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Title: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Ramps on August 18, 2009, 08:02:12 PM
Richmond as a club is in an awful mess for mine, do you guys honestly believe that any of the four guys going for our job can turn Richmond around or is Richmond a club that needed a huge name to save what could be a sinking ship football wise.

In all honesty what do you guys reckon? Personally I think that none of the four will succeed. Not even Hardwick who I want to get the job. We needed to get the chequebook out and pay Malthouse whatever he wanted- probably close to $1 million a year for 4 years. That in reality was the only real solution for us.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 18, 2009, 08:07:33 PM
Struth Ramps

I just posted a reply in the other thread that would sit beautifully on this thread  :P

The success of the next coach whoever it is will be dependant on the one thing you posted in another thread and that is unity at this footy club

If the bloke gets the total support of not just the club but all the other stakeholders they have some hope

Unfortunately, just from a supporters perspective whoever they select is not going to enjoy total support   
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 18, 2009, 08:07:57 PM
Forgive me all for blowing my own trumpet as I am copying my post from another thread but I felt it had validity in this thread also. Here goes again :thumbsup

In my humble opinion Hardwick is the best of the four from a footballing perspective, but as I have previously stated in other threads the problems at Richmond are not merely confined to the coaches box and playing field. As we are patently aware they run much deeper and are so deep rooted to the fabric of the club on and off the field that it won't take a new coach and a few close allies to change this.

What the RFC needs to do is fin that perfect fit for the club that will unite everybody whether it is a coach, a new Pres, a CEO whoever. This powerbroker will have all the power in his hand and all and sundry will adhere. Any other appointment will merely be a token appointment. Lamentably I feel these candidates true worth will be lost to us in the current environment at Punt Rd. I hope time will prove me wrong but given the last 27 years I'm not counting on it .    

 
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 18, 2009, 08:08:59 PM
Struth Ramps

I just posted a reply in the other thread that would sit beautifully on this thread  :P



Ditto WP  :clapping
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 18, 2009, 08:09:25 PM
Might as well add this here

As you know Ramps I have my preference out of the final 4 and I've always had an open mind about Richardson

But as for the other 2....  well the bridesmaid I've had question marks on him all along and Hinkley doesn't grab my attention either. Having just read Mark Thompson's comments about him being a practical joker etc the alarm bells are ringing over him too now   

It's funny I see North as a joke of a club but I will admit to having just a ounce of respect for them taking the punt on Brad Scott... it's a bold appointment, a bit daring if you like and that's what I actually want Richmond to do, make a tough call, a bold call.

2 out of the 4 for me at least just look like the predictable or even "soft/obvious" choices and my gut tells me that isn't what this Club needs
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Ramps on August 18, 2009, 08:10:49 PM
Struth Ramps

I just posted a reply in the other thread that would sit beautifully on this thread  :P

The success of the next coach whoever it is will be dependant on the one thing you posted in another thread and that is unity at this footy club

If the bloke gets the total support of not just the club but all the other stakeholders they have some hope

Unfortunately, just from a supporters perspective whoever they select is not going to enjoy total support   

Thats why I dont think this will turn out well. Only Malthouse could have unified the ranks. For the last few weeks supporters have been taking sides- me included, and whilst most of us will move on, there will be some who at the first sign of trouble will come out and say they should have taken Hardwick or they should have taken Hinkley or Rawlings. I dont think any of the 4 can carry the Richmond mentality. Only Malthouse would have done it.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: gonzo on August 18, 2009, 08:11:48 PM
Reincarnate Graeme Richmond
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Ramps on August 18, 2009, 08:14:23 PM
Reincarnate Graeme Richmond

Another Gonzo Masterpiece I see  ;D.

Where you  been Gonzo havent seen you around for a while?
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: yellowandback on August 18, 2009, 08:15:37 PM
Forgive me all for blowing my own trumpet as I am copying my post from another thread but I felt it had validity in this thread also. Here goes again :thumbsup

In my humble opinion Hardwick is the best of the four from a footballing perspective, but as I have previously stated in other threads the problems at Richmond are not merely confined to the coaches box and playing field. As we are patently aware they run much deeper and are so deep rooted to the fabric of the club on and off the field that it won't take a new coach and a few close allies to change this.

