery from the hamstring injury he suffered in his comeback match.

The Tigers' boom recruit jogged slowly along the boundary line with medical staff at Richmond training this morning.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25268977-19742,00.html
Title: Tigers ready for Geelong challenge (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on March 31, 2009, 04:24:52 PM
Tigers ready for Geelong challenge
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen 1:30 PM Tue 31 March, 2009

RICHMOND stalwart Joel Bowden says the Tigers have picked themselves up and are ready for the ultimate challenge against Geelong at Skilled Stadium this week.

“The mood’s okay, we just need to make sure we’re competitive this week – it’s a great challenge for us against Geelong,” he said from Victoria Park on Tuesday.

“We did the review on Friday and went through areas to improve on, and areas that we thought we did okay – and there weren’t too many where we did okay, unfortunately.

“The players know that they have to play well – it’s our job.

“We’re employed by to football club to put in a good performance, and last week wasn’t a good performance by any stretch of the imagination.”

There was some semi-good news on the training track with Ben Cousins running (gentle) laps and Trent Cotchin kicking the ball (gently).

And Bowden said the side had come back this week seeking redemption.

“We’re training hard, we had the weekend off to reflect, and everyone’s come back to say we want to do better,” he said.

“We want to be as competitive as we possibly can, and put in a much better performance this weekend.”
Bowden said this week’s game against Geelong – which has lost just three games since North Melbourne beat them in round five 2007 – could be a positive for the Tigers.

“Geelong are a very good side, and they’ve shown that over the last few years,” he said.

“It’s going to be a great challenge for us, and in some ways, that’s probably a good thing for us, make sure we get back on the horse, and make sure that we’re ready to go.

“Drive down to Skilled Stadium and put in our best possible performance.”
Bowden also stressed that in a team game like football, everyone needed to do their bit.

“This week against Geelong, we need to go in with a very very strong mindset, that we’re going to go hard at the ball, and play our role.

“Everyone has to play their role from the most senior to the most junior player, they’re going to have to do better, myself included.

“We all have to play our part. Unlike basketball, where one really dominant player can get the side up, in footy there’s 22 of us, we all need to do our job, play our part, set it up and make sure that we’re competitive this weekend, because last weekend we weren’t.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/74071/default.aspx
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: wayne on March 31, 2009, 04:30:44 PM
In all honesty, Joel shouldn't be there for this weeks game.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: tiga on March 31, 2009, 04:32:58 PM

"Football is a very, very hard game and someone once said footy's about 90 per cent mental and only 10 per cent physical," he said.


Well if its 90 per cent mental and were playing dumb footy, doesn't give us a whole lot to fall back on. Hell at the moment I'd settle for 90 per cent physical and 10 per cent mental. At least we would go hard at the ball and tackle. doesn't take to much grey matter to do that.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Chuck17 on March 31, 2009, 04:34:34 PM
In all honesty, Joel shouldn't be there for this weeks game.

Sentiments shared, but I would probably give all the senior players one game to redeem themselves

Well if its 90 per cent mental and were playing dumb footy, doesn't give us a whole lot to fall back on. Hell at the moment I'd settle for 90 per cent physical and 10 per cent mental. At least we would go hard at the ball and tackle. doesn't take to much grey matter to do that.

Amen to that
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 31, 2009, 04:46:47 PM
In all honesty, Joel shouldn't be there for this weeks game.

yep enough is enough

i have defended this guy in the past but no more. He has not gotta defensive bone in his body along with about 18 off his mates

goodbye
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 06:01:19 PM
gees when bowden won games for us last year eg port and lions, he was a god, one bad game and he is bad again

we all know joel starts the season slow, but he is a class act and just shows that many tiger fans have no idea

hodge picks up a heap of touches as a loose man in defence and he is the best, joel does it and he is crap.  so many double standards in afl, and many many tiger fans have no idea what so ever but believe they know it all and have all the answers

im amazed why all of you know all have never played an afl game at this level
 :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: yellowandback on March 31, 2009, 07:12:47 PM
gees when bowden won games for us last year eg port and lions, he was a god, one bad game and he is bad again

we all know joel starts the season slow, but he is a class act and just shows that many tiger fans have no idea

hodge picks up a heap of touches as a loose man in defence and he is the best, joel does it and he is crap.  so many double standards in afl, and many many tiger fans have no idea what so ever but believe they know it all and have all the answers

im amazed why all of you know all have never played an afl game at this level
 :banghead

Its a team game, we can't wait for Joel Bowden to catch up just because he starts the season slowly - he can do that at Coburg.


