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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 16, 2010, 05:47:26 PM
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Fire away .....
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Rance Out
Astbury In
otherwise
Keep it the same
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In: Cousins, Browne
Out: Rance, Vickery
Cale Hooker already looks to miss next week for the Bombers and all their other injured players won't be back for next week either
Hille has also been reported for high contact on Goddard too
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In: Cousins, Browne
Out: Rance, Vickery
Cale Hooker already looks to miss next week for the Bombers and all their other injured players won't be back for next week either
Hille has also been reported for high contact on Goddard too
Not sure I agree with Vickery out Inf, I think I know your reasoning behind it but might as well leave him in for the rest of the year unless he needs a rest!! Rance tried his guts out today, it's just a pitty his disposal lets him down.
If we had Cousins in today we would have won IMO.
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In: Cousins
Out: Rance
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Hard to pick outs this week, however Hawks have bugger all rucks they smashed us in the ruck (Renouf 23/Skipper 19 Vs Graham 16/Vickery 7)
Gus Graham did a fair bit up forward and with a more mature body deserves to keep his spot. Vickery has played 8 games on the trot this year, including playing as #1 ruck last week, he's only 19 so I think he could have a spell. We don't want to run him into the ground, so let him either have a rest week or a week at Coburg and give young Browne the #2 spot for a week or two to see where he's at.
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probably being a bit harsh here ,but I dont think mitch farmer cuts the mustard
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I think we leave the team as is with perhaps the exception of Polak who, while giving us an addition tall target up forward, was barely sighted and missed a crucial mark 30m out from goal directly in front which then cost us a quick goal up the other end. He also missed a sitter 5m out where all he had to do is find his foot with the ball but couldn't get his act together - any other player in the team would have kicked that goal. He took two nice grabs outside the 50 but overall he did little but take a defender. I would much prefer to see Astbury back or even bring Browne in to rotate with Gus in the forwardline and ruck.
Stripes
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Hardwick had good things to say about Polak in his press conference so I don't expect him to be dropped.
I think we'll need Farmer to play on one of Essendon's small forwards too
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Hardwick had good things to say about Polak in his press conference so I don't expect him to be dropped.
Sometimes a player's value cannot be guaged by kicks, handballs & marks. They have a role, they do it, they keep their spot.
Polak had his role, played it perfectly and as result it took a helluva lot of pressure of Jack R. A couple of times they didn't know which forward to go with Polak, Gus or Jack
Polak stays ;D
INS: Cousins, Polo, BrownE
OUTS: Rance, Vickery (needs a rest), Jackson (likely suspension) and if he doens't get rubbed out I'd drop Nahas (was disppointed with him going to ground today)
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forget Browne. i watched him closely at Coburg yesterday and it was if he wasnt there. How far away is Cuz?
Whats wrong with Morton?
Also at Coburg, I thought Post was awful
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forget Browne. i watched him closely at Coburg yesterday and it was if he wasnt there. How far away is Cuz?
We were obviously watching a different game at Coburg as I rteckon BrownE was very good
Cus needs to get through training in particular the main session Wednesday
Whats wrong with Morton?
You were at Coburg - I'd call it disinterested - well that's how it looked
Also at Coburg, I thought Post was awful
15 very good minutes in the 2nd quarter. Apart from that the same problem he's had all season ...LACK OF INTENSITY :banghead
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forget Browne. i watched him closely at Coburg yesterday and it was if he wasnt there.
Given he was named in the bests and most reports on him were positive, I'd say your alone in that view
How far away is Cuz?
You'd expect him to play against Essendon
Whats wrong with Morton?