What the RFC needs to do is fin that perfect fit for the club that will unite everybody whether it is a coach, a new Pres, a CEO whoever. This powerbroker will have all the power in his hand and all and sundry will adhere. Any other appointment will merely be a token appointment. Lamentably I feel these candidates true worth will be lost to us in the current environment at Punt Rd. I hope time will prove me wrong but given the last 27 years I'm not counting on it .    

 


I get the feeling that Benny Gale may be the galvanizing personality our club has needed for quite a while. I do think that in the spirit of "wiping the slate clean" a new Prez would also help the overall cause. No offence to Gary March but is a more symbolic change that the individual.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: gonzo on August 18, 2009, 08:25:09 PM
The sleeping Giant as we are constantly referred to has developed sleep apnia.  The Richmond Football Club continues to loose breath on a regular basis.  It has been laying dorment for an awful long time.  The problem the club has is that there is no-one out there to take the reins. NO-ONE. Not even Malthouse can save this club.  :sleep
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 18, 2009, 08:34:37 PM
I agree with everyone
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: bojangles17 on August 18, 2009, 09:22:52 PM
whats become fairly clear in recent times is success doesnt come by accident...those clubs that have had a sustained run in the finals have reputed recruiting resource...a track record in player development and state of the art facilities. Without any of these, Norm smith would fail relative to the sides that are rich in all of these areas. We have made alot of ground in these key areas...whoever the NEW coach is will have all the support necessary to progress...the same couldnt be said for spud and first couple of years of TW...so quit the panic and anxiety that has set in and review how the good sides have built up to where they are currently placed...think you'll find that in NO case did some magician come in and wave a wand...Hope that clears it up :shh
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Stripes on August 18, 2009, 09:31:33 PM
I think their is hope out their and potentially with one of these perspective coaches. We need something different, a different outlook and a different game plan. Copying off other successful teams, coaching styles and game plans has caused us nothing but pain. TW tried to model our list off Geelong and then attempted to adopt Hawthorns Zone preseason (he wasn't alone there though  :shh) which has got us to the point where we are currently.

While some say we need to start again, I refuse to believe that. Regardless of how strong people rate our list and players we still have youth and time on our side. Our players just need development and confidence, our team structure and loyalty to each other, our club stability and unity. This is the order is must occur in and the process that will bring success.

It has to start with the coach and a coach who can work with our list, get the best out of them and then instill loyalty and a team first mentality into each and every one of them.

For mine, Richardson appears the best choice in terms of developing our list, Hinkley the best in terms of tactiics and Harwick somewhere in the middle. So, depending on who is chosen, will let us know what is most valued by the club and what the feel we most need.

Given where I believe we sit as a club and our current state of development, even though I know Hardwick, my choice would be Richardson because I think he will get the most out of what we have.

Stripes
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Ramps on August 18, 2009, 10:14:49 PM
I think we are stuffed. Its going to be a long long time between drinks. 29 years and counting ....... :'(
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Infamy on August 18, 2009, 10:20:22 PM
Its pretty easy to be pessimistic at the moment, but it wouldn't surprise me for things to turn around quicker than other think. We have a young core that's still maturing, similar to the Hawks back in 2004. No one rated their kids coming through, but a disciplined coach brought them into the side and had them playing team football pretty quickly, despite a few floggings here and there.

The fact Hardwick was part of that makes me lean towards him more than others. I certainly think the Hawks overachieved early, however they certainly play hard, team football, I hate the zone and hope that's not Hardwick wants to implement at Richmond, however that type of discipline is something our players should aspire to.