Do you play AFL? Are you Joel Bowden? If so, why don't you out yourself and impart your wisdom to this forum on how the team could dish up an 83 point defeat to a team that finished below it on the ladder last year.
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Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 31, 2009, 07:21:27 PM
Trawl through my posts if you like Tiger Time I have never been a Bowden supporter.
Doesn't make me any more special than any other poster here but for me having that fraud justify or recognise what we need to do only to play a pacified defensive game with 25+ possessions on Saturday in a 80 point plus walloping is why we are where we are as footy club. 

Now the pro Bowden posters will come on and say how he won us the game last year and AA in 2005 and what not. OK everyone is entitled to their opinion and I have presented an anti Bowden and some here have presented a pro Bowden agenda, but it is a player like him that has epitomised Richmond's standing yet lack of success throughout his career.

Let me encapsulate this

Bowden talented equates to RFC plenty of support plenty of members lots of passion

Bowden the player equates to lazy pacified egocentrical stats accumulation undefensive and undisciplined self preservation and fraudulently comes across as someone who cares aboiut the RFC using his so called saviness and human interest project to come across as caring.

 He should not be our face/voice after the game he played on Thursday. This is where Newman needs to save face as skipper of the club. Bowden should not be ahead of a kid like Rance. Rance has 15 years of footy in front of him, Bowden is finished and washed up.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 07:23:19 PM
gees when bowden won games for us last year eg port and lions, he was a god, one bad game and he is bad again

we all know joel starts the season slow, but he is a class act and just shows that many tiger fans have no idea

hodge picks up a heap of touches as a loose man in defence and he is the best, joel does it and he is crap.  so many double standards in afl, and many many tiger fans have no idea what so ever but believe they know it all and have all the answers

im amazed why all of you know all have never played an afl game at this level
 :banghead

Its a team game, we can't wait for Joel Bowden to catch up just because he starts the season slowly - he can do that at Coburg.


Do you play AFL? Are you Joel Bowden? If so, why don't you out yourself and impart your wisdom to this forum on how the team could dish up an 83 point defeat to a team that finished below it on the ladder last year.
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based on your team game theory we must drop 90% of the team.
Richo let the team down with his non existant accountability, he has since day dot let the team down with his poor  kicking for goal esp at crucial moments. in a team game one must not let the team down by not chasing and missing sitters. what about newman and deledio, should drop them too after their efforts and dont get me started on foley , who was he playing for our team or the blues, he has a 38% effective disposal count

joel wont be dropped , others will go before him
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 07:28:26 PM
Trawl through my posts if you like Tiger Time I have never been a Bowden supporter.
Doesn't make me any more special than any other poster here but for me having that fraud justify or recognise what we need to do only to play a pacified defensive game with 25+ possessions on Saturday in a 80 point plus walloping is why we are where we are as footy club. 

Now the pro Bowden posters will come on and say how he won us the game last year and AA in 2005 and what not. OK everyone is entitled to their opinion and I have presented an anti Bowden and some here have presented a pro Bowden agenda, but it is a player like him that has epitomised Richmond's standing yet lack of success throughout his career.

Let me encapsulate this

Bowden talented equates to RFC plenty of support plenty of members lots of passion

Bowden the player equates to lazy pacified egocentrical stats accumulation undefensive and undisciplined self preservation and fraudulently comes across as someone who cares aboiut the RFC using his so called saviness and human interest project to come across as caring.

