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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Jackstar is back on August 28, 2009, 11:17:19 PM
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Give you a word of advice.
Forget about mad monday.
9.00am Monday Morning do the following.
Sack all staff from the bootstudder to the Fitness Staff.
Tell the following players that they will be traded or delisted.
McMahon
Rance
Thomson.
Silvester
Polak
Polo
Jackson
Then the players who didnt play tonight
Schulz
JON
Connors
Raines
The retiress Cogs and Brown., along with Johnson and Bowden
Thats 15 changes
If you dont do that, you wont win a game in 2010.
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You'd keep Patto Jack???? I wouldn't.
Simmonds ouch... He aint getting to any contests.
Our ruck stocks are very grim also at the moment.
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You'd keep Patto Jack???? I wouldn't.
Simmonds ouch... He aint getting to any contests.
Our ruck stocks are very grim also at the moment.
Ooops.
Add Graham as he is hopeless. and Patto as well :banghead :banghead
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15 is too many
Plus Simmo needs to go
Can't believe you forgot Pettifer either
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Polo should be played as a forward pocket. he stays.
patto gawn.
the rest i agree with jack although i think you forgot Simmonds.
thank god the season is over now we can watch real teams play
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15 is too many
Plus Simmo needs to go
Can't believe you forgot Pettifer either
And Pettifer,
Thats 18 now :banghead
been told they are going to keep Simmonds and get rid of Graham and Patterson.
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15 is too many
Plus Simmo needs to go
Can't believe you forgot Pettifer either
And Pettifer,
Thats 18 now :banghead
been told they are going to keep Simmonds and get rid of Graham and Patterson.
i dont believe that for a second re: simmonds
keep simmonds surely your taking the pee???
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I am stumped with that too.
Surely Simmonds will be sent on his way. He is hopeless.
Graham I thought based on his age would be kept.
Patto has had 5 years and aint good enough.
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Damien, first thing you do is remove every little trace of Terry Wallace from Punt Road.
What the stuff did that man do for 4 and a half years. I understand he hasn't coached for the last few months, but the players have his gameplan, whatever that was, ingrained into them.
They get the ball on half back and the only option is to kick to a contest, the play hot potato in a congested area until someone stuffs up and the other team just breaks away and kicks to a uncongested forward line. It's a training run for other teams to play against us. Don't blame the defenders, you can't stop that many entries that are unpressured.
We have a forward, Riewoldt, that looks like he can mark anything, he's poo scared to have a shot on goal because it's that rare that we go inside 50 we want to make sure every one counts.
They don't tackle properly, they don't know what to do out there!!!
I didn't think it was possible, but I hate Wallace even more after tonight. How does he get a job in the media as an 'expert' when he's a clueless, stupid stuff.
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Damien, first thing you do is remove every little trace of Terry Wallace from Punt Road.
What the stuff did that man do for 4 and a half years. I understand he hasn't coached for the last few months, but the players have his gameplan, whatever that was, ingrained into them.
They get the ball on half back and the only option is to kick to a contest, the play hot potato in a congested area until someone stuffs up and the other team just breaks away and kicks to a uncongested forward line. It's a training run for other teams to play against us. Don't blame the defenders, you can't stop that many entries that are unpressured.
We have a forward, Riewoldt, that looks like he can mark anything, he's poo scared to have a shot on goal because it's that rare that we go inside 50 we want to make sure every one counts.
They don't tackle properly, they don't know what to do out there!!!
I didn't think it was possible, but I hate Wallace even more after tonight. How does he get a job in the media as an 'expert' when he's a clueless, stupid stuff.
Great post, you are on the money Wayne.
Clean everyone out of the place
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he is a slimy gold digging idiot of the highest order
it was his dream to recruit these skinny little girls who cannot lay a tackle if their life depended on it.
This place has his name written all over it and really hardwick needs to make hard calls on rawlings and co also. weak as pee
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King, Hislop, Gourdis .... you could think of 20-25 names easily that should go but it's going to have to be done over 2 draft/trade periods at least. 12 this year and 12 the next. Really it'll take 2 years from now (3 draft/trade periods) to turnover the list properly and that's only if we cut hard.
Lids, Cotch, Jack, Blingers, Morton, Vickery, Post (I know he had a shocker tonight but why play him in defence) and perhaps a couple of others you could really say have a future playing in a top Tigers side.
been told they are going to keep Simmonds and get rid of Graham and Patterson.