As for the off field stuff, I'm planning to win Tattslotto or Powerball and will use the money to disband the coteries who think their money buys them power and influence over the club. Be patient, I'm working on it ;)
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Tigermonk on August 19, 2009, 09:25:37 AM


As for the off field stuff, I'm planning to win Tattslotto or Powerball and will use the money to disband the coteries who think their money buys them power and influence over the club. Be patient, I'm working on it ;)

 :rollin Who you going to give the money too " The President"  ;D the people who run the club to get in the door  :lol They will open there arms up for a sucker like you  :lol come in Infamy. when your money has been sucked dry,  you get booted out the door which opens for the next sucker like yourself  ;D  If you were a smart man which your clearly not  :lol  you just buy a membership & enjoy going to games & spend your money elsewhere.

Bit of Advise, these buisness people get involved with clubs to bleed money into thier own ventures & of course suck players into investing into thier world or make them blind promises & nothing else
Most of them are bad buisness people looking for ways to recover  ;D take a good look at past Presidents of clubs  ;D get my drift  :lol
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: the_boy_jake on August 19, 2009, 10:10:55 AM

For mine, Richardson appears the best choice in terms of developing our list, Hinkley the best in terms of tactiics and Harwick somewhere in the middle. So, depending on who is chosen, will let us know what is most valued by the club and what the feel we most need.


Stripes is this accepted knowledge?

For me it is clear that Richardson can do a job on his own and that he has a passion and knack for developing young players. His career (EDFL on his own, led the setup of the Collingwood academy, went to help Essendon's youngsters who have come along alright this season) tells you this.

I'm sure Hinkley is a wonderful assistant but haven't read that he is especially tactically strong, or stronger than say Richardson or Hardwick.

I don't know anything about Hardwick other than what I saw as a player and what I read in the papers ( :help), but again I assume he is also a very good assistant.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: sugark on August 19, 2009, 10:22:28 AM
I for one don't believe it is all doom and gloom.  Our list isn't as bad as everyone makes out, our recruiting up until 3 years ago was ordinary and thats what we are paying dearly for now.  We are paying dearly for the fact that we made a prelim in 01, people believed we weren't far off making a gf and we recruited poorly as a result.

Our recruiting in the last 3 years has been very good, we have some gems that will get better with experience.

One of our single biggest issues is that Terry came to the club with a clear picture and plan in his mind of what was needed to win  premiership.  Unfortunately during that time the game changed dramatically in terms of the amoutn of pressure applied all over the ground, rolling zones, defensive mindsets.  Terry's idea of speed, run, carry with no real defensive emphasis was blown out the door but unfortunately our style of play didnt change or adapt to how the successful sides were playing, that relentless ability to work hard for one another, apply pressure at every contest rather than conceding contest, having that killer instinct in every facet of our game.

These things are things that can be introduced into any group with the right person at the helm, you cant tell me that Collingwood have a team of stars...they are well drilled and want to work hard for each other.

Introducing someone like a Hardwick or a Hinkley or Richardson for that matter with a solid and intense pre season at working on the team things rather than the flairy individual efforts.  Setting team standards that wont be deviated from, instilling a level of hardness that wont be compromised regardless of the situation.  These things can be instilled over a summer period.

For these reasons I don't believe the Richmond job is insurmountable, we just all need to be on the same page and have the right mindset from the top down and it will happen. 

This is a proud club with a group of young guys that don't wish to be the whipping boys that they have been this year and are certainly up for the hard work that is required to turn it around.  Sure we will need to cull a few and have a crack at recruiting a few different types and also drafting for the future.

It can happen, and I am confident that it will happen.......

Lets all get behind whoever is appointed and watch this once proud unit return as a force.  Wont there be some egg on faces when it happens.........
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Ramps on August 19, 2009, 10:30:19 AM
I for one don't believe it is all doom and gloom.  Our list isn't as bad as everyone makes out, our recruiting up until 3 years ago was ordinary and thats what we are paying dearly for now.  We are paying dearly for the fact that we made a prelim in 01, people believed we weren't far off making a gf and we recruited poorly as a result.