 He should not be our face/voice after the game he played on Thursday. This is where Newman needs to save face as skipper of the club. Bowden should not be ahead of a kid like Rance. Rance has 15 years of footy in front of him, Bowden is finished and washed up.

hodge plays that way, the afl worl love him

bowden , yes the guy who played with a broken cheek bone and has given is all , usually sacrificing his game to plug holes in our teams deficiencies

yes keep bagging him , but keep praising guys like foley who is our worst ball user, who cares if he is fast , flashy and looks like he is busting his gut, he is still way overrated.  joel may look lazy but all good footy players have that extra time.

as for newman, he is no skipper, another mistake by the club

deledio should have been made skipper if they were so dead set at not giving to richo for 1 yr.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Infamy on March 31, 2009, 07:29:12 PM
Bowden should never have come back into the side after he was dropped early last year
Even though we finished the year reasonably well, we never played with as much intensity as we did for the games he was dropped with Pettifer.
I don't care if he can a couple of decent games against bottom 4 sides Power & Essendon, his efforts were massively over rated by his fans. They were also balaned out by one of the worst games I've ever seen from a player in his game against Carlton for the centenary game.

As for comparing Hodge & Bowden, don't make me laugh. Hodge is far more versatile than playing on the half back line, he's also a very dangerous forward and brilliant midfielder. His disposal is deadly and he never has the brain farts that Bowden does. Hodge is also one of the hardest players at the ball in the entire AFL. Seriously the comparison is laughable.

As for rating Bowden over Foley, well given your comparison of Hodge & Bowden, I'm not going to pay too much attention to what you have to say anymore.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 31, 2009, 07:30:38 PM
Deledio is 22
Richo is the teams unoficial heartbeat. They had crap games but they have improvement left.
Bowden is 31 won't improve and is keeping a kid out of the side.
F*** him off and keep him at Coburg permanently.
Would rather Terry sacrifice for the club invest in the future and play Rance week in week out even if we lose than watch Bowden in the side win lose or draw. He is not the future.

Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 07:32:18 PM
Bowden should never have come back into the side after he was dropped early last year
Even though we finished the year reasonably well, we never played with as much intensity as we did for the games he was dropped with Pettifer.
I don't care if he can a couple of decent games against bottom 4 sides Power & Essendon, his efforts were massively over rated by his fans. They were also balaned out by one of the worst games I've ever seen from a player in his game against Carlton for the centenary game.

using that theaory we should have traded richo or delisted him when we last negotiated his contract in order to organise and develop a better functioning fwd line, same goes with sugar in our midfield etc etc

 :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Infamy on March 31, 2009, 07:33:41 PM
Bowden should never have come back into the side after he was dropped early last year
Even though we finished the year reasonably well, we never played with as much intensity as we did for the games he was dropped with Pettifer.
I don't care if he can a couple of decent games against bottom 4 sides Power & Essendon, his efforts were massively over rated by his fans. They were also balaned out by one of the worst games I've ever seen from a player in his game against Carlton for the centenary game.

using that theaory we should have traded richo or delisted him when we last negotiated his contract in order to organise and develop a better functioning fwd line, same goes with sugar in our midfield etc etc

 :banghead

Ummmm... no
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 07:34:14 PM
Deledio is 22
Richo is the teams unoficial heartbeat. They had crap games but they have improvement left.
Bowden is 31 won't improve and is keeping a kid out of the side.
F*** him off and keep him at Coburg permanently.
Would rather Terry sacrifice for the club invest in the future and play Rance week in week out even if we lose than watch Bowden in the side win lose or draw. He is not the future.



when bowden is no longer in our best 22 then he deserves to be dropped, plain and simple. at the moment he is in our top 10 let alone 22
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 07:35:01 PM
Bowden should never have come back into the side after he was dropped early last year
Even though we finished the year reasonably well, we never played with as much intensity as we did for the games he was dropped with Pettifer.
I don't care if he can a couple of decent games against bottom 4 sides Power & Essendon, his efforts were massively over rated by his fans. They were also balaned out by one of the worst games I've ever seen from a player in his game against Carlton for the centenary game.