I can understand Patto going and Gus is no cert but why get rid of 22 y.o. ruckman and keep a 31 year old who is finished? ???
No claps off for Simmo at the end of the game when Browny and Cogs were walking off so you could be right about Simmo staying Jack :help.
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Hardwick needs to find a shrink for the players that stay on for next year so that they can repress all memories of Terry and his gameplan. I suggest they get the one Blingers went to and I suggest they get a whole crapload of Chesterfield couches as a first point of order.
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King, Hislop, Gourdis .... you could think of 20-25 names easily that should go but it's going to have to be done over 2 draft/trade periods at least. 12 this year and 12 the next. Really it'll take 2 years from now (3 draft/trade periods) to turnover the list properly and that's only if we cut hard.
Lids, Cotch, Jack, Blingers, Morton, Vickery, Post (I know he had a shocker tonight but why play him in defence) and perhaps a couple of others you could really say have a future playing in a top Tigers side.
been told they are going to keep Simmonds and get rid of Graham and Patterson.
I can understand Patto going and Gus is no cert but why get rid of 22 y.o. ruckman and keep a 31 year old who is finished? ???
No claps off for Simmo at the end of the game when Browny and Cogs were walking off so you could be right about Simmo staying Jack :help.
I noticed there were no claps for Simmo, so you would think the mail is right.
Funny though, he told me at the start of the year that this was to be his last as his knee was stuffed, so who knows
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Give you a word of advice.
Forget about mad monday.
9.00am Monday Morning do the following.
Sack all staff from the bootstudder to the Fitness Staff.
Tell the following players that they will be traded or delisted.
McMahon
Rance
Thomson.
Silvester
Polak
Polo
Jackson
Then the players who didnt play tonight
Schulz
JON
Connors
Raines
The retiress Cogs and Brown., along with Johnson and Bowden
Thats 15 changes
If you dont do that, you wont win a game in 2010.
Agree with all but Rance however contracts and poo will sort out who goes and who doesn't.
I blame Rawlings for Rance looking like a fish out of water so often. He plays his whole junior footy in backline and yet Jade puts him on a quality experienced midfilder every week when he would be lost in there. Play Rance in his correct bloody position before we give up on him.
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Ive been listening to talk back some people thinking Hardwick should only get rid of 5 or 6. Unless he gets rid of 12 to 15 he wont succeed. Hardwick has to make a statement, he needs to make it quick, he needs to take the pain of the next 2 years. He will get time if he makes a big move and it has to be NOW.
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I noticed there were no claps for Simmo, so you would think the mail is right.
Funny though, he told me at the start of the year that this was to be his last as his knee was stuffed, so who knows
We asked Simmo at training on Tuesday if this was the end and he looked back stunned as though why did we think that.
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I am not for trading Rance. Rance should get into the Gym and understand that he'll be playing full back as of next year.
A while ago I said our key defenders were overated. I wont retract that at all.
McGuane and Moore should be moved on and they should be moved on now that they have currency.
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I am not for trading Rance. Rance should get into the Gym and understand that he'll be playing full back as of next year.
A while ago I said our key defenders were overated. I wont retract that at all.
McGuane and Moore should be moved on and they should be moved on now that they have currency.
We had 35 inside 50's for the night, that means the ball is going the other way a fair bit.
The kicks that are going into the Eagles forward line aren't bombed in from a player under pressure, most of them were from bullet passes off guys who were in the clear. That'd be impossible for even Scarlett to stop.
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I am not for trading Rance. Rance should get into the Gym and understand that he'll be playing full back as of next year.
A while ago I said our key defenders were overated. I wont retract that at all.
McGuane and Moore should be moved on and they should be moved on now that they have currency.
We had 35 inside 50's for the night, that means the ball is going the other way a fair bit.
The kicks that are going into the Eagles forward line aren't bombed in from a player under pressure, most of them were from bullet passes off guys who were in the clear. That'd be impossible for even Scarlett to stop.
Im not concerned with there ability to stop. I just dont think that they create anything. Theres nothing but stopping and when we are getting badly beaten like today in stoppages etc. then theres no reason to have them. Richmond needs to find big upgrades on all our key defenders. Put them up for trade. Its now or never I reckon. Hardwick has to make the super tough calls.
