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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Jackstar is back on July 26, 2009, 06:45:36 PM
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What does he have to do to get a contract for next year.
Would think this, IF he gets another game next week. He needs to kick 3 goals a game till the end of the year, otherwise its all over I am afraid.
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He'll be at his Chapel St store selling designer t-shirts full time.
Forget about it boys.
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I agree, with the injury to Hislop, Brown will probabaly play again next week
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I think the only reason he's playing is to see if we can get anything for him at the trade table
I can't see him being a Tiger next year one way or the other, Morton & Nahas have passed him
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dun think he can be kept on. with the older players, they need to show that they're actually significantly better than the younger boys. and as far as i'm concerned, only cuz and richo fit in that group. the rest dont' and dont' have a future.
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Sadly injury has robbed Browny and us of his best :(. He's slowed down and lost penetration in his kicking. He still has the footy smarts so close to goal he takes a good small defender which makes it easier for Nahas and Morton but I'd think this is Browny's final year. Only Cuz and Richo will be the over 30s on our list next year IMO.
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Simple for mine, he has to kick goals consistently to the end of the year and as Jack said three per game should do it
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Simple for mine, he has to kick goals consistently to the end of the year and as Jack said three per game should do it
Would agree there
I think it will also depend on how he comes up this week. No point in him playing one week then missing 2 or 3
he certainly ran out of puff in the final qtr ;D
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1 year contract, he needs more game time & shows he still has that sly ability & quickness when it comes to making the quick decision.
concerns are his kicking distance & could be a libility when needed to kick a winning goal to grasp a game just like Kane Johnson failed to do.
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LMAO.
How fkcin bad was Kane Johnson - OMG!
I can't believe how crap he was.
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1 year contract, he needs more game time & shows he still has that sly ability & quickness when it comes to making the quick decision.
concerns are his kicking distance & could be a libility when needed to kick a winning goal to grasp a game just like Kane Johnson failed to do.
Our average age next year would probably be the highest in the comp if we kept all the old farts you want to
Or do you want to get rid of Richo & Cousins, the only two worth keeping?
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1 year contract, he needs more game time & shows he still has that sly ability & quickness when it comes to making the quick decision.
concerns are his kicking distance & could be a libility when needed to kick a winning goal to grasp a game just like Kane Johnson failed to do.
Our average age next year would probably be the highest in the comp if we kept all the old farts you want to
Or do you want to get rid of Richo & Cousins, the only two worth keeping?
The only older players l would keep are those who have a imput nearly every week. Cousins is the best player on our list by a mile you would offer him 2 years. Richardson l would retire. Simmonds is retiring. Bowden is going anyway & will go into the draft & Johnson has gone. That leaves Nathan Brown who has 5 weeks to stamp his future & if he cant kick goals from outside 50 metres then l would retire him. Injured players are not a option anymore they should be traded or delisted. Polak, Pettifer, Coughlan. That is a possible 8 players cut from the list. Then l would chase the home sick Brent Connerly from Fremantle rookie list at 202 cm & still growing, was talking to him Saturday morning at the local footy. l would chase James Blaser from Casey Scorpions who is a tuff midfielder with good skills & can play most utility positions forward or defence & can kick goals under preasure. Has played alot of finals football & played at TAC level & also been coach by former Richmond players Brian Leys & Adrian Hickmott & currently under Peter German. Blaser has been playing senior foorball since he was 15 years old. He comes from a good football background.
Getting back to you saying l want to keep the old farts is not correct. Bowden would be in our top 22 players & should be in the side playing.
When he goes end of season so be it but there are the ones l listed above that should be gone also.
There you have my true opinion on the issue l hope this helps & closes it once & for all cause l'm tired of going over the same things.
My argument is the way Richmond treat & handle long serving players. & the constant bad decision making.
If they just dropped Gasper & said nothing he would have stuck around still helping out teaching the backline till the end of that year & everyone would have benefit from it. If he was told to leave at seasons end there would have been no problem & the players would have had the summer to get over it instead of copping it early in the season destroying the morale in the playing group & around the club.
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Subject to the next 5 weeks...he should get a contract for next year...
Richo Cuz and Brown to go on...Sugar Bowden and Snake to retire for me.
When Brown gets the pill he is still classy...like the kick on his right foot yesterday...very smart footballer...
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Subject to the next 5 weeks...he should get a contract for next year...
Richo Cuz and Brown to go on...Sugar Bowden and Snake to retire for me.
When Brown gets the pill he is still classy...like the kick on his right foot yesterday...very smart footballer...
its ok that he hits up targets but we need players who can kick goals from 50+ metres on the run
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Maybe 1 year, minimum wages, IF he kicks 3 goals a week.
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He'd have to come home like Kingston Town in '82.
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He'd have to come home like Kingston Town in '82.
In the Cox Plate cos Guerners Lane pipped him in the Melbourne Cup. :thumbsup
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its ok that he hits up targets but we need players who can kick goals from 50+ metres on the run
He kicked a goal being front and square of the pack...i dont think he needs to kick it from 50+ metres on the run...Not many players can do that anyway...I think his disposal and hitting targets and setting up the other forwards would be enough...My only concerns are his body holdining up and defensive pressure from the forward line...
Another year for mine...
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Subject to the next 5 weeks...he should get a contract for next year...
Richo Cuz and Brown to go on...Sugar Bowden and Snake to retire for me.
When Brown gets the pill he is still classy...like the kick on his right foot yesterday...very smart footballer...
its ok that he hits up targets but we need players who can kick goals from 50+ metres on the run
Like Joel Bowden used to circa 1999-2000?