Our recruiting in the last 3 years has been very good, we have some gems that will get better with experience.

One of our single biggest issues is that Terry came to the club with a clear picture and plan in his mind of what was needed to win  premiership.  Unfortunately during that time the game changed dramatically in terms of the amoutn of pressure applied all over the ground, rolling zones, defensive mindsets.  Terry's idea of speed, run, carry with no real defensive emphasis was blown out the door but unfortunately our style of play didnt change or adapt to how the successful sides were playing, that relentless ability to work hard for one another, apply pressure at every contest rather than conceding contest, having that killer instinct in every facet of our game.

These things are things that can be introduced into any group with the right person at the helm, you cant tell me that Collingwood have a team of stars...they are well drilled and want to work hard for each other.

Introducing someone like a Hardwick or a Hinkley or Richardson for that matter with a solid and intense pre season at working on the team things rather than the flairy individual efforts.  Setting team standards that wont be deviated from, instilling a level of hardness that wont be compromised regardless of the situation.  These things can be instilled over a summer period.

For these reasons I don't believe the Richmond job is insurmountable, we just all need to be on the same page and have the right mindset from the top down and it will happen. 

This is a proud club with a group of young guys that don't wish to be the whipping boys that they have been this year and are certainly up for the hard work that is required to turn it around.  Sure we will need to cull a few and have a crack at recruiting a few different types and also drafting for the future.

It can happen, and I am confident that it will happen.......

Lets all get behind whoever is appointed and watch this once proud unit return as a force.  Wont there be some egg on faces when it happens.........

Im happy to support the new coach and Id love for there to be egg on my face and have to come in here and say
fonzy" like "I was wwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooonnnng" but its a massive job and we are pinning our hopes on 2 blokes who are mid 40s and never had a gig before in the big time and never won flags as players at this level, 1 bloke who is late 30s and admitted has seen plenty of success as a player and a 31 year old who is atleast 5 years away from being able to coach his own side at AFL level successfully.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: tigersalive on August 19, 2009, 10:39:21 AM
I for one don't believe it is all doom and gloom.  Our list isn't as bad as everyone makes out, our recruiting up until 3 years ago was ordinary and thats what we are paying dearly for now.  We are paying dearly for the fact that we made a prelim in 01, people believed we weren't far off making a gf and we recruited poorly as a result.

Our recruiting in the last 3 years has been very good, we have some gems that will get better with experience.

One of our single biggest issues is that Terry came to the club with a clear picture and plan in his mind of what was needed to win  premiership.  Unfortunately during that time the game changed dramatically in terms of the amoutn of pressure applied all over the ground, rolling zones, defensive mindsets.  Terry's idea of speed, run, carry with no real defensive emphasis was blown out the door but unfortunately our style of play didnt change or adapt to how the successful sides were playing, that relentless ability to work hard for one another, apply pressure at every contest rather than conceding contest, having that killer instinct in every facet of our game.

These things are things that can be introduced into any group with the right person at the helm, you cant tell me that Collingwood have a team of stars...they are well drilled and want to work hard for each other.

Introducing someone like a Hardwick or a Hinkley or Richardson for that matter with a solid and intense pre season at working on the team things rather than the flairy individual efforts.  Setting team standards that wont be deviated from, instilling a level of hardness that wont be compromised regardless of the situation.  These things can be instilled over a summer period.

For these reasons I don't believe the Richmond job is insurmountable, we just all need to be on the same page and have the right mindset from the top down and it will happen. 

This is a proud club with a group of young guys that don't wish to be the whipping boys that they have been this year and are certainly up for the hard work that is required to turn it around.  Sure we will need to cull a few and have a crack at recruiting a few different types and also drafting for the future.

It can happen, and I am confident that it will happen.......

Lets all get behind whoever is appointed and watch this once proud unit return as a force.  Wont there be some egg on faces when it happens.........