He's lazy and doesn't play team football
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Browne was crap. 'named in the bests' give me a break. It's like a bloody junior encouragement award sometimes.
as for morton, if he dont give a toss he should be sacked now
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Browne was crap. 'named in the bests' give me a break. It's like a bloody junior encouragement award sometimes.
as for morton, if he dont give a toss he should be sacked now
Go back to your home planet
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Browne was crap. 'named in the bests' give me a break. It's like a bloody junior encouragement award sometimes.
as for morton, if he dont give a toss he should be sacked now
Go back to your home planet
Ooops i thought this was a forum where we could exchange our opinions. But not if they clash with yours it seems! :banghead
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probably being a bit harsh here ,but I dont think mitch farmer cuts the mustard
I was very very very disappointed with one of Farmer's efforts today that cost us a goal. Shirked a contest badly when running at Franklin and McGuane at the Ponsford end. Should have helped McGuane out by creating a physical contest, instead he side-stepped and Franklin took possession, goal resulted. Very poor play by Farmer and you wouldn't like to see it happen again.
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In Cousins Polo
Out Rance White
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In Cousins Polo
Out Rance White
Just. Wow.
To drop him after his best game of the season would be plain cruel.
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In Cousins Polo
Out Rance White
Just. Wow.
To drop him after his best game of the season would be plain cruel.
I know it is but for me was purely match up. Was thinking Nahas rather than White but I just think if Nahas is played exclusively in the forward line I feel that Essendon have no clear match up for him or one they want to go with.
Furthermore Cuz adds to our midfield and Polo has good prior history in this match.
If White stays in I won't be upset either. I know he has pace and Essendon are quite a pacy side when they play the game on their terms.
I am just finding it harder this week to get a few outs of the side based on today's match which I suppose is a good thing.
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I'd drop Framer well before White.
Rance too must be vulnerable.
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Bring in Cousins and perhaps Polo and Astbury. Jackson may be in trouble for striking. Keep Polak in. Farmer in danger of being dropped. Would be great if Hille got rubbed out. Keep Angus and Vickery in team.
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RICHMOND - in the mix
Daniel Jackson is on report and could miss, but Ben Cousins is looking like he'll be fit, so would slide straight into his spot. Nathan Foley has pulled up well, while Tom Hislop or Jake King (1.6 for Coburg) are also a chance, but it would be hard to drop too many from the side that did so well against the Hawks.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/94564/default.aspx
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(Out) In
(Jackson - Susp.) Collins
(Rance - Omitted) Astbury
(Farmer - Omitted) Morton
(Tambling - Inj.) Polo
:)
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(Out) In
(Jackson - Susp.) Collins
(Rance - Omitted) Astbury
(Farmer - Omitted) Morton
(Tambling - Inj.) Polo
:)
Sorry torch but based on the "efforts" for Coburg last Saturday neither Morton or Collins deserve a game this week.
Hislop & King deserve a game more than Morton and Collins
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(Out) In
(Jackson - Susp.) Collins
(Rance - Omitted) Astbury
(Farmer - Omitted) Morton
(Tambling - Inj.) Polo
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No Cousins Torch?
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Yep was thinking that too. If Cousins is fit, Cousins plays.
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Out: Jackson, Rance
In: Cousins, Hislop
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(Out) In
(Jackson - Susp.) Collins
(Rance - Omitted) Astbury
(Farmer - Omitted) Morton
(Tambling - Inj.) Polo
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Sorry torch but based on the "efforts" for Coburg last Saturday neither Morton or Collins deserve a game this week.
Hislop & King deserve a game more than Morton and Collins
yeah well, either did Gus if you believe most around here, sometimes you just gotta say WTF :whistle
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Out: Jackson, Farmer
In: Cousins, Thompson
Give Rance another go, at least he is hard at it and doesn't look too bad when in the forward line, his hardness at the contest has enabled us to keep the ball in our forward line longer IMO.
If Rance came out......of the side that is.. ;D then maybe give King a go but we can't run with King and Farmer in the same team IMO. The Bombers are too tall and the combination has not worked this year so far, even though they have played limited games together, it makes us too small IMHO.