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He'd have to come home like Kingston Town in '82.
lol
He'd be lucky to run a place in a Tatura maiden atm
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If he can finish the season 1 year deal
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In the Cox Plate cos Guerners Lane pipped him in the Melbourne Cup. :thumbsup
Yep Cox Plate of course http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBA8UxiSUJI
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its ok that he hits up targets but we need players who can kick goals from 50+ metres on the run
He kicked a goal being front and square of the pack...i dont think he needs to kick it from 50+ metres on the run...Not many players can do that anyway...I think his disposal and hitting targets and setting up the other forwards would be enough...My only concerns are his body holdining up and defensive pressure from the forward line...
Another year for mine...
At my age l can still kick 50m on the run both sides, ;D so current AFL players have no excuse to not be able to kick it on thier natrual side 50m at full pace.
If a player cant kick goals from 50m on the run they should not be playing senior football AT ANY LEVEL
When a player like Nathan Brown who l know can kick 50m on both sides, my concern is that he is still not 100% fit or his confidence is shot because he is worried about agravating the injuries his carried. If that is the case he should be playing for Coburg till his 100% fit & get his confidence in his body right mentaly. You cannot carry mentaly weak players.
Goes back to what l say in other threads that Richmond has a habit playing unfit players who cannot carry out thier job for 4 quarters & this affects the overall performance of the team because other players are not getting the required rest carrying injured players & become extremely fatigued.
Is another way clubs can also hide tanking by playing unfit players & using it as a excuse for having no or limited interchange to rest players.
Its amazing how players go down with what look like serious injuries when the game is in the balance only to see them ok at the final siren or when walking out to thier cars after a game with no limp & in a hurry, makes you wonder. ;D
In any case what l see of Nathan Brown l would offer him a 1 year contract if his final games are more than just average, his is a great player to have around the younger group to teach them.
Its also a great credit to him for getting back playing AFL after a shocking injury :clapping which many players with that type of injury are lucky to even play football again.
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He'd have to come home like Kingston Town in '82.
lol
He'd be lucky to run a place in a Tatura maiden atm
Healsville picnics
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Tigermonk...there are many players that can't kick 50m out and are still great afl players....Saint Harvey is one example...
But I take your point...Brown used to be able to do it...so for him not to do it now means either not fit or not willing to risk injurying his groin or lack of confidence...
For me, subject to the next 5 weeks...1 more year on his contract....His presence in the fwd line means he also takes away a good defender...meaning it should open up more oportunities for Morton and Nahas...
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I just don't think he offers anything to the team at the moment other than taking the place of a young forward. He was once the best forward in the AFL but now he is a mere shadow of his former self. It was sad to see him always be the second tackler and get a goal from a give rather than through his own efforts. He is not performing as well as any of our other forwards and at best would only have another year left.
I just don't see the value to the club in keeping him. Browny is not a leader so he doesn't teach the young fellows. He struggles with the defensive side of his game. He does not screen, block, shepherd or work for his team mates (albeit last game he tried). He has lost his lead speed amd lateral movement which allowed him to find space on his opponents in the past and he has lost his kicking peneration.
I just can't see any reason to keep him other than to say thankyou for the 2005 season. :'(
I think it's time to concentrate fully on his fashion label
Stripes
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Tigermonk...there are many players that can't kick 50m out and are still great afl players....Saint Harvey is one example...
Robert Harvey had no problem kicking 50 on both feet. Harvey was a player who hit people up perfect thats why he played so many years his fitness, cunningness, & read the game 100%
Was the best footballer in the past 20 years by far & nicest bloke in the world to meet
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I just don't think he offers anything to the team at the moment other than taking the place of a young forward. He was once the best forward in the AFL but now he is a mere shadow of his former self. It was sad to see him always be the second tackler and get a goal from a give rather than through his own efforts. He is not performing as well as any of our other forwards and at best would only have another year left.
I just don't see the value to the club in keeping him. Browny is not a leader so he doesn't teach the young fellows. He struggles with the defensive side of his game. He does not screen, block, shepherd or work for his team mates (albeit last game he tried). He has lost his lead speed amd lateral movement which allowed him to find space on his opponents in the past and he has lost his kicking peneration.
I just can't see any reason to keep him other than to say thankyou for the 2005 season. :'(
I think it's time to concentrate fully on his fashion label
Stripes
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.....His presence in the fwd line means he also takes away a good defender...
Not so sure about that Con. Nowadays I think he is more of a liability in that he is targeted by a 'run off' defender that can exploit his defensive deficiencies. Personally I think his time has come - was a great footballer but isn't up to senior AFL standard any more.
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I beleive the form of Robin Nahas will result in the death of Nathan Browns AFL career.
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What does he have to do to get a contract for next year.
Would think this, IF he gets another game next week. He needs to kick 3 goals a game till the end of the year, otherwise its all over I am afraid.
yep thats about it :shh
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He might still be worth something as a trade but I belive there might be a glut of over 28 year olds on the market this year.
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from the Herald-Sun..
Nathan Brown will play his second game back from a groin injury for the Tigers against Melbourne on Sunday.
"He's great and in good spirits," David King said.
"Obviously playing at the (AFL) level for the first time for a while he pulled up a little bit sore, but he's out there and ready to go again for this week.
"He's got a point to prove I think, Nathan, he's got that look in his eye again. I can't wait to see him out there again this week because he makes a massive difference to us when he's playing well."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25860600-19742,00.html