Im happy to support the new coach and Id love for there to be egg on my face and have to come in here and say
fonzy" like "I was wwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooonnnng" but its a massive job and we are pinning our hopes on 2 blokes who are mid 40s and never had a gig before in the big time and never won flags as players at this level, 1 bloke who is late 30s and admitted has seen plenty of success as a player and a 31 year old who is atleast 5 years away from being able to coach his own side at AFL level successfully.

That's on completely face value and looking negatively about their playing careers.  It's lucky they're coaching, hey.  ::)

You need far more than being a premiership player to be a premiership coach.

So how about we show a bit of patience instead of throwing poo at them before they've even started at our club given we are actually finding a coach the way we should have a long time ago.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: the_boy_jake on August 19, 2009, 10:41:11 AM
we are pinning our hopes on 2 blokes who are mid 40s and never had a gig before in the big time and never won flags as players at this level

As I said the other day Ramps, if only Richardson had have been able to get up for the 1990 GF with that collar bone injury sustained in the preliminary. He would be perfect!

Lets be serious on this flags as a player business (if it is a significant factor and I'm not convinced it is) Richardson was a big part of a premiership team. If anything missing out on the GF will make Richardson more determined to succeed as a coach.
 
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Infamy on August 19, 2009, 10:55:36 AM
I for one don't believe it is all doom and gloom.  Our list isn't as bad as everyone makes out, our recruiting up until 3 years ago was ordinary and thats what we are paying dearly for now.  We are paying dearly for the fact that we made a prelim in 01, people believed we weren't far off making a gf and we recruited poorly as a result.

Our recruiting in the last 3 years has been very good, we have some gems that will get better with experience.

One of our single biggest issues is that Terry came to the club with a clear picture and plan in his mind of what was needed to win  premiership.  Unfortunately during that time the game changed dramatically in terms of the amoutn of pressure applied all over the ground, rolling zones, defensive mindsets.  Terry's idea of speed, run, carry with no real defensive emphasis was blown out the door but unfortunately our style of play didnt change or adapt to how the successful sides were playing, that relentless ability to work hard for one another, apply pressure at every contest rather than conceding contest, having that killer instinct in every facet of our game.

These things are things that can be introduced into any group with the right person at the helm, you cant tell me that Collingwood have a team of stars...they are well drilled and want to work hard for each other.

Introducing someone like a Hardwick or a Hinkley or Richardson for that matter with a solid and intense pre season at working on the team things rather than the flairy individual efforts.  Setting team standards that wont be deviated from, instilling a level of hardness that wont be compromised regardless of the situation.  These things can be instilled over a summer period.

For these reasons I don't believe the Richmond job is insurmountable, we just all need to be on the same page and have the right mindset from the top down and it will happen. 

This is a proud club with a group of young guys that don't wish to be the whipping boys that they have been this year and are certainly up for the hard work that is required to turn it around.  Sure we will need to cull a few and have a crack at recruiting a few different types and also drafting for the future.

It can happen, and I am confident that it will happen.......

Lets all get behind whoever is appointed and watch this once proud unit return as a force.  Wont there be some egg on faces when it happens.........

Im happy to support the new coach and Id love for there to be egg on my face and have to come in here and say
fonzy" like "I was wwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooonnnng" but its a massive job and we are pinning our hopes on 2 blokes who are mid 40s and never had a gig before in the big time and never won flags as players at this level, 1 bloke who is late 30s and admitted has seen plenty of success as a player and a 31 year old who is atleast 5 years away from being able to coach his own side at AFL level successfully.
So Paul Roos, Ross Lyon & Alastair Clarkson should never have been appointed? Matty Knights?
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Stripes on August 19, 2009, 10:58:27 AM
The other factor is our age. TW may have made many mistakes but he was correct with his prediction even though some Journo's didn't like it. We will not see success at any level until we have the majority of our list reaching the 'premiership age bracket' of around 23 - 27. Regardless of our talent, skill level or footy smarts if we do not have the size and strength to compete against the more mature midfields such as Sydney and Collingwood.