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okay two ins id like to see.
cousins - really speaks for itself i would drop white just not up to afl standard.
vickery - imo he needs a break not getting a lot of the ball not doing a lot in the ruck and not getting a lot of game time. hes had a good run but imo its time to send him back to coburg to get full games find some touch take some marks and get his confidence up for another crack it in 4 or 5 weeks time. the obvious replacement for him is browne give him a block of games 4 or5 has to be good for his development.
jackson- obviously suspended would like to give polo his spot play him as a run with player.
collins - is one i would like to see get a game imo we should be getting as many games as possible into him. the one i would drop is nahas.
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Morton ? ???
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Morton ? ???
Looked totally disinterested playing for Coburg on Saturday HMH
I realy don't know what's going on with Mitch at the moment
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Jackson Out
Nahas Out (needs to string quality games together. Pathetic last week)
Tambling Out
Polo In
Collins In
Hislop In (as much as i dont rate him)
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Jackson Out
Nahas Out (needs to string quality games together. Pathetic last week)
Tambling Out
Polo In
Collins In
Hislop In (as much as i dont rate him)
Why are you calling for players to come in that WP has already informed us that they did not perform at Coburg?? King and Thompson were the only ones that stood up apparently so why would you include Polo, Hislop and Collins. Just asking because it's confusing.
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sheesh how could one forget tambling well his performances have been forgetable how about we just play one short cant do any worse than what the witness has dished up so far this yr.
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sheesh how could one forget tambling well his performances have been forgetable how about we just play one short cant do any worse than what the witness has dished up so far this yr.
Kicked a nice goal actually, I thought he wen't ok, leave him in, it's not his fault every week is it... ::)
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sheesh how could one forget tambling well his performances have been forgetable how about we just play one short cant do any worse than what the witness has dished up so far this yr.
Kicked a nice goal actually, I thought he wen't ok, leave him in, it's not his fault every week is it... ::)
sheesh it seems some players can do no wrong. hes been terrible and really needs to get the arse for awhile. we no longer tolerate mediocrity or so ive been told.
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sheesh how could one forget tambling well his performances have been forgetable how about we just play one short cant do any worse than what the witness has dished up so far this yr.
Kicked a nice goal actually, I thought he wen't ok, leave him in, it's not his fault every week is it... ::)
sheesh it seems some players can do no wrong. hes been terrible and really needs to get the behind for awhile. we no longer tolerate mediocrity or so ive been told.
We have a few players that go missing or turn the ball over weekly, I just don't think Tambling is that bad every week in comparison.
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I realy don't know what's going on with Mitch at the moment
Maybe Mitch likes gold.
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I realy don't know what's going on with Mitch at the moment
Maybe Mitch likes gold.
He looks like he is not really interested in footy at the moment, has looked like that for a while now, he just seems really out of sorts during the games I have seen him in this year.
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I realy don't know what's going on with Mitch at the moment
Maybe Mitch likes gold.
Let's hope gold likes Mitch, enough to give a first round pick for him.
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By all reports Blinga will play this week so the only forced omission is Jackson. I would drop White and bring Cousins in to replace him and Polo to act as our tagger. Can't think of anyone else who could take up the role? ???
Stripes
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White can tag. I'd drop Rance before him.
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whoever is fit to come in for the forced change.
Leave the players to get a feel of playing together we need to mold a team & have others force thier way into the side.
If nobody is will to start finding the ball & doing team stuff down at Coburg then dont make changes.
Coburg just as much as Richmond need to start playing for each other & the Richmond players need to give a bigger effort
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By all reports Blinga will play this week so the only forced omission is Jackson. I would drop White and bring Cousins in to replace him and Polo to act as our tagger. Can't think of anyone else who could take up the role? ???
Stripes
White just had one of his best games for the club, why would you drop him now?
Don't think Polo's done anything to deserve an instant recall
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In: Cousins, Post
Out: Jackson, Vickery
Vickery needs a spell. One kick last week. Needs to get his hands on the football at Coburg. Need to see if Post can step up. May as well throw him in.
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By all reports Blinga will play this week so the only forced omission is Jackson. I would drop White and bring Cousins in to replace him and Polo to act as our tagger. Can't think of anyone else who could take up the role? ???
Stripes
White just had one of his best games for the club, why would you drop him now?