using that theaory we should have traded richo or delisted him when we last negotiated his contract in order to organise and develop a better functioning fwd line, same goes with sugar in our midfield etc etc

 :banghead

Ummmm... no
ummmmmmmmmm..yes




edited to correct quote
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Infamy on March 31, 2009, 07:36:09 PM
Deledio is 22
Richo is the teams unoficial heartbeat. They had crap games but they have improvement left.
Bowden is 31 won't improve and is keeping a kid out of the side.
F*** him off and keep him at Coburg permanently.
Would rather Terry sacrifice for the club invest in the future and play Rance week in week out even if we lose than watch Bowden in the side win lose or draw. He is not the future.



when bowden is no longer in our best 22 then he deserves to be dropped, plain and simple. at the moment he is in our top 10 let alone 22

That's HILARIOUS
I reckon blind people would rather stay blind than have your vision
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 07:38:53 PM
Deledio is 22
Richo is the teams unoficial heartbeat. They had crap games but they have improvement left.
Bowden is 31 won't improve and is keeping a kid out of the side.
F*** him off and keep him at Coburg permanently.
Would rather Terry sacrifice for the club invest in the future and play Rance week in week out even if we lose than watch Bowden in the side win lose or draw. He is not the future.



when bowden is no longer in our best 22 then he deserves to be dropped, plain and simple. at the moment he is in our top 10 let alone 22

That's HILARIOUS
I reckon blind people would rather stay blind than have your vision

in that case, butt 2 cigars in your eyes, and you wont have to see the bowdens of the world again
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 31, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
Trawl through my posts if you like Tiger Time I have never been a Bowden supporter.
Doesn't make me any more special than any other poster here but for me having that fraud justify or recognise what we need to do only to play a pacified defensive game with 25+ possessions on Saturday in a 80 point plus walloping is why we are where we are as footy club. 

Now the pro Bowden posters will come on and say how he won us the game last year and AA in 2005 and what not. OK everyone is entitled to their opinion and I have presented an anti Bowden and some here have presented a pro Bowden agenda, but it is a player like him that has epitomised Richmond's standing yet lack of success throughout his career.

Let me encapsulate this

Bowden talented equates to RFC plenty of support plenty of members lots of passion

Bowden the player equates to lazy pacified egocentrical stats accumulation undefensive and undisciplined self preservation and fraudulently comes across as someone who cares aboiut the RFC using his so called saviness and human interest project to come across as caring.

 He should not be our face/voice after the game he played on Thursday. This is where Newman needs to save face as skipper of the club. Bowden should not be ahead of a kid like Rance. Rance has 15 years of footy in front of him, Bowden is finished and washed up.

hodge plays that way, the afl worl love him

bowden , yes the guy who played with a broken cheek bone and has given is all , usually sacrificing his game to plug holes in our teams deficiencies

yes keep bagging him , but keep praising guys like foley who is our worst ball user, who cares if he is fast , flashy and looks like he is busting his gut, he is still way overrated.  joel may look lazy but all good footy players have that extra time.

as for newman, he is no skipper, another mistake by the club

deledio should have been made skipper if they were so dead set at not giving to richo for 1 yr.

i wont be throwing Newman out with the wolves yet. He is a good player and deserves time.

Bowden i have defended time and time again but im sorry most on here are right.

He should be riding opponents into the ground like most of our players instead they attempt to tackle with one finger.

Bowden was not our worst footballer and i do believe that he too is played in the wrong position.

Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 31, 2009, 07:41:54 PM
I actually think it should have been the Captain who spoke to the media today, if we had to have someone speaking....

first preference was to have no-one speaking....

we don't need words this week time for action
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Mr Magic on March 31, 2009, 07:53:27 PM
Joel should have used the rare media opportunity to announce his retirement.

Have been a fan for a long time but the writing is on the wall for this Tiger stalwart.