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Moore, yes. McGuane, no.
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Moore, yes. McGuane, no.
Strange. If I had to choose I'd go the other way and have Moore up for trade. :shh
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I am not for trading Rance. Rance should get into the Gym and understand that he'll be playing full back as of next year.
A while ago I said our key defenders were overated. I wont retract that at all.
McGuane and Moore should be moved on and they should be moved on now that they have currency.
Rance has to be traded.
He is way too slow,
Isnt a KP.
Makes too many mistakes
Has poor awareness.
Really struggles to mark overhead
Why on earth would you keep him ?
Because he looks good, :banghead :banghead No wonder we are NO BLOODY GOOD
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Isnt a KP.
It's hard to prove you can hold down a KP when the idiot coach puts him in the midfield for most of the time. ::)
Would have preferred to pee Moore off tonight and sit Rance on Kennedy so we can see Rance in the position he was bloody drafted for. :banghead :banghead
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Id like to see Rance tried at Full Back if he doesnt cut it then he can go as well. In the end 80% of our list seems like crap anyway.
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A minimum of 10 players need to be turned over by Hardwick.
Hopefully the number will be somewhere around 12-15.
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Id like to see Rance tried at Full Back if he doesnt cut it then he can go as well. In the end 80% of our list seems like crap anyway.
Way too small for a KP.
And too slow to play anywhere else.
Trade while you can Hardwick
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Id like to see Rance tried at Full Back if he doesnt cut it then he can go as well. In the end 80% of our list seems like crap anyway.
Way too small for a KP.
And too slow to play anywhere else.
Trade while you can Hardwick
No, no no.
If you are saying his size is too small, he's only 19, he's not going to be a mountain.
If you're saying he's his height is too small he's taller than THursty, Moore and McGuane.
He looks slow at times because you see him with the football in the midfield, where he's never played before trying to make a decision. Tough for any kid new to the game of AFL, let alone in a position he's never played.
Would trade Moore before Rance.
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Id like to see Rance tried at Full Back if he doesnt cut it then he can go as well. In the end 80% of our list seems like crap anyway.
Way too small for a KP.
And too slow to play anywhere else.
Trade while you can Hardwick
Well on this I agree (on the timing). If he is to be traded then it has to be this year. To be honest Jacko Im no longer fussed about who stays and who goes because Wallace has screwed the club into the ground and 80% of our players are crap. Hardwick might as well put a blindfold on and throw darts at the list and where ever the dart lands he should cut the player- thats how bad the list is.
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The players are looking worse and worse, over the last month the football has really degenerated, the reason is bad coaching. Yes some on our list need to go, quite a few actually, but alot will improve with the proper guidance. Hardwick needs to get rid of the entire coaching debt and get a group that he can have confidence in because there is no way in the world you can have any confidence in the group that is there now.
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You might find the Thursfield, McGaune and Moore are taller than Rance.
Keep in mind that they have Post ''groomed for being a KP, back or forward , Rance has to go.
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You might find the Thursfield, McGaune and Moore are taller than Rance.
Keep in mind that they have Post ''groomed for being a KP, back or forward , Rance has to go.
Thursfield: 191cm, McGuane: 191cm, Moore: 189 cm
Rance:193Cm, Post:194cm
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You might find the Thursfield, McGaune and Moore are taller than Rance.
Keep in mind that they have Post ''groomed for being a KP, back or forward , Rance has to go.
Thursfield: 191cm, McGuane: 191cm, Moore: 189 cm
Rance:193Cm, Post:194cm
He runs stooped then smarty. He aint good enough anyway. Most of our players arent
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You might find the Thursfield, McGaune and Moore are taller than Rance.
Keep in mind that they have Post ''groomed for being a KP, back or forward , Rance has to go.
Thursfield: 191cm, McGuane: 191cm, Moore: 189 cm
Rance:193Cm, Post:194cm
He runs stooped then smarty. He aint good enough anyway. Most of our players arent
Then if that is what the club thinks they should trade him back to Freo or WCE NOW. Not in 2 years or 3 years because trade value will start to dissipate really quickly if what your saying is actually the case Jacko.
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Trade
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good luck.
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Moore, yes. McGuane, no.
Strange. If I had to choose I'd go the other way and have Moore up for trade. :shh
That's what I meant.