Don't think Polo's done anything to deserve an instant recall
Only because he is the weakest link in our midfield chain at the moment and Cousins inclusion over him would add additional class. If White can tag I'd be all for him to step into Jackson's role but otherwise we need a tagger and Polo is the only other player I can think of who has successfully fufilled the role, even if he doesn't deserve the call up.
Perhaps rather than bringing in a midfielder to replace Jackson we go taller, include Browne in the forwardline rotating with the other two rucks, and bring one of our smaller forwards up the ground when required. Just a thought.
Stripes
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Jackson hasn't exactly been playing as a tagger lately anyway
Personally I'd rather take on the Dons midfield on their merits, try and make them tag us
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In: Cousins, Post
Out: Jackson, Vickery
Vickery needs a spell. One kick last week. Needs to get his hands on the football at Coburg. Need to see if Post can step up. May as well throw him in.
Post doesn't deserve a game based on his recent form at Coburg. I think to play him would send a very poor message to the other players who are actually bothering to bust a gut at Coburg and doing all the right things.
IMHO Post's biggest problem is his lack of intensity not just at the contest but in general and because of this lack of intensity the defensive side to his game is almost non existent
Agree regarding Vickery
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does anyone know how long griffiths is out for?
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does anyone know how long griffiths is out for?
He's not, the only reason he won't play for Coburg this week is because they have a bye
May even get a call up for Richmond, you never know
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In: Cousins, Post
Out: Jackson, Vickery
Vickery needs a spell. One kick last week. Needs to get his hands on the football at Coburg. Need to see if Post can step up. May as well throw him in.
Post doesn't deserve a game based on his recent form at Coburg. I think to play him would send a very poor message to the other players who are actually bothering to bust a gut at Coburg and doing all the right things.
IMHO Post's biggest problem is his lack of intensity not just at the contest but in general and because of this lack of intensity the defensive side to his game is almost non existent
Agree regarding Vickery
Graham didn't deserve a game last week based on form. Sometimes you just need to throw tham in and see what they do.
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does anyone know how long griffiths is out for?
He's not, the only reason he won't play for Coburg this week is because they have a bye
May even get a call up for Richmond, you never know
Quiet rumour or two that may debut this week which would be staggering, but at the same time, not so staggering seeing as Dimma likes to throw them in.
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does anyone know how long griffiths is out for?
He's not, the only reason he won't play for Coburg this week is because they have a bye
May even get a call up for Richmond, you never know
Quiet rumour or two that may debut this week which would be staggering, but at the same time, not so staggering seeing as Dimma likes to throw them in.
Very staggered if that happens, very very staggered indeed.
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does anyone know how long griffiths is out for?
He's not, the only reason he won't play for Coburg this week is because they have a bye
May even get a call up for Richmond, you never know
Well going by what the kid himself said at the pre-match last week he's been told that he'll be coming back via Coburg and needs a few weeks there to get some match fitness up and test the shoulder.
Graham didn't deserve a game last week based on form. Sometimes you just need to throw tham in and see what they do.
Agree about Graham but with Simmo being the liability that he sadly is at the minute they really had little choice seeing they wanted to expose the Dawks lack of rucking options
Just think that there are players who deserve an opportunity ahead of Post, remembering that Post was given games earlier in the season that weren't really warranted and he didn't seize his chance then
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(Out) In
(Jackson - Susp.) Collins
(Rance - Omitted) Astbury
(Farmer - Omitted) Morton
(Tambling - Inj.) Polo
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Sorry torch but based on the "efforts" for Coburg last Saturday neither Morton or Collins deserve a game this week.
Hislop & King deserve a game more than Morton and Collins
yes, they don't. i would give them a "do or die" match!
tell them, you are on your edge, because it seems Hardwick isn't rating Morton!
>:(
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(Out) In
(Jackson - Susp.) Collins
(Rance - Omitted) Astbury
(Farmer - Omitted) Morton
(Tambling - Inj.) Polo
:)
No Cousins Torch?
nope, Cousins is a waste of time!