Lids and co are the first wave of our core list to approach this magic age bracket but it won't be until a good percentage of the list sits around this age until we can hope to see success.

As far as I can see that is still 2 years off. Any coach we have should be attempting to strengthen our side and make them more physically imposing for next year if we have any chance of success.

Stripes
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Smokey on August 19, 2009, 11:30:39 AM
A poster on tiger-talk had this to say:

"This is a friend of a friend (who is directly involved in the process) story so take it as you will but I thought it was interesting.

Apparently, of all the people interviewed for the coaching position, Alan Richardson was by far the most impressive - from what I have heard he spoke exceptionally, was very well prepared and had a dossier on every Richmond player, their strengths and weaknesses etc

The worry is that the Board is seriously thinking of taking the easy "safe" option of Hardwick, not because he won the process but because everyone externally sees him as the SAFE option - hope this part of it isnt true"

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/91985 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/91985)

Fun times!
And lots of these  :shh  and these   ;)  and these   :help  and these   :sleep  and these   :whistle  and the only one that really counts  :gotigers
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: wayne on August 19, 2009, 12:14:40 PM
The worry is that the Board is seriously thinking of taking the easy "safe" option of Hardwick, not because he won the process but because everyone externally sees him as the SAFE option - hope this part of it isnt true"


It's time to take the right option.

Wallace was the safe, media darling option 5 years ago. That didn't work out so good.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Ramps on August 19, 2009, 12:38:31 PM
Best candidate should get it. Irrespective of what anyone thinks- media, supporters, sponsors. whoever does the best job of the process should win.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: 1965 on August 19, 2009, 01:05:23 PM
Its pretty easy to be pessimistic at the moment, but it wouldn't surprise me for things to turn around quicker than other think. We have a young core that's still maturing, similar to the Hawks back in 2004. No one rated their kids coming through, but a disciplined coach brought them into the side and had them playing team football pretty quickly, despite a few floggings here and there.

The fact Hardwick was part of that makes me lean towards him more than others. I certainly think the Hawks overachieved early, however they certainly play hard, team football, I hate the zone and hope that's not Hardwick wants to implement at Richmond, however that type of discipline is something our players should aspire to.

As for the off field stuff, I'm planning to win Tattslotto or Powerball and will use the money to disband the coteries  who think their money buys them power and influence over the club. Be patient, I'm working on it ;)

and pay out McMuffin?
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Stripes on August 19, 2009, 01:18:27 PM
All this speculation is getting annoying. I will be glad when the decision is made as much to end the hear-say than to know who the new coach is. I really don't think we can go wrong with the decision - all of the candidates are of a similar standard and only time will tell who was the best choice.

Sometimes you have to look through the Interview and see what the reality of an applicant. Many people present extremely well in such situations but when you dig a bit deeper they are not the best person for the job. Richardson may be the same - great presenter but without the experience and comparative credentials for Hardwick and Hinkley.

When it all comes down to it its just all more speculation now isn't it  ;)

Stripes 
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: tigersalive on August 19, 2009, 01:25:16 PM
Apparently, of all the people interviewed for the coaching position, Alan Richardson was by far the most impressive - from what I have heard he spoke exceptionally, was very well prepared and had a dossier on every Richmond player, their strengths and weaknesses etc

Bloody hell, that's preparation.  I liked AR before I read that, now I like him more.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Chuck17 on August 19, 2009, 02:44:46 PM
I really don't think we can go wrong with the decision - all of the candidates are of a similar standard and only time will tell who was the best choice.

For every ying there is a yang and the converse also applies that maybe we cant go right with the decision regardless of who is appointed.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Infamy on August 19, 2009, 06:20:57 PM
Its pretty easy to be pessimistic at the moment, but it wouldn't surprise me for things to turn around quicker than other think. We have a young core that's still maturing, similar to the Hawks back in 2004. No one rated their kids coming through, but a disciplined coach brought them into the side and had them playing team football pretty quickly, despite a few floggings here and there.