Was lacking poise & looked very slow the other night. I was embarrassed for him.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 07:53:57 PM
I actually think it should have been the Captain who spoke to the media today, if we had to have someone speaking....

first preference was to have no-one speaking....

we don't need words this week time for action

totally agree, but i gues richo and joel are out captains.
talking about captains or ex captains, is it true that sugar has been placed on the LTIL and nahas has been promoted?

if so, will sugar be gaspared?
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 07:55:39 PM
Joel should have used the rare media opportunity to announce his retirement.

Have been a fan for a long time but the writing is on the wall for this Tiger stalwart.

Was lacking poise & looked very slow the other night. I was embarrassed for him.

watching richo celebrating kicking posters and not chasing waite was also embarrassing, so maybe richo should join joel and retire together hey
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Mr Magic on March 31, 2009, 08:00:52 PM
so maybe richo should join joel and retire together hey

Eh no.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Ox on March 31, 2009, 08:14:25 PM
FHO.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 08:17:53 PM
many double standards amongst members on this site re players
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: tiga on March 31, 2009, 08:30:24 PM
I hardly think its double standards to praise a players efforts for performing well and then criticise them when they perform poorly. I doubt very much that a coach would spare a player from a spray if he is having a shocker just because he played well the week before.  ::)
For mine its no different for supporters. At least most of us can see the glaring failures in Joels performance last week.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Infamy on March 31, 2009, 08:35:56 PM
many double standards amongst members on this site re players
I fail to see how you can't tell the difference between a player who came 3rd in the Brownlow last year and a player who's been a liability in the side for 2 years and was awarded Worst on Ground by MMM in one of our worst games of the past 5 years.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 08:37:39 PM
I hardly think its double standards to praise a players efforts for performing well and then criticise them when they perform poorly. I doubt very much that a coach would spare a player from a spray if he is having a shocker just because he played well the week before.  ::)
For mine its no different for supporters. At least most of us can see the glaring failures in Joels performance last week.

yes but richos, deledios, tucks, foleys, etc failures dont get a mention

doyble standards

at least brown came out and admitted he was crap, but we dont hear richo come out and say i should have chased, i should have kicked those crucial goals, i should noy celebrate posters lol, i havent heard tuck, deledio and foley come out and say i should have hit targets

snake never said drop me i cant mark a footy etc

double standards, as per usual joel is the whipping boy
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on March 31, 2009, 08:38:44 PM
many double standards amongst members on this site re players
I fail to see how you can't tell the difference between a player who came 3rd in the Brownlow last year and a player who's been a liability in the side for 2 years and was awarded Worst on Ground by MMM in one of our worst games of the past 5 years.

MMM............. :lol
i rest my case



edited to correct quote
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Chuck17 on March 31, 2009, 08:57:27 PM
double standards, as per usual joel is the whipping boy

Actually we have a whole host of whipping boys; Petts, McMahon, JON, Schulz, Tambo, Jackson, Sugar

Just sharing the love
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 31, 2009, 09:08:21 PM
I wouldn't say Joel's been the only whipping boy this week

It's been shared around  ;D

Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Infamy on March 31, 2009, 09:39:05 PM
I wouldn't say Joel's been the only whipping boy this week

It's been shared around  ;D
I'd say he's got off lightly to be honest, his name hasn't popped up nearly as much as others


What I like least about Bowden's comments is him only talking about trying to be competitive this week, not trying to win
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 31, 2009, 09:50:04 PM
Agree Infamy its almost as if we are happy to stay as close to Geelong as possible before we inevitably lose, that way regardless of the margin we can at least have a couple of quarters to work with.
Just not good enough. Four quarter effort and the four points will only suffice Joel.
Poor role model and not the right/most positive thing to say.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 31, 2009, 09:55:59 PM
Agree Infamy its almost as if we are happy to stay as close to Geelong as possible before we inevitably lose, that way regardless of the margin we can at least have a couple of quarters to work with.
Just not good enough. Four quarter effort and the four points will only suffice Joel.
Poor role model and not the right/most positive thing to say.

i agree

cant believe a comment like that.

just goes to show that we have no hope of winning on Saturday, absolutely none so how the fu.. do some of you expect us supporters to stay positive when we hear crap like that.

Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: mat073 on March 31, 2009, 11:55:53 PM
I dont think that any player should be talking to the media untill the season is back on track.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 01, 2009, 01:30:24 AM
We lost to Carlton by alot.
Carlton are not very good.
Bowden had a bad game.

Out: Bowden
In: Rance
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on April 01, 2009, 09:22:08 AM
We lost to Carlton by alot.
Carlton are not very good.
Bowden Richo Brown, Deledio, Newman, Foley . Tuck, Simmonds, Mcmahon.......all had a bad game

out the whole team
in all the oer experts
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Stripes on April 01, 2009, 09:42:30 AM
We lost to Carlton by alot.
Carlton are not very good.
Bowden Richo Brown, Deledio, Newman, Foley . Tuck, Simmonds, Mcmahon.......all had a bad game

out the whole team
in all the oer experts

I wouldn't mind a guersey....if I had talent that is.  :shh

Where is Bowden playing anyway? Was it forward or on the wing or where exactly? He has turned into a fix-it man who unfortunately hasn't fixed much of late.  :P

Stripes
(one of the OER experts  ;))
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Chuck17 on April 01, 2009, 11:53:45 AM
out the whole team
in all the oer experts

I've been out of the game a few years, but sure I will give it a go, is there a jumper available for someone on the road to Dewism.

Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Ox on April 01, 2009, 11:57:55 AM
We lost to Carlton by alot.
Carlton are not very good.
Bowden had a bad game.

Out: Bowden
In: Rance


Where's Connors ?
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Stripes on April 01, 2009, 01:12:13 PM
We lost to Carlton by alot.
Carlton are not very good.
Bowden had a bad game.

Out: Bowden
In: Rance


Where's Connors ?

Recovering from an injury and very underdone in terms of fitness at the moment. Has struggled recently to get through a preseason to build a season on. Shame - has a lot of talent just needs to become more team orientated IMO.

Stripes
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 01, 2009, 01:13:38 PM
Where's Connors ?

Believe he willplay for Coburg this weekend, had a hand injury picked up in Shep IIRC
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Mr Magic on April 01, 2009, 04:09:29 PM
out the whole team
in all the oer experts

I've been out of the game a few years, but sure I will give it a go, is there a jumper available for someone on the road to Dewism.



Could hardly have done much worse.
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 02, 2009, 02:21:11 PM
We lost to Carlton by alot.
Carlton are not very good.
Bowden had a bad game.

Out: Bowden
In: Rance


Where's Connors ?

Good question
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: tigersalive on April 02, 2009, 02:43:57 PM
We lost to Carlton by alot.
Carlton are not very good.
Bowden had a bad game.

Out: Bowden
In: Rance


Where's Connors ?

Good question

That was already answered.  ;)
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Beren on April 02, 2009, 02:54:44 PM

What I like least about Bowden's comments is him only talking about trying to be competitive this week, not trying to win

What question was he asked?
In what context was this reply quoted?

I don't believe that people still, in this day and age, judge others on what a journalist or sub editor sees fit to print. ::)
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Ox on April 02, 2009, 03:16:19 PM


That was already answered.  ;)

Wouldn't want to put you out in any way TA...... :wallywink
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Ramps on April 02, 2009, 04:32:31 PM
Bowdens remarks show why we arent successful. In life people start out to win or achieve a goal or an ambition, at RFC we have experienced players who just wanna compete lol ... what a joke. It would be like having the opportunity to root a supermodel, but deciding youll leave after the first drink...  :lol
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Tigermonk on April 02, 2009, 06:28:20 PM
lol having a good laugh at some of you wanting to kill bowden off after round 1
he was hardly on the ground last week
Blame Wallace he set the side out & his the only one to blame
looks like l be defending my hero again this year  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Infamy on April 02, 2009, 07:04:54 PM
Hardly on the ground? No, just hardly sighted