:)
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does anyone know how long griffiths is out for?
He's not, the only reason he won't play for Coburg this week is because they have a bye
May even get a call up for Richmond, you never know
Well going by what the kid himself said at the pre-match last week he's been told that he'll be coming back via Coburg and needs a few weeks there to get some match fitness up and test the shoulder.
Graham didn't deserve a game last week based on form. Sometimes you just need to throw tham in and see what they do.
Just think that there are players who deserve an opportunity ahead of Post, remembering that Post was given games earlier in the season that weren't really warranted and he didn't seize his chance then
he may not deserve a game but how many genuine kpds do we have in our system.
post needs games this yr just like vickery martin cotchin astbury connors collins dea etc . its not about deserving games for us each week sheesh if that were the case we would go in with 10 players no its about the experience and getting games into them where possible.
many here disagree but for me at least 2 of our regular tall defenders has to go we have to find better. the only way to do this is find out if what kids we do have are up to it.or show signs they are up to it. atm i dont have a problem with post in fact unlike many i reckon hes real promising despite some concerns.
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(Out) In
(Jackson - Susp.) Collins
(Rance - Omitted) Astbury
(Farmer - Omitted) Morton
(Tambling - Inj.) Polo
:)
Newan, Thursfield, Moore
White, McGuane, Webberley
Collins, Deledio, Edwards
Polo, Astbury, Nason
Morton, Riewoldt, Nahas
Graham, Cotchin, Martin
Polak, Vickery, Tuck, Foley
:)
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Agree with claw. Getting experience into them, testing them out is the way to do it. Keep Vickery in. Try Post. Centre half back is a problem area for the team
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Agree with claw. Getting experience into them, testing them out is the way to do it. Keep Vickery in. Try Post. Centre half back is a problem area for the team
Post... experienced... ??? ???
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Agree with claw. Getting experience into them, testing them out is the way to do it. Keep Vickery in. Try Post. Centre half back is a problem area for the team
Post... experienced... ??? ???
Think you might have mis-read, WAT. elim to me is saying Post needs AFL experience to really test him out.
Personally I think he needs to show some improvement at Coburg first as his urgency and effort early in the year while playing for Richmond was deplorable and I've heard no better reports about his Coburg form. All we ask for is to do his best at every contest yet he has that element of laziness about him.
Got to lift, does young Postie. It's the only thing keeping McGuane in the team ahead of him imo, because McGuane clearly gives a stuff but Postie is the man with more atheticism and talent imo. He'd want to hurry up if he wants to get in because by round 11 he'll also have the Goo to contend with who will be looking for his debut.
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Agree with claw. Getting experience into them, testing them out is the way to do it. Keep Vickery in. Try Post. Centre half back is a problem area for the team
Post... experienced... ??? ???
Think you might have mis-read, WAT. elim to me is saying Post needs AFL experience to really test him out.
Personally I think he needs to show some improvement at Coburg first as his urgency and effort early in the year while playing for Richmond was deplorable and I've heard no better reports about his Coburg form. All we ask for is to do his best at every contest yet he has that element of laziness about him.
Got to lift, does young Postie. It's the only thing keeping McGuane in the team ahead of him imo, because McGuane clearly gives a stuff but Postie is the man with more atheticism and talent imo. He'd want to hurry up if he wants to get in because by round 11 he'll also have the Goo to contend with who will be looking for his debut.
Ah very good I apoligise. :thumbsup, I do think he needs to lift at Coburg first too before he gets a shot in the RFC team.
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Agree with claw. Getting experience into them, testing them out is the way to do it. Keep Vickery in. Try Post. Centre half back is a problem area for the team
Post... experienced... ??? ???
Think you might have mis-read, WAT. elim to me is saying Post needs AFL experience to really test him out.
Personally I think he needs to show some improvement at Coburg first as his urgency and effort early in the year while playing for Richmond was deplorable and I've heard no better reports about his Coburg form. All we ask for is to do his best at every contest yet he has that element of laziness about him.
