One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on August 15, 2009, 08:14:16 PM
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I'll honestly put my hand up and say that pre 2009 I'd put my clothes on the line that Newman would be our next captain and be a superb leader.
I'm now on the fence. I'm a Newman fan and it makes me a bit ill when I think about it. Can't imagine what the Newman Negatives would think..
Seeing as we've given that many face lifts to the club over the past years would it be a disaster taking off his captaincy of would it be a disaster keeping him leading the group after such a horrible year.
I'm willing to have an opinion on anything but this one I think I stay on the fence. I have no idea. Maybe trade Newman, Tuck and show anyone over 25 the door and give the captaincy to Brett. Maybe? Or even Richie? Ge the media would have a field day.
We are down on confidence but the leadership really does seem to falling on deaf ears.
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what leadership! ::)
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Would have him at the top of our "To Trade" list
You have to give something of value to get anything of value in return and Newman would be one of them
Perhaps to Carlton to play with his mate Fev
I actually like Newman as a player too, I was happy with his selection as captain also. I just think he'd gain us something at the trade table and not miss him that much from a team structure point of view. He's too old to be part of our success and he's a beautiful kick so won't be ruled out by most clubs. We'd miss a fit Foley much more than we would Newman.
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At 27 years of age he wont be around for our next big tilt. Its time to trade. Thats the reality of it.
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has had an ordinary year newy, how many times has he featured in best players, 2 or 3 perhaps...performed much better last yr....with a new coach, I wouldnt bet on him surviving as skipper
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worse than Johnson
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Last year after the Melbourne Round 22 game I mentioned that he should be traded to get a first round draft pick and on the back of 8 wins in the second half of the year was hounded down with the excuses that he was 26 and in the age group of what we were lacking 23-28 yr olds.
Should be traded this year whilst he has value. Would be great off half back at a club like who wants to top up their list for a tilt at a flag. Why? He won't have "leadership issues" burdening him. He'll be able to focus solely on footy.
When blokes who should not be captain are given the job it's a poor reflection of where the club is at. He had Johnson preceding him.
Give captaincy to Richo for a year or give it to Lids. Newman shows no on field leadership and has no prescence on the field. It's like hitting someone with wet newspaper. Him being put up for trade in my opinion has nothing to do with his leadership deficiencies its just an observation I have made and a means to an end for the future of the RFC post season 2009. :thumbsup
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Thought Newman would excell being Captain & was my choice to get it.
l was so wrong :chuck his gone backwards
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Thought Newman would excell being Captain & was my choice to get it.
l was so wrong :chuck his gone backwards
Well that makes two brilliant minds who can admit that
Never thought anyone would be worse than Sugar but hard to make an argument for Chris
I'm sure he does stuff off field that everyone respects but Cuz is the true leader out on the field I'm afraid.
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Thought Newman would excell being Captain & was my choice to get it.
l was so wrong :chuck his gone backwards
Well that makes two brilliant minds who can admit that
Never thought anyone would be worse than Sugar but hard to make an argument for Chris
I'm sure he does stuff off field that everyone respects but Cuz is the true leader out on the field I'm afraid.
Make it 3 brilliant minds :thumbsup
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l mean fair dinkum Chris Newman skills & thinking are clouded.
He needs to get Fevola out of his ear telling him to go play for Carlton or eff his mentor off ;D
New captain next year please Ben Cousins
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One thing that has bothered me for some time now is why so many of our draft picks play for coburg reserves for great lengths of time.These guys are the elite for the age group and yet they are sent to play with barely suburban footballers at coburg reserves,surely their chance of developing at that level is zero
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One thing that has bothered me for some time now is why so many of our draft picks play for coburg reserves for great lengths of time.These guys are the elite for the age group and yet they are sent to play with barely suburban footballers at coburg reserves,surely their chance of developing at that level is zero
look around the forum & you find l clearly been talking about this for several years.
only thing is Richmond are so dumb they cant see this hence our skills & work-rate
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One thing that has bothered me for some time now is why so many of our draft picks play for coburg reserves for great lengths of time.These guys are the elite for the age group and yet they are sent to play with barely suburban footballers at coburg reserves,surely their chance of developing at that level is zero
Not saying it's the only reason but one reason is that because we are an 'affiliate' club with Coburg then we can usually only have 12 (I think it is) players from our senior list in the team. It's the main 'pro' for having a Richmond VFL side.
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One thing that has bothered me for some time now is why so many of our draft picks play for coburg reserves for great lengths of time.These guys are the elite for the age group and yet they are sent to play with barely suburban footballers at coburg reserves,surely their chance of developing at that level is zero
Not saying it's the only reason but one reason is that because we are an 'affiliate' club with Coburg then we can usually only have 12 (I think it is) players from our senior list in the team. It's the main 'pro' for having a Richmond VFL side.
yes true Smokey but Richmond should be looking after injured players resting then & playing the listed players in the Senior Coburg side only
VFL reseves level should be focused on playing only Coburg players otherwise when our affiliation is over Coburg will collapse & the focus of joining with them to help them survive will arise again.
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worse than Johnson
well considering KJ won a B&F and finished top 4 on ea other year during his stewardship, thats no revelation there partner ::)
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i must be stupid as i knew he would not make the grade as a leader and captain
he is not accountable and never has been, shows no respect for his opponent
he does not galvanise the group and never has
he does not inspire and never has
when he walks he does not command or demand respect
he is fevolas best friend
i rest my case
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He should be traded but wont be :banghead
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I cant really think who stands out as another likely candidate...I said at the time it should have been richo...dont be suprised if a new coach does as much :shh
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As a massive Newman fan, I agree. The list is more important. If we can get pick between 15-20 I'd take it.
20-30 - Think about it
anything over 30 I'd keep Chris.
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One thing that has bothered me for some time now is why so many of our draft picks play for coburg reserves for great lengths of time.These guys are the elite for the age group and yet they are sent to play with barely suburban footballers at coburg reserves,surely their chance of developing at that level is zero
Um perhaps they're boys with developing bodies?
Just how many of our draft picks are playing for Coburg reserves for 'great lengths of time' anyway? Alroy is in the seniors, Putt's had a few games at senior level. Browne spoke in our room yesterday and believe me he's still a boy - and as a ruckman I'm happy to see him learn his craft under the guidance of coaches.
You're also putting down players who play in that comp.
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One thing that has bothered me for some time now is why so many of our draft picks play for coburg reserves for great lengths of time.These guys are the elite for the age group and yet they are sent to play with barely suburban footballers at coburg reserves,surely their chance of developing at that level is zero
Um perhaps they're boys with developing bodies?
Just how many of our draft picks are playing for Coburg reserves for 'great lengths of time' anyway? Alroy is in the seniors, Putt's had a few games at senior level. Browne spoke in our room yesterday and believe me he's still a boy - and as a ruckman I'm happy to see him learn his craft under the guidance of coaches.
You're also putting down players who play in that comp.
Putt who???? Is he that 200cm, 90 odd kg kid who has been on our list for two years???
If a kid isn't good enough to get a game at Coburg when drafted then DON'T draft them. If other part time footballers are getting a game before him then maybe alarm bells should go off!!! Put them on a rookie list at best.