He was given worst on ground by MMM
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Tigermonk on April 02, 2009, 07:15:52 PM
Cut the rubbish
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on April 02, 2009, 07:26:23 PM
Hardly on the ground? No, just hardly sighted

He was given worst on ground by MMM

MMM are a bunch of morons, and so are those who believe all the tripe they say
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Infamy on April 02, 2009, 07:32:55 PM
Doesn't matter what you think of MMM, Bowden was complete crap
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: TigerTime on April 02, 2009, 07:37:18 PM
Doesn't matter what you think of MMM, Bowden was complete crap

so wa 95% of the team and the coaching staff, so your point is?
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Tigermonk on April 02, 2009, 07:37:22 PM
whole team was crap l dont care who rates who its pretty hard when all are crap
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Infamy on April 02, 2009, 07:55:29 PM
Doesn't matter what you think of MMM, Bowden was complete crap

so wa 95% of the team and the coaching staff, so your point is?
My point it that he's been crap for longer than the others
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Tigermonk on April 02, 2009, 08:39:08 PM
thats what you say
he did more good for the club showing the younger players how to play under preasure & what to do at them moments than lose the game
he won games for the club taking marks in defence,  putting his body on the line like he has done all them years
he is still out there because he is the required player & thats good enough for the supporters who back him
not to mention l prefer to see him at Tigerland than being in a skunks jumper
Bowden will play 300 games for the club so what you have got to say about him means nothing
hope he plays a blinder this week & shoves it up your ass
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 02, 2009, 08:51:42 PM
Thanks TM I hope he has 25 possessions in a passive defensive type game where he lingers next to a marking ruckman to take the easy handball. Holds the ball up from a defensive mark for 45 seconds or until all our loose players are manned up then he kicks it 15 metres down the line only to get it back for the next possie, and then watch Cam Mooney take a strong mark whilst Bowden has a go at a 2nd year player who should have laid a better tackle. Then if we are fortunate enough to lose by 83 points again we can't blame Joel as he was a stalwart in defence with 25 possessions and close to 100% efficiency compared to last week.

Bowden is a fraud of a player.
Bowden is a fraud of a public speaker.
His conference on Tuesday was nothing short of embarassing to the type of footy club we have bred at RFC and the fact that he said what he said and he is the public speaker for the club. Its not just alarming its absoluting mindblowing. :whistle


Nothing personal to you TM.Just my opinion on Bowden and the sorry on and off field state of affairs regarding our players. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Tigermonk on April 02, 2009, 09:02:26 PM
well lets hope he has a fast blinding game  ;D  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: tigersalive on April 02, 2009, 11:18:58 PM
Thanks TM I hope he has 25 possessions in a passive defensive type game where he lingers next to a marking ruckman to take the easy handball. Holds the ball up from a defensive mark for 45 seconds or until all our loose players are manned up then he kicks it 15 metres down the line only to get it back for the next possie, and then watch Cam Mooney take a strong mark whilst Bowden has a go at a 2nd year player who should have laid a better tackle. Then if we are fortunate enough to lose by 83 points again we can't blame Joel as he was a stalwart in defence with 25 possessions and close to 100% efficiency compared to last week.

Bowden is a fraud of a player.
Bowden is a fraud of a public speaker.
His conference on Tuesday was nothing short of embarassing to the type of footy club we have bred at RFC and the fact that he said what he said and he is the public speaker for the club. Its not just alarming its absoluting mindblowing. :whistle


Nothing personal to you TM.Just my opinion on Bowden and the sorry on and off field state of affairs regarding our players. :thumbsup

Brackets/Ox/RDT would be proud of that post.  ;D
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Tigermonk on April 03, 2009, 12:08:56 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 03, 2009, 07:16:58 AM


That was already answered.  ;)

Wouldn't want to put you out in any way TA...... :wallywink

But I answered it CDA,[]())([]  :'( :'(

Connors is playing this week for Coburg has been out injured with a hand injury that he sustained in Shepparton
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: wayne on April 03, 2009, 08:52:55 AM
You're not Joel are you TM??  :lol
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Stripes on April 03, 2009, 09:55:17 AM
Thanks TM I hope he has 25 possessions in a passive defensive type game where he lingers next to a marking ruckman to take the easy handball. Holds the ball up from a defensive mark for 45 seconds or until all our loose players are manned up then he kicks it 15 metres down the line only to get it back for the next possie, and then watch Cam Mooney take a strong mark whilst Bowden has a go at a 2nd year player who should have laid a better tackle. Then if we are fortunate enough to lose by 83 points again we can't blame Joel as he was a stalwart in defence with 25 possessions and close to 100% efficiency compared to last week.