Got to lift, does young Postie. It's the only thing keeping McGuane in the team ahead of him imo, because McGuane clearly gives a stuff but Postie is the man with more atheticism and talent imo. He'd want to hurry up if he wants to get in because by round 11 he'll also have the Goo to contend with who will be looking for his debut.
Ah very good I apoligise. :thumbsup, I do think he needs to lift at Coburg first too before he gets a shot in the RFC team.
I think the bottom line is the Key Performance Indicators that Hardwick has set. It seems that any player, regardless of who they are, has to fulfill these basics that Hardwick wants , or no game.
Has been emphasised once again in the Webberly interview.
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Agree with claw. Getting experience into them, testing them out is the way to do it. Keep Vickery in. Try Post. Centre half back is a problem area for the team
Post... experienced... ??? ???
Think you might have mis-read, WAT. elim to me is saying Post needs AFL experience to really test him out.
Personally I think he needs to show some improvement at Coburg first as his urgency and effort early in the year while playing for Richmond was deplorable and I've heard no better reports about his Coburg form. All we ask for is to do his best at every contest yet he has that element of laziness about him.
Got to lift, does young Postie. It's the only thing keeping McGuane in the team ahead of him imo, because McGuane clearly gives a stuff but Postie is the man with more atheticism and talent imo. He'd want to hurry up if he wants to get in because by round 11 he'll also have the Goo to contend with who will be looking for his debut.
Ah very good I apoligise. :thumbsup, I do think he needs to lift at Coburg first too before he gets a shot in the RFC team.
I think the bottom line is the Key Performance Indicators that Hardwick has set. It seems that any player, regardless of who they are, has to fulfill these basics that Hardwick wants , or no game.
Has been emphasised once again in the Webberly interview.
Very good, we need to stick to it, well Hardwick does.
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Agree with claw. Getting experience into them, testing them out is the way to do it. Keep Vickery in. Try Post. Centre half back is a problem area for the team
Post... experienced... ??? ???
1 do those kpis apply to those already in the side. if so why not drop an under performing senior for a kid where the learning curve at the least would be good for their development. senior or junior either way if both arent meeting kpis the benefit has to be the experience the kid will gain. we saw under both spud and wallace the folly of persevering with seniors who dont meet those kpis what the stuff kpis are we yanks, anyway we all saw the folly of persevering with seniors rather than giving A kid a go.
2 so few at the club meet what i call important kpis we would not be playing 22 each week.
3 with some kids not all its more about development than weather they deserve or have done enough at the lower level. with so few quality players at our club it rings more true than at other clubs.
Think you might have mis-read, WAT. elim to me is saying Post needs AFL experience to really test him out.
Personally I think he needs to show some improvement at Coburg first as his urgency and effort early in the year while playing for Richmond was deplorable and I've heard no better reports about his Coburg form. All we ask for is to do his best at every contest yet he has that element of laziness about him.
Got to lift, does young Postie. It's the only thing keeping McGuane in the team ahead of him imo, because McGuane clearly gives a stuff but Postie is the man with more atheticism and talent imo. He'd want to hurry up if he wants to get in because by round 11 he'll also have the Goo to contend with who will be looking for his debut.
Ah very good I apoligise. :thumbsup, I do think he needs to lift at Coburg first too before he gets a shot in the RFC team.
I think the bottom line is the Key Performance Indicators that Hardwick has set. It seems that any player, regardless of who they are, has to fulfill these basics that Hardwick wants , or no game.
Has been emphasised once again in the Webberly interview.
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I think the bottom line is the Key Performance Indicators that Hardwick has set. It seems that any player, regardless of who they are, has to fulfill these basics that Hardwick wants , or no game.
Has been emphasised once again in the Webberly interview.
Agree. It is a common line through most interviews with any number of players or coaches.
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We can't be serious about winning with that side. How can you leave Polo and Collins out while Farmer and Rance stay in?
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I wish Post all the best and hope he succeeds. I believe that Hardwick is the man to stamp out any laziness in Post