The fact Hardwick was part of that makes me lean towards him more than others. I certainly think the Hawks overachieved early, however they certainly play hard, team football, I hate the zone and hope that's not Hardwick wants to implement at Richmond, however that type of discipline is something our players should aspire to.

As for the off field stuff, I'm planning to win Tattslotto or Powerball and will use the money to disband the coteries  who think their money buys them power and influence over the club. Be patient, I'm working on it ;)

and pay out McMuffin?
Not sure I could even bare to even part with Tattslotto winnings, giving him money just sends a shiver down my spine. I reckon I'd pay double his annual salary to get him to go to another club for a late 1st/early 2nd round draft pick.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 19, 2009, 08:39:15 PM
Apparently, of all the people interviewed for the coaching position, Alan Richardson was by far the most impressive - from what I have heard he spoke exceptionally, was very well prepared and had a dossier on every Richmond player, their strengths and weaknesses etc

The worry is that the Board is seriously thinking of taking the easy "safe" option of Hardwick, not because he won the process but because everyone externally sees him as the SAFE option - hope this part of it isnt true"

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/91985 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/91985)

Disppointing if this is true that someone involved in the process has spoken to a friend who has then blabbed but that's a point for another day

My point is....


The term "safe option" is actually a really good description for it.

Yesterday (ie an earlier post on this thread) I used the term "soft/Obvious" option and during today I've been thinking the term I was looking for was perhaps "conservative option" but safe is actually what I was trying to articulate....

I look at Mick Malthouse he was IIRC 31 years old when appointed by Footscray, no coaching experience and just out of the game..they took one of the biggest punts in footy, they were daring, made a massively bold decision and look how that turned out...

Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: Rodgerramjet on August 19, 2009, 09:17:33 PM
A poster on tiger-talk had this to say:

"This is a friend of a friend (who is directly involved in the process) story so take it as you will but I thought it was interesting.

Apparently, of all the people interviewed for the coaching position, Alan Richardson was by far the most impressive - from what I have heard he spoke exceptionally, was very well prepared and had a dossier on every Richmond player, their strengths and weaknesses etc

The worry is that the Board is seriously thinking of taking the easy "safe" option of Hardwick, not because he won the process but because everyone externally sees him as the SAFE option - hope this part of it isnt true"

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/91985 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/91985)

Fun times!
And lots of these  :shh  and these   ;)  and these   :help  and these   :sleep  and these   :whistle  and the only one that really counts  :gotigers

Ah, nice red herring, that one. Good to see that Richardson has a PR arm to his campaign. Nice magic trick if you can get away with it. Some will believe it.
Title: Re: Four Coaches and One Job
Post by: bojangles17 on August 19, 2009, 09:56:50 PM
Apparently, of all the people interviewed for the coaching position, Alan Richardson was by far the most impressive - from what I have heard he spoke exceptionally, was very well prepared and had a dossier on every Richmond player, their strengths and weaknesses etc

The worry is that the Board is seriously thinking of taking the easy "safe" option of Hardwick, not because he won the process but because everyone externally sees him as the SAFE option - hope this part of it isnt true"

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/91985 (http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/tiger-talk/message/91985)

mick malthouse played thru a successful era at RFC, I know your alluding to Rawlo, he has nothing to draw on in that regard having played in teams that fliundered...what will he draw on in preparing an assault on 2010 to resurrect this great club...I'd rather bank on what Hinkley, Hardwick or richo could bring to the table in that regard :o

Disppointing if this is true that someone involved in the process has spoken to a friend who has then blabbed but that's a point for another day

My point is....


The term "safe option" is actually a really good description for it.

Yesterday (ie an earlier post on this thread) I used the term "soft/Obvious" option and during today I've been thinking the term I was looking for was perhaps "conservative option" but safe is actually what I was trying to articulate....

I look at Mick Malthouse he was IIRC 31 years old when appointed by Footscray, no coaching experience and just out of the game..they took one of the biggest punts in footy, they were daring, made a massively bold decision and look how that turned out...