Bowden is a fraud of a player.
Bowden is a fraud of a public speaker.
His conference on Tuesday was nothing short of embarassing to the type of footy club we have bred at RFC and the fact that he said what he said and he is the public speaker for the club. Its not just alarming its absoluting mindblowing. :whistle


Nothing personal to you TM.Just my opinion on Bowden and the sorry on and off field state of affairs regarding our players. :thumbsup

Very good post Tucky. Bowden saved his career last year by capitulating on the rest of the team hard work and coming in at the end of the game and completing some last minute, eye-catching 'heroics'. The rest of those games and the season he did very little.

More-so than any of our other senior players time is catching up with Joel and he has lost the speed to compete as anything other than an impact player.

Expect the trend of him having very little game time to continue with this being his last season at the club.

Stripes
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Tigermonk on April 03, 2009, 12:45:56 PM
You're not Joel are you TM??  :lol

Joel dont have time to sit on forums & be berated by his so called Tiger supporters
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: Tigermonk on April 03, 2009, 12:55:53 PM
Thanks TM I hope he has 25 possessions in a passive defensive type game where he lingers next to a marking ruckman to take the easy handball. Holds the ball up from a defensive mark for 45 seconds or until all our loose players are manned up then he kicks it 15 metres down the line only to get it back for the next possie, and then watch Cam Mooney take a strong mark whilst Bowden has a go at a 2nd year player who should have laid a better tackle. Then if we are fortunate enough to lose by 83 points again we can't blame Joel as he was a stalwart in defence with 25 possessions and close to 100% efficiency compared to last week.

Bowden is a fraud of a player.
Bowden is a fraud of a public speaker.
His conference on Tuesday was nothing short of embarassing to the type of footy club we have bred at RFC and the fact that he said what he said and he is the public speaker for the club. Its not just alarming its absoluting mindblowing. :whistle


Nothing personal to you TM.Just my opinion on Bowden and the sorry on and off field state of affairs regarding our players. :thumbsup

Very good post Tucky. Bowden saved his career last year by capitulating on the rest of the team hard work and coming in at the end of the game and completing some last minute, eye-catching 'heroics'. The rest of those games and the season he did very little.

More-so than any of our other senior players time is catching up with Joel and he has lost the speed to compete as anything other than an impact player.

Expect the trend of him having very little game time to continue with this being his last season at the club.

Stripes

do you know anything about football
all players become slower with the punishment of 10 years in the game at the top level & with heavy training & spit from supporters of Richmond
yes they become slower but also become very wise, thats why they are needed around the younger players so to teach them.
Note that many players in their last few season have good seasons because they show out more through thier skills ;D
Bowden  has always been a slow starter & he will find his feet soon enough or he will get the ass like any footballer
his played 1 limited game this season & the supporters here are spitting at him already
if some of you had brains to back your keyboard stuff you would see its the coach who is damaging the players & its really funny how other coaches say they loved playing Richmond
Frawley has a better record than Supercoach Wallace now thats pining the tale on the donkey  ;D
Not to mention Wallace is the person who built & has control on this list of players.
Its not Joel Bowdens fault that Wallace is a known coach for not being able to develope young players  :rollin
Sheeds is coming to the rescue  :pray
Title: Re: Tigers just want to compete: Bowden
Post by: 1965 on April 03, 2009, 01:15:08 PM

We need an experienced player down back to marshall the troops.

This was one of Wayne Campbell's strengths.

ATM Joel is the player best suited to this role.

'65